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Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7826	Posted - 2016.04.21 12:55:00 - [1] - Quote IT ******* HAPPENED. www.twitch.tv/ccp Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
DiablosMajora 390	Posted - 2016.04.21 12:56:00 - [2] - Quote FIRST ALSO MULTIPLAYER BOOTH SET UP Prepare your angus
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 892	Posted - 2016.04.21 12:57:00 - [3] - Quote I am not super confident tho. They apparently have a playable version at fanfest but it took Valkyrie a year to go from that stage to alpha. Also Hilmar was not very confident when he said we want to make it free to play as if no monetization is in place yet.
WARxion ForDUST Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 402	Posted - 2016.04.21 12:58:00 - [4] - Quote FREE TO PLAY! Yes, I'm that desperate...
Jadek Menaheim Incorruptibles 8496	Posted - 2016.04.21 12:58:00 - [5] - Quote https://twitter.com/JadekMenaheim/status/723133682911830016 Screenshots Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
demonkiller 12 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 977	Posted - 2016.04.21 12:59:00 - [6] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I am not super confident tho. They apparently have a playable version at fanfest but it took Valkyrie a year to go from that stage to alpha. Also Hilmar was not very confident when he said we want to make it free to play as if no monetization is in place yet. valkyrie was a side project from a few devs at ccp whipped up in a short amount of time, this had the shangai studio on it for what... 6 months so far? at least? Want to try EVE for free? https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=7bd8b611-1ae8-489d-831c-adc7ec16f6be&action=buddy
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 893	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:00:00 - [7] - Quote Kind of sad they did not show some quick game footage for the stream.
4lbert Wesker Intara Direct Action Caldari State 651	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:00:00 - [8] - Quote No gameplay? Not even ******* trailer? I waited over 2 hours for 2 screenshots! WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
demonkiller 12 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 977	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:00:00 - [9] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: FREE TO PLAY! incoming "BUT I NEED TO BUY A PC TO PLAY IT" Want to try EVE for free? https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=7bd8b611-1ae8-489d-831c-adc7ec16f6be&action=buddy
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3721	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:00:00 - [10] - Quote So 1 picture and basically just rehashed assets from DUST, I can see where this is going. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3

Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1222	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:01:00 - [11] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I am not super confident tho. They apparently have a playable version at fanfest but it took Valkyrie a year to go from that stage to alpha. Also Hilmar was not very confident when he said we want to make it free to play as if no monetization is in place yet. It'll probably have a similar model to Dust. You also forget, the developers have probably been working on this for quite a while. From around September at the least I'd say. Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 893	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:01:00 - [12] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I am not super confident tho. They apparently have a playable version at fanfest but it took Valkyrie a year to go from that stage to alpha. Also Hilmar was not very confident when he said we want to make it free to play as if no monetization is in place yet. valkyrie was a side project from a few devs at ccp whipped up in a short amount of time, this had the shangai studio on it for what... 6 months so far? at least? The fact that there was no confidence in the monetization statement is what scares me the most. Hopefully now CPM and Devs can give us some better details here.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2938	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:02:00 - [13] - Quote Really a let down. Didn't they say they'll have more at Fanfest? They just confirmed what many suspected anyways (it being F2P like Dust) and gave us the Project name... multiplayer booth for people at fanfest is nice and all... but why not let Dust veterans instantly in on the fun, if they have a Alpha ready and playable and are looking for feedback anyways. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 893	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:04:00 - [14] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Really a let down. Didn't they say they'll have more at Fanfest? They just confirmed what many suspected anyways (it being F2P like Dust) and gave us the Project name... multiplayer booth for people at fanfest is nice and all... but why not let Dust veterans instantly in on the fun, if they have a Alpha ready and playable and are looking for feedback anyways. I feel like it not being available as an alpha by the time Dust shuts down would be a huge failure on their part.
Roy Xkillerz Red Star. 55	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:04:00 - [15] - Quote Wow I am waiting for this and only get 2 screenshots? Now I must wait for hidden cam videos.. please release a trailer soon or teaser thanks.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 893	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:06:00 - [16] - Quote Its a LOBBY SHOOTER Rattati confirms scaling back on MMO
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19772	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:06:00 - [17] - Quote Cough Cough Easy PC building guide
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2938	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:07:00 - [18] - Quote Oh... They scale down on MMO and are focusing on Shooter stuff... I expected them to focus more on the MMO stuff. At least that's what I was hoping for. Arena Shooters are a dime a dozen. Dust was interesting because they planned something unique. :/ Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 893	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:07:00 - [19] - Quote Oh hell Frame is already saying "if it is received well" more vapor incoming
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7826	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:07:00 - [20] - Quote It's over. They just confirmed on stream that they are dialing back/removing the MMO elements. It's over, guys. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector

LOOKMOM NOHANDS 896	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:09:00 - [21] - Quote 6 v 6 for the demo :(
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2938	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:10:00 - [22] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: It's over. They just confirmed on stream that they are dialing back/removing the MMO elements. It's over, guys. And instead we get maps in Space for Eve focus... CCP, what you doing?! You were supposed to focus on the MMO part, not kill it! Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 896	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:12:00 - [23] - Quote "Less confusing skill tree" "Single starting race" Oh good they are making call of duty
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2938	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:13:00 - [24] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: "Less confusing skill tree" "Single starting race" Oh good they are making call of duty And just a few days ago people here were talking about CCP should know that they can't out Call of Duty CoD... and now they try. People were interested in Dust because it wasn't CoD. And now they tune back the MMO stuff, what actually made the project interesting, and make it like Valkyrie: Eve themed Shooter, nothing more... Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
demonkiller 12 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 977	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:13:00 - [25] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I am not super confident tho. They apparently have a playable version at fanfest but it took Valkyrie a year to go from that stage to alpha. Also Hilmar was not very confident when he said we want to make it free to play as if no monetization is in place yet. valkyrie was a side project from a few devs at ccp whipped up in a short amount of time, this had the shangai studio on it for what... 6 months so far? at least? The fact that there was no confidence in the monetization statement is what scares me the most. Hopefully now CPM and Devs can give us some better details here. the big push here that dust needed and this will hopefully get, all these EVE players that wanted to try Dust but didnt want to get a PS3... if they receive this well it means a lot Want to try EVE for free? https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=7bd8b611-1ae8-489d-831c-adc7ec16f6be&action=buddy
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3734	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:13:00 - [26] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: "Less confusing skill tree" "Single starting race" Oh good they are making call of duty Call of Eve take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3734	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:14:00 - [27] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: It's over. They just confirmed on stream that they are dialing back/removing the MMO elements. It's over, guys. Qft take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Roy Xkillerz Red Star. 55	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:15:00 - [28] - Quote Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean.
