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Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:23:00 - [1] - Quote What do you all define as being "scrub"? I ask because I am hard pressed to think of anything that should be described this way, other than a tactic that exposes you to zero risk. I'm not asking what tactics define scrub, mind you, I'm asking the actual definition, not examples. Most of what people call "scrub" are easy to use, hard to counter tactics. I personally don't see this as a negative - these are built into the game and therefore to me are legitimate tactics - they make me work harder to improve; they are a challenge. Please help me understand why someone who complains about "scrub" tactics is anything other than someone who is upset that they got beat with tactics that are easy to master? I am not a fan of the phrase "adapt or die", but to me, we should learn to counter these types of tactics. We should use them to become better - to learn new ways to engage the enemy. I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:25:00 - [2] - Quote scrub noun a semiabrasive cosmetic lotion applied to the face or body in order to cleanse the skin. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:26:00 - [3] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: scrub noun a semiabrasive cosmetic lotion applied to the face or body in order to cleanse the skin. ^ I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:32:00 - [4] - Quote Scrub: anybody who relies on any combination of elements that, at present, are overpowered and out of sync with gameplay as a whole then switch to new elements as those become off balance rather than stick with certain elements they already trained and practice with to become genuinely better at it. This does ruin the general gameplay and limits variety as players gravitate toward easy win elements for power wins rather than bringing the full selection of elements into gameplay. Hence, why DUST would die even if it was a properly developed game otherwise. To see an at least halfway properly designed game, see EVE Online. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
Living Rock 523 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 151	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:35:00 - [5] - Quote Scrub: a guy who can't get no love from TLC.
benandjerrys WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.02.21 03:14:00 - [6] - Quote Living Rock 523 wrote: Scrub: a guy who can't get no love from TLC. This. Gåæ The butthurt is strong #kisstheringmh
Lord Vahzz 58	Posted - 2016.02.21 03:23:00 - [7] - Quote rings your doorbell and runs There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.21 03:58:00 - [8] - Quote This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.21 04:07:00 - [9] - Quote So basically it is someone who does not try to win. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Medical Crash Systematic Engineers Unlimited 512	Posted - 2016.02.21 05:04:00 - [10] - Quote players who clean my tub My YouTube Channel

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.21 05:29:00 - [11] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: So basically it is someone who does not try to win. Not quite so black and white. The scrub believes he is trying to win, and on some level he is. But he is restricted by excuses, rage, or fictional rules in his head that only apply within his own self-created purgatory. He will try to win, but he will never try to improve. All the while not understanding why he can't beat opponents who possess a superior mindset. A person who doesn't try to win at all isn't a scrub persay, but simply a casual player who couldn't care less. They don't make excuses for themselves and are simply content to be inferior players. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Blind Nojoy G I A N T 173	Posted - 2016.02.21 05:58:00 - [12] - Quote I would refer to Mr. Zitro's book for this definition. Guaranteed to be in the glossary. Hell, there's probably a whole chapter dedicated to the topic.
V1RONXSS X-SENSE Security 105	Posted - 2016.02.21 06:17:00 - [13] - Quote Living Rock 523 wrote: Scrub: a guy who can't get no love from TLC. :D "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack. o7
Immortal John Ripper 30	Posted - 2016.02.21 06:23:00 - [14] - Quote I am a scrub and I am proud. General John Ripper 4 CPM! Tell your friends, your dog, and your mom.
General John Ripper 30	Posted - 2016.02.21 06:23:00 - [15] - Quote I am a scrub and I am proud. General John Ripper 4 CPM! Tell your friends, your dog, and your mom.
TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.21 10:13:00 - [16] - Quote For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 540	Posted - 2016.02.21 11:12:00 - [17] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers. An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered. CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid. To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 540	Posted - 2016.02.21 11:32:00 - [18] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts I would agree with all of these, with the exception, under some circumstances, of: SNIPERS - during the match, a sniper allied to a squad can be very beneficial to that squad, and at the end of a match, snipers on the winning side can take out redlined players that are staying far back from the action, alternately, those on the losing side can still have some effect where otherwise they would be useless - some say they already are useless, but sniping is a valid game style, if used correctly in support of the team. Battle leavers - there are some situations where leaving the battle is the only option acceptable to the player concerned. I myself am a perpetual solo player. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players. RE Scouts are certainly scrubs, add to that jumpy RE heavies. This game has just gotten ridiculous.
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2016.02.21 13:12:00 - [19] - Quote A scrub is someone who doesn't subscribe to me, I created the phrase "don't be a scrub, give us a sub!" >>>MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL!<<<
DRAKEST HOUR 175	Posted - 2016.02.21 15:09:00 - [20] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. Oh my god. Thanks Captain Long Wind. The blah, blah, blah is strong with this one. Have fun up there above everyone else, and have another cup of arrogance. Cheers buttface. "A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production.Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

Lord Vahzz 63	Posted - 2016.02.21 15:42:00 - [21] - Quote V1RONXSS wrote: Living Rock 523 wrote: Scrub: a guy who can't get no love from TLC. Or anybody using Proton Gear. P.S. Dustys u r best community anyways :D It is Photon you scrub There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.21 16:43:00 - [22] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts Perhaps we should expand "scrub" to those that don't read the OP, and give a response not requested as well? I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 682	Posted - 2016.02.21 16:55:00 - [23] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts All milita gear users All sicas and soma users All advanced gear users All b!tches using glitches.....like cloaked melee, lav glitch You play this game to skill up to the best gear possible but then people b!tch and cry about proto stomping. It's not the fuking gear. Its team work , communication, and experience. Team work OP like a muthufuka. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.21 18:25:00 - [24] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 686	Posted - 2016.02.21 18:38:00 - [25] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lol be nice. You're talking to a vet with 64m sp and no proto suit. Jajajajajaja jajajajaj "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 332	Posted - 2016.02.21 19:47:00 - [26] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers. An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered. CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid. To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer. Spoken like a true scrub. Myos are bad because they kill you. "Real" skill means not using jump mods. You don't have to play a game with rules you don't like. But when you make up your own rules and get mad at people who don't recognize your own rule set then you are a scrub. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 333	Posted - 2016.02.21 19:56:00 - [27] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: . There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players. Aka I leave battle when I am getting my ass kicked. Because the other players are bad. Do you say this stuff out loud before you type it? Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.02.21 20:07:00 - [28] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts I would agree with all of these, with the exception, under some circumstances, of: SNIPERS - during the match, a sniper allied to a squad can be very beneficial to that squad, and at the end of a match, snipers on the winning side can take out redlined players that are staying far back from the action, alternately, those on the losing side can still have some effect where otherwise they would be useless - some say they already are useless, but sniping is a valid game style, if used correctly in support of the team. Battle leavers - there are some situations where leaving the battle is the only option acceptable to the player concerned. I myself am a perpetual solo player. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players. RE Scouts are certainly scrubs, add to that jumpy RE heavies. This game has just gotten ridiculous. So according to you & toomany, me, as an RE scout, is a scrub. But according to Himiko and Babershop and linky I'm free/properly bastardly. Yeah starting to like where this thread is going. Cause reasons. Please do tell I'm getting curious. SilentChaozz on PS4 Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke
DEV Stupid Head Imprint Data Solutions 11	Posted - 2016.02.21 20:12:00 - [29] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers. An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered. CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid. To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer. +1
DEV Stupid Head Imprint Data Solutions 13	Posted - 2016.02.21 20:28:00 - [30] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. This is correct ^ It is also FACT that there are players who frequently use hit detection glitches / exploits and also have a network connection advantage These advantages are compounded by so called "scrub tactics" This is interesting because technically I am the scrub for complaining about players who knowingly use exploits or having these advantages. ( These problems are not corrected by CCP and therefore should be accepted as valid tactics) My complaints have nothing to do with me not putting in an effort to compete.

Medical Crash Systematic Engineers Unlimited 515	Posted - 2016.02.21 21:02:00 - [31] - Quote I'm glad Photon gear will sun be no moar. U thought Officer gear was bad? dis photon gear is on another level. Half Photon half chuck norriz half manbearpig My YouTube Channel
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.21 21:45:00 - [32] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.21 21:46:00 - [33] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Lol be nice. You're talking to a vet with 64m sp and no proto suit. Jajajajajaja jajajajaj Mistakes were made. Don't laugh at me, how would you like to be me, and I you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -.- #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.21 21:47:00 - [34] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. Lol, didn't they teach you reading comprehension when you went to school? You are not a squad for using lesser gear. You are a scrub for making excuses for losing rather than trying to find what YOU did wrong and trying to fix it. Scrubs are those that cant adapt nor overcome. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.21 21:49:00 - [35] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. Lol, didn't they teach you reading comprehension when you went to school? You are not a squad for using lesser gear. You are a scrub for making excuses for losing rather than trying to find what YOU did wrong and trying to fix it. Scrubs are those that cant adapt nor overcome. Ohhh I am in a very bad fricking mood right now. -.-* What I did wrong? YEAH I FORGOT TO INVEST IN PROTO SUITS, SHOOT ME BECAUSE I LIKE MAKING A PROFIT EVERY MATCH AND GATHERING AS MUCH ISK AS POSSIBLE. I'm a bit of a money hoarder... hmpf #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 695	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:01:00 - [36] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Lol be nice. You're talking to a vet with 64m sp and no proto suit. Jajajajajaja jajajajaj Mistakes were made. Don't laugh at me, how would you like to be me, and I you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -.- Lol I'm only missing 4 or 5 suits not proto'd. Plus all cores maxed and every weapon with Atleast proficiency 3. Plus 25 mill sp into vehicles. Sucks to be you scrubby McScrubster. I am running low on isk..just dipped down to 300m. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:04:00 - [37] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. Lol, didn't they teach you reading comprehension when you went to school? You are not a squad for using lesser gear. You are a scrub for making excuses for losing rather than trying to find what YOU did wrong and trying to fix it. Scrubs are those that cant adapt nor overcome. Ohhh I am in a very bad fricking mood right now. -.-* What I did wrong? YEAH I FORGOT TO INVEST IN PROTO SUITS, SHOOT ME BECAUSE I LIKE MAKING A PROFIT EVERY MATCH AND GATHERING AS MUCH ISK AS POSSIBLE. I'm a bit of a money hoarder... hmpf I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:05:00 - [38] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers. An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered. CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid. To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer. Spoken like a true scrub. Myos are bad because they kill you. "Real" skill means not using jump mods. You don't have to play a game with rules you don't like. But when you make up your own rules and get mad at people who don't recognize your own rule set then you are a scrub. This to me is also the very definition of a scrub; a player who will defend a bad mechanic as if it is set in stone. Rules? Myo jumping was a late addition to a dying game that was thrown in without any real plan to follow up on that element. This was done after he maps were redesigned to already limit things already in the game like sniper LoS etc. the maps did not get redesigned to accomodate this new mechanic. What's more is at myo jumping isa cheap and easy addition that circumvents other, more engaging gameplay. A game will suffer under this mentality of dismissing a game element because you simply think others are complaining due to character death. No, there are those of us who are obviously looking beyond our own k/dr to the overall game design. It's like throwing a kitten into amgroup of children hyped up on espresso. You d*mn well know what they're going to gravitate to. Might as well just shut down the amusement park when that happens. STOP JUSTIFYING THE COTTON CANDY STAND IN FRONT OF THE RAW LIVER AND ONIONS RESTAURANT! CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 640	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:07:00 - [39] - Quote If you have to ask what a scrub is....... then you probably are one.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:10:00 - [40] - Quote The definition of scrub is that Breakin Stuff guy. He's a Scrublord. On a more serious note, I call everyone a scrub, but the real ones are the ones who don't ever lose because they got outplayed, or out-tactic'd. If you pull away all of the gimmick fits and clearly whacked stuff, they're the ones who in a perfectly balanced game will claim that every death they have earned is because the other guys are cheating, the other gear is unfairly superior, squad gangups are inherently unfair, etc. Anything to avoid admitting they might have done something stupid and paid the price for it, or admitting their opponent might actually be... you know... good at the game? Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.

TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:10:00 - [41] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. I'm actually a pretty decent player, sure, I learned that going solo against a proto calass with an ACR is a bad idea. #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:11:00 - [42] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. I'm actually a pretty decent player, sure, I learned that going solo against a proto calass with an ACR is a bad idea. Then good, you are already getting better. Picking your engagements is one sign of a good player. Don't attack him head on. Once he gets distracted, then that is your chance. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 696	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:11:00 - [43] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: [quote=XxBlazikenxX][quote=TooMany I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. Too late for him now. He's a lost cause. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:15:00 - [44] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. I'm actually a pretty decent player, sure, I learned that going solo against a proto calass with an ACR is a bad idea. I do it anyway. LEMMING POWER! Fastest way to get your counter to a tactic up is to die in DUST. It's why I do stupid crap like stand in front of a maddie, not moving and shooting them with something harmless. They always fall for it. Thirty seconds later: FORGEGUN! Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 696	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:18:00 - [45] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. I'm actually a pretty decent player, sure, I learned that going solo against a proto calass with an ACR is a bad idea. I do it anyway. LEMMING POWER! Fastest way to get your counter to a tactic up is to die in DUST. It's why I do stupid crap like stand in front of a maddie, not moving and shooting them with something harmless. They always fall for it. Thirty seconds later: FORGEGUN! I got love mail and called a tryhard scrub because I killed a proto Maddie with an alldins. I laughed my ass off "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:18:00 - [46] - Quote ZOMG YOU HAD GOOD WEAPON AND USED IT! HOW DARE YOU USE THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE JOB!!! Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.22 00:14:00 - [47] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. I'm sorry but it's true. There are no personal feelings behind this -- you are, by definition, a scrub. Until you re-evaluate how you view each session, this will continue to be true. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:03:00 - [48] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. He is saying you are a scrub because you believe you are helping by limiting your choices on purpose, and that once you accept there are valid ways to win other than those you have morally deemed acceptable you will no longer be a scrub. In fact, your doggedness in your reply if proof of what Himoko says, if you subscribe to Himoko's definition of "scrub". I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 546	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:04:00 - [49] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers. An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered. CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid. To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer. Spoken like a true scrub. Myos are bad because they kill you. "Real" skill means not using jump mods. You don't have to play a game with rules you don't like. But when you make up your own rules and get mad at people who don't recognize your own rule set then you are a scrub. That's right I don't have to play a game I don't like and when I encounter this vermin, I usually leave the match. If I stay it's to see if I can find a way to make some progress regardless of their ridiculous tactics, usually using one of my BPO fits, which they hate because they're inexpensive and therefore they don't really do me any damage. Scum.
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:06:00 - [50] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. I'm actually a pretty decent player, sure, I learned that going solo against a proto calass with an ACR is a bad idea. It's not actually a bad idea; a Proto CalAss gets no bonuses to an Assault Combat Rifle. I think you might have mean ARR, and ACR. I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*

Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 546	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:07:00 - [51] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: . There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players. Aka I leave battle when I am getting my ass kicked. Because the other players are bad. Do you say this stuff out loud before you type it? Absolutely! I really hate the garbage that does this sort of stuff in the game. It's ruining the game, but of course, you can't blame the vermin that use these tactics, blame CCP for allowing it in the first place. I'm proud of the fact that I leave matches where this cr@p goes on. People who fight using exploits are scum, and I won't play against them. I certainly won't use their tactics, and I'll happily leave the game before I do.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:09:00 - [52] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. He is saying you are a scrub because you believe you are helping by limiting your choices on purpose, and that once you accept there are valid ways to win other than those you have morally deemed acceptable you will no longer be a scrub. In fact, your doggedness in your reply if proof of what Himoko says, if you subscribe to Himoko's definition of "scrub". It's not my definition. It's THE definition. The very origin of the word in the context of gaming as coined by Sirlin back in the arcade era. Credit where credit is due, I didn't create the term. I just know its meaning, and how people improperly use it as an insult. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 546	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:11:00 - [53] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts I would agree with all of these, with the exception, under some circumstances, of: SNIPERS - during the match, a sniper allied to a squad can be very beneficial to that squad, and at the end of a match, snipers on the winning side can take out redlined players that are staying far back from the action, alternately, those on the losing side can still have some effect where otherwise they would be useless - some say they already are useless, but sniping is a valid game style, if used correctly in support of the team. Battle leavers - there are some situations where leaving the battle is the only option acceptable to the player concerned. I myself am a perpetual solo player. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players. RE Scouts are certainly scrubs, add to that jumpy RE heavies. This game has just gotten ridiculous. So according to you & toomany, me, as an RE scout, is a scrub. But according to Himiko and Babershop and linky I'm free/properly bastardly. Yeah starting to like where this thread is going. Cause reasons. Please do tell I'm getting curious. What you use are exploits, pure and simple. Yes, that makes you a scrub by my definition. Anyone who deliberately persistently uses exploits is a scrub. Don't tell me that RE Scouts are a valid entity in the game. They are dirty scum because of how they fight, which is to not fight at all. Rather, they're just cowards. Yes CCP has allowed this in the game, more to their shame. But people who actually stoop to using it and all other such cowardly contrivances are scum.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 546	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:18:00 - [54] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. For the record, I have no problem with people using whatever gear they want, and can fit. The problem I have is not with those people but with the way CCP creates matches which are unbalanced and tend to put all such people on the one team. Those people tend to squad and matchmaking puts all the squads together on the one team first before starting to fill the other team with them. This is presumably to allow squads to team up together. Whatever the reason, the result is one side with squads full of proto gear and well organised, against the other side with usually solos and noobs. How anyone can say that's a balanced or enjoyable battle, I don't know! Even if as a solo I find myself filling a hole in the stomper side, it's a very unenjoyable experience because I simply don't get any targets before someone else takes them out. There is nothing wrong with proto gear. I myself am working towards it. The problem is the battles.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 546	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:29:00 - [55] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. He is saying you are a scrub because you believe you are helping by limiting your choices on purpose, and that once you accept there are valid ways to win other than those you have morally deemed acceptable you will no longer be a scrub. In fact, your doggedness in your reply if proof of what Himoko says, if you subscribe to Himoko's definition of "scrub". It's not my definition. It's THE definition. The very origin of the word in the context of gaming as coined by Sirlin back in the arcade era. Credit where credit is due, I didn't create the term. I just know its meaning, and how people improperly use it as an insult. Yes, they do improperly use it as an insult. Unfortunately, this is the way people will understand the use of the word. I have my own definition of scrub because I do think of it as an insult, but don't ascribe to the way people use it indiscriminately for anyone they don't like.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.02.22 03:47:00 - [56] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts I would agree with all of these, with the exception, under some circumstances, of: SNIPERS - during the match, a sniper allied to a squad can be very beneficial to that squad, and at the end of a match, snipers on the winning side can take out redlined players that are staying far back from the action, alternately, those on the losing side can still have some effect where otherwise they would be useless - some say they already are useless, but sniping is a valid game style, if used correctly in support of the team. Battle leavers - there are some situations where leaving the battle is the only option acceptable to the player concerned. I myself am a perpetual solo player. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players. RE Scouts are certainly scrubs, add to that jumpy RE heavies. This game has just gotten ridiculous. So according to you & toomany, me, as an RE scout, is a scrub. But according to Himiko and Babershop and linky I'm free/properly bastardly. Yeah starting to like where this thread is going. Cause reasons. Please do tell I'm getting curious. What you use are exploits, pure and simple. Yes, that makes you a scrub by my definition. Anyone who deliberately persistently uses exploits is a scrub. Don't tell me that RE Scouts are a valid entity in the game. They are dirty scum because of how they fight, which is to not fight at all. Rather, they're just cowards. Yes CCP has allowed this in the game, more to their shame. But people who actually stoop to using it and all other such cowardly contrivances are scum. I wanted to point this out too, i have my own rules when i use certain things so in a way im a prisoner too. I don't find anything wrong with using REs, unless it breaks my very small, but still have, rules. 1) Won't use REs on a single target, REs are for groups and objectives 2) Only use REs on a single target if that person is hacking a letter that i cant reach in time So in a PC, we need to hack a point in city, 2 in 2 out, we each have 2, 1 in 1 out, were about even, but to increase winning chances, we need this point. Group of sents, logis, need to be cleared out/distracted to get a speedhack in, K. What do i do as a PC scout? I could try shotgunning them all, but people know that sound, second that first shot goes off someones turning jumping away and firing. OK, so i could try knife, quieter, more damage, but, my knives don't work in PC usually. Blue shield flare, no damage, people turning jumping away and firing. So what do i do? Toss a RE maybe two with a flux, clear them or most of them out along with 20 uplinks that are placed. We now have an opening to hack and dig in as i call it to defend the hack. 3 outta four letters, let them have there HP but don't let them have access to the city, our HP is secure, there locked out, now they have to try a different tactic. Blah blah blah etc etc. Another self prison, MAs with bons & REs take over scout role. Usually if a scouts job is needed, send in a MA to do it better. To me, thats stupid and scrublike, making me a scrub i guess. Feel fortunate that my corp uses me in PCs as a scout when an assault or an officer scout will do it better blah blah at least before i got sick and haven't been on. I could go on on the way my self prisoner mind thinks were REs are and aren't acceptable but i don't feel like it, and i gave one tiny slice of being a PC bastard. SilentChaozz on PS4 Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2016.02.22 03:54:00 - [57] - Quote Then who the fck is supposed to use remote explosives other than scouts? Commandoes? Assualts? Logis? Screw that sh!t. I'm not gonna waste my time blasting through 1400ehp on some sentinel with only a scrambler pistol. I'm gonna scoot on by,drop the re,and splatter him against the wall then hack the point. KNEEL!,BEFORE THE EMPIRE,KNEEL!
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.02.22 04:18:00 - [58] - Quote ^ Apparently no one is supposed to use them cause abusing exploits yo. Especailly scouts yo. SilentChaozz on PS4 Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2016.02.22 04:38:00 - [59] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: ^ Apparently no one is supposed to use them cause abusing exploits yo. Especailly scouts yo. Don't forget re point traps when your team is all rushing another point and can't defend another point. Or when there's an unattended enemy vehicle that needs to go kaboom. Or planting them in a common choke point where foot/vehicle traffic is high. Or the infamous equipment remote explosive sandwich trap. All good uses. KNEEL!,BEFORE THE EMPIRE,KNEEL!
DozersMouse XIII Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2016.02.22 04:42:00 - [60] - Quote All my gaming buddies are scrubs I'm a scrub Anybody who played in mordu's trials is a scrub Your mom yup she's a scrub Try harder tryhards. You know that guy that hacks the turret installation on the first spawn? He's a scrub Aurum plated booty pistol

