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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:

Bright Cloud wrote:

They removed vehicles cause the normal player is either too stupid or ignorant to take care of em so the solution is to eliminate everything that "annoyed" the casual player. Which means they take the game into space where you dont need vehicles at all to move around. I probs can sum it up like this:

-Redline got annoying? Removed
-Vehicles are too hard to kill/balance? Removed
-Snipers that sit in the redline? No problem cause redline doesnt exist anymore
-High ground tactical uplinks? Not possible cause no more Dropships
-Orbital strikes from eve? Nope not gonna work inside of a spaceship/station
-PC fights will probs be replaced with capturing stations/citadells instead of beeing on a planet
-Complex fitting? Nah casuals cant deal with that so they streamline it down to suit, gun and a equipment
-game modes are just going to be copy pasted from COD.

So they rip the stuff out that made the game unique and replace it with casual friendly COD elements. Hmm i wonder how thats gonna workout cause ya know we all know how "good" COD clones are received on the gaming market. Todays gaming scene is all about of beeing unique and fun to play. Since the first thing is allready out of the question it basically reduces the success chance by 50%.

Unless CCP handsout more information then this game will flop. Oh and Inb4 you get early beta access by purchasing the "merc pack" from CCP.

It's a tech demo, you ******* window-licker.

But no, the full game will no longer have a redline, because it's intended to have an open-world layout.

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Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6965	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:41:00 - [61] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. If the game is playable, CCP should already make the demo available for Dust Veterans. Not Fanfest only. They want feedback after all, right? The most obvious feedback they are already getting: Don't turn back on the MMO stuff, but expand on it. Th ebiggest problem the community currently has is not, that Nova is currently in such a basic state, but that, apparently, CCP is only aiming for this and nothing more. I highly doubt most of us have a PC that could run it in the very unoptimized state that it is most likely in. Hopefully someone at fanfest is able to answer my thread requesting info on what the PCs which the demos are running on look like to try to get an idea if an alpha release would even be viable any time soon. Mine can
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 907	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:44:00 - [62] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. If the game is playable, CCP should already make the demo available for Dust Veterans. Not Fanfest only. They want feedback after all, right? The most obvious feedback they are already getting: Don't turn back on the MMO stuff, but expand on it. Th ebiggest problem the community currently has is not, that Nova is currently in such a basic state, but that, apparently, CCP is only aiming for this and nothing more. I highly doubt most of us have a PC that could run it in the very unoptimized state that it is most likely in. Hopefully someone at fanfest is able to answer my thread requesting info on what the PCs which the demos are running on look like to try to get an idea if an alpha release would even be viable any time soon. Mine can If the Oculus launch had not gotten so botched I would be able to run it right now but I decided to hold off and wait for all the new graphics cards coming out since getting an Oculus any time soon seems to be off the table.
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 821	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:45:00 - [63] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Mine can As can I, but the question is: when? My first impressions of Project Nova
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 10143	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:00:00 - [64] - Quote There is a tear of joy going down my eye right now. Keys and lockboxes are the root of all evil. 21 Day EVE Trial Bitches
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6965	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:00:00 - [65] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Mine can As can I, but the question is: when? June
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1011	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:04:00 - [66] - Quote I think the I saw the minmatar precision rifle in that leaked gameplay footage. Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! HOO-HA! The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 1062	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:39:00 - [67] - Quote Looks good, very excited...but no trees? You'd think they'd at least have a decorative ficus or two in all those corridors... Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1888	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:54:00 - [68] - Quote Graphics wise it doesnt look impressive at all. Animations look stiff and rough (still better then Dust514 though). But ill probs pass on this cause i dont want to deal with millions of micro transactions anymore. I matured as a gamer and F2P games are usually more expensive in the long run then a full fledged game that costs 60Gé¼. Honestly since CCP decided to move onto the PC my general assumption will be that there might be some heavy link between "Nova" and Eve which will force the eve players to play it aswell. In the end CCP probs gonna double dip on their fanbase which is as follows: 1. Subs for Eve online. 2. Nova clustered with micro transactions which basically forces you to buy em to be competetive. Dust514 wasnt a testfield about gameplay, it was a testfield for microtransactions and how big the potential would be. Therefore they moved on to the PC where the most amount of players can be found. More players= more micro transactions etc. I wouldnt even be surprised if essential items such as skillbooks can only be obtained from Strongboxes. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Avallo Kantor 1115	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:40:00 - [69] - Quote Trying to be the devil's advocate... based on the fact that most players would only be allowed to demo a match or two they may have "tweaked" the player creation / selection to these shiny archetypes to avoid players having to spend significant portions of their limited demo time kitting themselves out. After all for demos of the like of Valkyarie they just threw you into the game without having to fit out your ship (which is possible in that game) It may be possible to fit out your characters later, and the like but they just did not include it in the demo, instead showing a nice looking screen to put on top of the selection. Recall that often times demos will include "demo-only" features for the purposes of hiding or glossing over features that currently are not fully implemented. "Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
NoExsplosionsMgee Rebels New Republic 575	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:56:00 - [70] - Quote Ghural wrote: Worst possible outcome. Single race, scaled back MMO elements, no cohesive vision, no grand strategy gameplay, no connection with EVE. The ultimate **** you Dust 514 fans from our good friends at CCP. Hate being right. Yeah,this entire fucking thing is a complete and utter turn off for me. :( PRAISE THE SUN!! \ \|Gö¼\|' /

