DUST Search - [graphics and gameplay are bad in the beta]

Abron Garr wrote:

Rorek IronBlood wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

How far off topic can this thread go?
We are placing bets.
1 million ISK says this thread is locked for off-topic by 1200 GMT tomorrow.

I'll admit I was off topic for a number of posts. I somewhat apologise for it, but really the conversation was much better anyway then what this thread was trying to do -- stir and rile and vex the people. Even if the original poster's intentions were genuine and meant for a better they nonetheless came off as someone just offering nothing more then insults towards the game, and the developers. I saw very little constructive criticism in way of conversation towards the topic at hand.

We all understand the game is far from complete, or perfect. The divide however is in how people seem to act. We're not fanboys, or blind to the problems. Some of us are just more patient, and understanding. Willing to wait and see as we fulfill our duty as [beta] testers as best we can. By being civil and calmly voicing our concerns and opinions in a rational manner. This thread was anything, but that. However it only got worse from there on both sides. Especially in terms of name calling, judging, and throwing accusations at one another.

Calling someone a fanboy is childish. The problem there is that I believe both sides want to better the game just going about in two very different ways. One side is about being as loud and obnoxious as possible while being unable to wait, and then you have us who come off (maybe) as if we are blind to the situation, but we're not. we do say what we want, and what we feel is wrong. We're just more calm about it. This however does account for everyone on either side. Some people are trying troll the forums as best to their ability, and do not care for the game's well being, and some are blind to the problem. Not because, they are a fanboy or anything, but more likely because, they may feel it's not so bad or not worth noting at the very least.

Anyway.... Sorr for babling somewhat, but I just figured I'd throw some input out there on the matter of communication problems. Though as I stated in the past it would help to see some proper documentation from GM, or the DEV's. Even just enough to lessen the tension on here.

Don't apologize to these assholes. This thread's OP was about as far from constructive as it could possibly be. It might as well be full of Fantasy Football picks from 3 seasons ago.