Clifford 747 Nox Aeterna Security 6	Posted - 2016.02.22 05:39:00 - [61] - Quote Thukker Contact Grenades with Ishukone Nanohives Also anybody who is a smurf. (creates a new character solely for 1-2 academy stompings) Proud Scrub since 2007 A sentinel walks into a bar. Because he can't jump over it. (Better get out those Myofibril stimulants!)
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.22 10:23:00 - [62] - Quote What I've learned from this thread is that you're all scrubs. #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.22 12:30:00 - [63] - Quote What I've learned from this thread is that trying to win is apparently shameful. I find this hilariously ironic in the most delightful ways. Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 336	Posted - 2016.02.22 15:18:00 - [64] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: That's right I don't have to play a game I don't like and when I encounter this vermin, I usually leave the match. If I stay it's to see if I can find a way to make some progress regardless of their ridiculous tactics, usually using one of my BPO fits, which they hate because they're inexpensive and therefore they don't really do me any damage. You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.02.22 16:06:00 - [65] - Quote Press Attache wrote: You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Adding to this... if a tactic is genuinely broken then use it! Abuse it all to hell. If Rattati reviews data and sees the horrifically broken KDR that jumpy mass drivers are causing then balancing will happen to reign it in. Look at it like you are helping Rattati gather important data, not cheesing your way to 50 KDR. #PortDust514
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.22 16:12:00 - [66] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: That's right I don't have to play a game I don't like and when I encounter this vermin, I usually leave the match. If I stay it's to see if I can find a way to make some progress regardless of their ridiculous tactics, usually using one of my BPO fits, which they hate because they're inexpensive and therefore they don't really do me any damage. You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. I would argue that your attitude is toxic, not their opinion. You can disagree with someone's opinion without the conversation devolving to what you just did. I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.22 16:14:00 - [67] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: What I've learned from this thread is that trying to win is apparently shameful. I find this hilariously ironic in the most delightful ways. This is my take as well; if this gamer weren't on its deathbed, then perhaps CCP would fix things that they determine are broken. In my mind, if you feel it is broken, then do as Ripley said and prove with stats it is broken. But since the game is all but dead, it doesn't matter. CCP won't say anything is broken, so it's not. And since they won't change anything, there is no reason to complain. Use it. I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 337	Posted - 2016.02.22 16:40:00 - [68] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: ] I would argue that your attitude is toxic, not their opinion. You can disagree with someone's opinion without the conversation devolving to what you just did. Pretty sure I am well established as an *******. Should be a orange tag under my name. Doesn't change the fact that sparky needs to either alter his mindset or change games. Or be happy as a casual. Would you not heap scorn upon someone who showed up to a track meet barefoot and calling those in shoes scrubs after they lose? What would you do if you were sitting at a table, and the person across called you scum for putting hotels on the Oranges after free parking? Would you give them a polite dissertation on the structures of rules and the affirmative consent of starting to play a game under said rules? Or would you ask them if they were special then tell them to enjoy playing the new solo monopoly at their own house? It takes a village to raise a child, and not everyone needs to be supportive. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2016.02.22 16:50:00 - [69] - Quote Everyone in the game is a Skraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.02.22 17:24:00 - [70] - Quote Press Attache wrote: What would you do if you were sitting at a table, and the person across called you scum for putting hotels on the Oranges after free parking? Would you give them a polite dissertation on the structures of rules and the affirmative consent of starting to play a game under said rules? It would depend on if I wanted them to learn something or not. If I didn't care if they learned or not and just wanted to hear the sound of my own voice then I probably be a ****. #PortDust514

Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.22 17:27:00 - [71] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: ] I would argue that your attitude is toxic, not their opinion. You can disagree with someone's opinion without the conversation devolving to what you just did. Pretty sure I am well established as an *****. Should be a orange tag under my name. Doesn't change the fact that sparky needs to either alter his mindset or change games. Or be happy as a casual. Would you not heap scorn upon someone who showed up to a track meet barefoot and calling those in shoes scrubs after they lose? What would you do if you were sitting at a table, and the person across called you scum for putting hotels on the Oranges after free parking? Would you give them a polite dissertation on the structures of rules and the affirmative consent of starting to play a game under said rules? Or would you ask them if they were special then tell them to enjoy playing the new solo monopoly at their own house? It takes a village to raise a child, and not everyone needs to be supportive. I'm not talking about him - I'm talking about you. You should change your mindset. Your toxicity is one of the reasons these forums are horrible to visit. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning I am Havok, Incorruptible**
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.22 17:36:00 - [72] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: What I've learned from this thread is that trying to win is apparently shameful. I find this hilariously ironic in the most delightful ways. That, and lots of people are scrubs. A vast majority, in fact. Frightening at times. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.02.22 17:47:00 - [73] - Quote I didn't like jumping mass driver's. Nor the frame rate drops in general. So I moved on. Its not ******* difficult guy's. The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 338	Posted - 2016.02.22 17:49:00 - [74] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Press Attache wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: ] I would argue that your attitude is toxic, not their opinion. You can disagree with someone's opinion without the conversation devolving to what you just did. Pretty sure I am well established as an *******. Should be a orange tag under my name. Doesn't change the fact that sparky needs to either alter his mindset or change games. Or be happy as a casual. Would you not heap scorn upon someone who showed up to a track meet barefoot and calling those in shoes scrubs after they lose? What would you do if you were sitting at a table, and the person across called you scum for putting hotels on the Oranges after free parking? Would you give them a polite dissertation on the structures of rules and the affirmative consent of starting to play a game under said rules? Or would you ask them if they were special then tell them to enjoy playing the new solo monopoly at their own house? It takes a village to raise a child, and not everyone needs to be supportive. I'm not talking about him - I'm talking about you. You should change your mindset. Your toxicity is one of the reasons these forums are horrible to visit. Look, you want to run around putting helmets on everyone and making sure their mittens are tied up tight, you go right ahead. I'll open the door and let the ones who can't figure out clothing freeze to death. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 338	Posted - 2016.02.22 17:51:00 - [75] - Quote noob cavman wrote: I didn't like jumping mass driver's. Nor the frame rate drops in general. So I moved on. Its not ******* difficult guy's. I'm saying. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.02.22 18:00:00 - [76] - Quote Also Alena Asakura. You may be the silliest duster I have ever seen. You've beaten KTB... Wow. I'm amazed and saddened by that realization. The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6	Posted - 2016.02.22 19:51:00 - [77] - Quote I like jumpy mass drivers..just lets me know who has no gungame..and RE scouts aren't a big deal The only exploit I'm aware of is the limbo and ghost lav
Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.22 20:08:00 - [78] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: That's right I don't have to play a game I don't like and when I encounter this vermin, I usually leave the match. If I stay it's to see if I can find a way to make some progress regardless of their ridiculous tactics, usually using one of my BPO fits, which they hate because they're inexpensive and therefore they don't really do me any damage. You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Shut the ** up you disgusting scrub. You use the myofib mass driver combo not because you are trying to win a match but because you have ** for gungame and have to resort to an easy mode tactic to make yourself feel better about yourself. Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.02.22 21:02:00 - [79] - Quote In some ways both sides are right IMO. But since that usually is impossible cause reasons, im just gonna grab some popcorn and watch this burn. SilentChaozz on PS4 Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke As scrub scout I is
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.22 21:06:00 - [80] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: That's right I don't have to play a game I don't like and when I encounter this vermin, I usually leave the match. If I stay it's to see if I can find a way to make some progress regardless of their ridiculous tactics, usually using one of my BPO fits, which they hate because they're inexpensive and therefore they don't really do me any damage. You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Shut the ** up you disgusting scrub. You use the myofib mass driver combo not because you are trying to win a match but because you have ** for gungame and have to resort to an easy mode tactic to make yourself feel better about yourself. Actually from what you just said, you are the exact definition of a scrub. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys

Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.22 21:24:00 - [81] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: That's right I don't have to play a game I don't like and when I encounter this vermin, I usually leave the match. If I stay it's to see if I can find a way to make some progress regardless of their ridiculous tactics, usually using one of my BPO fits, which they hate because they're inexpensive and therefore they don't really do me any damage. You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Shut the ** up you disgusting scrub. You use the myofib mass driver combo not because you are trying to win a match but because you have ** for gungame and have to resort to an easy mode tactic to make yourself feel better about yourself. Actually from what you just said, you are the exact definition of a scrub. I'm a scrub because I say the myofib massdriver combo is easy mode? I read through this entire thread and no one mentioned anything about a scrub being someone who calls someone out for using an easy tactic instead of focusing on bettering their gungame. Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.02.22 21:50:00 - [82] - Quote I think you're a whining wankpuffin. The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.22 22:16:00 - [83] - Quote Please close this damned thread... We're just arguing like idiots for no reason at all. #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2	Posted - 2016.02.22 22:21:00 - [84] - Quote Definition of scrub : viperx sniper <3 Game over.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.22 22:56:00 - [85] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I read through this entire thread and no one mentioned anything about a scrub being someone who calls someone out for using an easy tactic instead of focusing on bettering their gungame. Good one Summa, but I believe that falls under the "making excuses for poor performance" blanket. gungame. there's a useless metric in the context of a combined-arms first person shooter encompassing direct-fire, indirect-fire and area-of-effect weapons. I always found the insistence that anyone who did not just us a rifle of some kind and strafing being somehow lesser amusing as ****. Whenever someone tries to call me out for using (insert unfavored tactic here) I laugh, because I still won because you couldn't exploit the weaknesses of my chosen tactics and methods. Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.
Medical Crash Systematic Engineers Unlimited 516	Posted - 2016.02.22 23:19:00 - [86] - Quote 2 skrub or not 2 skrub? THAT is the question. My YouTube Channel
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 00:09:00 - [87] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Press Attache wrote: You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Shut the ** up you disgusting scrub. You use the myofib mass driver combo not because you are trying to win a match but because you have ** for gungame and have to resort to an easy mode tactic to make yourself feel better about yourself. Actually from what you just said, you are the exact definition of a scrub. I'm a scrub because I say the myofib massdriver combo is easy mode? I read through this entire thread and no one mentioned anything about a scrub being someone who calls someone out for using an easy tactic instead of focusing on bettering their gungame. No, you are focusing on what the enemy is doing that is killing you rather than what you can do better. And also, have you ever actually used the myofib + mass driver combo? It is not as easy as some people would imagine. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 344	Posted - 2016.02.23 00:29:00 - [88] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: That's right I don't have to play a game I don't like and when I encounter this vermin, I usually leave the match. If I stay it's to see if I can find a way to make some progress regardless of their ridiculous tactics, usually using one of my BPO fits, which they hate because they're inexpensive and therefore they don't really do me any damage. You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Shut the ** up you disgusting scrub. You use the myofib mass driver combo not because you are trying to win a match but because you have ** for gungame and have to resort to an easy mode tactic to make yourself feel better about yourself. Except I don't even have mass drivers skilled into, and never have. I find explosive area of effect weapons to be pretty limp wristed. However, just I don't use them, doesn't mean I call people who do scrubs. Thanks for making ridiculous assumptions though. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 00:41:00 - [89] - Quote But you have used 700+ armour gal assault XD. And im called noob!? The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 00:48:00 - [90] - Quote Anyone can run anything they want and they aren't a scrub. But the minute that they blame their loss on "OP gear" is when they become a scrub. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys

Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 346	Posted - 2016.02.23 00:50:00 - [91] - Quote noob cavman wrote: But you have used 700+ armour gal assault XD. And im called noob!? Bro, do you even stack complex plates? I think I had 900 armour on there at one point, before I skilled into reps. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 00:53:00 - [92] - Quote Press Attache wrote: noob cavman wrote: But you have used 700+ armour gal assault XD. And im called noob!? Bro, do you even stack complex plates? I think I had 900 armour on there at one point, before I skilled into reps. Sweet ******* christ! I remember that. You we're so slow my min heavy was out running you XD. Good times. The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.23 02:48:00 - [93] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Summa Militum wrote: I read through this entire thread and no one mentioned anything about a scrub being someone who calls someone out for using an easy tactic instead of focusing on bettering their gungame. Good one Summa, but I believe that falls under the "making excuses for poor performance" blanket. gungame. there's a useless metric in the context of a combined-arms first person shooter encompassing direct-fire, indirect-fire and area-of-effect weapons. I always found the insistence that anyone who did not just us a rifle of some kind and strafing being somehow lesser amusing as ****. Whenever someone tries to call me out for using (insert unfavored tactic here) I laugh, because I still won because you couldn't exploit the weaknesses of my chosen tactics and methods. But I can shoot the jumpies out of the sky so I'm not exactly making any excuse for poor performance. And shut your mouth about exploiting weaknesses of a scruby tactic. Scruby tactics exploit the weakness we all have which is being teamed up with blueberries who can't handle this game. Many of us who hate scruby tactics can counter those scrubby tactics just fine but we can't offset the damage done when our blueberries are being slaughtered by a tactic that has a ridiculously high payout when you look at how little skill is involved in carrying out said scrubiness. Many times I have run up on a jumpy armored assault with a mass driver who manages to slaughter half a dozen blueberries before I and, on average, one other person out of the ten blueberries in the vicinity are able to kill it. Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 02:53:00 - [94] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Summa Militum wrote: I read through this entire thread and no one mentioned anything about a scrub being someone who calls someone out for using an easy tactic instead of focusing on bettering their gungame. Good one Summa, but I believe that falls under the "making excuses for poor performance" blanket. gungame. there's a useless metric in the context of a combined-arms first person shooter encompassing direct-fire, indirect-fire and area-of-effect weapons. I always found the insistence that anyone who did not just us a rifle of some kind and strafing being somehow lesser amusing as ****. Whenever someone tries to call me out for using (insert unfavored tactic here) I laugh, because I still won because you couldn't exploit the weaknesses of my chosen tactics and methods. But I can shoot the jumpies out of the sky so I'm not exactly making any excuse for poor performance. And shut your mouth about exploiting weaknesses of a scruby tactic. Scruby tactics exploit the weakness we all have which is being teamed up with blueberries who can't handle this game. Many of us who hate scruby tactics can counter those scrubby tactics just fine but we can't offset the damage done when our blueberries are being slaughtered by a tactic that has a ridiculously high payout when you look at how little skill is involved in carrying out said scrubiness. Many times I have run up on a jumpy armored assault with a mass driver who manages to slaughter half a dozen blueberries before I and, on average, one other person out of the ten blueberries in the vicinity are able to kill it. There is no such thing as a "scrubby tactic". At the end of the day, it is still a tactic, not an exploit, not a scrubby tactic, just a bonafided tactic. And any tactic that helps win the game is good, because winning is what matters. Those that do their best, bring out their best gear, their best suits, or the opposite of scrubs. Those that complain about them are the scrubs. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.23 02:53:00 - [95] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Press Attache wrote: You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Shut the ** up you disgusting scrub. You use the myofib mass driver combo not because you are trying to win a match but because you have for gungame and have to resort to an easy mode tactic to make yourself feel better about yourself. Actually from what you just said, you are the exact definition of a scrub. I'm a scrub because I say the myofib massdriver combo is easy mode? I read through this entire thread and no one mentioned anything about a scrub being someone who calls someone out for using an easy tactic instead of focusing on bettering their gungame. No, you are focusing on what the enemy is doing that is killing you rather than what you can do better. And also, have you ever actually used the myofib + mass driver combo? It is not as easy as some people would imagine. I used the myofib and Plasma Cannon combo before and it made me feel like a scrubby piece of **. Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 02:57:00 - [96] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Shut the ** up you disgusting scrub. You use the myofib mass driver combo not because you are trying to win a match but because you have for gungame and have to resort to an easy mode tactic to make yourself feel better about yourself. Actually from what you just said, you are the exact definition of a scrub. I'm a scrub because I say the myofib massdriver combo is easy mode? I read through this entire thread and no one mentioned anything about a scrub being someone who calls someone out for using an easy tactic instead of focusing on bettering their gungame. No, you are focusing on what the enemy is doing that is killing you rather than what you can do better. And also, have you ever actually used the myofib + mass driver combo? It is not as easy as some people would imagine. I used the myofib and Plasma Cannon combo before and it made me feel like a scrubby piece of **. It doesn't matter what you felt. Did your team win? If the answer was yes, that's all that mattered. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.23 02:59:00 - [97] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Summa Militum wrote: I read through this entire thread and no one mentioned anything about a scrub being someone who calls someone out for using an easy tactic instead of focusing on bettering their gungame. Good one Summa, but I believe that falls under the "making excuses for poor performance" blanket. gungame. there's a useless metric in the context of a combined-arms first person shooter encompassing direct-fire, indirect-fire and area-of-effect weapons. I always found the insistence that anyone who did not just us a rifle of some kind and strafing being somehow lesser amusing as ****. Whenever someone tries to call me out for using (insert unfavored tactic here) I laugh, because I still won because you couldn't exploit the weaknesses of my chosen tactics and methods. But I can shoot the jumpies out of the sky so I'm not exactly making any excuse for poor performance. And shut your mouth about exploiting weaknesses of a scruby tactic. Scruby tactics exploit the weakness we all have which is being teamed up with blueberries who can't handle this game. Many of us who hate scruby tactics can counter those scrubby tactics just fine but we can't offset the damage done when our blueberries are being slaughtered by a tactic that has a ridiculously high payout when you look at how little skill is involved in carrying out said scrubiness. Many times I have run up on a jumpy armored assault with a mass driver who manages to slaughter half a dozen blueberries before I and, on average, one other person out of the ten blueberries in the vicinity are able to kill it. There is no such thing as a "scrubby tactic". At the end of the day, it is still a tactic, not an exploit, not a scrubby tactic, just a bonafided tactic. And any tactic that helps win the game is good, because winning is what matters. Those that do their best, bring out their best gear, their best suits, or the opposite of scrubs. Those that complain about them are the scrubs. There is a such thing as trashy players with no gungame who jump onto the easymode bandwagon in hopes of making themselves feel like they are actually good at this game and capable of accomplishing something. What should we call these people if scrub is a word more suited for the likes of people like me? Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:06:00 - [98] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Good one Summa, but I believe that falls under the "making excuses for poor performance" blanket. gungame. there's a useless metric in the context of a combined-arms first person shooter encompassing direct-fire, indirect-fire and area-of-effect weapons. I always found the insistence that anyone who did not just us a rifle of some kind and strafing being somehow lesser amusing as ****. Whenever someone tries to call me out for using (insert unfavored tactic here) I laugh, because I still won because you couldn't exploit the weaknesses of my chosen tactics and methods. But I can shoot the jumpies out of the sky so I'm not exactly making any excuse for poor performance. And shut your mouth about exploiting weaknesses of a scruby tactic. Scruby tactics exploit the weakness we all have which is being teamed up with blueberries who can't handle this game. Many of us who hate scruby tactics can counter those scrubby tactics just fine but we can't offset the damage done when our blueberries are being slaughtered by a tactic that has a ridiculously high payout when you look at how little skill is involved in carrying out said scrubiness. Many times I have run up on a jumpy armored assault with a mass driver who manages to slaughter half a dozen blueberries before I and, on average, one other person out of the ten blueberries in the vicinity are able to kill it. There is no such thing as a "scrubby tactic". At the end of the day, it is still a tactic, not an exploit, not a scrubby tactic, just a bonafided tactic. And any tactic that helps win the game is good, because winning is what matters. Those that do their best, bring out their best gear, their best suits, or the opposite of scrubs. Those that complain about them are the scrubs. There is a such thing as trashy players with no gungame who jump onto the easymode bandwagon in hopes of making themselves feel like they are actually good at this game and capable of accomplishing something. What should we call these people if scrub is a word more suited for the likes of people like me? Well, if they win, than we can call them tryhards, though technically that word is both an insult and a compliment. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 554	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:27:00 - [99] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: What I've learned from this thread is that trying to win is apparently shameful. I find this hilariously ironic in the most delightful ways. Trying to win is not shameful. Doing anything to win certainly is. CCP in their wisdom have allowed some very disgusting tactics to prevail in this game, which is shameful for them, but more shameful for the people who use them. Any CPM that condones this sort of garbage needs to take a good hard look at themselves and their sense of honour.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:29:00 - [100] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: What I've learned from this thread is that trying to win is apparently shameful. I find this hilariously ironic in the most delightful ways. Trying to win is not shameful. Doing anything to win certainly is. CCP in their wisdom have allowed some very disgusting tactics to prevail in this game, which is shameful for them, but more shameful for the people who use them. Any CPM that condones this sort of garbage needs to take a good hard look at themselves and their sense of honour. No, doing anything to win is not shameful. Also, this is a video game, there is no such thing as honor. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys

Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 556	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:29:00 - [101] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: That's right I don't have to play a game I don't like and when I encounter this vermin, I usually leave the match. If I stay it's to see if I can find a way to make some progress regardless of their ridiculous tactics, usually using one of my BPO fits, which they hate because they're inexpensive and therefore they don't really do me any damage. You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. They ARE ruining the game. Yes, they're here. They shouldn't be, by rights because there's simply no counter to them, and by CCP's own stated goals, they never introduce anything into their games without a counter. But the real problem is people who choose to use these tactics. Yes, they ruin the game. The way the ruin the game is that people like me will simply stop playing. You'd better hope I'm in the minority. Just as well the game is ending soon. With all the stompers in pubs instead of FW and PC where they should be, it's hardly worth playing anymore. And who, exactly is saying I'm losing??! Last I looked I'm going quite well for someone who only really started playing 8 months ago. I count it as a positive that I manage to keep making progress regardless of this sort of stuff.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:31:00 - [102] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: That's right I don't have to play a game I don't like and when I encounter this vermin, I usually leave the match. If I stay it's to see if I can find a way to make some progress regardless of their ridiculous tactics, usually using one of my BPO fits, which they hate because they're inexpensive and therefore they don't really do me any damage. You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. They ARE ruining the game. Yes, they're here. They shouldn't be, by rights because there's simply no counter to them, and by CCP's own stated goals, they never introduce anything into their games without a counter. But the real problem is people who choose to use these tactics. Yes, they ruin the game. The way the ruin the game is that people like me will simply stop playing. You'd better hope I'm in the minority. You are the scrub by saying there is no counter. There is a counter to everything, nothing is unbeatable, even the lav glitch for crying out loud has a counter. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 556	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:34:00 - [103] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Press Attache wrote: You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Adding to this... if a tactic is genuinely broken then use it! Abuse it all to hell. If Rattati reviews data and sees the horrifically broken KDR that jumpy mass drivers are causing then balancing will happen to reign it in. Look at it like you are helping Rattati gather important data, not cheesing your way to 50 KDR. What? This is something CCP did deliberately. It suits someone in CCP or CPM to have it this way or it wouldn't be.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:37:00 - [104] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Press Attache wrote: You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Adding to this... if a tactic is genuinely broken then use it! Abuse it all to hell. If Rattati reviews data and sees the horrifically broken KDR that jumpy mass drivers are causing then balancing will happen to reign it in. Look at it like you are helping Rattati gather important data, not cheesing your way to 50 KDR. What? This is something CCP did deliberately. It suits someone in CCP or CPM to have it this way or it wouldn't be. It is sad that you think that things are in the game because of the selfish desires of the CPM. The CPM (at least this one) have only ever wanted good for this game and nothing else. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 558	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:40:00 - [105] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Also Alena Asakura. You may be the silliest duster I have ever seen. You've beaten KTB... Wow. I'm amazed and saddened by that realization. What, because I don't like what CCP has done to the game and what people are doing with it? I have a right to my opinion. I also have a right to leave when I want, which I will do when I want. One player leaving isn't going to be a problem. If there are a LOT of players like me, that's a problem. Oh, that's except for the fact that the game is dead now anyway. :)
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 558	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:46:00 - [106] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Press Attache wrote: You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Adding to this... if a tactic is genuinely broken then use it! Abuse it all to hell. If Rattati reviews data and sees the horrifically broken KDR that jumpy mass drivers are causing then balancing will happen to reign it in. Look at it like you are helping Rattati gather important data, not cheesing your way to 50 KDR. What? This is something CCP did deliberately. It suits someone in CCP or CPM to have it this way or it wouldn't be. It is sad that you think that things are in the game because of the selfish desires of the CPM. The CPM (at least this one) have only ever wanted good for this game and nothing else. I would say the evidence speaks for itself. If you think that says good things, then so be it.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:49:00 - [107] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Press Attache wrote: You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Adding to this... if a tactic is genuinely broken then use it! Abuse it all to hell. If Rattati reviews data and sees the horrifically broken KDR that jumpy mass drivers are causing then balancing will happen to reign it in. Look at it like you are helping Rattati gather important data, not cheesing your way to 50 KDR. What? This is something CCP did deliberately. It suits someone in CCP or CPM to have it this way or it wouldn't be. It is sad that you think that things are in the game because of the selfish desires of the CPM. The CPM (at least this one) have only ever wanted good for this game and nothing else. I would say the evidence speaks for itself. If you think that says good things, then so be it. Yes, it most certaintly does say good thing. "If" it was OP, then there would be data to prove it was, and it would be nerf. But I doubt there is any data to prove it is OP. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:54:00 - [108] - Quote Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at the idea that something is in the game because "It suits one of the CPM's to have it there." Jesus I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks for the giggle. Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 560	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:15:00 - [109] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at the idea that something is in the game because "It suits one of the CPM's to have it there." Jesus I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks for the giggle. Breakin, laugh all you like. It won't change the fact that this game is becoming less and less enjoyable for people who try to play fairly. For the record, I said "someone" not "one of". For all I know it could be all of CPM that thinks these disgusting tactics are fine. CPM tends to be fairly advanced players who advocate what they believe to be good things for the game. This becomes a problem with they lose sight of things like NPE, which is crucial for increasing player numbers. As I've said before, it's just as well this game is ending. I'll add that in its present form it would not likely last too much longer. The fact that pubs have degenerated into an all out slug fest for proto players, with stomping now being *condoned* in the name of burning everything before the end, says something. Why are they in pubs? Why not in FW where at least the opponents would put up a fair fight? No, they're in pubs where they can slaughter everyone that can't afford proto gear or doesn't have the skills for it. Where else are noobs to go? FW is all but shut down because all the protos have now joined the pub stompers. That doesn't have much to do with "scrubbery" other than the tactics that are being used, but the fact that these twerps are slaughtering near defenseless noobs probably would fit my own definition of "scrubbery". It's pathetic.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 560	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:22:00 - [110] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Press Attache wrote: You are both missing my point, and further clarifying that you are in fact a scrub. You may not like it, I may not like it, but jumpy mass drivers are here, they are within the rules, and people will and should use them. The difference between us is that I don't call someone a name for playing within the rules. They are not ruining the game. They are trying to win, which is a hell of a lot more than you do. If I had to choose between you and any other blue dot, you would be sitting on the bench, because no one who wants to win wants people with a bunch of e-honour constructs on their team. You keep making up your own rules, and still losing, should make for tons of fun in whatever game you take your toxic mindset to next. Adding to this... if a tactic is genuinely broken then use it! Abuse it all to hell. If Rattati reviews data and sees the horrifically broken KDR that jumpy mass drivers are causing then balancing will happen to reign it in. Look at it like you are helping Rattati gather important data, not cheesing your way to 50 KDR. What? This is something CCP did deliberately. It suits someone in CCP or CPM to have it this way or it wouldn't be. It is sad that you think that things are in the game because of the selfish desires of the CPM. The CPM (at least this one) have only ever wanted good for this game and nothing else. Blaziken, yes, CPM generally do want what's good for the game (including EvE), at least according to their way of thinking. But there have been many controversial changes to EvE in the past, at CPM's behest, which prove that they don't have the well being of all in mind all the time. I would say humbly that the same sort of thing goes on with Dust, if the current game is viewed as evidence.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:26:00 - [111] - Quote Just because we may or may not like something does not mean the devs will go with our suggestions for, or to the contrary. This delusion people have that we somehow are allowed to dictate game balance and development is almost adorable in it's naivete. Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:37:00 - [112] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Just because we may or may not like something does not mean the devs will go with our suggestions for, or to the contrary. This delusion people have that we somehow are allowed to dictate game balance and development is almost adorable in it's naivete. I'm pretty sure the CSM in Eve Online are laughing their asses off as well. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:38:00 - [113] - Quote Sadly I have a friend in real life who fits this very definition of a "scrub" and it involves him playing Smash on the WiiU. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 560	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:39:00 - [114] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Just because we may or may not like something does not mean the devs will go with our suggestions for, or to the contrary. This delusion people have that we somehow are allowed to dictate game balance and development is almost adorable in it's naivete. The game speaks for itself. It's less and less enjoyable every day. You think that conforms to the concept of CCP or CPM wanting what's good for the game? It may be good for certain people who benefit from it, not for the poor cannon fodder that are being blasted in pubs.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 05:11:00 - [115] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Just because we may or may not like something does not mean the devs will go with our suggestions for, or to the contrary. This delusion people have that we somehow are allowed to dictate game balance and development is almost adorable in it's naivete. The game speaks for itself. It's less and less enjoyable every day. You think that conforms to the concept of CCP or CPM wanting what's good for the game? It may be good for certain people who benefit from it, not for the poor cannon fodder that are being blasted in pubs. I don't know about you, but I'm actually having more fun now than before. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2016.02.23 05:15:00 - [116] - Quote Look at this. My whackers still clean,no clumps of scrubs,nothing. And if you order now,I'll throw in a second whacker,absolutely free. KNEEL!,BEFORE THE EMPIRE,KNEEL!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.23 05:16:00 - [117] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Just because we may or may not like something does not mean the devs will go with our suggestions for, or to the contrary. This delusion people have that we somehow are allowed to dictate game balance and development is almost adorable in it's naivete. The game speaks for itself. It's less and less enjoyable every day. You think that conforms to the concept of CCP or CPM wanting what's good for the game? It may be good for certain people who benefit from it, not for the poor cannon fodder that are being blasted in pubs. That's nice, have a cookie. It's the same cookie we've all been nibbling on since 2014, so it's a little stale. might take some getting used to. If you want to make the game better, go earn the skills to become a developer and do better. Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.23 05:24:00 - [118] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Sadly I have a friend in real life who fits this very definition of a "scrub" and it involves him playing Smash on the WiiU. It's the most common in fighting games, hence the original coining of the term during the arcade era with street fighter 2. Smash is considered a fighting game, though mechanically it has more in common with sumo than anything else. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 563	Posted - 2016.02.23 13:30:00 - [119] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Just because we may or may not like something does not mean the devs will go with our suggestions for, or to the contrary. This delusion people have that we somehow are allowed to dictate game balance and development is almost adorable in it's naivete. The game speaks for itself. It's less and less enjoyable every day. You think that conforms to the concept of CCP or CPM wanting what's good for the game? It may be good for certain people who benefit from it, not for the poor cannon fodder that are being blasted in pubs. That's nice, have a cookie. It's the same cookie we've all been nibbling on since 2014, so it's a little stale. might take some getting used to. If you want to make the game better, go earn the skills to become a developer and do better. Your attitude speaks volumes. You see nothing wrong with the way the game is going. You deserve the game to die.
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 346	Posted - 2016.02.23 14:32:00 - [120] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at the idea that something is in the game because "It suits one of the CPM's to have it there." Jesus I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks for the giggle. Breakin, laugh all you like. It won't change the fact that this game is becoming less and less enjoyable for people who try to play fairly. For the record, I said "someone" not "one of". For all I know it could be all of CPM that thinks these disgusting tactics are fine. CPM tends to be fairly advanced players who advocate what they believe to be good things for the game. This becomes a problem with they lose sight of things like NPE, which is crucial for increasing player numbers. As I've said before, it's just as well this game is ending. I'll add that in its present form it would not likely last too much longer. The fact that pubs have degenerated into an all out slug fest for proto players, with stomping now being *condoned* in the name of burning everything before the end, says something. Why are they in pubs? Why not in FW where at least the opponents would put up a fair fight? No, they're in pubs where they can slaughter everyone that can't afford proto gear or doesn't have the skills for it. Where else are noobs to go? FW is all but shut down because all the protos have now joined the pub stompers. That doesn't have much to do with "scrubbery" other than the tactics that are being used, but the fact that these twerps are slaughtering near defenseless noobs probably would fit my own definition of "scrubbery". It's pathetic. "People who play fairly" aka losers. Do you not shoot other players in the back? That would be unfair. Put an re on a wall and run around a corner to bait someone? Totally unfair. Dropping an OB? Unfair. Did you invest SP into suits and weapons? Congrats, now you can't shoot starter fits, that wouldn't be fair. Don't you see how your silly ruleset ruins more than it helps? You are playing a competitive lobby shooter and complaining because people won't give you duels at sunset with pistols and paces. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.

Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 346	Posted - 2016.02.23 14:34:00 - [121] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Just because we may or may not like something does not mean the devs will go with our suggestions for, or to the contrary. This delusion people have that we somehow are allowed to dictate game balance and development is almost adorable in it's naivete. The game speaks for itself. It's less and less enjoyable every day. You think that conforms to the concept of CCP or CPM wanting what's good for the game? It may be good for certain people who benefit from it, not for the poor cannon fodder that are being blasted in pubs. That's nice, have a cookie. It's the same cookie we've all been nibbling on since 2014, so it's a little stale. might take some getting used to. If you want to make the game better, go earn the skills to become a developer and do better. Your attitude speaks volumes. You see nothing wrong with the way the game is going. You deserve the game to die. The game was dead before you even downloaded it. It's funny that you whine like a girl about jumpy mass drivers. If you had seen the flaylock in its prime you wouldn't have lasted a week. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 14:58:00 - [122] - Quote Or cal logi supreme. The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.23 16:33:00 - [123] - Quote Or Himiko when he cared. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.02.23 16:36:00 - [124] - Quote I still have scars from when you cared daddy himi. The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.23 23:15:00 - [125] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Just because we may or may not like something does not mean the devs will go with our suggestions for, or to the contrary. This delusion people have that we somehow are allowed to dictate game balance and development is almost adorable in it's naivete. The game speaks for itself. It's less and less enjoyable every day. You think that conforms to the concept of CCP or CPM wanting what's good for the game? It may be good for certain people who benefit from it, not for the poor cannon fodder that are being blasted in pubs. That's nice, have a cookie. It's the same cookie we've all been nibbling on since 2014, so it's a little stale. might take some getting used to. If you want to make the game better, go earn the skills to become a developer and do better. Your attitude speaks volumes. You see nothing wrong with the way the game is going. You deserve the game to die. It mustbe nice, being able to intrinsically know what's going on in my mind, or the other CPMs. Which is more likely, that we don't care? Or is it more likely that I feel zero obligation to justify myself to people who spit, whine and make accusations? My posting history from beta onward should answer that question. Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 00:59:00 - [126] - Quote There's a difference between what's actually wrong, and what you THINK fits the definition of wrong. But blurred lines yo, can't tell reality from fantasy, IMHO THAT is what makes you a scrub. Shouldve brought popcorn from the first page, for that i am a scrub TYVM. As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' SilentChaozz on PS4 Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke As scrub scout I is
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2016.02.24 01:14:00 - [127] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper. Embrace your destiny.
Lord Vahzz 85	Posted - 2016.02.24 01:24:00 - [128] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: "I am mitten's errand boy" Well said, scrub. There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 01:38:00 - [129] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." Woah woah woah. Back away for a second there. Heavies counter myofib anything too you know CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.24 01:40:00 - [130] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing. Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life

PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 01:52:00 - [131] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing. He said there needs to be more counters yo, and have you tried a gorilla (min) sent with kincats & AHMG? Matches a scout sprint speed last time i checked, like a scout with a giant hitbox, giant profile, and a HMG. Also, i love running my turtle sent and gorilla sent. SilentChaozz on PS4 Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke As scrub scout I is
Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.24 02:22:00 - [132] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, fck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing. He said there needs to be more counters yo, and have you tried a gorilla (min) sent with kincats & AHMG? Matches a scout sprint speed last time i checked, like a scout with a giant hitbox, giant profile, and a HMG. Also, i love running my turtle sent and gorilla sent. He just now mentioned that more counters should have been implemented yet in previous posts on this thread he was defending the myofib/mass driver combo saying there are ways to counter it...as in more than one way. I honestly feel like the majority of the people who defend the myofib/mass driver combo are people who either use the combo themselves or are people who consistently fight at range making it much easier for them to kill the jumpy while decreasing the chances of them having to deal with the jumpy in close range. The people who get screwed the most by the myofib/mass driver combo are those who consistently fight in CQC. Those of us who consistently fight in CQC put our ** on the line and take a lot of risks in order to accomplish what we are supposed to yet we have to deal with irrational ****** from people whenever we mention how pathetically scrubby the myofib/mass driver combo is. Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 02:22:00 - [133] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing. And like those people who overdampened their suits, people that use three myofibs are also gimping their suit. Trust me, I run a myofib suit once in a while and it feels like I'm made out of paper, even more so than a scout. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 564	Posted - 2016.02.24 02:34:00 - [134] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at the idea that something is in the game because "It suits one of the CPM's to have it there." Jesus I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks for the giggle. Breakin, laugh all you like. It won't change the fact that this game is becoming less and less enjoyable for people who try to play fairly. For the record, I said "someone" not "one of". For all I know it could be all of CPM that thinks these disgusting tactics are fine. CPM tends to be fairly advanced players who advocate what they believe to be good things for the game. This becomes a problem with they lose sight of things like NPE, which is crucial for increasing player numbers. As I've said before, it's just as well this game is ending. I'll add that in its present form it would not likely last too much longer. The fact that pubs have degenerated into an all out slug fest for proto players, with stomping now being *condoned* in the name of burning everything before the end, says something. Why are they in pubs? Why not in FW where at least the opponents would put up a fair fight? No, they're in pubs where they can slaughter everyone that can't afford proto gear or doesn't have the skills for it. Where else are noobs to go? FW is all but shut down because all the protos have now joined the pub stompers. That doesn't have much to do with "scrubbery" other than the tactics that are being used, but the fact that these twerps are slaughtering near defenseless noobs probably would fit my own definition of "scrubbery". It's pathetic. "People who play fairly" aka losers. Do you not shoot other players in the back? That would be unfair. Put an re on a wall and run around a corner to bait someone? Totally unfair. Dropping an OB? Unfair. Did you invest SP into suits and weapons? Congrats, now you can't shoot starter fits, that wouldn't be fair. Don't you see how your silly ruleset ruins more than it helps? You are playing a competitive lobby shooter and complaining because people won't give you duels at sunset with pistols and paces. At the risk of perpetuating this pointless discussion any further, when I really want to turn my back on the whole sorry mess, I feel I do need to answer at least these points. There is a gradation of "fairness". It's said "All's fair in love and war". But I guess I would look rather to what is ethical rather than simply the subjective concept of fairness. Yes, people who play fairly are seen as losers to a vast number of people these days, probably the majority. I count myself as one of these "losers", and quite proudly. I'd rather be a loser by playing fairly than a winner by any means available. That said, I'm hardly "losing", with close on 200m ISK and over 20m SP in only 8 months. I have 4 State LP suits paid for by earning them in CFW, and 2 State LP skins to go with them, which can only be earnt, not bought, as they're not transferable. Yes I shoot other players in the back as they do me. Yes it's "unfair" by some sets of rules, but in warfare, it's not. Again, that saying "All's fair in love and war" comes up. But there's no ridiculous advantage here - all I have is a weapon, often a militia one, Caldari only (because that's another of the ridiculous rules I've imposed on myself) and a fleeing target, usually someone who fired at me first and then runs because I'm beating them. I've never used REs to bait anyone. Yes, that's unfair but it's a valid tactic, scrubby though it may be. I've fallen for it many times, but have learnt to see the signs, and avoid following people for that reason. OB? Orbital strike? Not sure what that is, but if it's an orbital strike, then as far as I can see it's unfair when it's bought with AUR, which to me contributes to the pay-to-win aspect of this game. Yes, I bought one once, to see how to deploy it. I don't think I killed anyone with it. Yes, of course I invested SP into suits and weapons, but primarily into core skills which make all suits, weapons, modules and equipment better. Yes, I shoot starter fits, or at least I assume I do, but I wouldn't know because I don't exactly make a habit of checking first to see whether I can shoot them or not since they're usually shooting me, and if I don't shoot back, I'll die. In any case I mostly run starter MLT suits myself anyway. I find them fast, flexible, cheap (obviously) and totally adequate to what I do. I don't mind dying and have no KDR obsession like most seem to. I'm usually the one making the suicide run to take out some of the enemy camping the point when everyone else is either hiding in the shadows or sitting on a hill with a sniper rifle. You can do that quite well in a MLT suit, you know, and it costs almost nothing. As for my ruleset "ruining" more than it helps, no, it doesn't. It actually makes me a better player than I would be if I allowed myself to follow the easy road. Players that stick to a purpose and resolutely follow a plan to excel in whatever they choose will ultimately be better than players that do FOTM or easy road. At the end of the day, when they nerf whatever is FOTM, I'll still have my skills in my chosen race and racial weaponry. I will continue to play by my rules and leave matches whenever I encounter the sort of garbage that uses scrubby tactics. I refuse to add to their kills, at least any more than the one they get me with. They can rail against that all they like. If they nerf being able to leave matches, I'll simply stop playing. That will always be my ultimate answer to this game if it gets too ridiculous and disgusting.
Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.24 02:58:00 - [135] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing. And like those people who overdampened their suits, people that use three myofibs are also gimping their suit. Trust me, I run a myofib suit once in a while and it feels like I'm made out of paper, even more so than a scout. The only people I will accept saying that stacking myofibs gimps your suit are the people who run Caldari and some Scouts. I have seen 700+ armor Assault Dropsuits using the jumpy/myofib combo and you would have to be a fool to think that dropsuit is gimped because of stacked myofibs. Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 350	Posted - 2016.02.24 04:51:00 - [136] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Press Attache wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at the idea that something is in the game because "It suits one of the CPM's to have it there." Jesus I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks for the giggle. Breakin, laugh all you like. It won't change the fact that this game is becoming less and less enjoyable for people who try to play fairly. For the record, I said "someone" not "one of". For all I know it could be all of CPM that thinks these disgusting tactics are fine. CPM tends to be fairly advanced players who advocate what they believe to be good things for the game. This becomes a problem with they lose sight of things like NPE, which is crucial for increasing player numbers. As I've said before, it's just as well this game is ending. I'll add that in its present form it would not likely last too much longer. The fact that pubs have degenerated into an all out slug fest for proto players, with stomping now being *condoned* in the name of burning everything before the end, says something. Why are they in pubs? Why not in FW where at least the opponents would put up a fair fight? No, they're in pubs where they can slaughter everyone that can't afford proto gear or doesn't have the skills for it. Where else are noobs to go? FW is all but shut down because all the protos have now joined the pub stompers. That doesn't have much to do with "scrubbery" other than the tactics that are being used, but the fact that these twerps are slaughtering near defenseless noobs probably would fit my own definition of "scrubbery". It's pathetic. "People who play fairly" aka losers. Do you not shoot other players in the back? That would be unfair. Put an re on a wall and run around a corner to bait someone? Totally unfair. Dropping an OB? Unfair. Did you invest SP into suits and weapons? Congrats, now you can't shoot starter fits, that wouldn't be fair. Don't you see how your silly ruleset ruins more than it helps? You are playing a competitive lobby shooter and complaining because people won't give you duels at sunset with pistols and paces. At the risk of perpetuating this pointless discussion any further, when I really want to turn my back on the whole sorry mess, I feel I do need to answer at least these points. There is a gradation of "fairness". It's said "All's fair in love and war". But I guess I would look rather to what is ethical rather than simply the subjective concept of fairness. Yes, people who play fairly are seen as losers to a vast number of people these days, probably the majority. I count myself as one of these "losers", and quite proudly. I'd rather be a loser by playing fairly than a winner by any means available. That said, I'm hardly "losing", with close on 200m ISK and over 20m SP in only 8 months. I have 4 State LP suits paid for by earning them in CFW, and 2 State LP skins to go with them, which can only be earnt, not bought, as they're not transferable. Yes I shoot other players in the back as they do me. Yes it's "unfair" by some sets of rules, but in warfare, it's not. Again, that saying "All's fair in love and war" comes up. But there's no ridiculous advantage here - all I have is a weapon, often a militia one, Caldari only (because that's another of the ridiculous rules I've imposed on myself) and a fleeing target, usually someone who fired at me first and then runs because I'm beating them. I've never used REs to bait anyone. Yes, that's unfair but it's a valid tactic, scrubby though it may be. I've fallen for it many times, but have learnt to see the signs, and avoid following people for that reason. OB? Orbital strike? Not sure what that is, but if it's an orbital strike, then as far as I can see it's unfair when it's bought with AUR, which to me contributes to the pay-to-win aspect of this game. Yes, I bought one once, to see how to deploy it. I don't think I killed anyone with it. Yes, of course I invested SP into suits and weapons, but primarily into core skills which make all suits, weapons, modules and equipment better. Yes, I shoot starter fits, or at least I assume I do, but I wouldn't know because I don't exactly make a habit of checking first to see whether I can shoot them or not since they're usually shooting me, and if I don't shoot back, I'll die. In any case I mostly run starter MLT suits myself anyway. I find them fast, flexible, cheap (obviously) and totally adequate to what I do. I don't mind dying and have no KDR obsession like most seem to. I'm usually the one making the suicide run to take out some of the enemy camping the point when everyone else is either hiding in the shadows or sitting on a hill with a sniper rifle. You can do that quite well in a MLT suit, you know, and it costs almost nothing. As for my ruleset "ruining" more than it helps, no, it doesn't. It actually makes me a better player than I would be if I allowed myself to follow the easy road. Players that stick to a purpose and resolutely follow a plan to excel in whatever they choose will ultimately be better than players that do FOTM or easy road. At the end of the day, when they nerf whatever is FOTM, I'll still have my skills in my chosen race and racial weaponry. I will continue to play by my rules and leave matches whenever I encounter the sort of garbage that uses scrubby tactics. I refuse to add to their kills, at least any more than the one they get me with. They can rail against that all they like. If they nerf being able to leave matches, I'll simply stop playing. That will always be my ultimate answer to this game if it gets too ridiculous and disgusting. Look at the ridiculous mental contortions a scrub has to go through. Just absurd. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 15:37:00 - [137] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing. And like those people who overdampened their suits, people that use three myofibs are also gimping their suit. Trust me, I run a myofib suit once in a while and it feels like I'm made out of paper, even more so than a scout. The only people I will accept saying that stacking myofibs gimps your suit are the people who run Caldari and some Scouts. I have seen 700+ armor Assault Dropsuits using the jumpy/myofib combo and you would have to be a fool to think that dropsuit is gimped because of stacked myofibs. Still, it is gimped because while he does have myofibs, he does not have damage mods, he does not have good armor repair, and since he has 700 armor, he can not jump as high, nor as long. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.24 17:37:00 - [138] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Still, it is gimped because while he does have myofibs, he does not have damage mods, he does not have good armor repair, and since he has 700 armor, he can not jump as high, nor as long. You don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver. The use of myofibs does not limit your ability to increase armor repair rate nor does it limit your ability to equip Cardiac Regulators. 700+ armor assaults can still leap 20+ feet into the air at a speed faster than they can move in any other direction in the game. Armor has a very negligible impact on your jump height. Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 17:44:00 - [139] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Still, it is gimped because while he does have myofibs, he does not have damage mods, he does not have good armor repair, and since he has 700 armor, he can not jump as high, nor as long. You don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver. The use of myofibs does not limit your ability to increase armor repair rate nor does it limit your ability to equip Cardiac Regulators. 700+ armor assaults can still leap 20+ feet into the air at a speed faster than they can move in any other direction in the game. Armor has a very negligible impact on your jump height. Yeah, you don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver, you need aim, because unlike other weapons (minus plasma cannon), you can't just point somewhere and it will hit, you need to estimate distance, you need to estimate the speed of the target, you need to estimate the location of the target so that you don't miss. You don't need to do that with an Assault Rifle. Yes, the use of myofibs + the combo of 700+ armor does limit how many armor repairs or cardio regs you can put on so that argument is out of the water. Not only does armor effect your speed, but it also affects jump height. I would be surprised if people with 3 myofibs and 700+ armor could even jump 10 feet, much less 20+. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 731	Posted - 2016.02.24 17:48:00 - [140] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing. He said there needs to be more counters yo, and have you tried a gorilla (min) sent with kincats & AHMG? Matches a scout sprint speed last time i checked, like a scout with a giant hitbox, giant profile, and a HMG. Also, i love running my turtle sent and gorilla sent. Min sent with 3 complex myofibs, 1 Complex kincat, 1 Complex cardio and freedom ahmg. Jump with them and punch them in the bawls. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."

SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 733	Posted - 2016.02.24 17:50:00 - [141] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Still, it is gimped because while he does have myofibs, he does not have damage mods, he does not have good armor repair, and since he has 700 armor, he can not jump as high, nor as long. You don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver. The use of myofibs does not limit your ability to increase armor repair rate nor does it limit your ability to equip Cardiac Regulators. 700+ armor assaults can still leap 20+ feet into the air at a speed faster than they can move in any other direction in the game. Armor has a very negligible impact on your jump height. Jus messing around this morning I made a gk0 assault with 1038 armor and 3 complex myofibs with a proto weapon. Still juming almost as high as before "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 17:51:00 - [142] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing. He said there needs to be more counters yo, and have you tried a gorilla (min) sent with kincats & AHMG? Matches a scout sprint speed last time i checked, like a scout with a giant hitbox, giant profile, and a HMG. Also, i love running my turtle sent and gorilla sent. Min sent with 3 complex myofibs, 1 Complex kincat, 1 Complex cardio and freedom ahmg. Jump with them and punch them in the bawls. Actually a Min Heavy would work better for that considering it is faster than its sentinel counterpart. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 17:52:00 - [143] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Still, it is gimped because while he does have myofibs, he does not have damage mods, he does not have good armor repair, and since he has 700 armor, he can not jump as high, nor as long. You don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver. The use of myofibs does not limit your ability to increase armor repair rate nor does it limit your ability to equip Cardiac Regulators. 700+ armor assaults can still leap 20+ feet into the air at a speed faster than they can move in any other direction in the game. Armor has a very negligible impact on your jump height. Jus messing around this morning I made a gk0 assault with 1038 armor and 3 complex myofibs with a proto weapon. Still juming almost as high as before Almost you say. Now try 3 complex myofibs with no armor plates AT ALL and then try it with stacked armor plates. You will feel a CONSIDERABLE difference, both in speed and jump height. Not only that, but the jump height duration is also slowed, meaning that you are more vulnerable to being hit in the air. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 657	Posted - 2016.02.24 17:58:00 - [144] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts By that definition I'm a huge scrub HMG is my first love SR my Sancha
Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.24 19:27:00 - [145] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Still, it is gimped because while he does have myofibs, he does not have damage mods, he does not have good armor repair, and since he has 700 armor, he can not jump as high, nor as long. You don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver. The use of myofibs does not limit your ability to increase armor repair rate nor does it limit your ability to equip Cardiac Regulators. 700+ armor assaults can still leap 20+ feet into the air at a speed faster than they can move in any other direction in the game. Armor has a very negligible impact on your jump height. Yeah, you don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver, you need aim, because unlike other weapons (minus plasma cannon), you can't just point somewhere and it will hit, you need to estimate distance, you need to estimate the speed of the target, you need to estimate the location of the target so that you don't miss. You don't need to do that with an Assault Rifle. Yes, the use of myofibs + the combo of 700+ armor does limit how many armor repairs or cardio regs you can put on so that argument is out of the water. Not only does armor effect your speed, but it also affects jump height. I would be surprised if people with 3 myofibs and 700+ armor could even jump 10 feet, much less 20+. Are you just typing random thoughts or do you actually believe what you are typing? People who use the myofib/mass driver combo tend to engage enemies in CQC so they do not need to track the movement of the redberry anymore than any other person fighting in CQC with any other weapon. Also, the splash damage of the mass driver and the multiple rounds one can fire in rapid succession without having to reload provides a scenario where the user does not have to be accurate; all they have to do is spam mass driver rounds in the general vicinity of the redberry. It's pretty obvious you haven't a clue about what you are talking about. Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 20:05:00 - [146] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: As Nick Fury said slightly modified 'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.' In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing. He said there needs to be more counters yo, and have you tried a gorilla (min) sent with kincats & AHMG? Matches a scout sprint speed last time i checked, like a scout with a giant hitbox, giant profile, and a HMG. Also, i love running my turtle sent and gorilla sent. Min sent with 3 complex myofibs, 1 Complex kincat, 1 Complex cardio and freedom ahmg. Jump with them and punch them in the bawls. Forgot the myos but yeah, I also use a minmando for such, adding a shotgun & MD just to troll, or galmando, cause turtles can sprint too, plus bonus too shotgun. A CQC monster, just don't go engaging anyone outside of... 10ish meters? If i use my jumpy MA i use two toxins simply because i tried the jumpy MD/PLC, not a fan, not because of self imprisonment but it just doesn't fit my playstyle. Kinda like MA with SG isn't my playstyle but CA with SG is. I don't mind certain playstyles tweaked to what fits me usually. SilentChaozz on PS4 Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke As scrub scout I is
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 20:17:00 - [147] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Still, it is gimped because while he does have myofibs, he does not have damage mods, he does not have good armor repair, and since he has 700 armor, he can not jump as high, nor as long. You don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver. The use of myofibs does not limit your ability to increase armor repair rate nor does it limit your ability to equip Cardiac Regulators. 700+ armor assaults can still leap 20+ feet into the air at a speed faster than they can move in any other direction in the game. Armor has a very negligible impact on your jump height. Yeah, you don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver, you need aim, because unlike other weapons (minus plasma cannon), you can't just point somewhere and it will hit, you need to estimate distance, you need to estimate the speed of the target, you need to estimate the location of the target so that you don't miss. You don't need to do that with an Assault Rifle. Yes, the use of myofibs + the combo of 700+ armor does limit how many armor repairs or cardio regs you can put on so that argument is out of the water. Not only does armor effect your speed, but it also affects jump height. I would be surprised if people with 3 myofibs and 700+ armor could even jump 10 feet, much less 20+. Are you just typing random thoughts or do you actually believe what you are typing? People who use the myofib/mass driver combo tend to engage enemies in CQC so they do not need to track the movement of the redberry anymore than any other person fighting in CQC with any other weapon. Also, the splash damage of the mass driver and the multiple rounds one can fire in rapid succession without having to reload provides a scenario where the user does not have to be accurate; all they have to do is spam mass driver rounds in the general vicinity of the redberry. It's pretty obvious you haven't a clue about what you are talking about. It is also pretty obvious that you have never used a mass driver. Even when in CQC, the mass driver does not have that large of an aoe and you still need to aim (assault mass driver excepted). Also, the splash damage is negligible to everything BUT scouts, and often times it will take 5-6 shots to take out a medium frame, and more for heavies, meaning it would take 1-2 clips just to kill an enemy. Whereas using any Rifle, it would only take maybe a quarter of a clip. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:15:00 - [148] - Quote Sounds like someone needs to run a BMD on a scout. You either directly hit someone, directly hit (kill) yourself, miss entirely cause lack of splash mean dead, or get pretty good at hitting most things dead on. Including yourself. SilentChaozz on PS4 Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke As scrub scout I is
Immortal John Ripper 30	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:23:00 - [149] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Are you just typing random thoughts or do you actually believe what you are typing? I do both. but I think I am a special case. Shadier than Kane Spero,Cuter than Zatara,smarter than zaria,a voice sexier than soraya GJR The CPM to surpass them all
General John Ripper 30	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:23:00 - [150] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Are you just typing random thoughts or do you actually believe what you are typing? I do both. but I think I am a special case. Shadier than Kane Spero,Cuter than Zatara,smarter than zaria,a voice sexier than soraya GJR The CPM to surpass them all

