DUST Search - and we thought they were working on project nova...

Varoth Drac wrote:

Alena Asakura wrote:

From what I can see VR has become the new obsession for CCP. I don't think we'll see much come out of CCP that isn't VR capable, or VR driven. EvE Online will continue because of its huge fan base and community. I don't know what we can expect of NOVA given all this. Perhaps it will end up being a VR based FPS? It would be nice to think that they will continue to develop it as a straight PC based FPS, but my feeling is that CCP's VR obsession will either kill it or morph it into a VR FPS.

Assuming that it continues, but in the VR form, I'm inclined to believe that there might be some problems with it - I relate the PS Move experience, that being an attempt to incorporate physical movement into the control mechanism of Dust. VR fundamentally uses head movements if not also hand and body movements, as part of the input interface. I would hope that VR does a better job than the PS Move which I found clunky, imprecise and thoroughly unsuitable for the job.

Obviously, it would be better if CCP stuck with a straight PC based FPS and ignored the "potential" for VR. I just see their obsession with VR as being a bit of a given for all their future releases. I wonder whether they haven't already discussed the idea of a VR interface for EvE Online. Now that would be truly ridiculous. :)

It seems to have been pretty much decided that the FPS is not currently suited to VR. As Project Nova is an FPS I find it extremely unlikely they would try to turn it into a VR game. Not to mention the fact that they didn't mention using VR for it at Fanfest, and people played a demo of it without VR.

Also CCP had already released Gunjack before Fanfest. Why would the release of Gunjack 2 change anything?

Now, a VR interface for EVE you say? That sounds pretty awesome to me. Cool

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Moorian Flav 394	Posted - 2016.10.06 19:31:00 - [1] - Quote https://www.ccpgames.com/news/2016/ccp-games-announces-gunjack-2-end-of-shift-excl/ maybe will hear some actual news on nova after this releases I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
DUST Fiend 18728	Posted - 2016.10.06 19:50:00 - [2] - Quote We're pretty firmly on the backburner, at least from the looks of things. Nova is being worked on, but it seems like it's very far from a priority for CCP at this point. Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 315	Posted - 2016.10.06 20:04:00 - [3] - Quote . Here you go , here's your proof . . Working On Nova - CCP Rattati . ( F U!!!! ) * ( Why Dead? ) , (n+Æn+Çn+¢´)GÇón++pâçGòÉS+ÇX - - - - n++(º Gûí º l\|l)/
Nirwanda Vaughns 1970	Posted - 2016.10.06 20:07:00 - [4] - Quote Read the announcement other day and not sure if gonna be able to play it or not. there are that many f**king VR devices recently i can't keep track Find me in the new world or PSN: LaughlynVaughns Facebook: Nirwanda Vaughns or It's An Ashton (business page)
DUST Fiend 18728	Posted - 2016.10.06 20:18:00 - [5] - Quote deadpool lifetone wrote: . Here you go , here's your proof . . Working On Nova - CCP Rattati . It would certainly be nice to know the scope of that work, and any relevant dates for actual footage / gameplay. Seems like CCP is content keeping this one in the dark though, so we'll just have to wait to see what, if anything, actually lands. Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13638	Posted - 2016.10.06 21:13:00 - [6] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: deadpool lifetone wrote: . Here you go , here's your proof . . Working On Nova - CCP Rattati . It would certainly be nice to know the scope of that work, and any relevant dates for actual footage / gameplay. Seems like CCP is content keeping this one in the dark though, so we'll just have to wait to see what, if anything, actually lands. Let's be honest, last time they showed us anything not only was their management of expectations less than optimal but the community as a whole (at least back when we had a community for Dust) was also responsible for massively boosting expectations like a Rorqual in Eve boosting an entire fleet of hungry mining barges looking for that sweet, sweet ore that doesn't exist. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
DUST Fiend 18728	Posted - 2016.10.06 21:18:00 - [7] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: deadpool lifetone wrote: . Here you go , here's your proof . . Working On Nova - CCP Rattati . It would certainly be nice to know the scope of that work, and any relevant dates for actual footage / gameplay. Seems like CCP is content keeping this one in the dark though, so we'll just have to wait to see what, if anything, actually lands. Let's be honest, last time they showed us anything not only was their management of expectations less than optimal but the community as a whole (at least back when we had a community for Dust) was also responsible for massively boosting expectations like a Rorqual in Eve boosting an entire fleet of hungry mining barges looking for that sweet, sweet ore that doesn't exist. They probably don't want my kind spewing negativity either, so probably safer to just keep it under wraps. I'll just store up that negative energy in case the project is ultimately canceled and then I can just explode and the world will breathe a sigh of relief as I disperse into fading embers. Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 8011	Posted - 2016.10.06 21:48:00 - [8] - Quote Gunjack was in development when Dust was still a thing, don't be surprised when development is continuing on it. Current state of the forums
Heracles Porsche Eternal Beings 731	Posted - 2016.10.06 21:54:00 - [9] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: https://www.ccpgames.com/news/2016/ccp-games-announces-gunjack-2-end-of-shift-excl/ maybe will hear some actual news on nova after this releases thanks for linking this, gives us something to talk about! Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1194	Posted - 2016.10.06 22:29:00 - [10] - Quote From what I can see VR has become the new obsession for CCP. I don't think we'll see much come out of CCP that isn't VR capable, or VR driven. EvE Online will continue because of its huge fan base and community. I don't know what we can expect of NOVA given all this. Perhaps it will end up being a VR based FPS? It would be nice to think that they will continue to develop it as a straight PC based FPS, but my feeling is that CCP's VR obsession will either kill it or morph it into a VR FPS. Assuming that it continues, but in the VR form, I'm inclined to believe that there might be some problems with it - I relate the PS Move experience, that being an attempt to incorporate physical movement into the control mechanism of Dust. VR fundamentally uses head movements if not also hand and body movements, as part of the input interface. I would hope that VR does a better job than the PS Move which I found clunky, imprecise and thoroughly unsuitable for the job. Obviously, it would be better if CCP stuck with a straight PC based FPS and ignored the "potential" for VR. I just see their obsession with VR as being a bit of a given for all their future releases. I wonder whether they haven't already discussed the idea of a VR interface for EvE Online. Now that would be truly ridiculous. :)

Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2305	Posted - 2016.10.06 22:33:00 - [11] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: They probably don't want my kind spewing negativity either, so probably safer to just keep it under wraps. I'll just store up that negative energy in case the project is ultimately canceled and then I can just explode and the world will breathe a sigh of relief as I disperse into fading embers. Very poetic, i'm impressed. Looks like things are on track for my timeline predictions. No real info in 2016. Fanfest 2017, announcement that Nova is a game being made with a new title, or no info if game is cancelled. No real info until Fanfest 2018 where alpha / beta is announced. Release mid to late 2018. I chuckle at the people expecting to play the game this year. I do worry a bit about feedback from the Dust community. Obviously it's great that lots of people still care, including me, but if there's one thing I think scuppers game development, it's a lack of clarity of vision. I'd much rather CCP come up with solid ideas and turn them into a solid game, based on what works during development, than them trying to satisfy the whims and expectations of a load of people who haven't played it, with the exception of a few people playing an old demo, and who all have different desires about what they want Nova to be like. CCP, by all means listen to what we loved about Dust, and how we feel about EVE, but don't let it distract you from making a great game. People want everything. Don't over-commit. You saw what happened last time.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2305	Posted - 2016.10.06 22:39:00 - [12] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: From what I can see VR has become the new obsession for CCP. I don't think we'll see much come out of CCP that isn't VR capable, or VR driven. EvE Online will continue because of its huge fan base and community. I don't know what we can expect of NOVA given all this. Perhaps it will end up being a VR based FPS? It would be nice to think that they will continue to develop it as a straight PC based FPS, but my feeling is that CCP's VR obsession will either kill it or morph it into a VR FPS. Assuming that it continues, but in the VR form, I'm inclined to believe that there might be some problems with it - I relate the PS Move experience, that being an attempt to incorporate physical movement into the control mechanism of Dust. VR fundamentally uses head movements if not also hand and body movements, as part of the input interface. I would hope that VR does a better job than the PS Move which I found clunky, imprecise and thoroughly unsuitable for the job. Obviously, it would be better if CCP stuck with a straight PC based FPS and ignored the "potential" for VR. I just see their obsession with VR as being a bit of a given for all their future releases. I wonder whether they haven't already discussed the idea of a VR interface for EvE Online. Now that would be truly ridiculous. :) It seems to have been pretty much decided that the FPS is not currently suited to VR. As Project Nova is an FPS I find it extremely unlikely they would try to turn it into a VR game. Not to mention the fact that they didn't mention using VR for it at Fanfest, and people played a demo of it without VR. Also CCP had already released Gunjack before Fanfest. Why would the release of Gunjack 2 change anything? Now, a VR interface for EVE you say? That sounds pretty awesome to me.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1194	Posted - 2016.10.06 22:59:00 - [13] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: From what I can see VR has become the new obsession for CCP. I don't think we'll see much come out of CCP that isn't VR capable, or VR driven. EvE Online will continue because of its huge fan base and community. I don't know what we can expect of NOVA given all this. Perhaps it will end up being a VR based FPS? It would be nice to think that they will continue to develop it as a straight PC based FPS, but my feeling is that CCP's VR obsession will either kill it or morph it into a VR FPS. Assuming that it continues, but in the VR form, I'm inclined to believe that there might be some problems with it - I relate the PS Move experience, that being an attempt to incorporate physical movement into the control mechanism of Dust. VR fundamentally uses head movements if not also hand and body movements, as part of the input interface. I would hope that VR does a better job than the PS Move which I found clunky, imprecise and thoroughly unsuitable for the job. Obviously, it would be better if CCP stuck with a straight PC based FPS and ignored the "potential" for VR. I just see their obsession with VR as being a bit of a given for all their future releases. I wonder whether they haven't already discussed the idea of a VR interface for EvE Online. Now that would be truly ridiculous. :) It seems to have been pretty much decided that the FPS is not currently suited to VR. As Project Nova is an FPS I find it extremely unlikely they would try to turn it into a VR game. Not to mention the fact that they didn't mention using VR for it at Fanfest, and people played a demo of it without VR. Also CCP had already released Gunjack before Fanfest. Why would the release of Gunjack 2 change anything? Now, a VR interface for EVE you say? That sounds pretty awesome to me. I'm just spitballing. I obviously don't know that either NOVA or EvE would ever have VR. My conjecture about VR for NOVA is based on CCP's obsession with VR, not any idea that VR would ba any good for a FPS. In fact, I don't think VR would be any good for an FPS, which sort of leaves my other option, that because VR can't be applied to a FPS, CCP will simply drop NOVA. I know I'm being cynical. I've become somewhat cynical because CCP has abandoned what could have continued as an excellent FPS with enough development, for the glitzy allure of VR. Look at the titles they are releasing, including their upgrades. All the new ones are VR. The only one that isn't is EvE, and that's probably simply because they have such a large and committed fan base for that game. It was their first and always has been their primary game. If they can apply VR to it, they will, I'm sure, but if they can't, that won't bring them to cull it. Not so NOVA which to my mind is just a dream they trotted out to keep us happy.
DUST Fiend 18729	Posted - 2016.10.07 01:29:00 - [14] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: I know I'm being cynical. I've become somewhat cynical because CCP has abandoned what could have continued as an excellent FPS with enough development, for the glitzy allure of VR. . If Hilmar would actually dedicate a good amount of resources and energy to the project it could easily be the next Halo, CoD or Battlefield. That's probably what's so infuriating for me, knowing the incredible potential they're sitting on and for all we know, slowly letting fade away. Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus

CCP LogicLoop C C P C C P Alliance 1925	Posted - 2016.10.07 02:59:00 - [15] - Quote It is not uncommon for companies to have more than one team working on different projects. *Anything is possible given enough time.* CCP LogicLoop

Mobius Wyvern Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance 8434	Posted - 2016.10.07 03:06:00 - [16] - Quote CCP LogicLoop wrote: It is not uncommon for companies to have more than one team working on different projects. Shhh, don't tell them that. You'll spoil their tantrum. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector

CCP LogicLoop C C P C C P Alliance 1925	Posted - 2016.10.07 03:15:00 - [17] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: CCP LogicLoop wrote: It is not uncommon for companies to have more than one team working on different projects. Shhh, don't tell them that. You'll spoil their tantrum. Oops. My bad. Forget what I said then. *Anything is possible given enough time.* CCP LogicLoop

DUST Fiend 18730	Posted - 2016.10.07 03:47:00 - [18] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: CCP LogicLoop wrote: It is not uncommon for companies to have more than one team working on different projects. Shhh, don't tell them that. You'll spoil their tantrum. But is it common to strip the team down to the bare bones minimum, stop content patches for a year, then cancel the game with no solid news as to the progress of the new project? (after teasing another successor for a year, before letting us know it was canceled shortly after it was showcased?) You'll never stop my tantrum, mostly because I both care deeply and could not possibly give a **, all at the same time. I'm basically smashing my head into a pile of marshmallows until they get so compacted that I finally deal enough blunt force trauma to my brain that I can't physically remember what the ** I was mad about in the first place. About three years in and I think it's starting to work. Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 16059	Posted - 2016.10.07 04:06:00 - [19] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: CCP LogicLoop wrote: It is not uncommon for companies to have more than one team working on different projects. Shhh, don't tell them that. You'll spoil their tantrum. But is it common to strip the team down to the bare bones minimum, stop content patches for a year, then cancel the game with no solid news as to the progress of the new project? (after teasing another successor for a year, before letting us know it was canceled shortly after it was showcased?) You'll never stop my tantrum, mostly because I both care deeply and could not possibly give a **, all at the same time. I'm basically smashing my head into a pile of marshmallows until they get so compacted that I finally deal enough blunt force trauma to my brain that I can't physically remember what the ** I was mad about in the first place. About three years in and I think it's starting to work. To clarify, I'm not salty because CCP is working on multiple things. I'm salty because they're working on multiple things after gutting my beloved DUST before shooting it in the head, then teasing me with a resurrection spell that CCP might not even know The irony here is the LogicLoop was a rehire, which means growing the team for Nova. But that would contradict the lies you tell yourself, like you can both totally care and completely not care as if they were not mutually exclusive positions. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4626	Posted - 2016.10.07 04:47:00 - [20] - Quote It's possible to flip between not caring and caring deeply simultaneously. It's a very weird type of anti-logic but after you've been at it for a while it becomes a normal logic. So a point for Dust fiend. PSN SilentChaozz DUST ends, now i can move on. Finally.

IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS 587	Posted - 2016.10.07 04:57:00 - [21] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: https://www.ccpgames.com/news/2016/ccp-games-announces-gunjack-2-end-of-shift-excl/ maybe will hear some actual news on nova after this releases i hear ccp logic loop has been active recently Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 8586	Posted - 2016.10.07 06:42:00 - [22] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: Moorian Flav wrote: https://www.ccpgames.com/news/2016/ccp-games-announces-gunjack-2-end-of-shift-excl/ maybe will hear some actual news on nova after this releases i hear ccp logic loop has been active recently Active as in....literally posting in this thread? lol EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2729	Posted - 2016.10.07 07:29:00 - [23] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Read the announcement other day and not sure if gonna be able to play it or not. there are that many f**king VR devices recently i can't keep track Where do you live? xDDD The only VR devices we have here in Croatia are for the Samsung smartphones... No Oculus Rift, no HTC Vive... Nothing for gaming. Life can suck, but... If there's catgirls... GÄ¥GùÑGû¦GÇ+GÇ+GùÇGùñGÄá it's good. NEKOPARA VOL.3 IN VR CONFIRMED!!! I'M FLIPPIN'!!!

CCP LogicLoop C C P C C P Alliance 1935	Posted - 2016.10.07 08:47:00 - [24] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: Moorian Flav wrote: https://www.ccpgames.com/news/2016/ccp-games-announces-gunjack-2-end-of-shift-excl/ maybe will hear some actual news on nova after this releases i hear ccp logic loop has been active recently Active as in....literally posting in this thread? lol Nope, wasn't me. *Anything is possible given enough time.* CCP LogicLoop