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Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.29 20:41:00 - [151] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Off topic, but was wondering if you happened to be a Stargate fan or a fan of another Sci-fi series? Loved the Alteran ships. Enjoyed the following: Bablyon 5 first few seasons, Battlestar Galactia - TNS but season 3 was boring, Star Trek Next Gen, Voyager, Enterprise. Robotech/Macross, Macross +, Macross 2, Macross Zero, Macross Frontier, Adromeda, Martian Successor Nedesco, Slowly getting into Starblazers but its really dated and hard to appreciate. Bookwise only appreciated Honor Harrigton Series lately. On that note Star Trek is a love/hate relationship : I applaud thier social interactions a bit, I boo thier military (or lack therfore of) mindedness. I personally like the gallente myrmdon and hyperion designs. However Megathron holds a special 'omfg I am going to raep you' look to it. I got hopes for dust, I just fear not everyone has the paitence to deal with ccp's pacing at times and thier odd knack for pushing back features to make room another feature made it in right. I do see ccp focusing on at least getting the following down by launch as its thier crieteria Hammering out gun play Hammering out controls Hammering out phsyics Getting Factional Wafare Functional Getting Social and Corproate Functional From there they have a bare bones launch game and from there they can keep adding stuff in. If i remember right caldari and amarr where the first two factions in eve online before the got the gallente and minmatar in from the beta era. By launch they had at least factional symetry something I dont see happening with dust 514 as they can get away with not everyone having a tank, dropsuit, or thier version of an assault rifle. I do remember isk was printed out of thin air as much back then in new eden either and the first battleship ever destroyed in new eden can only afford to fit cruiser weapons on it.
whoshotcha79 15	Posted - 2012.07.29 20:42:00 - [152] - Quote the gameplay is damn fun if you ask many of us andas for people who dont know any better I would nrt my last dollar I have way more fps experience than you and what part of the gameplay being not fun that's your opinion and as for weapons looking the same its not going to be that way in the final build so please by all means please leave you are not needed you dont understand the way this works its.testing gameplay right noww not if you like it or not good riddance to you and your kind sir ccp keep doing an amazing job the real gamers know this will be something truely special thank you
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2012.07.29 20:45:00 - [153] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: Off topic, but was wondering if you happened to be a Stargate fan or a fan of another Sci-fi series? Loved the Alteran ships. Enjoyed the following: Bablyon 5 first few seasons, Battlestar Galactia - TNS but season 3 was boring, Star Trek Next Gen, Voyager, Enterprise. Robotech/Macross, Macross +, Macross 2, Macross Zero, Macross Frontier, Adromeda, Martian Successor Nedesco, Slowly getting into Starblazers but its really dated and hard to appreciate. Bookwise only appreciated Honor Harrigton Series lately. On that note Star Trek is a love/hate relationship : I applaud thier social interactions a bit, I boo thier military (or lack therfore of) mindedness. I got hopes for dust, I just fear not everyone has the paitence to deal with ccp's pacing at times and thier odd knack for pushing back features to make room another feature made it in right. I do see ccp focusing on at least getting the following down by launch as its thier crieteria Hammering out gun play Hammering out controls Hammering out phsyics Getting Factional Wafare Functional Getting Social and Corproate Functional From there they have a bare bones launch game and from there they can keep adding stuff in. That's why DS9 was my favorite. Sisko wasn't afraid to get dirty to save the Federation.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.07.29 20:47:00 - [154] - Quote Battlestar: Gallactica was too much of a soap to me, but then again at times so was Star Trek at times. I enjoyed though a number of the series you listed. Not all of them due to either not having gotten to them, or another reason. Ha-ha. Still I agree with you on terms of CCP and Dust514. They should be able to pound out most issues before launch. Well here is to hope I suppose. Things do need patching, and tweeking. However we'll just have to see what CCP has done first come this upcoming thursday? Atleast I would hope soon for the next build. I have no honest official date. Could certainly hope for thursday though? Ha-ha.