DUST Search - Is M&KB support really coming to DUST 514?

Tariq Tamir wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

jus nukem wrote:

Cuz if it is... then alot of DS3 ONLY players are going to be turned off by the game. M&KB v DS3= Bringing a knife (ds3) to a gunfight (m&kb) ending in rage quitting for ds3 players ALL DAY! Ultimately resulting in the demise of DUST 514 on the ps3! Hopefully that doesn't happen. What do you guys think about it?

I think that as an Eve Online player - you're coming into my world at the expense of most of my companions not being able to partake in their fate. As such, being as I'm not as skilled with a DS3, while a mouse and keyboard may be more advantageous it's something that I'm used to. When this game was announced to be console only a lot of Eve players were discouraged - I went out and bought a PS3 specifically for this opportunity. Having a keyboard and mouse as my combat format just seems to lighten the blow a little bit.

There's no problem with debate on the KBM issue, but as an EVE player I have to object to statements like "you're coming into my world." CCP are making a PS3 exclusive FPS specifically to tap a new market. EVE player opinions should not have any more weight than console player opinions -- and if anything, really, they should have a little less weight.

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jus nukem 19	Posted - 2012.07.27 23:08:00 - [1] - Quote Cuz if it is... then alot of DS3 ONLY players are going to be turned off by the game. M&KB v DS3= Bringing a knife (ds3) to a gunfight (m&kb) ending in rage quitting for ds3 players ALL DAY! Ultimately resulting in the demise of DUST 514 on the ps3! Hopefully that doesn't happen. What do you guys think about it?
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.07.27 23:16:00 - [2] - Quote jus nukem wrote: Cuz if it is... then alot of DS3 ONLY players are going to be turned off by the game. M&KB v DS3= Bringing a knife (ds3) to a gunfight (m&kb) ending in rage quitting for ds3 players ALL DAY! Ultimately resulting in the demise of DUST 514 on the ps3! Hopefully that doesn't happen. What do you guys think about it? I think that as an Eve Online player - you're coming into my world at the expense of most of my companions not being able to partake in their fate. As such, being as I'm not as skilled with a DS3, while a mouse and keyboard may be more advantageous it's something that I'm used to. When this game was announced to be console only a lot of Eve players were discouraged - I went out and bought a PS3 specifically for this opportunity. Having a keyboard and mouse as my combat format just seems to lighten the blow a little bit.
Devil Biff Imperfects Negative-Feedback 55	Posted - 2012.07.27 23:24:00 - [3] - Quote It has been stated that there will be kb/m option. It will be "nerfed" so to speak. That way it won't be a huge advantage. Alot of the ps3 games that utilize it adjust the controls, like turn radius, etc, tomatch the ds3. I would go out on a limb an say Sony would be pushing it that way.
Grit Breather BetaMax. 660	Posted - 2012.07.27 23:29:00 - [4] - Quote I actually think Dust will fully support KB/M. But "fully support" it only where it fits into the game properly and that's where the DS3 or Move controllers aren't really good. Dust is going to have a lot of Neocom work, planet design, structure planning, large battle movements etc'. Those are classic uses for KB/M. I think the battles themselves will remain DS3/Move pure.
Kcobra Rod Foxhound Corporation 55	Posted - 2012.07.27 23:30:00 - [5] - Quote Eve players always say "adapt or die" or something lyk that, but its funny when they start bitchn about keyboard and mouse support... Adapt or die
Arcushek Dion Doomheim 73	Posted - 2012.07.27 23:32:00 - [6] - Quote Nope kb&m for shooting people in the face.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.07.28 00:38:00 - [7] - Quote Grit Breather wrote: I actually think Dust will fully support KB/M. But "fully support" it only where it fits into the game properly and that's where the DS3 or Move controllers aren't really good. Dust is going to have a lot of Neocom work, planet design, structure planning, large battle movements etc'. Those are classic uses for KB/M. I think the battles themselves will remain DS3/Move pure. There was an earlier thread that confirmed that KBM -WILL- be used for combat.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.07.28 00:39:00 - [8] - Quote Kcobra Rod wrote: Eve players always say "adapt or die" or something lyk that, but its funny when they start bitchn about keyboard and mouse support... Adapt or die Hell, they said that support was going to be in from the very beginning. This isn't anything new.
Sid Napier Bragian Order Amarr Empire 82	Posted - 2012.07.28 00:54:00 - [9] - Quote Lovely, now the game will be broken. The whole point they made DUST PS3 only was to not split the fanbase, if they are going to give the minority of the fanbase a superior advantage then I don't see myself playing this game anymore.
Kcobra Rod Foxhound Corporation 55	Posted - 2012.07.28 01:06:00 - [10] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Kcobra Rod wrote: Eve players always say "adapt or die" or something lyk that, but its funny when they start bitchn about keyboard and mouse support... Adapt or die Hell, they said that support was going to be in from the very beginning. This isn't anything new. Adapt or die