Jenny Tales Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 12	Posted - 2016.02.24 22:06:00 - [151] - Quote Heres a Google search Scrubs (American comedy series) Theme song: Superman Executive producer: Zach Braff, Bill Lawrence, Randall Wins Stacey's Scrub Hub No reviews -+ Medical Supply Store C2, 27 -+ 964-3390 Closing soon: 6:00 PM Website Directions More places Urban Dictionary: scrub www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scrub Urban Dictionary A scrub is a guy that thinks he's fly And is also known as a buster Always talkin' about what he wants And just sits on his broke ass A scrub is a ... GÇÄscrub - GÇÄTurk - GÇÄJD - GÇÄLast Scrub \| Definition of Scrub by Merriam-Webster www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scrub MerriamGÇæWebster 1a : a stunted tree or shrubb : vegetation consisting chiefly of scrubsc : a tract covered with scrub. 2 : a domestic animal of mixed or unknown parentage and ... scrub - Wiktionary https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scrub Wiktionary You are such a scrub! Instead of washing the dishes you put the used food on your face! . A thicket or jungle, often specified by the name of the prevailing plant; ... Scrub - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrub Wikipedia Scrub(s) or Scrubber(s) may refer to: ... an American television program; Scrubs (occupation), also called "scrub tech," "scrub nurse," or "surgical technologist" ... Scrub \| Define Scrub at Dictionary.com dictionary.reference.com/browse/scrub Dictionary.com to rub hard with a brush, cloth, etc., or against a rough surface in washing. 2. to subject to friction; rub. 3. to remove (dirt, grime, etc.) from something by hard ... Scrubs (TV Series 2001GÇô2010) - IMDb www.imdb.com/title/tt0285403/ Internet Movie Database Rating: 8.4/10 - GÇÄ185,636 votes Videos. Scrubs -- The med students are thankful when Cole identifies his true calling. Scrubs -- Kelso and Cole lean on each other for support. Images for scrubReport images Image result for scrub Image result for scrub Image result for scrub Image result for scrub Image result for scrub More images for scrub SCRUBS.com \| Scrub Hats and Medical & Nursing Uniforms ... www.scrubs.com/ Leading worldwide provider of scrub hats, medical scrubs, nursing uniforms, stethoscopes and 100% cotton scrubs. Free Shipping on $150*. International ... Stacey's Scrub Hub North Hampton NH, Nursing Scrubs ... usascrubhub.com/ Welcome to Stacey's Scrub Hub. We are glad you have selected to visit our on-line WebStore. Here you will find the same great selections you can find in our ... TLC - No Scrubs - YouTube Video for scrubGû¦ 4:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM Jan 31, 2014 - Uploaded by TLCVEVO TLC's official music video for 'No Scrubs'. Click to listen to TLC on Spotify: http://smarturl.it/TLCSpotify ... Searches related to scrub scrub slang scrub song scrub lyrics scrub tlc scrub gaming i don't want no scrub scrub island scrub dictionary
byte modal 557	Posted - 2016.02.24 22:26:00 - [152] - Quote Living Rock 523 wrote: Scrub: a guy who can't get no love from TLC. in addition, a scrub can sometimes be found hanging out the passenger side, of his best friend's ride, trying to holler at me. Or you, I suppose. Well, at anyone really. I mean, if this is a technical definition. kitten bacon taco (nom)
Summa Militum The Naughty Ninjas The-Office 2	Posted - 2016.02.25 00:57:00 - [153] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Still, it is gimped because while he does have myofibs, he does not have damage mods, he does not have good armor repair, and since he has 700 armor, he can not jump as high, nor as long. You don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver. The use of myofibs does not limit your ability to increase armor repair rate nor does it limit your ability to equip Cardiac Regulators. 700+ armor assaults can still leap 20+ feet into the air at a speed faster than they can move in any other direction in the game. Armor has a very negligible impact on your jump height. Yeah, you don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver, you need aim, because unlike other weapons (minus plasma cannon), you can't just point somewhere and it will hit, you need to estimate distance, you need to estimate the speed of the target, you need to estimate the location of the target so that you don't miss. You don't need to do that with an Assault Rifle. Yes, the use of myofibs + the combo of 700+ armor does limit how many armor repairs or cardio regs you can put on so that argument is out of the water. Not only does armor effect your speed, but it also affects jump height. I would be surprised if people with 3 myofibs and 700+ armor could even jump 10 feet, much less 20+. Are you just typing random thoughts or do you actually believe what you are typing? People who use the myofib/mass driver combo tend to engage enemies in CQC so they do not need to track the movement of the redberry anymore than any other person fighting in CQC with any other weapon. Also, the splash damage of the mass driver and the multiple rounds one can fire in rapid succession without having to reload provides a scenario where the user does not have to be accurate; all they have to do is spam mass driver rounds in the general vicinity of the redberry. It's pretty obvious you haven't a clue about what you are talking about. It is also pretty obvious that you have never used a mass driver. Even when in CQC, the mass driver does not have that large of an aoe and you still need to aim (assault mass driver excepted). Also, the splash damage is negligible to everything BUT scouts, and often times it will take 5-6 shots to take out a medium frame, and more for heavies, meaning it would take 1-2 clips just to kill an enemy. Whereas using any Rifle, it would only take maybe a quarter of a clip. I have used the mass driver before. The moment I acquired the 'Quafe' Mass Drive i skilled operation and proficiency to level 5 and ammo capacity and rapid reload to level 3 and went to town with that thing. I stopped using it because I got more satisfaction out of using the Plasma Cannon because the Plasma Cannon requires skill whereas the Mass Driver does not. Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.25 01:17:00 - [154] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Summa Militum wrote: You don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver. The use of myofibs does not limit your ability to increase armor repair rate nor does it limit your ability to equip Cardiac Regulators. 700+ armor assaults can still leap 20+ feet into the air at a speed faster than they can move in any other direction in the game. Armor has a very negligible impact on your jump height. Yeah, you don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver, you need aim, because unlike other weapons (minus plasma cannon), you can't just point somewhere and it will hit, you need to estimate distance, you need to estimate the speed of the target, you need to estimate the location of the target so that you don't miss. You don't need to do that with an Assault Rifle. Yes, the use of myofibs + the combo of 700+ armor does limit how many armor repairs or cardio regs you can put on so that argument is out of the water. Not only does armor effect your speed, but it also affects jump height. I would be surprised if people with 3 myofibs and 700+ armor could even jump 10 feet, much less 20+. Are you just typing random thoughts or do you actually believe what you are typing? People who use the myofib/mass driver combo tend to engage enemies in CQC so they do not need to track the movement of the redberry anymore than any other person fighting in CQC with any other weapon. Also, the splash damage of the mass driver and the multiple rounds one can fire in rapid succession without having to reload provides a scenario where the user does not have to be accurate; all they have to do is spam mass driver rounds in the general vicinity of the redberry. It's pretty obvious you haven't a clue about what you are talking about. It is also pretty obvious that you have never used a mass driver. Even when in CQC, the mass driver does not have that large of an aoe and you still need to aim (assault mass driver excepted). Also, the splash damage is negligible to everything BUT scouts, and often times it will take 5-6 shots to take out a medium frame, and more for heavies, meaning it would take 1-2 clips just to kill an enemy. Whereas using any Rifle, it would only take maybe a quarter of a clip. I have used the mass driver before. The moment I acquired the 'Quafe' Mass Drive i skilled operation and proficiency to level 5 and ammo capacity and rapid reload to level 3 and went to town with that thing. I stopped using it because I got more satisfaction out of using the Plasma Cannon because the Plasma Cannon requires skill whereas the Mass Driver does not. I agree that the Plasma Cannon requires more "aiming" skill, but while the PLC has massive alpha damage, the Mass Driver does not, and the Mass Driver and Plasma Cannon both require skill, in aiming and otherwise. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6	Posted - 2016.02.25 01:37:00 - [155] - Quote Oh boy
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.02.25 02:08:00 - [156] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Oh boy Run away heim! Run awaaaaaay! The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4428	Posted - 2016.03.27 02:27:00 - [157] - Quote Look what i found! Can i has it? SilentChaozz on PS4 Autistic Athletic Gamer
P14GU3 WarRavens 1867	Posted - 2016.03.27 19:34:00 - [158] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: What do you all define as being "scrub"? I ask because I am hard pressed to think of anything that should be described this way, other than a tactic that exposes you to zero risk. I'm not asking what tactics define scrub, mind you, I'm asking the actual definition, not examples. Most of what people call "scrub" are easy to use, hard to counter tactics. I personally don't see this as a negative - these are built into the game and therefore to me are legitimate tactics - they make me work harder to improve; they are a challenge. Please help me understand why someone who complains about "scrub" tactics is anything other than someone who is upset that they got beat with tactics that are easy to master? I am not a fan of the phrase "adapt or die", but to me, we should learn to counter these types of tactics. We should use them to become better - to learn new ways to engage the enemy. In terms of the easy to use, hard to counter tactics, devs put these in the game to help newbros who suck at the game feel good, and keep playing the game. This first got big with one hit kill auto aim rocket launchers in CoD. This is the exact reason why CoD became so big. It was easy for any no-skill newb to pick up and have fun with. Every FPS after has had a no-skill one hit kill type weapon. Honeslty this has been on of the issues with dust. Newbros cant compete with vets. Dust has weapons that ARE similar though. The issue is, in most other games, newbros eventually move on to other weapons as they get better. In dust, they usually do not. So we have people who have been playing for 2+ years who have never lost that newbro mentality. They are the difinition of scrubs.. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - 'Sault GK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Sentinal MK.0


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