It is possible for the defenders to win. In previous testing there had been a similar feeling of one side being completely unable to win however that changed fairly quickly and matches were anyone's game, with people figuring out ways to have one side win (scout suit rushes) and people setting up counters, then counters to those counters..etc.

Well, will you be looking into that character deletion glitch?

Misile tank on the roof of the building adn you win))))

CCP it's cheat. i mean tank on the roof is cheat

I've found it easier to defend than attack personally.

I'm finding the hit detection a bit off still BUT that could be my low SP now and lack of skills that are making me shoot around the target rather than at the target.

From the few matches i was able to play this morning, It became quite clear that the attackers simply cannot lose.


Right now, this map (the us one) Is like playing on bio mass, or communication when the attackers are able to instantly destroy the two outposts. There simply is not enough fire power on the map that can stop the MCC. You can hold the attackers off, and keep them trapped in their spawn. But you still wont be able to destroy the MCC.

The only way i can see the defenders gaining a remote chance of winning would be by having half of their team drop down tanks ,and focus on the MCC for the entire match. Which is another problem.

The map is far too small. it also lacks the cover needed for infantry to escape from tanks. Once a tank sees you, you're screwed, you can't get away because there are no small areas for infantry to hide in.

Hit detection is still a problem.

Hit registration is still too slow.

Grenades are still silent killers.

Spawns are still glitched

I also found a major glitch. if you create a character, go into a game, reset your game so go back at the start screen, then delete your character, the game will back up to the start menu. But this time, the start button wont show up, so you're stuck there until you restart your game again. once you play the game again, it'll throw you into that loading screen, but for some reason the spawn option shows up as if you're in a game! If you press X, the game just tells you that you don't have access to the beta. Which means I you have to restart you game once more. After I did that, the game was fine. But my character wasn't deleted.


it seems that once you create a character, you can't get rid of him.

I agree with you on the hit registration and markers being delayed, also on the grenades being silent.. a couple of times ive actually waited to hear the sound of it going off, or even landing near me, before i know it im dead.

The spawns arnt fantastic but ive had no real problem with them, only once or twice but that was bad judgement on my part of where i chose to spawn, just study the map better before you decide to pick a spawn and you should drop clear of enemies.

In regards to the lack of cover, that's true but remember, this map is only one of probably hundreds at launch.. we are only in beta stages here.

The MCC can be destroyed, i've often been a defender and won today, the key is teamwork. As corny as it sounds if your team divides between all 3 posts and holds strong, you can maintain control but the MCC practically almost reaches the dock as it gets destroyed. Although you are correct as it does take pretty much all of your teams efforts to divide and conquer, and there is the problem of run & guns who don't care for objectives they just want kills..

The main artillery should be given more fire-power so that the combat is more urgent and dynamic, that gives defenders a much better chance.

It is possible for the defenders to win. In previous testing there had been a similar feeling of one side being completely unable to win however that changed fairly quickly and matches were anyone's game, with people figuring out ways to have one side win (scout suit rushes) and people setting up counters, then counters to those counters..etc.

Another one that helps is to have the large missile turrets manned and firing on the MCC instead of people.

the map sucks dev if we beta testers are saying it suck in mass like we are then why you do fall back on saying its how were playing the game ? dont you think if your on def your job is not to atk but to def and if its to ez for the atker to take the points on the map and out flank the def team dont that make a sh!t map ???? like the one that we were all just playing ?

It is possible for the defenders to win. In previous testing there had been a similar feeling of one side being completely unable to win however that changed fairly quickly and matches were anyone's game, with people figuring out ways to have one side win (scout suit rushes) and people setting up counters, then counters to those counters..etc.

I was able to play quite a few games this morning.....If your team works together and doesn't run around running and gunning like most FPS games you win....I have won games on both sides.

I continue to win frequently on both sides of the line as long as these 3 conditions are met. 1 my team is organized and communicates about the situation, without spending too much time being assholes to each other, or without b.s.ing about rl stuff too much. 2 my team is aggressive as the attacker or as the defender. 3. Me and the team I'm on are better than the opposing team at adapting to changing conditions on the battlefield, and committed to taking and/or holding primary objectives. .

Ps I will agree that this map is primarily vehicle friendly and infantry hostile. It could use some trenches, and or tunnels around a and b objectives. However there is plenty of cover around c. It is a lot less exposed than the attackers position anyway.

It is possible for the defenders to win. In previous testing there had been a similar feeling of one side being completely unable to win however that changed fairly quickly and matches were anyone's game, with people figuring out ways to have one side win (scout suit rushes) and people setting up counters, then counters to those counters..etc.

I herd a person say that "IF they take C the game is over."

I figured to throw that out there. has anyone find out if that worked 100% of the time. also are we sopused to be able to land a dropship on top of the tall builds? I feel like I'm shooting fish in a barrel when this happens and no one ever flew up to me and to kill me.

HOWEVER - it snowballs. If the attacking team is able to push the defenders back to the original spawn, it's next to impossible for the defenders to get back out and recapture objectives.