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Medical Crash
Systematic Engineers Unlimited
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Posted - 2016.02.21 21:02:00 -
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I'm glad Photon gear will sun be no moar. U thought Officer gear was bad? dis photon gear is on another level. Half Photon half chuck norriz half manbearpig
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
2
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Posted - 2016.02.21 21:45:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2016.02.21 21:46:00 -
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SHERIFF joe arapio wrote:Lol be nice. You're talking to a vet with 64m sp and no proto suit. Jajajajajaja jajajajaj Mistakes were made. Don't laugh at me, how would you like to be me, and I you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -.-
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XxBlazikenxX
Kylo's Fist
4
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Posted - 2016.02.21 21:47:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. Lol, didn't they teach you reading comprehension when you went to school?
You are not a squad for using lesser gear. You are a scrub for making excuses for losing rather than trying to find what YOU did wrong and trying to fix it. Scrubs are those that cant adapt nor overcome.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2016.02.21 21:49:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. Lol, didn't they teach you reading comprehension when you went to school? You are not a squad for using lesser gear. You are a scrub for making excuses for losing rather than trying to find what YOU did wrong and trying to fix it. Scrubs are those that cant adapt nor overcome. Ohhh I am in a very bad fricking mood right now. -.-*
What I did wrong? YEAH I FORGOT TO INVEST IN PROTO SUITS, SHOOT ME BECAUSE I LIKE MAKING A PROFIT EVERY MATCH AND GATHERING AS MUCH ISK AS POSSIBLE. I'm a bit of a money hoarder... hmpf
#HYPE for EVE: Phoenix
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SHERIFF joe arapio
0ther.Haven
695
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:01:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:SHERIFF joe arapio wrote:Lol be nice. You're talking to a vet with 64m sp and no proto suit. Jajajajajaja jajajajaj Mistakes were made. Don't laugh at me, how would you like to be me, and I you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -.-
Lol I'm only missing 4 or 5 suits not proto'd. Plus all cores maxed and every weapon with Atleast proficiency 3. Plus 25 mill sp into vehicles. Sucks to be you scrubby McScrubster.
I am running low on isk..just dipped down to 300m.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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XxBlazikenxX
Kylo's Fist
4
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:04:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. Lol, didn't they teach you reading comprehension when you went to school? You are not a squad for using lesser gear. You are a scrub for making excuses for losing rather than trying to find what YOU did wrong and trying to fix it. Scrubs are those that cant adapt nor overcome. Ohhh I am in a very bad fricking mood right now. -.-* What I did wrong? YEAH I FORGOT TO INVEST IN PROTO SUITS, SHOOT ME BECAUSE I LIKE MAKING A PROFIT EVERY MATCH AND GATHERING AS MUCH ISK AS POSSIBLE. I'm a bit of a money hoarder... hmpf I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:05:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrubIt is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers. An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered. CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid. To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer. Spoken like a true scrub. Myos are bad because they kill you. "Real" skill means not using jump mods. You don't have to play a game with rules you don't like. But when you make up your own rules and get mad at people who don't recognize your own rule set then you are a scrub.
This to me is also the very definition of a scrub; a player who will defend a bad mechanic as if it is set in stone. Rules? Myo jumping was a late addition to a dying game that was thrown in without any real plan to follow up on that element. This was done after he maps were redesigned to already limit things already in the game like sniper LoS etc. the maps did not get redesigned to accomodate this new mechanic. What's more is at myo jumping isa cheap and easy addition that circumvents other, more engaging gameplay.
A game will suffer under this mentality of dismissing a game element because you simply think others are complaining due to character death. No, there are those of us who are obviously looking beyond our own k/dr to the overall game design.
It's like throwing a kitten into amgroup of children hyped up on espresso. You d*mn well know what they're going to gravitate to. Might as well just shut down the amusement park when that happens.
STOP JUSTIFYING THE COTTON CANDY STAND IN FRONT OF THE RAW LIVER AND ONIONS RESTAURANT!
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
640
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:07:00 -
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If you have to ask what a scrub is.......
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
12
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:10:00 -
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The definition of scrub is that Breakin Stuff guy. He's a Scrublord.
