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Basement Guy420
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:00:00 -
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rilly sick of spawn campers!!!! don't get to see the light of day befor i'm dead!!!!! i thought this bild would of fixed that problem. but they didn't. WOWwhat a wast of $20. ide hate to say it but COD seams to be the same as this.... this bild SUCKS because of it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anton Niles
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.07.06 03:56:00 -
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There was a long thread in the past about spawn camping. Many/most people on that thread seemed to agree with you, some thought it should be perfectly fine. I'm in the former camp-- spawn camping allows a few to make the game completely un-fun.
My personal favorite solution is that we should be launched from the spawn points in a ballistic trajectory of our choosing with some relatively short range :) |
Ri-tie Aoki
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.07.06 05:27:00 -
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Basement Guy420 wrote:Really sick of spawn campers!!!! don't get to see the light of day before i'm dead!!!!! i thought this build would of fixed that problem. but they didn't. WOWwhat a waste of $20. I'd hate to say it but COD seems to be the same as this.... this build SUCKS because of it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1) I corrected your spelling mistakes. As for the rest of the mistakes, I really did not feel like out right retyping your post. 2) No one said that you had to spend $20 dollars to get into the beta, that is all on you. 3) If there are enemies capping the point that you are spawning on, expect death. |
Deskalkulos Ildigan
CrimeWave Syndicate
115
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Posted - 2012.07.06 07:51:00 -
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Ri-tie Aoki wrote:Basement Guy420 wrote:Really sick of spawn campers!!!! don't get to see the light of day before i'm dead!!!!! i thought this build would of fixed that problem. but they didn't. WOWwhat a waste of $20. I'd hate to say it but COD seems to be the same as this.... this build SUCKS because of it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1) I corrected your spelling mistakes. As for the rest of the mistakes, I really did not feel like out right retyping your post. 2) No one said that you had to spend $20 dollars to get into the beta, that is all on you. 3) If there are enemies capping the point that you are spawning on, expect death.
i think he means, that they were down to their original spawn point with no other chance to spawn. Happened to me once, but then i was luckily able to get through and deliver a droplink outside the danger zone. We lost though but man this was a great feeling to break through the barrage :D |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
191
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Posted - 2012.07.06 08:16:00 -
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Spawn on drop uplinks. Fixed. |
Rebel3010
Lost-Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.06 08:38:00 -
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Ri-tie Aoki wrote:Basement Guy420 wrote:Really sick of spawn campers!!!! don't get to see the light of day before i'm dead!!!!! i thought this build would of fixed that problem. but they didn't. WOWwhat a waste of $20. I'd hate to say it but COD seems to be the same as this.... this build SUCKS because of it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1) I corrected your spelling mistakes. As for the rest of the mistakes, I really did not feel like out right retyping your post. thanks we really needed that -_-;2) No one said that you had to spend $20 dollars to get into the beta, that is all on you. now you have to since the FAbeta keys are all but gone3) If there are enemies capping the point that you are spawning on, expect death. youve obviousy havnt been spawn trapped
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zekina zek
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
108
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Posted - 2012.07.06 11:46:00 -
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my favorite part of this game is spawn camping, my favorite part of eve is gate camping. go figure. |
zekina zek
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
108
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Posted - 2012.07.06 11:47:00 -
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and yes i will bring my dropship to your base after we have capped everything and i will base **** you. nothing stopping me from doing this, for 20 seconds at a time. :D |
Sohkar Adelis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2012.07.06 13:31:00 -
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I would prefer something like what Starhawk did;
drop-pods that you can aim at the bastards to kill them.
SPLAT!!!
