im so lost whats so bad about gameplay ik everything i thought was wrong they promised to fix in next build i love the game idk why all of u complain about stuff and dont mention what u think is wrong and all this 180 talk confuses me cause the games not even close to bad enough to ever consider that and i own MW3 and BF3 and played plenty more shooters on the ps3 my trophy rank is lvl 20 and most come from shooters so ive had plenty of experience with judging gameplay and such

can u explain deeper more specific examples


ik a few examples of things i dont like r the knives feel awful but im used to either them moving slow but one hit killing or fast so u can spam them but i really dont want a one hit kill knife unless its a melee weapon that specifically is used to destroy people like a giant hammer or sword or axe etc.

and crouching seems slow and un-crouching

Add module activation on vehicles to that list


none the less I am going to wait until august patch before I slap down another 101 things that annoy me in dust 514.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=26144&find=unread here is my current list of complaints, I only expect a quater of these to be fixed mostly the more serious ones that are counter fun.

Enjoyed the following: Bablyon 5 first few seasons, Battlestar Galactia - TNS but season 3 was boring, Star Trek Next Gen, Voyager, Enterprise. Robotech/Macross, Macross +, Macross 2, Macross Zero, Macross Frontier, Adromeda, Martian Successor Nedesco, Slowly getting into Starblazers but its really dated and hard to appreciate. Bookwise only appreciated Honor Harrigton Series lately.

On that note Star Trek is a love/hate relationship : I applaud thier social interactions a bit, I boo thier military (or lack therfore of) mindedness.

I got hopes for dust, I just fear not everyone has the paitence to deal with ccp's pacing at times and thier odd knack for pushing back features to make room another feature made it in right.

I do see ccp focusing on at least getting the following down by launch as its thier crieteria

Hammering out gun play
Hammering out controls
Hammering out phsyics
Getting Factional Wafare Functional
Getting Social and Corproate Functional

From there they have a bare bones launch game and from there they can keep adding stuff in.

A lot of fans of Star Trek dislikes how gritty, and dark Star Trek: Deep Space Nine was, but I loved it! Netflix allowed me to finally watch all episodes start to finish, and it was even better. Also (The) Sisco, disliked Picard greatly. More so then anything for what he did as a borg (Lacutest of Borg). Still after going back and watching every series I enjoyed it the most next to Star Trek: The Original Series. The military aspect of Star Trek was also best in those two series. I loved the stories though, and as pointed out before the character dialogue and progression.

I'll admit I was off topic for a number of posts. I somewhat apologise for it, but really the conversation was much better anyway then what this thread was trying to do -- stir and rile and vex the people. Even if the original poster's intentions were genuine and meant for a better they nonetheless came off as someone just offering nothing more then insults towards the game, and the developers. I saw very little constructive criticism in way of conversation towards the topic at hand.

We all understand the game is far from complete, or perfect. The divide however is in how people seem to act. We're not fanboys, or blind to the problems. Some of us are just more patient, and understanding. Willing to wait and see as we fulfill our duty as [beta] testers as best we can. By being civil and calmly voicing our concerns and opinions in a rational manner. This thread was anything, but that. However it only got worse from there on both sides. Especially in terms of name calling, judging, and throwing accusations at one another.

Calling someone a fanboy is childish. The problem there is that I believe both sides want to better the game just going about in two very different ways. One side is about being as loud and obnoxious as possible while being unable to wait, and then you have us who come off (maybe) as if we are blind to the situation, but we're not. we do say what we want, and what we feel is wrong. We're just more calm about it. This however does account for everyone on either side. Some people are trying troll the forums as best to their ability, and do not care for the game's well being, and some are blind to the problem. Not because, they are a fanboy or anything, but more likely because, they may feel it's not so bad or not worth noting at the very least.

Anyway.... Sorr for babling somewhat, but I just figured I'd throw some input out there on the matter of communication problems. Though as I stated in the past it would help to see some proper documentation from GM, or the DEV's. Even just enough to lessen the tension on here.

It amazes me that people are trolling these forums. This is a Beta, we are here to help CCP. If you aren't helping, you guys should leave.