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Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:52:00 -
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Agree with op! This is pretty terrible even for a work in progress beta. No amount of polish can fix this disaster by release. Sorry to upset u fanboys but this is just awful...beta or not. |
KingBlade82
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:53:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:Abron Garr wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:im so lost whats so bad about gameplay ik everything i thought was wrong they promised to fix in next build i love the game idk why all of u complain about stuff and dont mention what u think is wrong and all this 180 talk confuses me cause the games not even close to bad enough to ever consider that and i own MW3 and BF3 and played plenty more shooters on the ps3 my trophy rank is lvl 20 and most come from shooters so ive had plenty of experience with judging gameplay and such Hit detection still needs work. The game still feels "clunky" and some actions feel sluggish or non-responsive. can u explain deeper more specific examples ik a few examples of things i dont like r the knives feel awful but im used to either them moving slow but one hit killing or fast so u can spam them but i really dont want a one hit kill knife unless its a melee weapon that specifically is used to destroy people like a giant hammer or sword or axe etc. and crouching seems slow and un-crouching Sometimes you'll unload a clip into someone and see their shields flashing but they take little or no damage. The reload mechanics need work. Knifing is clunky. Crouch and sprint mechanics need looking into. Weapon switching, tool switching is problematic. Some times you have to press L1 multiple times to get REs to go off. Grenades just not firing. The grenade throw arc is WAY TOO HIGH. Grenade physics are weird. Draw distance is pitiful. Running a tank into a light post damages the tank . Terrain is unrefined and certain areas around hills will cause the player to get stuck. Too easy to get stuck on corners and stairs. Spawn locations are bugged. Numerous quality of life improvements needed. These are just a few issues off the top of my head. Voice comms are bugged. Numerous issues with voice comms tbh.
some of these r gonna be fixed from what i heard in the next build and yeah grenade is odd even though i get kills with it and weapon switching also needs adjusted it also seems slow to go to secondary but im used to CoD saying switch to ur pistol its faster than reloading :P and if u r a logi u have to go through ur stupid nanohives and stuff to get to ur gun lol |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:53:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Agree with op! This is pretty terrible even for a work in progress beta. No amount of polish can fix this disaster by release. Sorry to upset u fanboys but this is just awful...beta or not.
CCP doesnt use polish, they use jackhammers. You should have seen the amount of rage that happened when they redid the inventory system in eve and basically said, sorry we cant go back now. Also the amount of rage of people who where dropped from support for a video card that was about 12 years old. I felt sorry for the 1% of players with DX8 Cards with shadermodel 1. Then a year later Shader model 2 folks where dropped like a rock.
I can only imagine the amount of rage when CCP annouces they're going to stop support fo the PS3 and move onto the PS4 |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:54:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Add module activation on vehicles to that list
none the less I am going to wait until august patch before I slap down another 101 things that annoy me in dust 514. There really needs to be a thread of known issues and complaints that is updated often and stickied at the top of both GPD and Bug/TS sub forums. No offense to the CR staff here at CCP, but trying to wade through all the posts of the last few days just to find your issue is annoying, even with the search button. It would also probably alleviate some of the nerd rage if people knew the CCP devs were aware of even the most trivial problems.
Agreed. CCP does need to afford the time to upload some form of documentation. Many of us have stated as such before. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:57:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Add module activation on vehicles to that list
none the less I am going to wait until august patch before I slap down another 101 things that annoy me in dust 514. There really needs to be a thread of known issues and complaints that is updated often and stickied at the top of both GPD and Bug/TS sub forums. No offense to the CR staff here at CCP, but trying to wade through all the posts of the last few days just to find your issue is annoying, even with the search button. It would also probably alleviate some of the nerd rage if people knew the CCP devs were aware of even the most trivial problems. Agreed. CCP does need to afford the time to upload some form of documentation. Many of us have stated as such before.
I think ccp is a bit more busy getting the game up and going, I mean seriously if you look at 'dev' posts between eve and dust 514, you see more GMs posting here answering questions about game development than the devs are posting. I wonder how they're indrontinating ex-Dice people at CCP to listen to players and possibly talk to them?
BTW Eve online getting software updated on august 8th it wouldnt surprise me if dust 514 does it the same day while everyone is upped up on energy drinks in prepration for patchday gone wrong. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:00:00 -
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They have months left to work on the game. It's supposed to release "sometime 2012". You're high if you think the state of the game now is a clear indication of how it'll be at release. |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:00:00 -
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Oh, and...graphics has nothing to do with it. U just cant fix bad gameplay. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:01:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Oh, and...graphics has nothing to do with it. U just cant fix bad gameplay.