~WIN~ |
STB-TedNugent EV
159
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Posted - 2012.07.06 13:50:00 -
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You can choose your spawn. Don't spawn where people are camping. |
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EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:02:00 -
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STB-TedNugent EV wrote:You can choose your spawn. Don't spawn where people are camping.
you could also instead of hiding in the spawn crying about it being to hard to escape go put out droplinks and help the team. |
STB-TedNugent EV
159
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:05:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote:STB-TedNugent EV wrote:You can choose your spawn. Don't spawn where people are camping. you could also instead of hiding in the spawn crying about it being to hard to escape go put out droplinks and help the team. Heartless!!!!! valid point |
Sohkar Adelis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:07:00 -
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STB-TedNugent EV wrote:EriktheHeartless wrote:STB-TedNugent EV wrote:You can choose your spawn. Don't spawn where people are camping. you could also instead of hiding in the spawn crying about it being to hard to escape go put out droplinks and help the team. Heartless!!!!! valid point
LMFAO ROFL - guarantee all of that was said by people who camp to boost their K/D. |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:18:00 -
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Sohkar Adelis wrote:STB-TedNugent EV wrote:EriktheHeartless wrote:STB-TedNugent EV wrote:You can choose your spawn. Don't spawn where people are camping. you could also instead of hiding in the spawn crying about it being to hard to escape go put out droplinks and help the team. Heartless!!!!! valid point LMFAO ROFL - guarantee all of that was said by people who camp to boost their K/D.
it's not camping when your standing at the border begging them to come over and play.instead of getting out of the spawn they hide and cry , maybe toss a grenade and hope for the best.IF YOU ARE BEING SPAWN CAMPED then you are on the weaker team either because of you or in spite of you.i have camped and been camped,only difference between others and myself is that i man up and deal with it either by getting out and putting out droplinks or by thinning the herd enough for my team to cut through.But not by complaining about my inability to adjust to the situation at hand. |
Sohkar Adelis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:22:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote:
it's not camping when your standing at the border begging them to come over and play.instead of getting out of the spawn they hide and cry , maybe toss a grenade and hope for the best.IF YOU ARE BEING SPAWN CAMPED then you are on the weaker team either because of you or in spite of you.i have camped and been camped,only difference between others and myself is that i man up and deal with it either by getting out and putting out droplinks or by thinning the herd enough for my team to cut through.But not by complaining about my inability to adjust to the situation at hand.
You misunderstand bud, it's quite easy to adapt.
What we are saying is it having a single spawn point makes recapturing a node 10x more difficult if a tankadin is rockin a heavy machine gun at your back the moment you pop up.
So you adapt and spawn for 20 sec or spawn 20 sec away.
Either make the node recapturing moot.
We don't get angry at the campers for their 'ingenuity', were frustrated with the lack of foresight in CCP. |
STB-TedNugent EV
159
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:29:00 -
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Sohkar Adelis wrote:STB-TedNugent EV wrote:EriktheHeartless wrote:STB-TedNugent EV wrote:You can choose your spawn. Don't spawn where people are camping. you could also instead of hiding in the spawn crying about it being to hard to escape go put out droplinks and help the team. Heartless!!!!! valid point LMFAO ROFL - guarantee all of that was said by people who camp to boost their K/D.
hope thats come with a money back i only camp while my letter is securing... camping my letter not the spawn once the letter is took i move on to the next i play to win not for K/D... my K/d is only like 1.3 smh |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:25:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:Spawn on drop uplinks. Fixed.
No. not really, as the enemy can see them with a big fat icon...and then waif for a little while till a few spawns, and then drop a rocket on it. Anyone in the countdown phase have to restart the spawn selection, further denying the enemy their players for another 10 seconds. |
Sohkar Adelis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:26:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:Spawn on drop uplinks. Fixed. No. not really, as the enemy can see them with a big fat icon...and then waif for a little while till a few spawns, and then drop a rocket on it. Anyone in the countdown phase have to restart the spawn selection, further denying the enemy their players for another 10 seconds.
O.o thats actually quite clever. |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:30:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:Spawn on drop uplinks. Fixed. No. not really, as the enemy can see them with a big fat icon...and then waif for a little while till a few spawns, and then drop a rocket on it. Anyone in the countdown phase have to restart the spawn selection, further denying the enemy their players for another 10 seconds.
i suppose you are right because i only put droplinks in open areas of the map so they can be seen from near and far.i would never think to hide them in a rarley used area of the map or way behind enemy lines where they are no longer spawning.or egad behind something..heaven forbid. |
Argos Blackyear
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.07.06 18:02:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote:
i suppose you are right because i only put droplinks in open areas of the map so they can be seen from near and far.i would never think to hide them in a rarley used area of the map or way behind enemy lines where they are no longer spawning.or egad behind something..heaven forbid.