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 15094	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:58:00 - [71] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: Trying to be the devil's advocate... based on the fact that most players would only be allowed to demo a match or two they may have "tweaked" the player creation / selection to these shiny archetypes to avoid players having to spend significant portions of their limited demo time kitting themselves out. After all for demos of the like of Valkyarie they just threw you into the game without having to fit out your ship (which is possible in that game) It may be possible to fit out your characters later, and the like but they just did not include it in the demo, instead showing a nice looking screen to put on top of the selection. Recall that often times demos will include "demo-only" features for the purposes of hiding or glossing over features that currently are not fully implemented. Then that point should have been clear in the keynote, in the interview after, or CCP needs to make it clear during some sort of round table. So far they have had at least 2 opportunities to make things clear, and have not done so. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations 3273	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:12:00 - [72] - Quote From what I can tell, they've stripped out everything that made DUST 514 unique/interesting/fun. This is also DUST's competitive advantage in the marketplace. I have 0 confidence that the Shanghai team can make a better CoD on a shoestring budget with very little experience. This makes no sense to me. I was holding out a little hope until now. Hope of a rich/fun/deep thinking man's battlefield is gone. I wish CCP Rattati and the rest of the crew the best in the future. I appreciate all they did for us over the years, but this is not the vision I was sold on. I don't even mind that much about it being a PC exclusive. I have 0 confidence in the upper management of CCP to make the right decisions. If they had publicly traded stock, I'd sell it short. Best PvE idea ever!
Dreis ShadowWeaver ZEN KILL Society 9124	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:51:00 - [73] - Quote Looks like Destiny
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 1064	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:51:00 - [74] - Quote Lel at all the snipers. Good luck in those hallways! Edit: Of course I'll miss flying dropships... Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3748	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:54:00 - [75] - Quote Bremen van Equis wrote: Lel at all the snipers. Good luck in those hallways! Edit: Of course I'll miss flying dropships... inb4 quickscope wunderkinder take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3842	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:56:00 - [76] - Quote Ghural wrote: What is the CPMs take on this? I think I can safely say that our take is quite positive. It's extremely frustrating not to know what's going to happen, but we know (some of) the future, and we're excited. Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4690	Posted - 2016.04.21 18:00:00 - [77] - Quote COD in space: Nova edition Strip DUST of anything remotely fun and intresting and you get this, i get that EA just does not listen to the playerbase when making games but CCP has listened then decided to do the excat opposite which is even worse. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1891	Posted - 2016.04.21 19:07:00 - [78] - Quote They removed vehicles cause the normal player is either too stupid or ignorant to take care of em so the solution is to eliminate everything that "annoyed" the casual player. Which means they take the game into space where you dont need vehicles at all to move around. I probs can sum it up like this: -Redline got annoying? Removed -Vehicles are too hard to kill/balance? Removed -Snipers that sit in the redline? No problem cause redline doesnt exist anymore -High ground tactical uplinks? Not possible cause no more Dropships -Orbital strikes from eve? Nope not gonna work inside of a spaceship/station -PC fights will probs be replaced with capturing stations/citadells instead of beeing on a planet -Complex fitting? Nah casuals cant deal with that so they streamline it down to suit, gun and a equipment -game modes are just going to be copy pasted from COD. So they rip the stuff out that made the game unique and replace it with casual friendly COD elements. Hmm i wonder how thats gonna workout cause ya know we all know how "good" COD clones are received on the gaming market. Todays gaming scene is all about of beeing unique and fun to play. Since the first thing is allready out of the question it basically reduces the success chance by 50%. Unless CCP handsout more information then this game will flop. Oh and Inb4 you get early beta access by purchasing the "merc pack" from CCP. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7781	Posted - 2016.04.21 19:50:00 - [79] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: So 1 picture and basically just rehashed assets from DUST, I can see where this is going. Dust has always been the basis for the bigger game. Nova is that bigger game. The anti-tunnel snake taskforce has assembled
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4881	Posted - 2016.04.21 19:56:00 - [80] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: So 1 picture and basically just rehashed assets from DUST, I can see where this is going. Dust has always been the basis for the bigger game. Nova is that bigger game. Exactly, they will build on what they learned from Dust and actually get the game right from the start this time. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw

Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7781	Posted - 2016.04.21 19:57:00 - [81] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: They removed vehicles cause the normal player is either too stupid or ignorant to take care of em so the solution is to eliminate everything that "annoyed" the casual player. Which means they take the game into space where you dont need vehicles at all to move around. I probs can sum it up like this: -Redline got annoying? Removed -Vehicles are too hard to kill/balance? Removed -Snipers that sit in the redline? No problem cause redline doesnt exist anymore -High ground tactical uplinks? Not possible cause no more Dropships -Orbital strikes from eve? Nope not gonna work inside of a spaceship/station -PC fights will probs be replaced with capturing stations/citadells instead of beeing on a planet -Complex fitting? Nah casuals cant deal with that so they streamline it down to suit, gun and a equipment -game modes are just going to be copy pasted from COD. So they rip the stuff out that made the game unique and replace it with casual friendly COD elements. Hmm i wonder how thats gonna workout cause ya know we all know how "good" COD clones are received on the gaming market. Todays gaming scene is all about of beeing unique and fun to play. Since the first thing is allready out of the question it basically reduces the success chance by 50%. Unless CCP handsout more information then this game will flop. Oh and Inb4 you get early beta access by purchasing the "merc pack" from CCP. It's a tech demo, you ******* window-licker. But no, the full game will no longer have a redline, because it's intended to have an open-world layout. The anti-tunnel snake taskforce has assembled
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4883	Posted - 2016.04.21 19:58:00 - [82] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: They removed vehicles cause the normal player is either too stupid or ignorant to take care of em so the solution is to eliminate everything that "annoyed" the casual player. Which means they take the game into space where you dont need vehicles at all to move around. I probs can sum it up like this: -Redline got annoying? Removed -Vehicles are too hard to kill/balance? Removed -Snipers that sit in the redline? No problem cause redline doesnt exist anymore -High ground tactical uplinks? Not possible cause no more Dropships -Orbital strikes from eve? Nope not gonna work inside of a spaceship/station -PC fights will probs be replaced with capturing stations/citadells instead of beeing on a planet -Complex fitting? Nah casuals cant deal with that so they streamline it down to suit, gun and a equipment -game modes are just going to be copy pasted from COD. So they rip the stuff out that made the game unique and replace it with casual friendly COD elements. Hmm i wonder how thats gonna workout cause ya know we all know how "good" COD clones are received on the gaming market. Todays gaming scene is all about of beeing unique and fun to play. Since the first thing is allready out of the question it basically reduces the success chance by 50%. Unless CCP handsout more information then this game will flop. Oh and Inb4 you get early beta access by purchasing the "merc pack" from CCP. It's a tech demo, you ******* window-licker. But no, the full game will no longer have a redline, because it's intended to have an open-world layout. Yes, in fact Rattati himself said that the ultimate goal is a sandbox. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2984	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:00:00 - [83] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Roy Xkillerz wrote: Seems our friends on fanfest decides the fate off this game and also the feedback. But honestly I agreed making a solid game first getting all the gameplay mechanics right and then make it bigger. It took years to make counter strike global offensive good. So far I am agreeding with their decisions but of course I hope more mmo immersion later on. Planet building etc and free roaming pve salvaging you know what I mean. All of this. While the future isn't 100% certain, remember that no one the community actually played "Legion." Everyone here can (and some already have:) played Nova. If the game is playable, CCP should already make the demo available for Dust Veterans. Not Fanfest only. They want feedback after all, right? The most obvious feedback they are already getting: Don't turn back on the MMO stuff, but expand on it. Th ebiggest problem the community currently has is not, that Nova is currently in such a basic state, but that, apparently, CCP is only aiming for this and nothing more. I highly doubt most of us have a PC that could run it in the very unoptimized state that it is most likely in. Hopefully someone at fanfest is able to answer my thread requesting info on what the PCs which the demos are running on look like to try to get an idea if an alpha release would even be viable any time soon. It's just unreal engine 4... the engine itself is optimized. You don't need a magically ultra PC to run that. Even if Nova itself isn't that optimized, you can scale down graphics and it would probably be playable on most PCs. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Skihids Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 3643	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:01:00 - [84] - Quote If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. What I don't understand is why CCP hasn't written a basic press release with that information for this event. They have to know what would happen in the forums if they simply showed a bare bones tech demo and said "We are concentrating on FPS and not MMO". If they have plans, they should have been posted on these forums. How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up?