xeto rak Epidemic. Space Immigration 23	Posted - 2012.07.28 01:27:00 - [11] - Quote You can always try KB/M and see if it's better than the standard controller. Nothing is broken, it's a matter of choice.
Ayures0 259	Posted - 2012.07.28 01:29:00 - [12] - Quote Sid Napier wrote: Lovely, now the game will be broken. The whole point they made DUST PS3 only was to not split the fanbase, if they are going to give the minority of the fanbase a superior advantage then I don't see myself playing this game anymore. Think of it as a niche community. EVE isn't for everyone. DUST wont be for everyone. The people that actually ride it out, figure out the game, and excel at it are going to be hooked.
Sid Napier Bragian Order Amarr Empire 82	Posted - 2012.07.28 01:31:00 - [13] - Quote Ayures0 wrote: Sid Napier wrote: Lovely, now the game will be broken. The whole point they made DUST PS3 only was to not split the fanbase, if they are going to give the minority of the fanbase a superior advantage then I don't see myself playing this game anymore. Think of it as a niche community. EVE isn't for everyone. DUST wont be for everyone. The people that actually ride it out, figure out the game, and excel at it are going to be hooked. No, there is a difference in 'Not for everyone' and 'You must buy and learn to use this piece of hardware to be any good at this game even though the console you use doesn't ever use this piece of hardware and the majority of the playerbase will not use the hardware'.
Ayures0 259	Posted - 2012.07.28 01:33:00 - [14] - Quote Sid Napier wrote: Ayures0 wrote: Sid Napier wrote: Lovely, now the game will be broken. The whole point they made DUST PS3 only was to not split the fanbase, if they are going to give the minority of the fanbase a superior advantage then I don't see myself playing this game anymore. Think of it as a niche community. EVE isn't for everyone. DUST wont be for everyone. The people that actually ride it out, figure out the game, and excel at it are going to be hooked. No, there is a difference in 'Not for everyone' and 'You must buy and learn to use this piece of hardware to be any good at this game even though the console you use doesn't ever use this piece of hardware and the majority of the playerbase will not use the hardware'. ...You don't know how to work a mouse and keyboard?
Sid Napier Bragian Order Amarr Empire 82	Posted - 2012.07.28 01:35:00 - [15] - Quote Ayures0 wrote: Sid Napier wrote: Ayures0 wrote: Sid Napier wrote: Lovely, now the game will be broken. The whole point they made DUST PS3 only was to not split the fanbase, if they are going to give the minority of the fanbase a superior advantage then I don't see myself playing this game anymore. Think of it as a niche community. EVE isn't for everyone. DUST wont be for everyone. The people that actually ride it out, figure out the game, and excel at it are going to be hooked. No, there is a difference in 'Not for everyone' and 'You must buy and learn to use this piece of hardware to be any good at this game even though the console you use doesn't ever use this piece of hardware and the majority of the playerbase will not use the hardware'. ...You don't know how to work a mouse and keyboard? I use my laptop thing to surf the web and type, not learn the location of keys and precisely aim, I have a touchpad. My room layout is also not built for M&KB.
Jesse Jayne ZionTCD Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2012.07.28 01:37:00 - [16] - Quote It is ccp's game to break if mouse an keyboard breaks the game it will come out of their pockets if they make it work they will keep their bank accounts full. Just go with it an see what happens.
Sid Napier Bragian Order Amarr Empire 82	Posted - 2012.07.28 01:38:00 - [17] - Quote Nice logic, never complain, get ******.
Tariq Tamir Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2012.07.28 01:55:00 - [18] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: jus nukem wrote: Cuz if it is... then alot of DS3 ONLY players are going to be turned off by the game. M&KB v DS3= Bringing a knife (ds3) to a gunfight (m&kb) ending in rage quitting for ds3 players ALL DAY! Ultimately resulting in the demise of DUST 514 on the ps3! Hopefully that doesn't happen. What do you guys think about it? I think that as an Eve Online player - you're coming into my world at the expense of most of my companions not being able to partake in their fate. As such, being as I'm not as skilled with a DS3, while a mouse and keyboard may be more advantageous it's something that I'm used to. When this game was announced to be console only a lot of Eve players were discouraged - I went out and bought a PS3 specifically for this opportunity. Having a keyboard and mouse as my combat format just seems to lighten the blow a little bit. There's no problem with debate on the KBM issue, but as an EVE player I have to object to statements like "you're coming into my world." CCP are making a PS3 exclusive FPS specifically to tap a new market. EVE player opinions should not have any more weight than console player opinions -- and if anything, really, they should have a little less weight.
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.07.28 02:00:00 - [19] - Quote i've heard from many places that M/KB support will be in the next update, coming August
Raynor Ragna 266	Posted - 2012.07.28 02:50:00 - [20] - Quote xeto rak wrote: You can always try KB/M and see if it's better than the standard controller. Nothing is broken, it's a matter of choice. +1 for this. Theres no reason why KBM support shouldn't be on these types of games already.