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.07.29 20:52:00 - [155] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: Off topic, but was wondering if you happened to be a Stargate fan or a fan of another Sci-fi series? Loved the Alteran ships. Enjoyed the following: Bablyon 5 first few seasons, Battlestar Galactia - TNS but season 3 was boring, Star Trek Next Gen, Voyager, Enterprise. Robotech/Macross, Macross +, Macross 2, Macross Zero, Macross Frontier, Adromeda, Martian Successor Nedesco, Slowly getting into Starblazers but its really dated and hard to appreciate. Bookwise only appreciated Honor Harrigton Series lately. On that note Star Trek is a love/hate relationship : I applaud thier social interactions a bit, I boo thier military (or lack therfore of) mindedness. I got hopes for dust, I just fear not everyone has the paitence to deal with ccp's pacing at times and thier odd knack for pushing back features to make room another feature made it in right. I do see ccp focusing on at least getting the following down by launch as its thier crieteria Hammering out gun play Hammering out controls Hammering out phsyics Getting Factional Wafare Functional Getting Social and Corproate Functional From there they have a bare bones launch game and from there they can keep adding stuff in. That's why DS9 was my favorite. Sisko wasn't afraid to get dirty to save the Federation. A lot of fans of Star Trek dislikes how gritty, and dark Star Trek: Deep Space Nine was, but I loved it! Netflix allowed me to finally watch all episodes start to finish, and it was even better. Also (The) Sisco, disliked Picard greatly. More so then anything for what he did as a borg (Lacutest of Borg). Still after going back and watching every series I enjoyed it the most next to Star Trek: The Original Series. The military aspect of Star Trek was also best in those two series. I loved the stories though, and as pointed out before the character dialogue and progression.
L1BERT1NE X Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 26	Posted - 2012.07.29 20:52:00 - [156] - Quote Chihiro Itto wrote: People who say they dislike a game then spend their time on that game's forums instead of doing something else with their lives make me larf. Pretty much this. You said you were done. I understand your points. Now, show your sincerity by going away. Dear OP, I know you're playing other games. I'm OK with that. I've moved on. You should move on, too. I don't need you getting on me two weeks from now at 2am just because your drunk and you want to shoot something. You're just showing your lack of respect for both of us. Stop logging on and leaving me messages. You're better than that. Stop interfering with my other relationships. Believe it or not some people do like to hang out with me and can do so without all the drama. I know I'm not perfect, but neither are you. The difference is, I'm trying to better myself, I want something more and I thought you did, too. Maybe when you're not so hurt you might stop running around telling everyone how horrible I am. And it's not about the size of your controller. Seriously, you're input was just fine. I hope you'll be happy someday. Love, Dusty EDIT Hey, I can post again! Good, I have all this pent up snarkiness...
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.29 20:59:00 - [157] - Quote its more like other people want to use the tv the ps3 is on. and that I ran out of isk to do collision testing wiht.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 811	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:00:00 - [158] - Quote Alkai Chromision wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: JaZZa01 wrote: I promise you there are hundreds of threads with legitimate criticism and ideas to fix the game, that are buried 50 pages back. All the developers will read is the first few pages, full of "DUST APPRECIATION", "GREAT JOB CCP, LOOKIN FORWARD TO IT" threads, which the silly players continue to reinforce, overlooking the big problems. There is a difference you are forgetting. The appreciative comments are the ones applauding progress. And there have been a lot of that. But criticism comes in many forms, and the threads that want DUST to be more like other, old games, are generally not to be taken seriously at all. Not that DUST can't learn from their successes and failures, it should, but the entire foundation of DUST is just too alien for it to be like CoD, BF, Halo or other existing games. DUST is the first FPS that have made me laugh, smile, frown and rage. Inside a minute. I was bored with CoD after an hour. An hour of really trying. Not all criticisms want a game to be like CoD or BF, or MoH, or any others. I wanted to like this game because it was different. I'm great at CoD, good at BF3, was great a Homefront..... I wanted this game because it was different and I wanted it to be. We don't need more of the same. There will be more CoD and more BF no question. My qualms with the game are all gameplay related. Not graphics, not because there's no throwing knives or killstreaks, or anything else. There are valid points for and against the game, for me the pros don't outweigh the cons. And these forums are for those who have tested this product to voice their opinions. Not to voice there opinions on a finished product but to voice their opinions on a beta. So then why are people upset