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4883	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:05:00 - [85] - Quote Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. What I don't understand is why CCP hasn't written a basic press release with that information for this event. They have to know what would happen in the forums if they simply showed a bare bones tech demo and said "We are concentrating on FPS and not MMO". If they have plans, they should have been posted on these forums. How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up? They probably wanted it to be some big surprise or something like that. I don't blame them for it. I'm sure there will be something from the devs on the forums within the week. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
Skihids Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 3644	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:30:00 - [86] - Quote I get that Fanfest is a very poor venu for talking about Nova. It's filled with EO players who want to hear about EO. However they could have done a simultaneous reveal here on the forum explaining where they are now (simple tech demo) and what their vision is (supposedly most of the original promise). It should be obvious that saying what they have so far was going to cause people to assume the worst (a dumbed down lobby shooter). What could be preventing them from presenting a broad outline? How could that be in any way worse than stirring up the sh*tstorm that they have?
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4696	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:33:00 - [87] - Quote Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. What I don't understand is why CCP hasn't written a basic press release with that information for this event. They have to know what would happen in the forums if they simply showed a bare bones tech demo and said "We are concentrating on FPS and not MMO". If they have plans, they should have been posted on these forums. How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up? If the CPM is anything i am deeply worried, excited proberly means it will be shite and from current videos it is, confidence will mean CCP has not got a clue, indepth will mean that all options have been taken away and MMO = 6v6 at this point. Rouge wedding anyone? I would rarther take an opinion from a crackhead called jim and a talking gerbil than a bunch of yes idiots who do less than nothing while being some of the worst players of the game and have been elected by less than 1% of the playerbase because they are not really needed and everyone knows that. Quote: How difficult could that be given they had weeks to write something up? Very difficult, communication is impossible for them and CCP. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Skihids Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 3644	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:36:00 - [88] - Quote I suppose that I've been spoiled by the flood of information coming out of Star Citizen. SC is like Niagra Falls to CCP's dripping faucet.
AldnoahZero Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 46	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:41:00 - [89] - Quote Skihids wrote: If the CPM is excited I am hopeful. CPM were useless since CPM 0, who did zero for the game and playerbase. One guy resigned, one used their position to take PCP districts, and another was removed due to not bothering to post or play. How can you trust that?
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1893	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:52:00 - [90] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: It's a tech demo, you ******* window-licker. But no, the full game will no longer have a redline, because it's intended to have an open-world layout. Fighting in spaceship with set objectives and spawns with small corridors isnt open world. Open world games are like GTAV, far Cry4, Just Cause etc and as a prime example Planetside 2. Sure it might be a tech demo but its in a appearently playable state at the fanfest. So yeah i feel entitled enough to not be delusional fanboy who swallows everything from CCP in a desperate attempt to replace Dust. To further elaborate about the open world thing i probs imagine you just gonna select a random planet, which then has a certain map assigned to it which is going to repeat itself numereus times. If the transition from one area to another isnt seamless its not open world. You should be more cautious cause for all i know CCP went onto full blown greed mode. Look at eve online where you pay for your sub (in some way or another) and yet its getting bombarded with micro transactions. Now imagine how bad this gonna get on this "new" F2P game on PC? Im skeptical until CCP shows me more how this whole thing is going to work otherwise you can title it "COD in space". Which ironically might happend with this years COD release. Besides the more critics/feedback they get the more of a chance you have to change something. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.



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