demonkiller 12 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 977	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:15:00 - [29] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Really a let down. Didn't they say they'll have more at Fanfest? They just confirmed what many suspected anyways (it being F2P like Dust) and gave us the Project name... multiplayer booth for people at fanfest is nice and all... but why not let Dust veterans instantly in on the fun, if they have a Alpha ready and playable and are looking for feedback anyways. I think there was some mention of that, while sitting down the specifically mentioned being a part of dust 514 going towards something, im guessing all dust players will get first access, maybe even before backers Want to try EVE for free? https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=7bd8b611-1ae8-489d-831c-adc7ec16f6be&action=buddy
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 813	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:16:00 - [30] - Quote So is there any actual footage out yet? Did someone record the twitch stream? EDIT: I'm dumb, here they are. Music Video: Farewell DUST Turns out DUST was the DUST killer

Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7826	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:17:00 - [31] - Quote The thing is having a future that let's them do that. Without the draw of the MMO elements and a living link to EVE Online, how can CCP hope to compete? I know I sounded like I"m already doomsaying, but the truth is that like with Legion, this is "PROJECT Nova". Not a confirmed game. That means we can influence it with feedback just like the Valkyrie community has been doing with that game. We just need to get started ASAP so we can try and make sure this game succeeds. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
demonkiller 12 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 977	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:18:00 - [32] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: It's over. They just confirmed on stream that they are dialing back/removing the MMO elements. It's over, guys. And instead we get maps in Space for Eve focus... CCP, what you doing?! You were supposed to focus on the MMO part, not kill it! but the focus of Dust from its very inception was to be a part of the even universe? and people wanted most to be able to board ships, they still do Want to try EVE for free? https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=7bd8b611-1ae8-489d-831c-adc7ec16f6be&action=buddy
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 896	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:18:00 - [33] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: So is there any actual footage out yet? Did someone record the twitch stream? No footage released. Rerun of the info given will be live on twitch whenever they shut down the stream to archive (so most likely later this afternoon)
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 898	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:20:00 - [34] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: It's over. They just confirmed on stream that they are dialing back/removing the MMO elements. It's over, guys. And instead we get maps in Space for Eve focus... CCP, what you doing?! You were supposed to focus on the MMO part, not kill it! but the focus of Dust from its very inception was to be a part of the even universe? and people wanted most to be able to board ships, they still do That seems to be all gone. Maybe the lobby shooter will at least include an on ship map. I guess star citizen will be the only one that delivers anything close to what we all wanted.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 827	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:20:00 - [35] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Its a LOBBY SHOOTER Rattati confirms scaling back on MMO Well that's it for me. I'm not interested in a lobby shooter. I've had enough of that with Dust.
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 813	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:21:00 - [36] - Quote Wait, did he seriously just talk about it for 20 seconds then move on? Am I missing something? Music Video: Farewell DUST Turns out DUST was the DUST killer
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 898	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:23:00 - [37] - Quote Lets not forget how much they enjoyed the benefits of having a pay wall in Dust. Lobby shooter + pay wall + "less" mmo aspects. I want to throw up.
Ghural WarRavens Imperium Eden 433	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:24:00 - [38] - Quote Worst possible outcome. Single race, scaled back MMO elements, no cohesive vision, no grand strategy gameplay, no connection with EVE. The ultimate **** you Dust 514 fans from our good friends at CCP. Hate being right.
SuperMido Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 142	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:25:00 - [39] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Its a LOBBY SHOOTER Rattati confirms scaling back on MMO Well that's it for me. I'm not interested in a lobby shooter. I've had enough of that with Dust. EXACTLY.. I mean come-on, after all this time you give us a lame lobby shooter?? I thought CCP was all about innovation, all about making an experience that only they can deliver, something that is very ambitious, very complex, and very deep. Sounds like they just want to milk some people out there with a free to play micro-transaction game with re-hashed assets from Dust... What a SHAME and LET DOWN after all those years...
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 898	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:25:00 - [40] - Quote Ghural wrote: Worst possible outcome. Single race, scaled back MMO elements, no cohesive vision, no grand strategy gameplay, no connection with EVE. The ultimate **** you Dust 514 fans from our good friends at CCP. Hate being right. The social aspect created by the little bit of MMO we had in Dust was what kept the game alive and kept the cash grabs going. If they are really throwing that out its game over and this will not even be worth trying out.

Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 827	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:26:00 - [41] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: The thing is having a future that let's them do that. Without the draw of the MMO elements and a living link to EVE Online, how can CCP hope to compete? I know I sounded like I"m already doomsaying, but the truth is that like with Legion, this is "PROJECT Nova". Not a confirmed game. That means we can influence it with feedback just like the Valkyrie community has been doing with that game. We just need to get started ASAP so we can try and make sure this game succeeds. Wow, you're naive! No we can't get CCP to change this. They've been going in this direction for a long time now, despite people saying they didn't like it. They're going to keep going now that they are moving to a platform that will let them do it better. They've been oblivious to the fact that this was the wrong direction for so long, it's just not possible they'll wake up now.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2938	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:27:00 - [42] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: It's over. They just confirmed on stream that they are dialing back/removing the MMO elements. It's over, guys. And instead we get maps in Space for Eve focus... CCP, what you doing?! You were supposed to focus on the MMO part, not kill it! but the focus of Dust from its very inception was to be a part of the even universe? and people wanted most to be able to board ships, they still do And now all we get are spaceship themed maps. Which in and itself is maybe not THAT bad, but they apparently are doing this but kill the connection to Eve Online. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 828	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:31:00 - [43] - Quote Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. No, that's just not reasonable. The MMO stuff is too fundamental to the game to be added later. All this is, is a demo of the gameplay, if they want to add MMO, they'll have to rebuild it.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 828	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:35:00 - [44] - Quote Ghural wrote: Worst possible outcome. Single race, scaled back MMO elements, no cohesive vision, no grand strategy gameplay, no connection with EVE. The ultimate **** you Dust 514 fans from our good friends at CCP. Hate being right. I hate you being right too! :)
Ghural WarRavens Imperium Eden 437	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:36:00 - [45] - Quote Remember with project Legion how we would be exploring planets across New Eden, dealing with drones and other players and finding loot? Now we have .. Well what the **** is this? Something that manages to be less ambitious than dust 514.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 900	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:37:00 - [46] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. No, that's just not reasonable. The MMO stuff is too fundamental to the game to be added later. All this is, is a demo of the gameplay, if they want to add MMO, they'll have to rebuild it. Totally agree. You don't just toss in a few mechanics and turn a lobby shooter into a MMO.