It doesn't matter where you put them. When a dropship is camping A-point from the top of the tower while a tank and 2 enemy infantry camp the A-point spawn with remote explosives, you're gonna have a REALLY hard time recapturing, even if you manage to get the team to work together from another spawn point. What's worse is that with a full team, the enemy can set this up at each capture point and still have a couple of floaters around the map taking out stragglers and your precious droplinks. Fact of the matter is, one static spawn point in each zone breaks the game.
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SGT Garrisson
On The Brink
60
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Posted - 2012.07.06 18:15:00 -
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ive thought about this and know wot u mean
when u spawn at lets say terminal B theres litrally only 1 spawn point and its frequantly camped i dont really care for camping like most others ive done it and been a victim of it
my idea to stop it at control points or at least make it harder why not add 2 or 3 spawn points at that terminal and randomize the position the player spawns therfore making the enemy need to use 2-3 guys to camp it while it is turning from red to blue
thats my opinion anway |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.07.06 18:16:00 -
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Argos Blackyear wrote:EriktheHeartless wrote:
i suppose you are right because i only put droplinks in open areas of the map so they can be seen from near and far.i would never think to hide them in a rarley used area of the map or way behind enemy lines where they are no longer spawning.or egad behind something..heaven forbid.
It doesn't matter where you put them. When a dropship is camping A-point from the top of the tower while a tank and 2 enemy infantry camp the A-point spawn with remote explosives, you're gonna have a REALLY hard time recapturing, even if you manage to get the team to work together from another spawn point. What's worse is that with a full team, the enemy can set this up at each capture point and still have a couple of floaters around the map taking out stragglers and your precious droplinks. Fact of the matter is, one static spawn point in each zone breaks the game.
i am sorry you are right bro its to hard to do...i will stop being so naive. i will try and complain about having no skill and begging devs to fix things that arent broken..speaking of devs please fix the loading screen i would like it to have little big planets music with mags opening sequence.(takes a sarcastic chin grabbing pose and awaits dumb answer) |
Argos Blackyear
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.07.06 18:53:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote:
i am sorry you are right bro its to hard to do...i will stop being so naive. i will try and complain about having no skill and begging devs to fix things that arent broken..speaking of devs please fix the loading screen i would like it to have little big planets music with mags opening sequence.(takes a sarcastic chin grabbing pose and awaits dumb answer)
I can't decide what's funnier: the fact that you try to be sarcastic or that your sarcasm contradicts itself. The only dumb responses here are yours, since you think that camping equates to skill and/or in-game creativity. Even gate camping in EVE is more reasonable than in DUST since ships come out of a jump randomly around the gate; they could be 5 meters from you, they could be 10 kilometers, depending on your placement. Distance determines feasibility of the gank, you see, as it does in DUST. But if you keep funneling players through the same spawn point you remove the uncertainty and one idiot with tank can hold it for several minutes.
You seem to think that we all complain that recovery is impossible. No, it's not. But the time gains from camping (and conversely, the losses for the camped team) are too great to be balanced. Why put recapturing in the game if you can't stay alive long enough to do it?
Hell, you KNOW it's camping when the enemy doesn't even have a particular capture point but is mowing down your team from the tower anyways. It blows their kills and subsequent skill gains out of proportion. The unbalance continues.
And for the record, I NEVER begged for anything. On the contrary, I pointed out a flaw in the design of a game in BETA. You know, the phase where we find these bugs and report on them, like we all did here?
