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ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.07.29 14:54:00 -
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Renzo Kuken wrote:Vicx V wrote:I was SO excited about this for months, I thought it would combine MAG and Battlefield into one epic game, best of all it would be free so there'd never be a lack of players.. but after a few hours of really trying to like this game, it fails miserably. I LOVE the depth of the dropsuit customization system, the market place and all the other details that allow you to customize your character to your needs, the MMO influence from Eve Online really shows in this regard.. but at the end of the day it's the gameplay that completely and utterly ******* SUCKS! It feels like an extremely budget version of MAG and Section 8 Prejudice combined, except it feels even MORE cheap and budget (in fact I feel like getting back into both of those games right now) The incredibly BLAND graphics, the lag, the multitude of weapons that all end up being small variations of eachother and all look and feel pretty much the same with minor RoF and damage attributes.. I could go on, but my point is, regardless of all the attention to detail in the customization, the game itself just simply licks the sweat off a dead donkey's dry salty ballsack.
It's no wonder they're charging $20 for the Mercenary Pack, because that's the most money they'll be able to extract from people who've yet to play the game. A majority of people will end up disgusted and only a small minority, even smaller than the niche gamers in MAG and S8P will stick with this game simply due to it being a free game and possibly out of pure boredom. Once the final product releases on PSN, people will download, try it out and most will never touch it again. That's the single biggest reason they released the Mercenary pack, to milk all the eager and optimistic and people who like me, think this game has huge potential.
Unless the gameplay is seriously overhalled FROM SCRATCH, this game will fail within months of release. The ONLY thing that'll keep this game alive in the long term is the fact that it's free, which will entice the players with the absolute lowest of standards and that market alone.
I sincerely wanted this game to conquer and succeed, but the fact is the gameplay just ain't fun.. although it has the scope and potential to be, it SO does! that's why I'm so genuinely disappointed.
So from me, goodbye and good riddance. hey moron the game is in its second build...what part of work in progress do you not understand???
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Iceyburnz
316
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Posted - 2012.07.29 14:57:00 -
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Vicx V wrote:I was SO excited about this for months...[stuff] So from me, goodbye and good riddance.
So instead of offering concise and construct ways to make the game better. You chose to offer non-sensical comparatives and throw your dummy out of the pram.
They really should have some kind of test before they let 'these people' onto the internet.
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Grizl Takus
13
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Posted - 2012.07.29 14:59:00 -
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For those of you that want to make "constructive" posts how about you do so without saying how the game is destined to fail because when you say things like that it tends to make people who don't feel that way want to cuss you out and drive you off instead why don't you go post in the Feedback forum or do that little survey that CCP has up and then at the end type your concerns and feedback there in a polite way no: "This game is like licking a dead donkey's salty ball sack." Instead of saying stupid crap like that actually make a constructive post that someone will actually want to read and respond well too. |
Chihiro Itto
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:04:00 -
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People who say they dislike a game then spend their time on that game's forums instead of doing something else with their lives make me larf. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:04:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:Renzo Kuken wrote:hey moron the game is in its second build...what part of work in progress do you not understand??? third actually And that's only counting beta builds, not pre-alpha builds or the first wave of in-house testing. |
Vicx V
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:09:00 -
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Mo Gallas Gentralde wrote:Vicx V wrote: this game will fail within months of release. The ONLY thing that'll keep this game alive in the long term is the fact that it's free You just said "This game will fail, because it will succeed." If a game stays alive, it's economically sound. If a game is economically sound, that means it has succeeded. Vicx V wrote:I was SO excited about this for months, I thought it would combine MAG and Battlefield into one epic game, best of all it would be free so there'd never be a lack of players.. but after a few hours of really trying to like this game, it fails miserably. I LOVE the depth of the dropsuit customization system, the market place and all the other details that allow you to customize your character to your needs, the MMO influence from Eve Online really shows in this regard.. but at the end of the day it's the gameplay that completely and utterly ******* SUCKS! It feels like an extremely budget version of MAG and Section 8 Prejudice combined, except it feels even MORE cheap and budget (in fact I feel like getting back into both of those games right now)
I sincerely wanted this game to conquer and succeed, but the fact is the gameplay just ain't fun.. although it has the scope and potential to be, it SO does! that's why I'm so genuinely disappointed.