Roy Xkillerz Red Star. 56	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:41:00 - [47] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. No, that's just not reasonable. The MMO stuff is too fundamental to the game to be added later. All this is, is a demo of the gameplay, if they want to add MMO, they'll have to rebuild it. Totally agree. You don't just toss in a few mechanics and turn a lobby shooter into a MMO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLGdp9lp2Kw gameplay judge yourself. But its simple if this game doesn't deliver we play star citizen. But let me agreed on 1 thing in all those years this is little weak.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6960	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:41:00 - [48] - Quote This was worse than rogue wedding..at least the shotgun is dope Nova Mercs taking out the drug cartel for the Empire
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2243	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:44:00 - [49] - Quote Interesting. Round based shooter. Focus on shooting mechanics and smooth gameplay. Set in space. On carriers and asteroids etc. More Eve assets. Dialed back MMO aspects. Class based interaction. Tank - heal - dps. Double jump scouts. Tanky but less damaging sentinels. Character customisation but easier to get into than than EVE-style. Shared starting race (gear I assume) followed by racial customisation as progression. To be honest, I'm not too upset by the reduced MMO aspects. This feels more like Dust than Project Legion. With Dust they tried to make both a fun fps and an MMO. They did manage to make Dust a fun shooter, eventually, but could never deliver on proper MMO mechanics. This announcement feels more like taking what they got right with Dust and cutting out the extra stuff they couldn't deliver. To those complaining about a CoD clone. It's not really. Sure it's a round based shooter, but double jumping? Tank heal dps? It sounds more like TF2 or Overwatch, but with more customisation (hopefully) and set in the Eve universe. With Dust they tried to make the most ludicrously ambitious fps ever. With intense combat, MMOFPS gameplay, Eve connection. It just didn't work. At least this time they can focus on making a good game, even if it won't be the most original. The dust we've been playing has been basically a lobby shooter. I've enjoyed it, but I can't count the times I've wished for a decent framerate. I'd be happy with the ability to keep playing Dust with working mechanics and smooth gameplay. Even if I am sad we don't have the amazing ground-based companion MMO for Eve. You never know, if they can make a good game maybe someday these things can be linked to Eve in some way.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 901	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:45:00 - [50] - Quote Roy Xkillerz wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. No, that's just not reasonable. The MMO stuff is too fundamental to the game to be added later. All this is, is a demo of the gameplay, if they want to add MMO, they'll have to rebuild it. Totally agree. You don't just toss in a few mechanics and turn a lobby shooter into a MMO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLGdp9lp2Kw gameplay judge yourself. But its simple if this game doesn't deliver we play star citizen. But let me agreed on 1 thing in all those years this is little weak. At this point I am imagining something like a Blacklight Retribution clone. I have a feeling it will be packed with more of the same pay wall BS that was the warbarge in Dust but I am honestly trying to reserve judgement (unsuccessfully)

Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3833	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:45:00 - [51] - Quote Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 815	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:47:00 - [52] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. We just got through a 4 year long beta, I guess some of just hoped we wouldn't have to endure another 4 year beta in the HOPES of getting the game that was once sold to us. Music Video: Farewell DUST Turns out DUST was the DUST killer
Ghural WarRavens Imperium Eden 439	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:48:00 - [53] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. Is there any sort of vision for this game? At the moment all it is is "just another lobby shooter" What is the CPMs take on this?
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 1256	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:54:00 - [54] - Quote Although I got a bitter taste with the "less MMO" part, I will hold on with my judgment until we get more info. For me, what drew me to Dust was the connection to EVE... To be part of something bigger... The meta game of New Exen. Fighting in corridors could just be a warehouse as much as a spaceship. You just don't know unless you somehow got there via a ship, right? I sincerely hope they meant the focus "right now" was less MMO (to get the FPS up to par), in case I fully support them. It will be extremely hard to add the MMO connection on later, if it's not part of the overall plan right now.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 903	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:57:00 - [55] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: Although I got a bitter taste with the "less MMO" part, I will hold on with my judgment until we get more info. For me, what drew me to Dust was the connection to EVE... To be part of something bigger... The meta game of New Exen. Fighting in corridors could just be a warehouse as much as a spaceship. You just don't know unless you somehow got there via a ship, right? I sincerely hope they meant the focus "right now" was less MMO (to get the FPS up to par), in case I fully support them. It will be extremely hard to add the MMO connection on later, if it's not part of the overall plan right now. For me its the combination of "less MMO" and "less skill tree" that really bums me out.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6963	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:02:00 - [56] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: Although I got a bitter taste with the "less MMO" part, I will hold on with my judgment until we get more info. For me, what drew me to Dust was the connection to EVE... To be part of something bigger... The meta game of New Exen. Fighting in corridors could just be a warehouse as much as a spaceship. You just don't know unless you somehow got there via a ship, right? I sincerely hope they meant the focus "right now" was less MMO (to get the FPS up to par), in case I fully support them. It will be extremely hard to add the MMO connection on later, if it's not part of the overall plan right now. For me its the combination of "less MMO" and "less skill tree" that really bums me out. That + the social part is all that made dust fun..all the costumization..get rid of that and you got a game worse than cod (i only say worse cuz cod at least has zombies) Keep and eye out for the new battlefield
Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1222	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:07:00 - [57] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. Obviously it's a demo, however, if I wanted to play a lobby shooter with almost no customisation and barely any people, I'd go play COD. Again it's not a finished product, but seriously? Yeah it looks good but it's getting rid of what made dust, dust. Hopefully I'm completely wrong and it's gonna be a completely different game than what we've seen (I hope I am) but this is just underwhelming. Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2243	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:18:00 - [58] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. Obviously it's a demo, however, if I wanted to play a lobby shooter with almost no customisation and barely any people, I'd go play COD. Again it's not a finished product, but seriously? Yeah it looks good but it's getting rid of what made dust, dust. Hopefully I'm completely wrong and it's gonna be a completely different game than what we've seen (I hope I am) but this is just underwhelming. They haven't shown us the customisation yet. Rattati was a bit vague about it. I'm hoping there will still be a decent amount.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2946	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:24:00 - [59] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. If the game is playable, CCP should already make the demo available for Dust Veterans. Not Fanfest only. They want feedback after all, right? The most obvious feedback they are already getting: Don't turn back on the MMO stuff, but expand on it. Th ebiggest problem the community currently has is not, that Nova is currently in such a basic state, but that, apparently, CCP is only aiming for this and nothing more. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 907	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:35:00 - [60] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. If the game is playable, CCP should already make the demo available for Dust Veterans. Not Fanfest only. They want feedback after all, right? The most obvious feedback they are already getting: Don't turn back on the MMO stuff, but expand on it. Th ebiggest problem the community currently has is not, that Nova is currently in such a basic state, but that, apparently, CCP is only aiming for this and nothing more. I highly doubt most of us have a PC that could run it in the very unoptimized state that it is most likely in. Hopefully someone at fanfest is able to answer my thread requesting info on what the PCs which the demos are running on look like to try to get an idea if an alpha release would even be viable any time soon.

Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6965	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:41:00 - [61] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. If the game is playable, CCP should already make the demo available for Dust Veterans. Not Fanfest only. They want feedback after all, right? The most obvious feedback they are already getting: Don't turn back on the MMO stuff, but expand on it. Th ebiggest problem the community currently has is not, that Nova is currently in such a basic state, but that, apparently, CCP is only aiming for this and nothing more. I highly doubt most of us have a PC that could run it in the very unoptimized state that it is most likely in. Hopefully someone at fanfest is able to answer my thread requesting info on what the PCs which the demos are running on look like to try to get an idea if an alpha release would even be viable any time soon. Mine can
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 907	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:44:00 - [62] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. If the game is playable, CCP should already make the demo available for Dust Veterans. Not Fanfest only. They want feedback after all, right? The most obvious feedback they are already getting: Don't turn back on the MMO stuff, but expand on it. Th ebiggest problem the community currently has is not, that Nova is currently in such a basic state, but that, apparently, CCP is only aiming for this and nothing more. I highly doubt most of us have a PC that could run it in the very unoptimized state that it is most likely in. Hopefully someone at fanfest is able to answer my thread requesting info on what the PCs which the demos are running on look like to try to get an idea if an alpha release would even be viable any time soon. Mine can If the Oculus launch had not gotten so botched I would be able to run it right now but I decided to hold off and wait for all the new graphics cards coming out since getting an Oculus any time soon seems to be off the table.
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 821	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:45:00 - [63] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Mine can As can I, but the question is: when? My first impressions of Project Nova
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 10143	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:00:00 - [64] - Quote There is a tear of joy going down my eye right now. Keys and lockboxes are the root of all evil. 21 Day EVE Trial Bitches
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6965	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:00:00 - [65] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Mine can As can I, but the question is: when? June
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1011	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:04:00 - [66] - Quote I think the I saw the minmatar precision rifle in that leaked gameplay footage. Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! HOO-HA! The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 1062	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:39:00 - [67] - Quote Looks good, very excited...but no trees? You'd think they'd at least have a decorative ficus or two in all those corridors... Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1888	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:54:00 - [68] - Quote Graphics wise it doesnt look impressive at all. Animations look stiff and rough (still better then Dust514 though). But ill probs pass on this cause i dont want to deal with millions of micro transactions anymore. I matured as a gamer and F2P games are usually more expensive in the long run then a full fledged game that costs 60Gé¼. Honestly since CCP decided to move onto the PC my general assumption will be that there might be some heavy link between "Nova" and Eve which will force the eve players to play it aswell. In the end CCP probs gonna double dip on their fanbase which is as follows: 1. Subs for Eve online. 2. Nova clustered with micro transactions which basically forces you to buy em to be competetive. Dust514 wasnt a testfield about gameplay, it was a testfield for microtransactions and how big the potential would be. Therefore they moved on to the PC where the most amount of players can be found. More players= more micro transactions etc. I wouldnt even be surprised if essential items such as skillbooks can only be obtained from Strongboxes. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Avallo Kantor 1115	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:40:00 - [69] - Quote Trying to be the devil's advocate... based on the fact that most players would only be allowed to demo a match or two they may have "tweaked" the player creation / selection to these shiny archetypes to avoid players having to spend significant portions of their limited demo time kitting themselves out. After all for demos of the like of Valkyarie they just threw you into the game without having to fit out your ship (which is possible in that game) It may be possible to fit out your characters later, and the like but they just did not include it in the demo, instead showing a nice looking screen to put on top of the selection. Recall that often times demos will include "demo-only" features for the purposes of hiding or glossing over features that currently are not fully implemented. "Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
NoExsplosionsMgee Rebels New Republic 575	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:56:00 - [70] - Quote Ghural wrote: Worst possible outcome. Single race, scaled back MMO elements, no cohesive vision, no grand strategy gameplay, no connection with EVE. The ultimate **** you Dust 514 fans from our good friends at CCP. Hate being right. Yeah,this entire fucking thing is a complete and utter turn off for me. :( PRAISE THE SUN!! \ \|Gö¼\|' /

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 15094	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:58:00 - [71] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: Trying to be the devil's advocate... based on the fact that most players would only be allowed to demo a match or two they may have "tweaked" the player creation / selection to these shiny archetypes to avoid players having to spend significant portions of their limited demo time kitting themselves out. After all for demos of the like of Valkyarie they just threw you into the game without having to fit out your ship (which is possible in that game) It may be possible to fit out your characters later, and the like but they just did not include it in the demo, instead showing a nice looking screen to put on top of the selection. Recall that often times demos will include "demo-only" features for the purposes of hiding or glossing over features that currently are not fully implemented. Then that point should have been clear in the keynote, in the interview after, or CCP needs to make it clear during some sort of round table. So far they have had at least 2 opportunities to make things clear, and have not done so. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations 3273	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:12:00 - [72] - Quote From what I can tell, they've stripped out everything that made DUST 514 unique/interesting/fun. This is also DUST's competitive advantage in the marketplace. I have 0 confidence that the Shanghai team can make a better CoD on a shoestring budget with very little experience. This makes no sense to me. I was holding out a little hope until now. Hope of a rich/fun/deep thinking man's battlefield is gone. I wish CCP Rattati and the rest of the crew the best in the future. I appreciate all they did for us over the years, but this is not the vision I was sold on. I don't even mind that much about it being a PC exclusive. I have 0 confidence in the upper management of CCP to make the right decisions. If they had publicly traded stock, I'd sell it short. Best PvE idea ever!