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EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:06:00 -
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Argos Blackyear wrote:EriktheHeartless wrote:
i am sorry you are right bro its to hard to do...i will stop being so naive. i will try and complain about having no skill and begging devs to fix things that arent broken..speaking of devs please fix the loading screen i would like it to have little big planets music with mags opening sequence.(takes a sarcastic chin grabbing pose and awaits dumb answer)
I can't decide what's funnier: the fact that you try to be sarcastic or that your sarcasm contradicts itself. The only dumb responses here are yours, since you think that camping equates to skill and/or in-game creativity. Even gate camping in EVE is more reasonable than in DUST since ships come out of a jump randomly around the gate; they could be 5 meters from you, they could be 10 kilometers, depending on your placement. Distance determines feasibility of the gank, you see, as it does in DUST. But if you keep funneling players through the same spawn point you remove the uncertainty and one idiot with tank can hold it for several minutes. You seem to think that we all complain that recovery is impossible. No, it's not. But the time gains from camping (and conversely, the losses for the camped team) are too great to be balanced. Why put recapturing in the game if you can't stay alive long enough to do it? Hell, you KNOW it's camping when the enemy doesn't even have a particular capture point but is mowing down your team from the tower anyways. It blows their kills and subsequent skill gains out of proportion. The unbalance continues. And for the record, I NEVER begged for anything. On the contrary, I pointed out a flaw in the design of a game in BETA. You know, the phase where we find these bugs and report on them, like we all did here? Quick fix man...don't lose all your spawns. i am not going to debate the merit for or against spawn camping.i dont have a problem with it.do i like it when it happens to me.NO but i deal with it.i dont say it is unbalanced because i have gotten myself backed into a corner i work with what i have.maybe our skill sets are different but when i get camped i almost always find a quick way out.gun game works wonders on a console.lets just agree to dissagree and also that i am right. |
Argos Blackyear
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:24:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote: Quick fix man...don't lose all your spawns. i am not going to debate the merit for or against spawn camping.i dont have a problem with it.do i like it when it happens to me.NO but i deal with it.i dont say it is unbalanced because i have gotten myself backed into a corner i work with what i have.maybe our skill sets are different but when i get camped i almost always find a quick way out.gun game works wonders on a console.lets just agree to dissagree and also that i am right.
That's not a fix, the fix would be to add more spawn points, plain and simple. Skill has nothing to do with it, as I mentioned, because you don't get the chance to even move before a remote explosive blows you to kingdom come. Then it's another 10-20 seconds in the queue. If I were dying because of my skill, I wouldn't be complaining. But again, skill is NOT involved.
And also like I said, you can have all the spawn points and still get camped by a dropship on the tower. He'll rack up kills and get rewarded with ridiculous amounts of SP, while the victims of the camp get nothing. THAT'S where the imbalance comes in.
Predicted response: "Then get another dropship and go up to kill him." Great, will do, after another 10-20 seconds in spawn and then another 10-20 seconds waiting for the dropship. More time that could be spent playing and enjoying the game rather than having to quick-fix something that shouldn't exist in it at all. Predicted response: "The point isn't to have fun, it's to win. If you can't, your skill isn't up to par." Definition of GAME from Websters: "activity engaged in for diversion or amusement." I play for entertainment, enjoyment, fun. Everyone does, let's be honest. I'm not saying to make everyone winners so the game is more fun, get over yourself. I'm saying fix an exploit with the game so we can all get on with the beta and enjoy our time with it.
Last I checked, when a player can use a particular tactic to get dozens of kills without much consequence, it's called an exploit. |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:39:00 -
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Predicted response: "Then get another dropship and go up to kill him." Great, will do, after another 10-20 seconds in spawn and then another 10-20 seconds waiting for the dropship. More time that could be spent playing and enjoying the game rather than having to quick-fix something that shouldn't exist in it at all. Predicted response: "The point isn't to have fun, it's to win. If you can't, your skill isn't up to par." Definition of GAME from Websters: "activity engaged in for diversion or amusement." I play for entertainment, enjoyment, fun. Everyone does, let's be honest. I'm not saying to make everyone winners so the game is more fun, get over yourself. I'm saying fix an exploit with the game so we can all get on with the beta and enjoy our time with it.