because other people have an opinion on a beta? Well, the problem is that this beta still has the better part of a year's worth of development and improvements ahead of it, but people like the OP treat it likes it's a finished product. Just look at the basic gameplay improvements that we got from the last build to the current build, and then realize the developers are currently 2 or 3 builds out ahead of the one we are currently playing. We don't have proper spawn mechanics yet, probably less than half the gear, we've got 3 out of 7,000 maps, no corporations, no market, no grouping, no PvE, no player contracts, low res unfinished graphics and textures, unfinished optimization for draw distance, etc, etc. Anyone who thinks they can make judgements calls yet on whether or not this game will be "good" upon release is CLEARLY talking out of their ass. That doesn't mean there aren't problems, there are TONS of problems, but that's the point of this beta. It's just "this game sucks, it's not as good as games A, B, or C that are all finished products" is a clear indicator that someone doesn't have a proper grasp on what they are talking about. It's like watching The Joy Of Painting for the first 10 minutes and saying "That doesn't look anything like a lake surrounded by trees with mountains in the background, Bob Ross sucks and that painting looks like gibberish and will never look like anything other than blobs of paint" and then changing the channel. If you've got problems with how the beta plays then at least post in the feedback section. When someone comes into General Discussions and fills their thread with ignorant statements and incorrect assumptions, they shouldn't expect anyone to take the legitimate criticisms they sprinkle in seriously. Also, I'm no fanboy. I've never played EVE, and frankly, I don't give a **** if Dust succeeds or fails. It's a free game, so if it sucks I simply won't play it, but at this point in the beta it's impossible to say how the final release will look.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:30:00 - [159] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Abron Garr wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: Off topic, but was wondering if you happened to be a Stargate fan or a fan of another Sci-fi series? Loved the Alteran ships. Enjoyed the following: Bablyon 5 first few seasons, Battlestar Galactia - TNS but season 3 was boring, Star Trek Next Gen, Voyager, Enterprise. Robotech/Macross, Macross +, Macross 2, Macross Zero, Macross Frontier, Adromeda, Martian Successor Nedesco, Slowly getting into Starblazers but its really dated and hard to appreciate. Bookwise only appreciated Honor Harrigton Series lately. On that note Star Trek is a love/hate relationship : I applaud thier social interactions a bit, I boo thier military (or lack therfore of) mindedness. I got hopes for dust, I just fear not everyone has the paitence to deal with ccp's pacing at times and thier odd knack for pushing back features to make room another feature made it in right. I do see ccp focusing on at least getting the following down by launch as its thier crieteria Hammering out gun play Hammering out controls Hammering out phsyics Getting Factional Wafare Functional Getting Social and Corproate Functional From there they have a bare bones launch game and from there they can keep adding stuff in. That's why DS9 was my favorite. Sisko wasn't afraid to get dirty to save the Federation. A lot of fans of Star Trek dislikes how gritty, and dark Star Trek: Deep Space Nine was, but I loved it! Netflix allowed me to finally watch all episodes start to finish, and it was even better. Also (The) Sisco, disliked Picard greatly. More so then anything for what he did as a borg (Lacutest of Borg). Still after going back and watching every series I enjoyed it the most next to Star Trek: The Original Series. The military aspect of Star Trek was also best in those two series. I loved the stories though, and as pointed out before the character dialogue and progression. The writing was exquisite. Episodes like In the Pale Moonlight, Paradise Lost, Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges (all the Section 31 episodes were badass), and Homefront are probably my top favorites. The writers were very prescient too. I remember re-watching Homefront/Paradise Lost a few years after 9/11 and just thinking..."Wow".
DON RODIE II Deep Space Republic 168	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:42:00 - [160] - Quote I like this game. It just feels super deep, which I perfer. I played bf3 beta and a lot of people said the game sucked. Sure battlefield 3 beta did sucked. But now its has to be the best first person shooter out right now. Battlefield 3 beta was horrible. It was worser then this beta. I will never forget swimming under the map and they would not let you aim your gun properly, yet along walk right. A lot people missing out on BF3 for that cod piece of shyt. I think a lot of people will miss out on this game if they can't accept that is in it's beta and not the final verison.