Actually you can, it involves tearing apart the engine and peicing it back together, or just scrapping it and throwing a newer one in. CCP has gone that far before to the dismay of people with 15 year old lap tops that were once able to run eve.
Hell wouldnt surpsie me if one day they decide to drop unreal engine 3 and go with 4. |
JAG ONE
97
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:01:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Agree with op! This is pretty terrible even for a work in progress beta. No amount of polish can fix this disaster by release. Sorry to upset u fanboys but this is just awful...beta or not.
At the current pace of development with a new build every 6 weeks or so, we will probably see 4 more builds before this game gets launched. that's a lot of development effort to fix / polish things off. you guys just need to calm the F down. go play something else if the glitches/bugs annoy you that much. come back for the next build.
but hating on the game and developers and saying that this game will be failure is just LOL stupid..
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Gauder Berwyck
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
217
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:02:00 -
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Haters need to realise that this is a beta, and they have time to fix things.
Fanboys need to realise there is a HELLUVA lot to fix... |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:03:00 -
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Gauder Berwyck wrote:Haters need to realise that this is a beta, and they have time to fix things.
Fanboys need to realise there is a HELLUVA lot to fix...
Oh I know there is alot of fix I have a nice list called 101 bullets in feedback, I havent updated it because, welll... I havent found any new nunances.
Wait scratch that i got a new one, brb going to bump it and link it. |
Knight Of Valor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:05:00 -
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Ok, let's say this is a beta. That means they will never fix the game. It will take them 500 years to release the game at the rate they are doing. LOL |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:06:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:They have months left to work on the game. It's supposed to release "sometime 2012". You're high if you think the state of the game now is a clear indication of how it'll be at release. People always say this in betas but in my experience with betas (and its extensive), they are actually a pretty good indicator of the final product. The release is usually more polished and refined but basic gameplay is the same. Yet there are always people in beta forums spouting how the final will be so much better...they fool themselves. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:07:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=26144&find=unread here is my current list of complaints, I only expect a quater of these to be fixed mostly the more serious ones that are counter fun. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:07:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:They have months left to work on the game. It's supposed to release "sometime 2012". You're high if you think the state of the game now is a clear indication of how it'll be at release. People always say this in betas but in my experience with betas (and its extensive), they are actually a pretty good indicator of the final product. The release is usually more polished and refined but basic gameplay is the same. Yet there are always people in beta forums spouting how the final will be so much better...they fool themselves.
Did you beta eve online? |
Garma QUDA
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:12:00 -
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******* new people. Please, go away so we can keep progressing with the beta. |
XxDreadknotxX
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:13:00 -
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although sum cod and battlefield titles have shown great graphics and playability at one point they were all in the devolpmental stage...it's the testing that made the game better for it's playability and polishing of it's graphics...it's like cooking...u have to have a nice base to build on...making wild assumtions that the game sucks during it's closed testing phase is absolutly absurd... instead of slammin a game in development how about offering idea's to improve the game it's self.. |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:14:00 -
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JAG ONE wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Agree with op! This is pretty terrible even for a work in progress beta. No amount of polish can fix this disaster by release. Sorry to upset u fanboys but this is just awful...beta or not. At the current pace of development with a new build every 6 weeks or so, we will probably see 4 more builds before this game gets launched. that's a lot of development effort to fix / polish things off. you guys just need to calm the F down. go play something else if the glitches/bugs annoy you that much. come back for the next build. but hating on the game and developers and saying that this game will be failure is just LOL stupid.. Its not glitches and bugs thats the problem. Those things are expected in beta. Its not the fact that it needs more polish its the core gameplay thats boring and just plain terrible...they c+ánt fix that without a complete rebuild.
Those of u waiting for some big spectacular changes by release are holding onto false hope. This is the core game and only minor improvements will be made by release. Polish and fixed bugs dont improve the core gameplay. The game is boring and thats not going to change...no matter how much we wish for it. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:15:00 -
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JaZZa01 wrote:Lmao, look at all these fanboys. When somebody says something bad, it's like a child responding with their hands over their ears, "NO NO, BETA, LA LA LA, DUST IS PERFECT."