On a more serious note, I call everyone a scrub, but the real ones are the ones who don't ever lose because they got outplayed, or out-tactic'd. If you pull away all of the gimmick fits and clearly whacked stuff, they're the ones who in a perfectly balanced game will claim that every death they have earned is because the other guys are cheating, the other gear is unfairly superior, squad gangups are inherently unfair, etc.
Anything to avoid admitting they might have done something stupid and paid the price for it, or admitting their opponent might actually be... you know... good at the game?
Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper.
Embrace your destiny.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
2
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:10:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. I'm actually a pretty decent player, sure, I learned that going solo against a proto calass with an ACR is a bad idea.
#HYPE for EVE: Phoenix
May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
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XxBlazikenxX
Kylo's Fist
4
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:11:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. I'm actually a pretty decent player, sure, I learned that going solo against a proto calass with an ACR is a bad idea. Then good, you are already getting better. Picking your engagements is one sign of a good player. Don't attack him head on. Once he gets distracted, then that is your chance.
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SHERIFF joe arapio
0ther.Haven
696
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:11:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:[quote=XxBlazikenxX][quote=TooMany I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. Too late for him now. He's a lost cause.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
12
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:15:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. I'm actually a pretty decent player, sure, I learned that going solo against a proto calass with an ACR is a bad idea. I do it anyway.
LEMMING POWER!
Fastest way to get your counter to a tactic up is to die in DUST.
It's why I do stupid crap like stand in front of a maddie, not moving and shooting them with something harmless. They always fall for it.
Thirty seconds later: FORGEGUN!
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Embrace your destiny.
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SHERIFF joe arapio
0ther.Haven
696
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:18:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. I'm actually a pretty decent player, sure, I learned that going solo against a proto calass with an ACR is a bad idea. I do it anyway. LEMMING POWER! Fastest way to get your counter to a tactic up is to die in DUST. It's why I do stupid crap like stand in front of a maddie, not moving and shooting them with something harmless. They always fall for it. Thirty seconds later: FORGEGUN!
I got love mail and called a tryhard scrub because I killed a proto Maddie with an alldins. I laughed my ass off
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
12
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:18:00 -
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ZOMG YOU HAD GOOD WEAPON AND USED IT! HOW DARE YOU USE THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE JOB!!!
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2016.02.22 00:14:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL.
I'm sorry but it's true. There are no personal feelings behind this -- you are, by definition, a scrub. Until you re-evaluate how you view each session, this will continue to be true.
This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
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Forlorn Destrier
Incorruptibles
3
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Posted - 2016.02.22 01:03:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL.
He is saying you are a scrub because you believe you are helping by limiting your choices on purpose, and that once you accept there are valid ways to win other than those you have morally deemed acceptable you will no longer be a scrub.
In fact, your doggedness in your reply if proof of what Himoko says, if you subscribe to Himoko's definition of "scrub".
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning
I am Havok, Incorruptible
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
546
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Posted - 2016.02.22 01:04:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrubIt is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers. An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered. CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid. To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer. Spoken like a true scrub. Myos are bad because they kill you. "Real" skill means not using jump mods. You don't have to play a game with rules you don't like. But when you make up your own rules and get mad at people who don't recognize your own rule set then you are a scrub. That's right I don't have to play a game I don't like and when I encounter this vermin, I usually leave the match. If I stay it's to see if I can find a way to make some progress regardless of their ridiculous tactics, usually using one of my BPO fits, which they hate because they're inexpensive and therefore they don't really do me any damage.
Scum. |
Forlorn Destrier
Incorruptibles
3
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Posted - 2016.02.22 01:06:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I'll tell you what you did wrong. You don't need a proto suit to win, I've won plenty of matches in militia. What you need to do is figure out what you did wrong in the previous match. The only way you can become a good player is by learning from your mistakes. I'm actually a pretty decent player, sure, I learned that going solo against a proto calass with an ACR is a bad idea.
It's not actually a bad idea; a Proto CalAss gets no bonuses to an Assault Combat Rifle. I think you might have mean ARR, and ACR.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning
I am Havok, Incorruptible
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
546
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Posted - 2016.02.22 01:07:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players.