Rohkum Rumik Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.07.28 02:53:00 - [21] - Quote I favor M/KB as I've always hated how the sticks are terrible. I bought a ps3 and a move mostly for this game. Move controls have been god awful in every shooter I've tried them in. Would it be so hard to move with the joy stick either without strafing (old skool) or better yet, hold a button... now you are in turn mode for precise aiming/turning. Also the deadzones currently have no effect for me so, move is completely unusable at the momemnt. As my prior mentioned hate towards analog sticks... They are just terribly designed... I've used joysticks from the early 90's playing Rebel Assalt on pc pluged into a sound card that work better than console sticks have ever worked. In either case until I can force myself to use these forsaken sticks, or they fix the move controls I'm not going to be able to test any further.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.07.28 03:00:00 - [22] - Quote Rohkum Rumik wrote: I don't have KB/M yet so i'm not playing anymore Seriously. So people talk about how harsh of a game eve is and everyone should just HTFU yet they can't adapt to DS3 so they don't play. No wonder the numbers have been so low. Its the eve players that need to HTFU
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.07.28 03:38:00 - [23] - Quote Kcobra Rod wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Kcobra Rod wrote: Eve players always say "adapt or die" or something lyk that, but its funny when they start bitchn about keyboard and mouse support... Adapt or die Hell, they said that support was going to be in from the very beginning. This isn't anything new. Adapt or die I'm a DS3 user. YOU adapt or die.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.07.28 03:40:00 - [24] - Quote Tariq Tamir wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: jus nukem wrote: Cuz if it is... then alot of DS3 ONLY players are going to be turned off by the game. M&KB v DS3= Bringing a knife (ds3) to a gunfight (m&kb) ending in rage quitting for ds3 players ALL DAY! Ultimately resulting in the demise of DUST 514 on the ps3! Hopefully that doesn't happen. What do you guys think about it? I think that as an Eve Online player - you're coming into my world at the expense of most of my companions not being able to partake in their fate. As such, being as I'm not as skilled with a DS3, while a mouse and keyboard may be more advantageous it's something that I'm used to. When this game was announced to be console only a lot of Eve players were discouraged - I went out and bought a PS3 specifically for this opportunity. Having a keyboard and mouse as my combat format just seems to lighten the blow a little bit. There's no problem with debate on the KBM issue, but as an EVE player I have to object to statements like "you're coming into my world." CCP are making a PS3 exclusive FPS specifically to tap a new market. EVE player opinions should not have any more weight than console player opinions -- and if anything, really, they should have a little less weight. Exactly. Just because EVE has been around longer doesn't mean we -own- New Eden.