LOL |
Garma QUDA
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:15:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:JAG ONE wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Agree with op! This is pretty terrible even for a work in progress beta. No amount of polish can fix this disaster by release. Sorry to upset u fanboys but this is just awful...beta or not. At the current pace of development with a new build every 6 weeks or so, we will probably see 4 more builds before this game gets launched. that's a lot of development effort to fix / polish things off. you guys just need to calm the F down. go play something else if the glitches/bugs annoy you that much. come back for the next build. but hating on the game and developers and saying that this game will be failure is just LOL stupid.. Its not glitches and bugs thats the problem. Those things are expected in beta. Its not the fact that it needs more polish its the core gameplay thats boring and just plain terrible...they c+ánt fix that without a complete rebuild. Those of u waiting for some big spectacular changes by release are holding onto false hope. This is the core game and only minor improvements will be made by release. Polish and fixed bugs dont improve the core gameplay. The game is boring and thats not going to change...no matter how much we wish for it.
So when are you going away again? |
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Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:They have months left to work on the game. It's supposed to release "sometime 2012". You're high if you think the state of the game now is a clear indication of how it'll be at release. People always say this in betas but in my experience with betas (and its extensive), they are actually a pretty good indicator of the final product. The release is usually more polished and refined but basic gameplay is the same. Yet there are always people in beta forums spouting how the final will be so much better...they fool themselves. Did you beta eve online? This isnt EVE online...its a PS3 fps. And its terrible! Maybe u EvE players are happy with boring...I prefer action and excitement in my shooters. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
256
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=26144&find=unread here is my current list of complaints, I only expect a quater of these to be fixed mostly the more serious ones that are counter fun.
Nice, hopefully we can get it stickied. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:20:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Add module activation on vehicles to that list
none the less I am going to wait until august patch before I slap down another 101 things that annoy me in dust 514. There really needs to be a thread of known issues and complaints that is updated often and stickied at the top of both GPD and Bug/TS sub forums. No offense to the CR staff here at CCP, but trying to wade through all the posts of the last few days just to find your issue is annoying, even with the search button. It would also probably alleviate some of the nerd rage if people knew the CCP devs were aware of even the most trivial problems. Agreed. CCP does need to afford the time to upload some form of documentation. Many of us have stated as such before. I think ccp is a bit more busy getting the game up and going, I mean seriously if you look at 'dev' posts between eve and dust 514, you see more GMs posting here answering questions about game development than the devs are posting. I wonder how they're indrontinating ex-Dice people at CCP to listen to players and possibly talk to them? BTW Eve online getting software updated on august 8th it wouldnt surprise me if dust 514 does it the same day while everyone is upped up on energy drinks in prepration for patchday gone wrong.
Good eye on the EVE Online side. That would be neat to see if they happen to release both updates around or on the same date. However in terms of GM to DEV -- Usually they are both under the same roof. Just different departments. What needs to happen in this case is internal communication so that GM (General Managment) can cordinate, talk, and respond to us. Communication is always an essential and intregal part, or form. We the players could use some communication. It would at the very least help relieve some stress within the community. |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:21:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:JaZZa01 wrote:Lmao, look at all these fanboys. When somebody says something bad, it's like a child responding with their hands over their ears, "NO NO, BETA, LA LA LA, DUST IS PERFECT."
LOL LOL...so true! |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:27:00 -
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Face it, people, that if the game fails on ps3 its headed to PC where it won't fail.....CCP must have an out of exclusive clause with Sony which can be exercised after a period of time if numbers and revenue miss the projected targets.....
The game will go on, it may be that the game is too deep, mature and complex for console gamers....
The game play in this build can get boring, but I must say I have enjoyed my time on the Asian server so far. It is funny how when hit detection works and lag reduces, that the game becomes more playable despite the obvious issues on the current skirmish map.
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Garma QUDA
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:29:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:Face it, people, that if the game fails on ps3 its headed to PC where it won't fail.....CCP must have an out of exclusive clause with Sony which can be exercised after a period of time if numbers and revenue miss the projected targets.....
The game will go on, it may be that the game is too deep, mature and complex for console gamers....
The game play in this build can get boring, but I must say I have enjoyed my time on the Asian server so far. It is funny how when hit detection works and lag reduces, that the game becomes more playable despite the obvious issues on the current skirmish map.