So from me, goodbye and good riddance. Definition of BETA: You ask other people to test things REPETITIVELY so you can figure out what is broken or needs to be changed. You're basically telling everyone here that you came and "didn't want to test things repetitively". Why in the world did you sign up for a BETA then? Seriously? You're complaining that YOU chose to do something. We are not being given everything at once, because they need a good quantity of data on the items they give us before they drop a new one on the field. That means we're going to be doing the same things over... and over... and over again.
It's kind of like volunteering to work at a Zoo, then breaking down hysterically because there are too many people around you pointing at animals.
wow, completely missing the point yet again. Yes you're right about the definition of a Beta, and I applaud anyone who has tortured themselves to keep putting themselves through this bs. I know it's a beta and that there are bugs and problems to find and solve, my point was I was highlighting the terrible gameplay mechanics, that go far beyond any minor bugs that need to be identified and ironed out. Is it really that hard to see where I'm coming from?
and by staying alive, I meant it will be because the absolute bottom end of the market with zero standards will be the ones playing this which there is an abundance of. But WHY settle for mediocrity? WHY settle for the lowest end of the market when you have a game with SO MUCH potential to rival even paid-for games like BF3 and MW3.. why sell your product short with all this potential?
Iceyburnz wrote:Vicx V wrote:I was SO excited about this for months...[stuff] So from me, goodbye and good riddance. So instead of offering concise and construct ways to make the game better. You chose to offer non-sensical comparatives and throw your dummy out of the pram. There's no need to be concise, I've made it clear it's the overall gameplay and shooting mechanics, the bulk of the game that needs addressing. And according to these other posts, others have already pointed out specifics but have been ignored.
Alright I've made my point, I'm simply just repeating myself now. As long as CCP acknowledge these points this thread will have served it's purpose. Good luck.
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crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:10:00 -
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Go play the massively still popular warhawk, then play the dust beta again.
Also how is the forge gun, pistol, rifle, sniper , and grenade launchers anything like each other? |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:10:00 -
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Dust 514 has been in developement for more then 3 years. Expecting more solidity is really that foolish?! |
Vicx V
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:10:00 -
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Chihiro Itto wrote:People who say they dislike a game then spend their time on that game's forums instead of doing something else with their lives make me larf.
Read my 2nd post in this thread, it's called caring about a game enough to come back and provide constructive criticism, something you've obviously never heard of or even considered. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:13:00 -
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The OP seems to have intimate knowledge on the subject of interspecies ball licking, I wonder how? |
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ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:14:00 -
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crazy space wrote:Go play the massively still popular warhawk, then play the dust beta again.
Also how is the forge gun, pistol, rifle, sniper , and grenade launchers anything like each other?
Go play any AAA shooter and then come back to DUST |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:16:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:crazy space wrote:Go play the massively still popular warhawk, then play the dust beta again.
Also how is the forge gun, pistol, rifle, sniper , and grenade launchers anything like each other? Go play any AAA shooter and then come back to DUST Naah, just go play any AAA shooter and don't come back at all.
Also can I have your stuff? |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:16:00 -
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I have been saying that Dust 514 needs to match the standard of other FPS and I was insulted as if being as good as the best FPS on the market is something to despise. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:17:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:crazy space wrote:Go play the massively still popular warhawk, then play the dust beta again.
Also how is the forge gun, pistol, rifle, sniper , and grenade launchers anything like each other? Go play any AAA shooter and then come back to DUST Naah, just go play any AAA shooter and don't come back at all. Also can I have your stuff?
stroke me hard baby |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:20:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:Rasatsu wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:crazy space wrote:Go play the massively still popular warhawk, then play the dust beta again.
Also how is the forge gun, pistol, rifle, sniper , and grenade launchers anything like each other? Go play any AAA shooter and then come back to DUST Naah, just go play any AAA shooter and don't come back at all. Also can I have your stuff? stroke me hard baby As long as you understand who's alpha and who's beta in this relationship. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:21:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:I have been saying that Dust 514 needs to match the standard of other FPS and I was insulted as if being as good as the best FPS on the market is something to despise. People aren't saying that DUST shouldn't match the quality of other games.