Aka I leave battle when I am getting my ass kicked. Because the other players are bad. Do you say this stuff out loud before you type it? Absolutely! I really hate the garbage that does this sort of stuff in the game. It's ruining the game, but of course, you can't blame the vermin that use these tactics, blame CCP for allowing it in the first place.
I'm proud of the fact that I leave matches where this cr@p goes on. People who fight using exploits are scum, and I won't play against them. I certainly won't use their tactics, and I'll happily leave the game before I do. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2016.02.22 01:09:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. He is saying you are a scrub because you believe you are helping by limiting your choices on purpose, and that once you accept there are valid ways to win other than those you have morally deemed acceptable you will no longer be a scrub. In fact, your doggedness in your reply if proof of what Himoko says, if you subscribe to Himoko's definition of "scrub".
It's not my definition. It's THE definition. The very origin of the word in the context of gaming as coined by Sirlin back in the arcade era.
Credit where credit is due, I didn't create the term. I just know its meaning, and how people improperly use it as an insult.
This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
546
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Posted - 2016.02.22 01:11:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts I would agree with all of these, with the exception, under some circumstances, of:
- SNIPERS - during the match, a sniper allied to a squad can be very beneficial to that squad, and at the end of a match, snipers on the winning side can take out redlined players that are staying far back from the action, alternately, those on the losing side can still have some effect where otherwise they would be useless - some say they already are useless, but sniping is a valid game style, if used correctly in support of the team.
- Battle leavers - there are some situations where leaving the battle is the only option acceptable to the player concerned. I myself am a perpetual solo player. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players.
RE Scouts are certainly scrubs, add to that jumpy RE heavies. This game has just gotten ridiculous. So according to you & toomany, me, as an RE scout, is a scrub. But according to Himiko and Babershop and linky I'm free/properly bastardly. Yeah starting to like where this thread is going. Cause reasons. Please do tell I'm getting curious. What you use are exploits, pure and simple. Yes, that makes you a scrub by my definition. Anyone who deliberately persistently uses exploits is a scrub. Don't tell me that RE Scouts are a valid entity in the game. They are dirty scum because of how they fight, which is to not fight at all. Rather, they're just cowards. Yes CCP has allowed this in the game, more to their shame. But people who actually stoop to using it and all other such cowardly contrivances are scum. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
546
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Posted - 2016.02.22 01:18:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. For the record, I have no problem with people using whatever gear they want, and can fit. The problem I have is not with those people but with the way CCP creates matches which are unbalanced and tend to put all such people on the one team. Those people tend to squad and matchmaking puts all the squads together on the one team first before starting to fill the other team with them. This is presumably to allow squads to team up together.
Whatever the reason, the result is one side with squads full of proto gear and well organised, against the other side with usually solos and noobs. How anyone can say that's a balanced or enjoyable battle, I don't know! Even if as a solo I find myself filling a hole in the stomper side, it's a very unenjoyable experience because I simply don't get any targets before someone else takes them out.
There is nothing wrong with proto gear. I myself am working towards it. The problem is the battles. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
546
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Posted - 2016.02.22 01:29:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lmao I'm a scrub because I use gear with which it is harder to win? You're thinking in the opposite way m8, and DO NOT insult me, how you like to be insulted? IT AIN'T COOL. He is saying you are a scrub because you believe you are helping by limiting your choices on purpose, and that once you accept there are valid ways to win other than those you have morally deemed acceptable you will no longer be a scrub. In fact, your doggedness in your reply if proof of what Himoko says, if you subscribe to Himoko's definition of "scrub". It's not my definition. It's THE definition. The very origin of the word in the context of gaming as coined by Sirlin back in the arcade era. Credit where credit is due, I didn't create the term. I just know its meaning, and how people improperly use it as an insult. Yes, they do improperly use it as an insult. Unfortunately, this is the way people will understand the use of the word. I have my own definition of scrub because I do think of it as an insult, but don't ascribe to the way people use it indiscriminately for anyone they don't like. |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2016.02.22 03:47:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts I would agree with all of these, with the exception, under some circumstances, of:
- SNIPERS - during the match, a sniper allied to a squad can be very beneficial to that squad, and at the end of a match, snipers on the winning side can take out redlined players that are staying far back from the action, alternately, those on the losing side can still have some effect where otherwise they would be useless - some say they already are useless, but sniping is a valid game style, if used correctly in support of the team.