Dreis ShadowWeaver ZEN KILL Society 9124	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:51:00 - [73] - Quote Looks like Destiny
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 1064	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:51:00 - [74] - Quote Lel at all the snipers. Good luck in those hallways! Edit: Of course I'll miss flying dropships... Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3748	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:54:00 - [75] - Quote Bremen van Equis wrote: Lel at all the snipers. Good luck in those hallways! Edit: Of course I'll miss flying dropships... inb4 quickscope wunderkinder take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3842	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:56:00 - [76] - Quote Ghural wrote: What is the CPMs take on this? I think I can safely say that our take is quite positive. It's extremely frustrating not to know what's going to happen, but we know (some of) the future, and we're excited. Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4690	Posted - 2016.04.21 18:00:00 - [77] - Quote COD in space: Nova edition Strip DUST of anything remotely fun and intresting and you get this, i get that EA just does not listen to the playerbase when making games but CCP has listened then decided to do the excat opposite which is even worse. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1891	Posted - 2016.04.21 19:07:00 - [78] - Quote They removed vehicles cause the normal player is either too stupid or ignorant to take care of em so the solution is to eliminate everything that "annoyed" the casual player. Which means they take the game into space where you dont need vehicles at all to move around. I probs can sum it up like this: -Redline got annoying? Removed -Vehicles are too hard to kill/balance? Removed -Snipers that sit in the redline? No problem cause redline doesnt exist anymore -High ground tactical uplinks? Not possible cause no more Dropships -Orbital strikes from eve? Nope not gonna work inside of a spaceship/station -PC fights will probs be replaced with capturing stations/citadells instead of beeing on a planet -Complex fitting? Nah casuals cant deal with that so they streamline it down to suit, gun and a equipment -game modes are just going to be copy pasted from COD. So they rip the stuff out that made the game unique and replace it with casual friendly COD elements. Hmm i wonder how thats gonna workout cause ya know we all know how "good" COD clones are received on the gaming market. Todays gaming scene is all about of beeing unique and fun to play. Since the first thing is allready out of the question it basically reduces the success chance by 50%. Unless CCP handsout more information then this game will flop. Oh and Inb4 you get early beta access by purchasing the "merc pack" from CCP. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7781	Posted - 2016.04.21 19:50:00 - [79] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: So 1 picture and basically just rehashed assets from DUST, I can see where this is going. Dust has always been the basis for the bigger game. Nova is that bigger game. The anti-tunnel snake taskforce has assembled
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4881	Posted - 2016.04.21 19:56:00 - [80] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: So 1 picture and basically just rehashed assets from DUST, I can see where this is going. Dust has always been the basis for the bigger game. Nova is that bigger game. Exactly, they will build on what they learned from Dust and actually get the game right from the start this time. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw

Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7781	Posted - 2016.04.21 19:57:00 - [81] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: They removed vehicles cause the normal player is either too stupid or ignorant to take care of em so the solution is to eliminate everything that "annoyed" the casual player. Which means they take the game into space where you dont need vehicles at all to move around. I probs can sum it up like this: -Redline got annoying? Removed -Vehicles are too hard to kill/balance? Removed -Snipers that sit in the redline? No problem cause redline doesnt exist anymore -High ground tactical uplinks? Not possible cause no more Dropships -Orbital strikes from eve? Nope not gonna work inside of a spaceship/station -PC fights will probs be replaced with capturing stations/citadells instead of beeing on a planet -Complex fitting? Nah casuals cant deal with that so they streamline it down to suit, gun and a equipment -game modes are just going to be copy pasted from COD. So they rip the stuff out that made the game unique and replace it with casual friendly COD elements. Hmm i wonder how thats gonna workout cause ya know we all know how "good" COD clones are received on the gaming market. Todays gaming scene is all about of beeing unique and fun to play. Since the first thing is allready out of the question it basically reduces the success chance by 50%. Unless CCP handsout more information then this game will flop. Oh and Inb4 you get early beta access by purchasing the "merc pack" from CCP. It's a tech demo, you ******* window-licker. But no, the full game will no longer have a redline, because it's intended to have an open-world layout. The anti-tunnel snake taskforce has assembled
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4883	Posted - 2016.04.21 19:58:00 - [82] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: They removed vehicles cause the normal player is either too stupid or ignorant to take care of em so the solution is to eliminate everything that "annoyed" the casual player. Which means they take the game into space where you dont need vehicles at all to move around. I probs can sum it up like this: -Redline got annoying? Removed -Vehicles are too hard to kill/balance? Removed -Snipers that sit in the redline? No problem cause redline doesnt exist anymore -High ground tactical uplinks? Not possible cause no more Dropships -Orbital strikes from eve? Nope not gonna work inside of a spaceship/station -PC fights will probs be replaced with capturing stations/citadells instead of beeing on a planet -Complex fitting? Nah casuals cant deal with that so they streamline it down to suit, gun and a equipment -game modes are just going to be copy pasted from COD. So they rip the stuff out that made the game unique and replace it with casual friendly COD elements. Hmm i wonder how thats gonna workout cause ya know we all know how "good" COD clones are received on the gaming market. Todays gaming scene is all about of beeing unique and fun to play. Since the first thing is allready out of the question it basically reduces the success chance by 50%. Unless CCP handsout more information then this game will flop. Oh and Inb4 you get early beta access by purchasing the "merc pack" from CCP. It's a tech demo, you ******* window-licker. But no, the full game will no longer have a redline, because it's intended to have an open-world layout. Yes, in fact Rattati himself said that the ultimate goal is a sandbox. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2984	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:00:00 - [83] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. If the game is playable, CCP should already make the demo available for Dust Veterans. Not Fanfest only. They want feedback after all, right? The most obvious feedback they are already getting: Don't turn back on the MMO stuff, but expand on it. Th ebiggest problem the community currently has is not, that Nova is currently in such a basic state, but that, apparently, CCP is only aiming for this and nothing more. I highly doubt most of us have a PC that could run it in the very unoptimized state that it is most likely in. Hopefully someone at fanfest is able to answer my thread requesting info on what the PCs which the demos are running on look like to try to get an idea if an alpha release would even be viable any time soon. It's just unreal engine 4... the engine itself is optimized. You don't need a magically ultra PC to run that. Even if Nova itself isn't that optimized, you can scale down graphics and it would probably be playable on most PCs. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Skihids Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 3643	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:01:00 - [84] - Quote If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. What I don't understand is why CCP hasn't written a basic press release with that information for this event. They have to know what would happen in the forums if they simply showed a bare bones tech demo and said "We are concentrating on FPS and not MMO". If they have plans, they should have been posted on these forums. How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up?
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4883	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:05:00 - [85] - Quote Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. What I don't understand is why CCP hasn't written a basic press release with that information for this event. They have to know what would happen in the forums if they simply showed a bare bones tech demo and said "We are concentrating on FPS and not MMO". If they have plans, they should have been posted on these forums. How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up? They probably wanted it to be some big surprise or something like that. I don't blame them for it. I'm sure there will be something from the devs on the forums within the week. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
Skihids Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 3644	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:30:00 - [86] - Quote I get that Fanfest is a very poor venu for talking about Nova. It's filled with EO players who want to hear about EO. However they could have done a simultaneous reveal here on the forum explaining where they are now (simple tech demo) and what their vision is (supposedly most of the original promise). It should be obvious that saying what they have so far was going to cause people to assume the worst (a dumbed down lobby shooter). What could be preventing them from presenting a broad outline? How could that be in any way worse than stirring up the sh*tstorm that they have?
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4696	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:33:00 - [87] - Quote Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. What I don't understand is why CCP hasn't written a basic press release with that information for this event. They have to know what would happen in the forums if they simply showed a bare bones tech demo and said "We are concentrating on FPS and not MMO". If they have plans, they should have been posted on these forums. How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up? If the CPM is anything i am deeply worried, excited proberly means it will be shite and from current videos it is, confidence will mean CCP has not got a clue, indepth will mean that all options have been taken away and MMO = 6v6 at this point. Rouge wedding anyone? I would rarther take an opinion from a crackhead called jim and a talking gerbil than a bunch of yes idiots who do less than nothing while being some of the worst players of the game and have been elected by less than 1% of the playerbase because they are not really needed and everyone knows that. Quote: How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up? Very difficult, communication is impossible for them and CCP. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Skihids Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 3644	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:36:00 - [88] - Quote I suppose that I've been spoiled by the flood of information coming out of Star Citizen. SC is like Niagra Falls to CCP's dripping faucet.
AldnoahZero Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 46	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:41:00 - [89] - Quote Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. CPM were useless since CPM 0, who did zero for the game and playerbase. One guy resigned, one used their position to take PCP districts, and another was removed due to not bothering to post or play. How can you trust that?
