Wait until they fully open the game to ps3 community, ccp will have a nightmare on there hands with angry players demanding removal of kb/m.... They really should wait for an expansion to add kb/m and ask the ps3 community if they want it when they are all here. I have 5 friends in beta, all console players, all 5 don't want it on our console.

Cross-posting my response from another thread:

As someone who has extensive FPS experience with both KBM and controller, I can confidently say that any decent KBM player will wtfpwn any controller player. If KBM is allowed in DUST, it will become an even bigger balancing challenge than balancing n00bs and those with millions of SP. In fact, I don't see how KBM and controller could be balanced, unless turn speed is locked for KBM - and that might not be workable at all.

As much as I hate to say this, KBM is a really really bad idea for DUST. If every PS3 player had a bluetooth KB+M (I do), it would be a whole different story - but they don't.

From what I've read, it is coming. And I think this isn't a good thing due to the fact that people using KB&M will have a distinct advantage over people, like myself, using the DS3. I think they should leave it out, for the sake of balance and playability, in my opinion.

Not going to matter what CCP does.


Keyboard and Mouse are already being used in Dust, BF3, Killzone, and every other FPS on the PS3.

Not going to matter what CCP does.


Keyboard and Mouse are already being used in Dust, BF3, Killzone, and every other FPS on the PS3.

Whut. Unreal is the only console FPS I know that has KBM support. If you're referring to the different KBM contraptions for consoles, it's a negligent part of the playerbase. I haven't tried them myself, but they reportedly have spotty performance and can be a PITA.

Cross-posting my response from another thread:

As someone who has extensive FPS experience with both KBM and controller, I can confidently say that any decent KBM player will wtfpwn any controller player. If KBM is allowed in DUST, it will become an even bigger balancing challenge than balancing n00bs and those with millions of SP. In fact, I don't see how KBM and controller could be balanced, unless turn speed is locked for KBM - and that might not be workable at all.

As much as I hate to say this, KBM is a really really bad idea for DUST. If every PS3 player had a bluetooth KB+M (I do), it would be a whole different story - but they don't.

I haven't tried them myself, but they reportedly have spotty performance and can be a PITA.

Wait, people are still talking about this? Why is everyone so divided over this issue? Why can't PC gamers and console gamers EVER get along? Christ - pick whichever tool you prefer and use it. I've seen people with a controller obliterate KBM players, and I've seen the opposite. It's all in the SKILL OF THE PERSON USING THE TOOL. This argument is entirely void of merit.

I know some dedicated PS3 players who use both, naturally not in their living room.

I am an EVE player who never played a console FPS and I do find it hard to rack up K/D, however I suspect that the KBM will be sufficiently nerfed that I will probably prefer using a DS3 controller in the long run.


Actually, the discussion about using KBM isn't really new to the console community. I suspect that in this instance it isn't really about KBM vs DS3.

It's the EVE/PC players, (Masters of the Universe) vs Console/FPS players, (Deadliest Gunfighters Forever) again...

What seems to drive these arguments is a simple fear of change, a reluctance to fully accept a simple fact: DUST is a brand new concept and both sides will probably have to adapt . Naturally "the Devil is in the details" but instead of focusing on those many discussions only spiral into the inevitable finger pointing.

Of course all gaming forums are full of such bickering, however here, it is compounded by the very daredevil vision CCP is trying to manifest: Combining two very different platforms and two very different play styles into one universe.
Rather then trying to be part of the birthing process, it's much easier and very tempting for both communities to simply point their fingers at the other bozos.
We even have some over qualified midwifes who instead of helping the doctor to deliver this baby have already decided that the baby will die, and are scaring all the other children with fiendish tales about doomed Frankenstein.

I know for a fact that the GIMX setup using a bluetooth dongle works perfectly. It only takes a bit of technical skill + a PC to make it work.

There's no problem with debate on the KBM issue, but as an EVE player I have to object to statements like "you're coming into my world." CCP are making a PS3 exclusive FPS specifically to tap a new market. EVE player opinions should not have any more weight than console player opinions -- and if anything, really, they should have a little less weight.

It has nothing todo with console players being afraid of change, it is simply the fact that CCP desided to make a PC game for the PS3..

Cross-posting my response from another thread:

As someone who has extensive FPS experience with both KBM and controller, I can confidently say that any decent KBM player will wtfpwn any controller player. If KBM is allowed in DUST, it will become an even bigger balancing challenge than balancing n00bs and those with millions of SP. In fact, I don't see how KBM and controller could be balanced, unless turn speed is locked for KBM - and that might not be workable at all.

As much as I hate to say this, KBM is a really really bad idea for DUST. If every PS3 player had a bluetooth KB+M (I do), it would be a whole different story - but they don't.

Ah but alas look around the forums, what you see? EVE people trying to shove their game down the throat of dust, pandering towards pc elements, rpg elements...anything but fps, and if you complain "go back to cod" "adapt or die" the last one being hypocritical based on the topic at hand. Dunno about you but im calling this game DOA, dead on arrival. Whose to blame? look around...

Sounds like a pretty easy problem to fix. Buy one, its not like they are expensive, especially if one cares for performance.

Anyway, I am in favour of kbm on ps3, its a superior interface and franckly every game should have support for it, i am sure a lot of people would give up their pc's over a console, wich is pretty much a pc anyway.

Raaargh I'm a PC player Raaargh. Raaargh console players should have to adapt to a M+KB even though it's a console Raaargh.
That's what I got from that message.

It's a console, where the guys who made said console gave developers the ability to support KB/M as an optional control option if they wanted to do so.

That's not the problem. The problem is some PC players telling console users to adapt by using a KB+M but yet they won't adapt to a controller. The point is KB+M should not be at an advantage, that's like me going on PC and somehow have the controller at a bigger advantage (hypothetically speaking). PC players would kick up as much of a fuss as the console players do. If they make it so they are both on even playing field then that's fine, however if they do not the game could be dead before it even get's released.