l'd like to see aim assist removed but that's just me.

NO

I love accurate hipfire, and aiming down sights should only be required for longer ranges. I don't want hipfire to be more "inaccuarct " as the OP said. Don't nerf hipfire, just give aiming down sights a larger accuracy boost.
Forcing people to have to use aiming down sight to be accurate only makes sense in high damage/low health games like CoD or BF. This game is more like Section 8, where mobility is more important than who saw who first; people die instantly games like CoD so more about who sees who first and shoots first (since first few shots usually kill), so mobility isn't really as important. High health and low damage means seeing someone first and shooting first doesn't guarantee victory, so maneuvering is needed, hence why being able to effectively fire without aiming down sight is a must.

I renounce, reject, and repudiate this request.

Well then we should never need to aim we are so much evolved tech wise we should use smart bullets and they go after the nearest target. In fact anything that requires skill should be discouraged. Everyone should have the same gear, same hp and same advantage. Also instead of being called dust they can call it the new communist socialist project.

But kidding aside here, it takes a certain amount of skill to aim and maintain that aim on the target and what bothers me is while I'm aiming despite I am getting in head shots with the ar some bozo is hipfiring me with a militia grade weapon and running faster than I can target. Why reward the guy with no desire to learn skill in aiming hell why have a aim even in the game if its supposed to be worse than hipfire.

However hipfire close range should be more effective I suppose but when its medium to long that's bs sorry

I still dissagree that hipfiring takes more skill, after all its got a better range and hit ratio than someone at medium distanced shooting you in the head several times. When I find myself in a match where I'm being out gunned due to hipfiring I switch to hipfire and seem to do allright. The game should at least give no dissadvantage to those who want to use a scope and fire, next time ill check though to see if sensitivity affects scoped view that might be my issue and need to turn up the sensitivity.

+1 OP.

Does anyone use the sights on the smg ? try it, it's a joke.

People have no skill so they want this game to take no skill.

This isn't a CoD. CoD has low health this does not. Strafe speeds are a must in high health shooters.

I have a hard time believing that any of you have ever played a high health shooters if you believe a high health game should have bad hip fire. So much fail.

I hate when people try to bring realism to justify their video game arguments. What is realistically possible for a soldier today doesn't necessarily apply to mercenaries living thousands of years into the future using equipment more advanced than anything we currently have available.
More importantly, there are genuine gameplay reasons why its important to have accurate hipfire, which I explained previously.

So your saying you just want to play an ADS shooter where everybody plays defensively and camps.

I'm sorry but if you want to go play a game where you walk around with your scope up your ass go play COD.

well realism aside the games ADS is mess up and should be more accaurct than hipfire, so i suggest quicker movement while ads and hipfire is to accuarct at medium and long range and should reflect the difficulty of holding a gun stable. movement would still count simple because of the hi health but ads wont be useless and hipfire wont be ungodly accuarct.


actually my scope will be up your when i kill your ass dont forget that. try and make valid points like kagehoshi and dont tell me to go play another game.

Well that's good to hear that they plan on tweaking it, personally I would never like to see a nerf if something is overpowered then buff everything else to make up the difference.

I would love to see reduced hip fire accuracy, and more incentive to aim down the sights while shooting. Likewise, the rate at which we can turn should be increased along with our walking/running speed while aiming (obviously for a dramatic increase in camera shake and lack of accuracy).

I get the impression that above all most of us came here for the potential of realism this game has. It doesn't make sense to pour our collective creative resources into refining and balancing a game who's basic battle mechanic does not realistically represent combat. I find it hard to believe an advanced civilisation stages wars in which its sophisticated ground units strafe around each other whilst firing all over the place.

I fully support more accurate ADS. ADS should be more accurate than hipfire.
I fully support more accurate crouch firing. Crouching should give better accuracy than standing.
I'm not sure if these things already give an accuracy boost, and if it need an increase, or if these things give no boost at all.
That being said...

Just don't touch my hipfire accuracy. I like the current accuracy.
If CCP did this, I would have no problem.

ADS is more accurate than hipfire. Because people can't snap to ADS like COD or BF they cry

technically crouch hipfire is more accuacrt than standing and running hipfire IS less accuarct but you have to strain your eyes looking to even notice it, which is why i suggest running hipfire be made less accaurct by 30% less and standing hipfire be 10 or 15 % less accuart and leave crouch the same so there is some noticable diffrence between them.


idea, make a skill for snapping and make a skill for moving faster while scope, however scope tracking speed should be increased to be able to keep up with assaults.

another idea do the same for hipfire if they lower its accuarcy and make skills for improving hipfire to almost what it is now.

I like that having it as a skill you have to invest in hipfire or scope.

Stupid thread with stupid ideas. Go play COD if you want to ADS more.