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1893	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:52:00 - [90] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: It's a tech demo, you ******* window-licker. But no, the full game will no longer have a redline, because it's intended to have an open-world layout. Fighting in spaceship with set objectives and spawns with small corridors isnt open world. Open world games are like GTAV, far Cry4, Just Cause etc and as a prime example Planetside 2. Sure it might be a tech demo but its in a appearently playable state at the fanfest. So yeah i feel entitled enough to not be delusional fanboy who swallows everything from CCP in a desperate attempt to replace Dust. To further elaborate about the open world thing i probs imagine you just gonna select a random planet, which then has a certain map assigned to it which is going to repeat itself numereus times. If the transition from one area to another isnt seamless its not open world. You should be more cautious cause for all i know CCP went onto full blown greed mode. Look at eve online where you pay for your sub (in some way or another) and yet its getting bombarded with micro transactions. Now imagine how bad this gonna get on this "new" F2P game on PC? Im skeptical until CCP shows me more how this whole thing is going to work otherwise you can title it "COD in space". Which ironically might happend with this years COD release. Besides the more critics/feedback they get the more of a chance you have to change something. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12915	Posted - 2016.04.21 21:00:00 - [91] - Quote sabre prime wrote: I think the I saw the minmatar precision rifle in that leaked gameplay footage. Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! HOO-HA! Almost forgot /s The precision Rifle is supposed to be a beast, at that. If you find the footage and pay attention I could have sworn that he one-shots a sentinel with that at some point. I'll have to look again. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6980	Posted - 2016.04.21 21:03:00 - [92] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: sabre prime wrote: I think the I saw the minmatar precision rifle in that leaked gameplay footage. Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! HOO-HA! Almost forgot /s The precision Rifle is supposed to be a beast, at that. If you find the footage and pay attention I could have sworn that he one-shots a sentinel with that at some point. I'll have to look again. If it was Kirk then yeah but I believe the ugly creature was already damaged
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12919	Posted - 2016.04.21 21:18:00 - [93] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: sabre prime wrote: I think the I saw the minmatar precision rifle in that leaked gameplay footage. Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! HOO-HA! Almost forgot /s The precision Rifle is supposed to be a beast, at that. If you find the footage and pay attention I could have sworn that he one-shots a sentinel with that at some point. I'll have to look again. If it was Kirk then yeah but I believe the ugly creature was already damaged Unfortunately, I could not afford Fanfest, so I cannot give firsthand impressions. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2256	Posted - 2016.04.21 21:28:00 - [94] - Quote I hope vehicles make it in. There's been no indication that interior maps will be the sole focus of the game. In fact, I'd be happy if they had outdoor maps dominated by vehicles to even out the indoor maps. I too would be very much against CCP removing the strategic / tactical elements to the game. However I don't think this is what's happening. If the game was dumbed down everyone would be a run-and-gun medium with a rifle. The fact that Rattati mentioned focus on tank-heal-dps, and the fact the demo has sentinels, cloaks and snipers, all point to depth of gameplay. Which is something I was worried might be reduced. Let's hope they get vehicles in as well. Just in case, I think I'll be spending my remaining SP in Dust on vehicles, whilst I still have the chance.
Ghural WarRavens Imperium Eden 451	Posted - 2016.04.21 21:39:00 - [95] - Quote All CCP had to do was say "we are working on a new game, this is the vision for it, this is where it is now, this is where we want it to be, and here is some pre alpha footage". But nooooooi
AldnoahZero Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 48	Posted - 2016.04.21 22:30:00 - [96] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: sabre prime wrote: I think the I saw the minmatar precision rifle in that leaked gameplay footage. Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! HOO-HA! Almost forgot /s The precision Rifle is supposed to be a beast, at that. If you find the footage and pay attention I could have sworn that he one-shots a sentinel with that at some point. I'll have to look again. Sounds like a forge gun hitting a tank in the rear end. Overpowered and pointless.
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4889	Posted - 2016.04.22 00:09:00 - [97] - Quote Skihids wrote: I get that Fanfest is a very poor venu for talking about Nova. It's filled with EO players who want to hear about EO. However they could have done a simultaneous reveal here on the forum explaining where they are now (simple tech demo) and what their vision is (supposedly most of the original promise). It should be obvious that saying what they have so far was going to cause people to assume the worst (a dumbed down lobby shooter). What could be preventing them from presenting a broad outline? How could that be in any way worse than stirring up the sh*tstorm that they have? Well you have to admit that most of CCP's employees are at fanfest, which means that none of them even have the time to post anything on the forums at all. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4889	Posted - 2016.04.22 00:11:00 - [98] - Quote AldnoahZero wrote: Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. CPM were useless since CPM 0, who did zero for the game and playerbase. One guy resigned, one used their position to take PCP districts, and another was removed due to not bothering to post or play. How can you trust that? Um, no. The CPM (mostly) helped balance the game and pushed to make the game better. That is proven if you were to actually take the time to see what they were doing on the forums. Edit: DPLAK Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
Lord Vahzz 225	Posted - 2016.04.22 00:11:00 - [99] - Quote Mechs? There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4889	Posted - 2016.04.22 00:12:00 - [100] - Quote Ghural wrote: All CCP had to do was say "we are working on a new game, this is the vision for it, this is where it is now, this is where we want it to be, and here is some pre alpha footage". But nooooooi Actually CCP Rattati said himself that the ultimate vision was for a sandbox mmo with integration to EVE. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw

AldnoahZero Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2016.04.22 01:30:00 - [101] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: AldnoahZero wrote: Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. CPM were useless since CPM 0, who did zero for the game and playerbase. One guy resigned, one used their position to take PCP districts, and another was removed due to not bothering to post or play. How can you trust that? Um, no. The CPM (mostly) helped balance the game and pushed to make the game better. That is proven if you were to actually take the time to see what they were doing on the forums. Edit: DPLAK They've done nothing to make it better.
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4890	Posted - 2016.04.22 01:31:00 - [102] - Quote AldnoahZero wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: AldnoahZero wrote: Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. CPM were useless since CPM 0, who did zero for the game and playerbase. One guy resigned, one used their position to take PCP districts, and another was removed due to not bothering to post or play. How can you trust that? Um, no. The CPM (mostly) helped balance the game and pushed to make the game better. That is proven if you were to actually take the time to see what they were doing on the forums. Edit: DPLAK They've done nothing to make it better. Lol, you obviously haven't been paying attention. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4890	Posted - 2016.04.22 01:32:00 - [103] - Quote Also, Aldnoah.Zero is one of my favorite animes. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
Thor Odinson42 514 to PS4 7454	Posted - 2016.04.22 01:39:00 - [104] - Quote In And I better have a spot in the alpha.