james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS 624	Posted - 2016.10.07 10:10:00 - [25] - Quote I need Nova. Mafia's 30FPS is triggering me n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR PROJECT NOVAGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 318	Posted - 2016.10.07 12:45:00 - [26] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: deadpool lifetone wrote: . Here you go , here's your proof . . Working On Nova - CCP Rattati . It would certainly be nice to know the scope of that work, and any relevant dates for actual footage / gameplay. Seems like CCP is content keeping this one in the dark though, so we'll just have to wait to see what, if anything, actually lands. . I honestly like working in peace and not being bothered . its a free game , so I don't see any real reason to constantly harass them . I'm most likely going to EvE Vegas with a few people . just to check it out . ( F U!!!! ) * ( Why Dead? ) , (n+Æn+Çn+¢´)GÇón++pâçGòÉS+ÇX - - - - n++(º Gûí º l\|l)/
Mobius Wyvern Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance 8440	Posted - 2016.10.07 12:48:00 - [27] - Quote deadpool lifetone wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: deadpool lifetone wrote: . Here you go , here's your proof . . Working On Nova - CCP Rattati . It would certainly be nice to know the scope of that work, and any relevant dates for actual footage / gameplay. Seems like CCP is content keeping this one in the dark though, so we'll just have to wait to see what, if anything, actually lands. . I honestly like working in peace and not being bothered . its a free game , so I don't see any real reason to constantly harass them . I'm most likely going to EvE Vegas with a few people . just to check it out . I still hope there's a trailer, but the schedule for this event says "EVE Online Keynote". Last time we heard about Nova was during the "EVE Universe Keynote". It seems somewhat unlikely that they'll shoehorn Nova into an EVE focused presentation. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 318	Posted - 2016.10.07 12:53:00 - [28] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I know I'm being cynical. I've become somewhat cynical because CCP has abandoned what could have continued as an excellent FPS with enough development, for the glitzy allure of VR. . If Hilmar would actually dedicate a good amount of resources and energy to the project it could easily be the next Halo, CoD or Battlefield. That's probably what's so infuriating for me, knowing the incredible potential they're sitting on and for all we know, slowly letting fade away. . Halo had its moment's , COD was trash for me , BF was hmm ok . the problem with having franchises in game's , is expectations of something bigger each time . I thought D514 was already nearly completed with everything you needed in a game ( minus the mechanics obviously ) . but it had everything I would consider a legit full game . that skill tree and customizing suits , tanks , ads , etc was for me the "Truth" lol and more then enough weapons . . ( F U!!!! ) * ( Why Dead? ) , (n+Æn+Çn+¢´)GÇón++pâçGòÉS+ÇX - - - - n++(º Gûí º l\|l)/
DUST Fiend 18735	Posted - 2016.10.07 14:16:00 - [29] - Quote deadpool lifetone wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I know I'm being cynical. I've become somewhat cynical because CCP has abandoned what could have continued as an excellent FPS with enough development, for the glitzy allure of VR. . If Hilmar would actually dedicate a good amount of resources and energy to the project it could easily be the next Halo, CoD or Battlefield. That's probably what's so infuriating for me, knowing the incredible potential they're sitting on and for all we know, slowly letting fade away. . Halo had its moment's , COD was trash for me , BF was hmm ok . the problem with having franchises in game's , is expectations of something bigger each time . I thought D514 was already nearly completed with everything you needed in a game ( minus the mechanics obviously ) . but it had everything I would consider a legit full game . that skill tree and customizing suits , tanks , ads , etc was for me the "Truth" lol and more then enough weapons . . I'm not saying it should be anything like those games, just that it could be a juggernaut like they are. Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
Mobius Wyvern Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance 8440	Posted - 2016.10.07 15:01:00 - [30] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: deadpool lifetone wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I know I'm being cynical. I've become somewhat cynical because CCP has abandoned what could have continued as an excellent FPS with enough development, for the glitzy allure of VR. . If Hilmar would actually dedicate a good amount of resources and energy to the project it could easily be the next Halo, CoD or Battlefield. That's probably what's so infuriating for me, knowing the incredible potential they're sitting on and for all we know, slowly letting fade away. . Halo had its moment's , COD was trash for me , BF was hmm ok . the problem with having franchises in game's , is expectations of something bigger each time . I thought D514 was already nearly completed with everything you needed in a game ( minus the mechanics obviously ) . but it had everything I would consider a legit full game . that skill tree and customizing suits , tanks , ads , etc was for me the "Truth" lol and more then enough weapons . . I'm not saying it should be anything like those games, just that it could be a juggernaut like they are. I hope so too. If CCP can get enough income to return us to planets and deliver the large scale battles they talked about trying to create in the future of Dust 514, the fact that you can get that content of a $60 game in a F2P one will bring them plenty of new players and keep them invested. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector



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