Last I checked, when a player can use a particular tactic to get dozens of kills without much consequence, it's called an exploit.
let me point something out that you may not be privy to..the point of the beta is to play as you would if it were the finished product.do everything you can to stress the server and in general do all the things the devs never thought you would.then point out what you think may be wrong or offer suggestions for possible fixx's.now as for your exploit explaination i use my particular gun tactic (run around and murder at will) without much consequence...does this mean i am an exploit worthy of being "fixed" or am i unbalanced?and by the way just get a drop ship and go kill that guy....and also just remember 2nd place is just the first loser. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.07.06 23:19:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote:let me point something out that you may not be privy to..the point of the beta is to play as you would if it were the finished product.do everything you can to stress the server and in general do all the things the devs never thought you would.then point out what you think may be wrong or offer suggestions for possible fixx's.now as for your exploit explaination i use my particular gun tactic (run around and murder at will) without much consequence...does this mean i am an exploit worthy of being "fixed" or am i unbalanced?and by the way just get a drop ship and go kill that guy....and also just remember 2nd place is just the first loser.
Allow me to point something out....
Let's say there's a noob who's come in to play for the very first time. First couple of games, he gets spawn camped, and dies a total of about 30-40 times. Entirely feasible, yes? So he thinks that "Great, this game is all about spawn camping. I'm not having fun, therefore I won't play again." This will be an hour that a new player has played, and then he tells his friends and goes on forums, sharing his horrible experience. People will tell him "get good", but if he's spawn camped... What can he do? I mean, really, if you die within half a second, even with uplinks, dropships, etc, etc, you won't have a very good time. What's to say that after release, all the beta people come back (with decent knowledge about the game, and its mechanics) and completely faceroll the noobs? That will leave a very small community indeed, and neither CCP nor Sony want it. It would effectively RUIN PI, alliance warfare, and consequently nullsec for EVE online too.
In short, CCP are taking a massive risk by launching DUST fully integrated into EVE. Good in concept, but if they don't get all the kinks sorted, they will ruin both of their games. A lot of people WILL see the ability to spawn camp as a kink, so CCP are facing a massive risk if they don't get it right.
So before you go on about how life's unfair and therefore this game should be too, take into account the whole picture. We're giving feedback to CCP so they can fix something before release so that their fanbase has the best time possible, rather than lose a lot of potential customers. |
Argos Blackyear
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.07.07 03:13:00 -
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Argos Blackyear wrote: And for the record, I NEVER begged for anything. On the contrary, I pointed out a flaw in the design of a game in BETA. You know, the phase where we find these bugs and report on them, like we all did here?
EriktheHeartless wrote: let me point something out that you may not be privy to..the point of the beta is to play as you would if it were the finished product.do everything you can to stress the server and in general do all the things the devs never thought you would.then point out what you think may be wrong or offer suggestions for possible fixx's.now as for your exploit explaination i use my particular gun tactic (run around and murder at will) without much consequence...does this mean i am an exploit worthy of being "fixed" or am i unbalanced?and by the way just get a drop ship and go kill that guy....and also just remember 2nd place is just the first loser.
As I pointed out earlier, I'm quite aware of what a beta is and what it's for. That's why I posted on this thread, because camping is an exploit that should be fixed in the finished product. |
Argos Blackyear
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.07.07 03:20:00 -
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Laheon wrote:
Allow me to point something out....
Let's say there's a noob who's come in to play for the very first time. First couple of games, he gets spawn camped, and dies a total of about 30-40 times. Entirely feasible, yes? So he thinks that "Great, this game is all about spawn camping. I'm not having fun, therefore I won't play again." This will be an hour that a new player has played, and then he tells his friends and goes on forums, sharing his horrible experience. People will tell him "get good", but if he's spawn camped... What can he do? I mean, really, if you die within half a second, even with uplinks, dropships, etc, etc, you won't have a very good time. What's to say that after release, all the beta people come back (with decent knowledge about the game, and its mechanics) and completely faceroll the noobs? That will leave a very small community indeed, and neither CCP nor Sony want it. It would effectively RUIN PI, alliance warfare, and consequently nullsec for EVE online too.