Marston VC SVER True Blood RUST415 1702	Posted - 2016.04.22 04:41:00 - [105] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. What I don't understand is why CCP hasn't written a basic press release with that information for this event. They have to know what would happen in the forums if they simply showed a bare bones tech demo and said "We are concentrating on FPS and not MMO". If they have plans, they should have been posted on these forums. How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up? If the CPM is anything i am deeply worried, excited proberly means it will be shite and from current videos it is, confidence will mean CCP has not got a clue, indepth will mean that all options have been taken away and MMO = 6v6 at this point. Rouge wedding anyone? I would rarther take an opinion from a crackhead called jim and a talking gerbil than a bunch of yes idiots who do less than nothing while being some of the worst players of the game and have been elected by less than 1% of the playerbase because they are not really needed and everyone knows that. Quote: How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up? Very difficult, communication is impossible for them and CCP. http://www.destructoid.com/ccp-s-new-first-person-shooter-on-pc-aims-to-get-right-what-dust-514-didn-t-356861.phtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&amp;amp;utm_medium=twitter This article Basically addresses what your saying. Its an interview of the executive producer. While there are some concerning things, it looks like most of your specific complaints are unwarrented. Marston VC, STB Director
AldnoahZero Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2016.04.22 08:21:00 - [106] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: AldnoahZero wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: AldnoahZero wrote: Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. CPM were useless since CPM 0, who did zero for the game and playerbase. One guy resigned, one used their position to take PCP districts, and another was removed due to not bothering to post or play. How can you trust that? Um, no. The CPM (mostly) helped balance the game and pushed to make the game better. That is proven if you were to actually take the time to see what they were doing on the forums. Edit: DPLAK They've done nothing to make it better. Lol, you obviously haven't been paying attention. I always pay attention.
AldnoahZero Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2016.04.22 08:23:00 - [107] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Also, Aldnoah.Zero is one of my favorite animes. This show beats it. Don't watch it on Netflix, the translation is incredibly bad. I have the first two manga, and whatever idiot at Netflix couldn't look it up and get some of the words correctly.
Ghural WarRavens Imperium Eden 452	Posted - 2016.04.22 09:23:00 - [108] - Quote I'd like to get excited by Nova, but the lack of concrete details and the usual vague statement of "maybe something soon" from CCP just sounds reminds me of the last few years of Dust. Can the CPM help? It seems that there are a number of common questions from the community that remain to be answered. What is the vision for the new game? What happened to the vision of grand warfare with an Eve connection that originally attracted us to Dust? What happens to the community once the dust servers go down? This isn't an invitation for dust players to give us their opinions on the above questions. But an opportunity for CCP to actually talk to us, rather than just making some silly statement about "thanks for coming along for then journey", the community has valid questions and concerns, actually talking to us and addressing them would go a long way towards turning the current cynicism and skeptism towards the new project into excitement and anticipation. Come on CCP.
DeathwindRising Second-Nature Shadow of Dust 1422	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:01:00 - [109] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I am not super confident tho. They apparently have a playable version at fanfest but it took Valkyrie a year to go from that stage to alpha. Also Hilmar was not very confident when he said we want to make it free to play as if no monetization is in place yet. dust 514 is free to play and yet still profitable
DeathwindRising Second-Nature Shadow of Dust 1422	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:10:00 - [110] - Quote my understanding is that theyre not necessarily make the game MMO, but that they wanted to build a foundation tirst. where as dust 514 focused on MMO first and then tried to make an FPS out of it, Project Nova aims to be an FPS first and then build on from there into a MMO. we asked for this for three years both directly an indirectly. we said the shooting sucked in dust and that they needed to get that right first. so they are... now we cry that we have a FPS but the MMO is gone. you gotta start somewhere. dust tried to do everything all at once from the start and it screwed them over in the end. the best we can do for the future of this is to give feedback on whatever they got. the sooner they get the core mechanics right, the sooner they can move on to other stuff.

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4704	Posted - 2016.04.22 12:04:00 - [111] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. What I don't understand is why CCP hasn't written a basic press release with that information for this event. They have to know what would happen in the forums if they simply showed a bare bones tech demo and said "We are concentrating on FPS and not MMO". If they have plans, they should have been posted on these forums. How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up? If the CPM is anything i am deeply worried, excited proberly means it will be shite and from current videos it is, confidence will mean CCP has not got a clue, indepth will mean that all options have been taken away and MMO = 6v6 at this point. Rouge wedding anyone? I would rarther take an opinion from a crackhead called jim and a talking gerbil than a bunch of yes idiots who do less than nothing while being some of the worst players of the game and have been elected by less than 1% of the playerbase because they are not really needed and everyone knows that. Quote: How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up? Very difficult, communication is impossible for them and CCP. http://www.destructoid.com/ccp-s-new-first-person-shooter-on-pc-aims-to-get-right-what-dust-514-didn-t-356861.phtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&amp;amp;utm_medium=twitter This article Basically addresses what your saying. Its an interview of the executive producer. While there are some concerning things, it looks like most of your specific complaints are unwarrented. Taking that with a tanker container of salt. Lazer focused anyone? Maybe 3 years from now we get something that is similar to DUST but early stages is a COD clone, a forgettable game with alot of options taken away and gives me more doubts than hope, that demo is the worst thing they could have done because it shows nothing new and highlights the worst of it. What about vehicles on an open map to test out vehicle balance how about that? it is supposed to be an MMO and getting FPS mechanics right for infantry means jack shite for vehicles. How about preview of what they doing with skill trees? or possible EVE connections? modules? weapons? A slideshow presentation would have been more useful for highlighting what they want to do. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 7628	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:01:00 - [112] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I am not super confident tho. They apparently have a playable version at fanfest but it took Valkyrie a year to go from that stage to alpha. Also Hilmar was not very confident when he said we want to make it free to play as if no monetization is in place yet. Quote: +ürnason reflects and says "We're aiming for an alpha in 2016. This year maybe? Could be." Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1898	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:32:00 - [113] - Quote By the way the game has reduced playercounts. Dust has 32 players (16vs16) and Nova has 12 players (6vs6) active on one map. Sure they want to focus on more gunfights but i would have recommended to orientate the game more towards Battlefield and not COD. Battlefield is for mature players while COD is for players that have the mindset of a goldfish. If CCP follows trough with this "COD concept" i can allready predict that the game will flop massively. Not mainly because its copying COD but simply due to the fact that the PC market is oversaturated with COD clones. So why should i be happy with a cheap clone if i could go ahead and play the original? Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Dreis ShadowWeaver ZEN KILL Society 9127	Posted - 2016.04.22 15:03:00 - [114] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: By the way the game has reduced playercounts. Dust has 32 players (16vs16) and Nova has 12 players (6vs6) active on one map. That was only for the demo.