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:47:00 - [161] - Quote TBH I think the eve online dust fans are much harsher on dust 514 than cod hateboys are.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:47:00 - [162] - Quote How far off topic can this thread go? We are placing bets. 1 million ISK says this thread is locked for off-topic by 1200 GMT tomorrow.
Mr Funless Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 191	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:50:00 - [163] - Quote The EVE stuff is great. I love the customization to it. Making the perfect setup, having limited funds, potential to hookup with EVE, etc. The actual game play (you know, shooting stuff) should be much better for a game 3 years into development. It's going to be at least a year after release till it's in a really playable state.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:51:00 - [164] - Quote Who like Sonic the Hedghog?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:52:00 - [165] - Quote Mr Funless wrote: The EVE stuff is great. I love the customization to it. Making the perfect setup, having limited funds, potential to hookup with EVE, etc. The actual game play (you know, shooting stuff) should be much better for a game 3 years into development. It's going to be at least a year after release till it's in a really playable state. At least dust 514 better caters to the instant action folks like myself. As ccp put it in a way, the ability to experince new eden from a not so boring angle.
thereal herbzula Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 62	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:57:00 - [166] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: How far off topic can this thread go? We are placing bets. 1 million ISK says this thread is locked for off-topic by 1200 GMT tomorrow. I dont understand y this thread is still up. People crying about a unfinished product...... How lame lol Its like getting mad at McDonalds for not making your Big Mac the way you want it before you even order. GTFO if you dont like it, save everyone the headace, your just wasting forum space that can be used for something constructive. Oh, ill take that bet Mobius!
thereal herbzula Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 62	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:58:00 - [167] - Quote Weird double post somehow?
thereal herbzula Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 62	Posted - 2012.07.29 22:01:00 - [168] - Quote Mr Funless wrote: The EVE stuff is great. I love the customization to it. Making the perfect setup, having limited funds, potential to hookup with EVE, etc. The actual game play (you know, shooting stuff) should be much better for a game 3 years into development. It's going to be at least a year after release till it's in a really playable state. We are playing it right now, so you are dumb. lol
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.07.29 22:02:00 - [169] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: How far off topic can this thread go? We are placing bets. 1 million ISK says this thread is locked for off-topic by 1200 GMT tomorrow. I'll admit I was off topic for a number of posts. I somewhat apologise for it, but really the conversation was much better anyway then what this thread was trying to do -- stir and rile and vex the people. Even if the original poster's intentions were genuine and meant for a better they nonetheless came off as someone just offering nothing more then insults towards the game, and the developers. I saw very little constructive criticism in way of conversation towards the topic at hand. We all understand the game is far from complete, or perfect. The divide however is in how people seem to act. We're not fanboys, or blind to the problems. Some of us are just more patient, and understanding. Willing to wait and see as we fulfill our duty as [beta] testers as best we can. By being civil and calmly voicing our concerns and opinions in a rational manner. This thread was anything, but that. However it only got worse from there on both sides. Especially in terms of name calling, judging, and throwing accusations at one another. Calling someone a fanboy is childish. The problem there is that I believe both sides want to better the game just going about in two very different ways. One side is about being as loud and obnoxious as possible while being unable to wait, and then you have us who come off (maybe) as if we are blind to the situation, but we're not. we do say what we want, and what we feel is wrong. We're just more calm about it. This however does account for everyone on either side. Some people are trying troll the forums as best to their ability, and do not care for the game's well being, and some are blind to the problem. Not because, they are a fanboy or anything, but more likely because, they may feel it's not so bad or not worth noting at the very least. Anyway.... Sorr for babling somewhat, but I just figured I'd throw some input out there on the matter of communication problems. Though as I stated in the past it would help to see some proper documentation from GM, or the DEV's. Even just enough to lessen the tension on here.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.07.29 22:06:00 - [170] - Quote To the OP: Your post is useless. 1_ You don't post feedback here, you post it there: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=730 2_ Be specific and throrough about what aspects of gameplay is flawed, how its flawed, and how it could be improved. 3_ As long as graphics are tolerable, it doesn't matter.

Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2012.07.29 22:46:00 - [171] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: How far off topic can this thread go? We are placing bets. 1 million ISK says this thread is locked for off-topic by 1200 GMT tomorrow. I'll admit I was off topic for a number of posts. I somewhat apologise for it, but really the conversation was much better anyway then what this thread was trying to do -- stir and rile and vex the people. Even if the original poster's intentions were genuine and meant for a better they nonetheless came off as someone just offering nothing more then insults towards the game, and the developers. I saw very little constructive criticism in way of conversation towards the topic at hand. We all understand the game is far from complete, or perfect. The divide however is in how people seem to act. We're not fanboys, or blind to the problems. Some of us are just more patient, and understanding. Willing to wait and see as we fulfill our duty as [beta] testers as best we can. By being civil and calmly voicing our concerns and opinions in a rational manner. This thread was anything, but that. However it only got worse from there on both sides. Especially in terms of name calling, judging, and throwing accusations at one another. Calling someone a fanboy is childish. The problem there is that I believe both sides want to better the game just going about in two very different ways. One side is about being as loud and obnoxious as possible while being unable to wait, and then you have us who come off (maybe) as if we are blind to the situation, but we're not. we do say what we want, and what we feel is wrong. We're just more calm about it. This however does account for everyone on either side. Some people are trying troll the forums as best to their ability, and do not care for the game's well being, and some are blind to the problem. Not because, they are a fanboy or anything, but more likely because, they may feel it's not so bad or not worth noting at the very least. Anyway.... Sorr for babling somewhat, but I just figured I'd throw some input out there on the matter of communication problems. Though as I stated in the past it would help to see some proper documentation from GM, or the DEV's. Even just enough to lessen the tension on here. Don't apologize to these assholes. This thread's OP was about as far from constructive as it could possibly be. It might as well be full of Fantasy Football picks from 3 seasons ago.
Kaeralli Sturmovos KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2012.07.29 22:48:00 - [172] - Quote another tester rushing opinions in a BETA
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.07.29 22:51:00 - [173] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: How far off topic can this thread go? We are placing bets. 1 million ISK says this thread is locked for off-topic by 1200 GMT tomorrow. I'll admit I was off topic for a number of posts. I somewhat apologise for it, but really the conversation was much better anyway then what this thread was trying to do -- stir and rile and vex the people. Even if the original poster's intentions were genuine and meant for a better they nonetheless came off as someone just offering nothing more then insults towards the game, and the developers. I saw very little constructive criticism in way of conversation towards the topic at hand. We all understand the game is far from complete, or perfect. The divide however is in how people seem to act. We're not fanboys, or blind to the problems. Some of us are just more patient, and understanding. Willing to wait and see as we fulfill our duty as [beta] testers as best we can. By being civil and calmly voicing our concerns and opinions in a rational manner. This thread was anything, but that. However it only got worse from there on both sides. Especially in terms of name calling, judging, and throwing accusations at one another. Calling someone a fanboy is childish. The problem there is that I believe both sides want to better the game just going about in two very different ways. One side is about being as loud and obnoxious as possible while being unable to wait, and then you have us who come off (maybe) as if we are blind to the situation, but we're not. we do say what we want, and what we feel is wrong. We're just more calm about it. This however does account for everyone on either side. Some people are trying troll the forums as best to their ability, and do not care for the game's well being, and some are blind to the problem. Not because, they are a fanboy or anything, but more likely because, they may feel it's not so bad or not worth noting at the very least. Anyway.... Sorr for babling somewhat, but I just figured I'd throw some input out there on the matter of communication problems. Though as I stated in the past it would help to see some proper documentation from GM, or the DEV's. Even just enough to lessen the tension on here. Don't apologize to these assholes. This thread's OP was about as far from constructive as it could possibly be. It might as well be full of Fantasy Football picks from 3 seasons ago. I really was not so much apologising other then being slightly off topic when I started talking about Sci-fi, and whatnot. Just trying to offer an opinon on why the community is divided as such. I cannot and do not speak for all though as I pointed out. There will always be variables outside the norm, or known that are harder to pin down. I did mention the original posting being a bit harsh though, and offering very little constructiveness to the game. It's okay though. I mean people have an opinion. I know at times I fly off the handle myself, make stupid comments, or attack back when prevoked. I'm human just as much as everyone else here. I know people that include myself we just get to a point where you cannot take the same sort of posting or thread anymore. They get tired of being reminded it's a [beta], and some of us get tired of the negativity. It happens. I'm guilty of going off a couple of times on such matters.
Fatal HeD Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.07.29 23:24:00 - [174] - Quote I wish I could quote every idiot here but the OP takes the cake so to him and all like him: - Please leave the game and come back later if you really believe that what you are playing is unacceptable (keeping in mind that you likely paid nothing to participate in a closed BETA) - If you do not believe that CCP can and will majorly change things before the release of this game ask any EVE player who has participated in the test server before a major expansion release. The planetary mining system was basically scrapped and reworked months before its release and its not abnormal for them to re-work major parts of their games to get it right. I am not saying this will happen or even that it needs a major overhaul but it is more than possible. - The maps and graphics you are seeing now most likely mean basically nothing please stop complaining about them. This is to include most talks of spawn camping at least until they implement installations. And as far as graphics goes if you have ever seen that shiny trailer with the orbital strike from the planet...the programming for that actually exists i.e. that is actual gameplay complete with real in-game graphics and effects. By and large CCP's trailers tend to be of actual gameplay the only difference being the camera angles they are able to capture the gameplay from so if you want a sample of what finalized graphics will look like please re-watch a DUST trailer with that in mind. - Dust is far from perfect (in its current form its not even that good tbh) and CCP is very new at this that being said all feedback and criticism is good even if it really just amounts to non-sense and/or whining. But if would def be nice if posters could at least make it up to that level. If you feel the need to get on your computer, log on to these forums, and spend 10-30 mins typing just to complain about how mad you are about a GAME that hasn't even been completed yet regardless of how 'close' you may feel it is to completion. You should probably turn off your playstation, shut down your computer and smack yourself in the face as hard as you can and reflect on some life decisions.
Raynor Ragna 266	Posted - 2012.07.29 23:27:00 - [175] - Quote It amazes me that people are trolling these forums. This is a Beta, we are here to help CCP. If you aren't helping, you guys should leave.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2012.07.29 23:31:00 - [176] - Quote Raynor Ragna wrote: It amazes me that people are trolling these forums. This is a Beta, we are here to help CCP. If you aren't helping, you guys should leave. I agree.
Templar Two Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 459	Posted - 2012.07.30 08:36:00 - [177] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Ye id rarther take the word of ccp rarther than a mag tbh So an interview with CCP on a VG site is not a reliable source!

CCP Frame Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 351	Posted - 2012.07.30 08:45:00 - [178] - Quote For all your constructive criticism, feedback and suggestions head over to feedback forums. And please read the forum rules. Thank you.



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