DUST Search - [graphics and gameplay are bad in the beta]

Alkai Chromision wrote:

Dewie Cheecham wrote:

JaZZa01 wrote:

I promise you there are hundreds of threads with legitimate criticism and ideas to fix the game, that are buried 50 pages back.
All the developers will read is the first few pages, full of "DUST APPRECIATION", "GREAT JOB CCP, LOOKIN FORWARD TO IT" threads, which the silly players continue to reinforce, overlooking the big problems.

There is a difference you are forgetting.

The appreciative comments are the ones applauding progress. And there have been a lot of that.
But criticism comes in many forms, and the threads that want DUST to be more like other, old games, are generally not to be taken seriously at all. Not that DUST can't learn from their successes and failures, it should, but the entire foundation of DUST is just too alien for it to be like CoD, BF, Halo or other existing games.

DUST is the first FPS that have made me laugh, smile, frown and rage.
Inside a minute.

I was bored with CoD after an hour. An hour of really trying.

Not all criticisms want a game to be like CoD or BF, or MoH, or any others. I wanted to like this game because it was different. I'm great at CoD, good at BF3, was great a Homefront..... I wanted this game because it was different and I wanted it to be. We don't need more of the same. There will be more CoD and more BF no question. My qualms with the game are all gameplay related. Not graphics, not because there's no throwing knives or killstreaks, or anything else. There are valid points for and against the game, for me the pros don't outweigh the cons. And these forums are for those who have tested this product to voice their opinions. Not to voice there opinions on a finished product but to voice their opinions on a beta. So then why are people upset because other people have an opinion on a beta?


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Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 811	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:00:00 - [1] - Quote Alkai Chromision wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: JaZZa01 wrote: I promise you there are hundreds of threads with legitimate criticism and ideas to fix the game, that are buried 50 pages back. All the developers will read is the first few pages, full of "DUST APPRECIATION", "GREAT JOB CCP, LOOKIN FORWARD TO IT" threads, which the silly players continue to reinforce, overlooking the big problems. There is a difference you are forgetting. The appreciative comments are the ones applauding progress. And there have been a lot of that. But criticism comes in many forms, and the threads that want DUST to be more like other, old games, are generally not to be taken seriously at all. Not that DUST can't learn from their successes and failures, it should, but the entire foundation of DUST is just too alien for it to be like CoD, BF, Halo or other existing games. DUST is the first FPS that have made me laugh, smile, frown and rage. Inside a minute. I was bored with CoD after an hour. An hour of really trying. Not all criticisms want a game to be like CoD or BF, or MoH, or any others. I wanted to like this game because it was different. I'm great at CoD, good at BF3, was great a Homefront..... I wanted this game because it was different and I wanted it to be. We don't need more of the same. There will be more CoD and more BF no question. My qualms with the game are all gameplay related. Not graphics, not because there's no throwing knives or killstreaks, or anything else. There are valid points for and against the game, for me the pros don't outweigh the cons. And these forums are for those who have tested this product to voice their opinions. Not to voice there opinions on a finished product but to voice their opinions on a beta. So then why are people upset because other people have an opinion on a beta? Well, the problem is that this beta still has the better part of a year's worth of development and improvements ahead of it, but people like the OP treat it likes it's a finished product. Just look at the basic gameplay improvements that we got from the last build to the current build, and then realize the developers are currently 2 or 3 builds out ahead of the one we are currently playing. We don't have proper spawn mechanics yet, probably less than half the gear, we've got 3 out of 7,000 maps, no corporations, no market, no grouping, no PvE, no player contracts, low res unfinished graphics and textures, unfinished optimization for draw distance, etc, etc. Anyone who thinks they can make judgements calls yet on whether or not this game will be "good" upon release is CLEARLY talking out of their ass. That doesn't mean there aren't problems, there are TONS of problems, but that's the point of this beta. It's just "this game sucks, it's not as good as games A, B, or C that are all finished products" is a clear indicator that someone doesn't have a proper grasp on what they are talking about. It's like watching The Joy Of Painting for the first 10 minutes and saying "That doesn't look anything like a lake surrounded by trees with mountains in the background, Bob Ross sucks and that painting looks like gibberish and will never look like anything other than blobs of paint" and then changing the channel. If you've got problems with how the beta plays then at least post in the feedback section. When someone comes into General Discussions and fills their thread with ignorant statements and incorrect assumptions, they shouldn't expect anyone to take the legitimate criticisms they sprinkle in seriously. Also, I'm no fanboy. I've never played EVE, and frankly, I don't give a **** if Dust succeeds or fails. It's a free game, so if it sucks I simply won't play it, but at this point in the beta it's impossible to say how the final release will look.