In short, CCP are taking a massive risk by launching DUST fully integrated into EVE. Good in concept, but if they don't get all the kinks sorted, they will ruin both of their games. A lot of people WILL see the ability to spawn camp as a kink, so CCP are facing a massive risk if they don't get it right.
So before you go on about how life's unfair and therefore this game should be too, take into account the whole picture. We're giving feedback to CCP so they can fix something before release so that their fanbase has the best time possible, rather than lose a lot of potential customers.
This is a good point, I agree. It's already quite difficult to introduce new players to EVE, and this game may make it even harder (ex. significant skill-point differences between veterans and newbies, steep learning/difficulty curves, etc.). |
Bzeer
MG GROUP
41
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Posted - 2012.07.07 08:25:00 -
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... I could keep saying use mobil links and vehicle cru's, but it's getting old. Here's some advice, don't spawn at any place that beings with the letter's A, B, and C, and you'll do fine--unless of course, you've been pushed all the way back to the unmarked defenders spot. (I love getting an enemy team to that point, but it's a hell-of-a-thing to recover from if you're on the receiving in on this map.) I think this map could use some tweaking to make the unmarked positions more defensible, and impossible for all out barrage, allowing for breakouts to occur. The attacking team's default position isn't so well defensible, but, because it's a big open field, it's harder to predict which direction they will take to get back in the game. However, the defenders though are practically funneled into a kill box once they are pushed far enough back. |
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Bzeer
MG GROUP
41
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Posted - 2012.07.07 09:02:00 -
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I wonder how people who complain most about spawn camping, are going to handle their own team-mates accepting bribes to hide in the hills. (A form of point-shaving.) I know if a battle is important enough in eve, spies are readily employed, so I'm fully prepared for all kinds of meta-tatics being used in dust to make corps turn against themselves. There's no profit in the typical fps for doing that; but, DUST isn't going to be a typical fps when it's all finalized. Single matches like we player over and again right now are just tips of the iceberg once there is real isk to be made, and real turf to seize. |
Kelthon Bane
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.07.07 09:41:00 -
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Bzeer wrote:... I could keep saying use mobil links and vehicle cru's, but it's getting old. Here's some advice, don't spawn at any place that beings with the letter's A, B, and C, and you'll do fine--unless of course, you've been pushed all the way back to the unmarked defenders spot. (I love getting an enemy team to that point, but it's a hell-of-a-thing to recover from if you're on the receiving in on this map.) I think this map could use some tweaking to make the unmarked positions more defensible, and impossible for all out barrage, allowing for breakouts to occur. The attacking team's default position isn't so well defensible, but, because it's a big open field, it's harder to predict which direction they will take to get back in the game. However, the defenders though are practically funneled into a kill box once they are pushed far enough back. This is the only form of spawn camping that bugs me really if ur being camped spawn elsewhere if u get pushed back then ur screwed cuz lav hav and dropships are being destroyed before they hit the ground LOL those matches suck especially if u join into one LOL |
D-Rock
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.07.07 10:17:00 -
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I've read quite a few threads on this subject and I have had it happen to me, but generally just say what the hell and get on with trying to break out with my team. Its a ***** but it happens in most of the shooters I've played. I think more people with mics would help co-ordinate a break out, but not that many people make use of them. Also the comms still have a few issues/bugs in my experience.
I don't consider myself that skilled and have a pretty crap K/D ratio still relatively new to the Beta. I do however try to play for the team in most games, hacking spawn points, supply points and of course objectives. As well as trying to kill as many of the enemy as possible.
The game is in Beta, and the map being used is quite small, compared to the one shown in the Youtube video of Dust at the EVE Fanfest. A bigger map would allow more flexibility I think.
Once the game gets EVE integration and when its live surely you will be able to call in support from orbit to blow the crap out of a team camping on your spawn point/s.
I do agree its frustrating not to get off your spawn point but its not impossible with good team work, and different and bigger maps may will help I think.
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