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4902	Posted - 2016.04.22 17:29:00 - [115] - Quote AldnoahZero wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: AldnoahZero wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: AldnoahZero wrote: CPM were useless since CPM 0, who did zero for the game and playerbase. One guy resigned, one used their position to take PCP districts, and another was removed due to not bothering to post or play. How can you trust that? Um, no. The CPM (mostly) helped balance the game and pushed to make the game better. That is proven if you were to actually take the time to see what they were doing on the forums. Edit: DPLAK They've done nothing to make it better. Lol, you obviously haven't been paying attention. I always pay attention. How much have you been paying him? 5 dollars, 10?! I'm going to have a word with attention. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
AldnoahZero Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 53	Posted - 2016.04.22 18:57:00 - [116] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I am not super confident tho. They apparently have a playable version at fanfest but it took Valkyrie a year to go from that stage to alpha. Also Hilmar was not very confident when he said we want to make it free to play as if no monetization is in place yet. dust 514 is free to play and yet still profitable How long did it take them to make a profit?
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1899	Posted - 2016.04.22 19:44:00 - [117] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: By the way the game has reduced playercounts. Dust has 32 players (16vs16) and Nova has 12 players (6vs6) active on one map. That was only for the demo. Well see about that some time later down the road. Until then ill relate to the demo on the fanfest. Ya know if you presentate a game in a early stage you have a general idea where your game is supposed to go. The public only reacts in two ways to a presentation which is either negative or positive. However since it is heavily influenced by Dust it has to be compared. Every alternation, every design decision has the chance to alienate their former/current playerbase. Imagine it if CCP releases EVE 2 which is drastically dumbed down where you can only chose a ship but arent aible to alter the fitting. That would cause a massive uproar in the existing playerbase and with that the potential to loose your playerbase. Surely i will keep an eye out for development changes and more gameplay while time passes. But for now it hasnt made a good start at all. Most developers hold off with public presantations till they know where they are going with the game and what the concept is all about. If you just go ahead and do it to keep the dust players on the hook while having a crappy presantation you only risk it to loose sayd players. Anyway i would like to know if CCP will be at the gamescom this year and if "project Nova" will be showcased there. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
OVERLORD GUCI Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 143	Posted - 2016.04.22 23:03:00 - [118] - Quote Dust 514 and it's playerbase failed, very shity playerbase. CCP should move in the opposite direction away from it's failed game Dust 514 and very shtty playerbase
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12972	Posted - 2016.04.22 23:11:00 - [119] - Quote Rattati and Company have taken the tack that simply porting the game as-is would be unacceptable. Lag problems, buggy code, easy to exploit glitches that seem hardwired into the core of the game, poor hit detection, the list goes on. Starting clean with a new interface, and building the core game around an engine that was not their Frankenstein UE3 job was key. As a result the development priority, so far as I can tell (I do not sit in on the internal development meetings, and I have to extrapolate a lot) is that the primary goal for the early phases of development is a functional shooter where all of the basic mechanics (running, shooting, hacking, not falling through the map) are addressed first, completed first and adjusted to work as intended before scooting forward and adding in things that people may want, or expect. That's what the tech demo is, effectively, in my opinion. It's a show that CCP Shanghai's current crop of developers can build a game capable of delivering a meaningful in-the-helmet combat game that is fun to run and shoot people with first, before all other considerations. If that doesn't happen, then none of the MMO, touchy-feely social, or vehicle features will matter. DUST proved you could have an amazing social experience centered around a mediocre first-person shooter. The current team is building a good shooter first, then adding in the things that might make the shooter into a proper game with social aspects and betrayal meta, more in-depth features, etc. But without that good core gameplay? None of the rest of it matter anyway. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
Ghural WarRavens Imperium Eden 453	Posted - 2016.04.22 23:37:00 - [120] - Quote Yeah people shouldn't underestimate the impact of details like 60 FPS. Some of the planetary conquest battles in dust played like PowerPoint presentations.

Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1899	Posted - 2016.04.23 10:19:00 - [121] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Rattati and Company have taken the tack that simply porting the game as-is would be unacceptable. Lag problems, buggy code, easy to exploit glitches that seem hardwired into the core of the game, poor hit detection, the list goes on. Starting clean with a new interface, and building the core game around an engine that was not their Frankenstein UE3 job was key. As a result the development priority, so far as I can tell (I do not sit in on the internal development meetings, and I have to extrapolate a lot) is that the primary goal for the early phases of development is a functional shooter where all of the basic mechanics (running, shooting, hacking, not falling through the map) are addressed first, completed first and adjusted to work as intended before scooting forward and adding in things that people may want, or expect. That's what the tech demo is, effectively, in my opinion. It's a show that CCP Shanghai's current crop of developers can build a game capable of delivering a meaningful in-the-helmet combat game that is fun to run and shoot people with first, before all other considerations. If that doesn't happen, then none of the MMO, touchy-feely social, or vehicle features will matter. DUST proved you could have an amazing social experience centered around a mediocre first-person shooter. The current team is building a good shooter first, then adding in the things that might make the shooter into a proper game with social aspects and betrayal meta, more in-depth features, etc. But without that good core gameplay? None of the rest of it matter anyway. Im not critisising the aspect of moving from U3 to U4 thats actually a smart move. What im having a problem with that the ideas with vehicles and large fights are beeing scrapped. And mentioning that the system around fittings etc. is beeing dumbed down is another apsect to be woried about. You would assume when you move from console>PC the game would get more complex but in this case it seems the opposite way. That decision seems to be completely irrational. Maybe i should explarotate a bit of why i played dust: Once Mag was shut down i was bored with COD and games that are similar to it. So ive browsed trough the PS store and saw the closed beta for Dust514. I made some research and it seemed to be similar to MAG so ive hopped onto it. First i was overwhelmed with the complexity but later on ive learned that this is the decision point of where you want to go in the game. I could start playing logi, assault or heavy or go and help my team with vehicles. Many different choices and each decision refined my playstyle. Thats what made Dust unique where every merc specced differently and that aswell showed on the battlefield where you bring a certain value with sayd spec. Balanced teams had a varietion of everything which was beutyfull to see. If that goes away it then Nova looses the very reason why i sticked with Dust for so long. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12979	Posted - 2016.04.23 13:34:00 - [122] - Quote This is a TECH DEMO for a PRE-ALPHA game. You are putting the cart before the horse. Just because it's not shown in the video game equivalent of a demo reel doesn't mean it's been slashed out conceptually. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7897	Posted - 2016.04.23 13:58:00 - [123] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: This is a TECH DEMO for a PRE-ALPHA game. You are putting the cart before the horse. Just because it's not shown in the video game equivalent of a demo reel doesn't mean it's been slashed out conceptually. I get the feeling we're going to be repeating ourselves a lot. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1899	Posted - 2016.04.23 14:52:00 - [124] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: This is a TECH DEMO for a PRE-ALPHA game. You are putting the cart before the horse. Just because it's not shown in the video game equivalent of a demo reel doesn't mean it's been slashed out conceptually. I get the feeling we're going to be repeating ourselves a lot. Nah i think im done for now. Discussing this matter is pointless cause both sides can bring up arguments till they fall over dead. We get to know how the game will work once CCP launches a beta for it. Thats "IF" CCP decides to go into full development. It could just aswell do the Dodo and we never hear from it ever again. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.


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