Ok |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:30:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:They have months left to work on the game. It's supposed to release "sometime 2012". You're high if you think the state of the game now is a clear indication of how it'll be at release. People always say this in betas but in my experience with betas (and its extensive), they are actually a pretty good indicator of the final product. The release is usually more polished and refined but basic gameplay is the same. Yet there are always people in beta forums spouting how the final will be so much better...they fool themselves. Did you beta eve online? This isnt EVE online...its a PS3 fps. And its terrible! Maybe u EvE players are happy with boring...I prefer action and excitement in my shooters.
Yet eve online's beta wasnt like any other pc's betas either for an mmo. There was only 2 factions and like 90 star sytems. Hell there was a ship in it that like never made it in that I acutally liked (it looked like a sunfish) Heck Null sec didnt exit, tutorials didnt exist (well after launch) lots and lots of things in eve didnt exist back then, like battleships.
The thing is the beta from eve looks a hell lot like dust 514s in terms of progress, how things work, how updates are made, how feedback is treated and how the much of the game shaped by the testers. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:33:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote: Good eye on the EVE Online side. That would be neat to see if they happen to release both updates around or on the same date. However in terms of GM to DEV -- Usually they are both under the same roof. Just different departments. What needs to happen in this case is internal communication so that GM (General Managment) can cordinate, talk, and respond to us. Communication is always an essential and intregal part, or form. We the players could use some communication. It would at the very least help relieve some stress within the community.
Honestly its not the first time eve online had longer than usual downtime because it was dust 514's fault. Its been happening a bit more lately. Current eve downtime averages about 15 minutes or less though daily so who knows.
As for the GMs I expect they're more of a support role still in this game just right now there isnt much of a community to watch over so they're being barrowed to help develop the game probably via tools feedback and are more involved than usual. I mean look at CCP Cmnd Wang even though hes community guy for dust 514 hes way over his head on being busy elsewhere. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:They have months left to work on the game. It's supposed to release "sometime 2012". You're high if you think the state of the game now is a clear indication of how it'll be at release. People always say this in betas but in my experience with betas (and its extensive), they are actually a pretty good indicator of the final product. The release is usually more polished and refined but basic gameplay is the same. Yet there are always people in beta forums spouting how the final will be so much better...they fool themselves. Did you beta eve online? This isnt EVE online...its a PS3 fps. And its terrible! Maybe u EvE players are happy with boring...I prefer action and excitement in my shooters. Yet eve online's beta wasnt like any other pc's betas either for an mmo. There was only 2 factions and like 90 star sytems. Hell there was a ship in it that like never made it in that I acutally liked (it looked like a sunfish) Heck Null sec didnt exit, tutorials didnt exist (well after launch) lots and lots of things in eve didnt exist back then, like battleships. The thing is the beta from eve looks a hell lot like dust 514s in terms of progress, how things work, how updates are made, how feedback is treated and how the much of the game shaped by the testers.
Off topic, but was wondering if you happened to be a Stargate fan or a fan of another Sci-fi series? Loved the Alteran ships.
Edit:
Iron Wolf Saber, Sadly as I have reported I have never been able to afford the luxury funds, to play EVE Online. Though I know someone who does personally, and I have always been a fan of Gallente (I love the Talos Fast Attack Ship.) Still thank you, for the info. |
JAG ONE
97
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Posted - 2012.07.29 20:35:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:JAG ONE wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Agree with op! This is pretty terrible even for a work in progress beta. No amount of polish can fix this disaster by release. Sorry to upset u fanboys but this is just awful...beta or not. At the current pace of development with a new build every 6 weeks or so, we will probably see 4 more builds before this game gets launched. that's a lot of development effort to fix / polish things off. you guys just need to calm the F down. go play something else if the glitches/bugs annoy you that much. come back for the next build. but hating on the game and developers and saying that this game will be failure is just LOL stupid.. Its not glitches and bugs thats the problem. Those things are expected in beta. Its not the fact that it needs more polish its the core gameplay thats boring and just plain terrible...they c+ánt fix that without a complete rebuild. Those of u waiting for some big spectacular changes by release are holding onto false hope. This is the core game and only minor improvements will be made by release. Polish and fixed bugs dont improve the core gameplay. The game is boring and thats not going to change...no matter how much we wish for it.
So what is it about the game play that you dislike? seems to be pretty standard FPS stuff, shooting people, blowing stuff up. I'm a little confused about what you find boring.. please enlighten us all about exciting game play!
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