- Battle leavers - there are some situations where leaving the battle is the only option acceptable to the player concerned. I myself am a perpetual solo player. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players.
RE Scouts are certainly scrubs, add to that jumpy RE heavies. This game has just gotten ridiculous. So according to you & toomany, me, as an RE scout, is a scrub. But according to Himiko and Babershop and linky I'm free/properly bastardly. Yeah starting to like where this thread is going. Cause reasons. Please do tell I'm getting curious. What you use are exploits, pure and simple. Yes, that makes you a scrub by my definition. Anyone who deliberately persistently uses exploits is a scrub. Don't tell me that RE Scouts are a valid entity in the game. They are dirty scum because of how they fight, which is to not fight at all. Rather, they're just cowards. Yes CCP has allowed this in the game, more to their shame. But people who actually stoop to using it and all other such cowardly contrivances are scum.
I wanted to point this out too, i have my own rules when i use certain things so in a way im a prisoner too. I don't find anything wrong with using REs, unless it breaks my very small, but still have, rules.
1) Won't use REs on a single target, REs are for groups and objectives 2) Only use REs on a single target if that person is hacking a letter that i cant reach in time
So in a PC, we need to hack a point in city, 2 in 2 out, we each have 2, 1 in 1 out, were about even, but to increase winning chances, we need this point. Group of sents, logis, need to be cleared out/distracted to get a speedhack in, K. What do i do as a PC scout? I could try shotgunning them all, but people know that sound, second that first shot goes off someones turning jumping away and firing.
OK, so i could try knife, quieter, more damage, but, my knives don't work in PC usually. Blue shield flare, no damage, people turning jumping away and firing. So what do i do? Toss a RE maybe two with a flux, clear them or most of them out along with 20 uplinks that are placed. We now have an opening to hack and dig in as i call it to defend the hack.
3 outta four letters, let them have there HP but don't let them have access to the city, our HP is secure, there locked out, now they have to try a different tactic. Blah blah blah etc etc. Another self prison, MAs with bons & REs take over scout role. Usually if a scouts job is needed, send in a MA to do it better. To me, thats stupid and scrublike, making me a scrub i guess.
Feel fortunate that my corp uses me in PCs as a scout when an assault or an officer scout will do it better blah blah at least before i got sick and haven't been on. I could go on on the way my self prisoner mind thinks were REs are and aren't acceptable but i don't feel like it, and i gave one tiny slice of being a PC bastard.
SilentChaozz on PS4
Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2016.02.22 03:54:00 -
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Then who the fck is supposed to use remote explosives other than scouts? Commandoes? Assualts? Logis? Screw that sh!t. I'm not gonna waste my time blasting through 1400ehp on some sentinel with only a scrambler pistol. I'm gonna scoot on by,drop the re,and splatter him against the wall then hack the point.
KNEEL!,BEFORE THE EMPIRE,KNEEL!
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2016.02.22 04:18:00 -
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^ Apparently no one is supposed to use them cause abusing exploits yo. Especailly scouts yo.
SilentChaozz on PS4
Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2016.02.22 04:38:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:^ Apparently no one is supposed to use them cause abusing exploits yo. Especailly scouts yo.
Don't forget re point traps when your team is all rushing another point and can't defend another point.
Or when there's an unattended enemy vehicle that needs to go kaboom.
Or planting them in a common choke point where foot/vehicle traffic is high.
Or the infamous equipment remote explosive sandwich trap.
All good uses.
KNEEL!,BEFORE THE EMPIRE,KNEEL!
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.02.22 04:42:00 -
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All my gaming buddies are scrubs
I'm a scrub
Anybody who played in mordu's trials is a scrub
Your mom yup she's a scrub
Try harder tryhards.
You know that guy that hacks the turret installation on the first spawn?
He's a scrub
Aurum plated booty pistol
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