We're saying it shouldn't try to BE the other games, and we're saying that it's stupid to expect something that's still blatantly a work in progress to be at that level already when it's still in closed beta. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:23:00 -
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This thread is just 1 clusterfuck with no constructive anything in it
Should let it die tbh |
Bresker Veyne
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:24:00 -
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The majority of the people in beta don't go to these forums (thank god for that). They wanna play the game, see what it's all about and maybe have a little fun.
So, what do you experience when you first enter the game: instant death by all those with better gear and unclear tutorials about how the fitting and market system works. As a new player you are forced to run behind your team mates like a little lapdog or pray for a tank or decent fitted dropship to come by so you can become a gunner.
Basically, new players aren't allowed to have fun in this build. So ofcourse a lot of players decided to drop the game! The vast majority of the people who use this forum already have the sp to be able to kill people, and there are a lot of people who are too stupid to realise how frustrating it is for a newer player to get to this point!
Not only the big skill point gap, but the clunky gameplay and hit detection failing is a big turn off. I realise that this is a beta, but the game seriously needs to be a lot smoother when it comes out. I'm amazed that this game already has fanboys, but they're useless when it comes to giving feedback for the game.
So I hope CCP will keep this game in beta as long as possible untill the gameplay feels smooth and responsive. Releasing it in it's current state would be a death sentence. |
Iceyburnz
316
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:25:00 -
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Vicx V wrote: There's no need to be concise, I've made it clear it's the overall gameplay and shooting mechanics, the bulk of the game that needs addressing. And according to these other posts, others have already pointed out specifics but have been ignored.
Because CCP devs don't answer every single post does not mean they have been ignored. Testing the game and providing constructive feed back is an obligation we have as players while participating in the BETA.
You did not provide constructive feedback, instead you adopted the "angry consumer" persona. In your post you even identify how your where "mis-sold" the product stating that the product itself is merely a knock off of other similar products. It seems to me you undertook play testing in the completely wrong mind set. Let me clarify; are not a consumer where Dust 514 is concerned. You are a "participant", bound by a civil agreement you chose to accept.
You only have yourself to blame for your disappointment.
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Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:25:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:This thread is just 1 clusterfuck with no constructive anything in it
Should let it die tbh
That sums up what the forums have been like all morning. Nothing, but trolls, circle jerking, and other ignorant fools ranting, raging, and clogging up the forums.
Stupidity this morning is rampant. |
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ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:28:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:Rasatsu wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:crazy space wrote:Go play the massively still popular warhawk, then play the dust beta again.
Also how is the forge gun, pistol, rifle, sniper , and grenade launchers anything like each other? Go play any AAA shooter and then come back to DUST Naah, just go play any AAA shooter and don't come back at all. Also can I have your stuff? stroke me hard baby As long as you understand who's alpha and who's beta in this relationship.
all be Beta but we have to let Delta in as well... pretty please |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:30:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:This thread is just 1 clusterfuck with no constructive anything in it
Should let it die tbh That sums up what the forums have been like all morning. Nothing, but trolls, circle jerking, and other ignorant fools ranting, raging, and clogging up the forums. Stupidity this morning is rampant.
HeZ HAz no gun game so all he do is type on ForumZ |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:31:00 -
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It is strange how people get chastised on these forums for pointing out flaws or dislikings with the game, regardless of being in beta or not. It's safe to assume we all want this game to succeed. Some are just less convinced that the game will actually be good unless some drastic changes are made, which is a perfectly valid opinion considering a 2012 release was stated, as far as i know the game has been in development since 2009, if this is the result of 4 years of development, that's more than a little concerning. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:33:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:This thread is just 1 clusterfuck with no constructive anything in it
Should let it die tbh That sums up what the forums have been like all morning. Nothing, but trolls, circle jerking, and other ignorant fools ranting, raging, and clogging up the forums. Stupidity this morning is rampant. HeZ HAz no gun game so all he do is type on ForumZ
Uh-huh. Okay troll. Say what you want. All I see is some pathetic tween with no life outside of what self gratification and validation he can get from flaunting, and stroking e-peen.
Your move, ma'am. |
JaZZa01
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
81
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:36:00 -
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Sojuro Ryo wrote:JaZZa01 wrote:Lmao, look at all these fanboys. When somebody says something bad, it's like a child responding with their hands over their ears, "NO NO, BETA, LA LA LA, DUST IS PERFECT."