zerkin gerend Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 67	Posted - 2012.07.28 03:52:00 - [25] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: jus nukem wrote: Cuz if it is... then alot of DS3 ONLY players are going to be turned off by the game. M&KB v DS3= Bringing a knife (ds3) to a gunfight (m&kb) ending in rage quitting for ds3 players ALL DAY! Ultimately resulting in the demise of DUST 514 on the ps3! Hopefully that doesn't happen. What do you guys think about it? I think that as an Eve Online player - you're coming into my world at the expense of most of my companions not being able to partake in their fate. As such, being as I'm not as skilled with a DS3, while a mouse and keyboard may be more advantageous it's something that I'm used to. When this game was announced to be console only a lot of Eve players were discouraged - I went out and bought a PS3 specifically for this opportunity. Having a keyboard and mouse as my combat format just seems to lighten the blow a little bit. "adapt or die" Cuts Both Ways
Adahn Shovak Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.07.28 23:08:00 - [26] - Quote With or without the inclusion of KB&M (Keyboard & Mouse), certain segments of the available market will face barriers to entry. PC KB&M-diehard barrier to entry: Buying a PS3 console. ($300) PS3 player barrier to entry: Buying a KB&M. ($20) It's not the players who need to adapt or die... it's Dust. I really don't care what some horse & buggy anti-car luddites think because they don't want to shell out to adapt to the way FPS gaming evolved. Learn how to use KB&M NOW, while you're in on the ground-floor. Because PC port WILL happen - maybe not in a year, maybe not in two, but it's inevitable. And when it does, you will rage so much harder that newbie scrubs are melting your faces. Adapt to the playstyle of the future.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 811	Posted - 2012.07.28 23:13:00 - [27] - Quote Adahn Shovak wrote: With or without the inclusion of KB&M (Keyboard & Mouse), certain segments of the available market will face barriers to entry. PC KB&M-diehard barrier to entry: Buying a PS3 console. ($300) PS3 player barrier to entry: Buying a KB&M. ($20) It's not the players who need to adapt or die... it's Dust. I really don't care what some horse & buggy anti-car luddites think because they don't want to shell out to adapt to the way FPS gaming evolved. Learn how to use KB&M NOW, while you're in on the ground-floor. Because PC port WILL happen - maybe not in a year, maybe not in two, but it's inevitable. And when it does, you will rage so much harder that newbie scrubs are melting your faces. Adapt to the playstyle of the future. I love this ridiculous fallacy that gaming evolved from handheld controllers into using a data entry device designed for typing rather than the other way around.
Milk Supreme ZionTCD Legacy Rising 127	Posted - 2012.07.28 23:13:00 - [28] - Quote Why does nobody want Kinect support?
riverini 2 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2012.07.29 13:42:00 - [29] - Quote Milk Supreme wrote: Why does nobody want Kinect support? Because after 30 mins of nonstop playing you will start to feel a condition we human interface designers call "Gorilla Arm" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#.22Gorilla_arm.22 Haven't bought a kinect, not i want to, KB/mice should be enough.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 13:59:00 - [30] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Rohkum Rumik wrote: I don't have KB/M yet so i'm not playing anymore Seriously. So people talk about how harsh of a game eve is and everyone should just HTFU yet they can't adapt to DS3 so they don't play. No wonder the numbers have been so low. Its the eve players that need to HTFU EvE players talk all big while not understanding CCP has held their hand from the day they joined new Eden. Tbh Dust is a joke. In poor taste.



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