+1 to OP. Game won't change. Release will just have more skills and items. Gameplay overhaul as Templar stated, is impossible. Partly because CCP don't know what they're doing, but mostly the moronic fanbase that enjoys half-assed mechanics already has a foothold. No one is saying it's perfect. We're just saying don't complain about it as if it were released. If you truly thin the way you do then why are you here wasting our space? Just leave and be done with it. Constructive criticism is good but whining is childish. CCP didn't put up a sub-forum called Feedback/Requests for nothing. And therein lies the problem. People can be constructive all they want, but the vocal players that already have an appreciation for inferiority will always reject criticism as invalid. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:38:00 -
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JaZZa01 wrote:Lmao, look at all these fanboys. When somebody says something bad, it's like a child responding with their hands over their ears, "NO NO, BETA, LA LA LA, DUST IS PERFECT."
+1 to OP. Game won't change. Release will just have more skills and items. Gameplay overhaul as Templar stated, is impossible. Partly because CCP don't know what they're doing, but mostly the moronic fanbase that enjoys half-assed mechanics already has a foothold.
This |
Grizl Takus
13
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:40:00 -
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JaZZa01 wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:JaZZa01 wrote:Lmao, look at all these fanboys. When somebody says something bad, it's like a child responding with their hands over their ears, "NO NO, BETA, LA LA LA, DUST IS PERFECT."
+1 to OP. Game won't change. Release will just have more skills and items. Gameplay overhaul as Templar stated, is impossible. Partly because CCP don't know what they're doing, but mostly the moronic fanbase that enjoys half-assed mechanics already has a foothold. No one is saying it's perfect. We're just saying don't complain about it as if it were released. If you truly thin the way you do then why are you here wasting our space? Just leave and be done with it. Constructive criticism is good but whining is childish. CCP didn't put up a sub-forum called Feedback/Requests for nothing. And therein lies the problem. People can be constructive all they want, but the vocal players that already have an appreciation for inferiority will always reject criticism as invalid.
No It's rejected when all it is in name calling and premonitions of fail which is all the OP's post is. |
Darky SI
232
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:42:00 -
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Bresker Veyne wrote:The majority of the people in beta don't go to these forums (thank god for that). They wanna play the game, see what it's all about and maybe have a little fun.
So, what do you experience when you first enter the game: instant death by all those with better gear and unclear tutorials about how the fitting and market system works. As a new player you are forced to run behind your team mates like a little lapdog or pray for a tank or decent fitted dropship to come by so you can become a gunner.
Basically, new players aren't allowed to have fun in this build. So ofcourse a lot of players decided to drop the game! The vast majority of the people who use this forum already have the sp to be able to kill people, and there are a lot of people who are too stupid to realise how frustrating it is for a newer player to get to this point!
Not only the big skill point gap, but the clunky gameplay and hit detection failing is a big turn off. I realise that this is a beta, but the game seriously needs to be a lot smoother when it comes out. I'm amazed that this game already has fanboys, but they're useless when it comes to giving feedback for the game.
So I hope CCP will keep this game in beta as long as possible untill the gameplay feels smooth and responsive. Releasing it in it's current state would be a death sentence. You want constructive criticism CCP, This^^ |
Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:45:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:This thread is just 1 clusterfuck with no constructive anything in it
Should let it die tbh That sums up what the forums have been like all morning. Nothing, but trolls, circle jerking, and other ignorant fools ranting, raging, and clogging up the forums. Stupidity this morning is rampant. HeZ HAz no gun game so all he do is type on ForumZ Uh-huh. Okay troll. Say what you want. All I see is some pathetic tween with no life outside of what self gratification and validation he can get from flaunting, and stroking e-peen. Your move, ma'am.
your very ignorant |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:46:00 -
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Benjamin Hellios wrote:It is strange how people get chastised on these forums for pointing out flaws or dislikings with the game, regardless of being in beta or not. It's safe to assume we all want this game to succeed. Some are just less convinced that the game will actually be good unless some drastic changes are made, which is a perfectly valid opinion considering a 2012 release was stated, as far as i know the game has been in development since 2009, if this is the result of 4 years of development, that's more than a little concerning.
That's me. Still when I say it I am regarded as a fool.
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