Your attitude speaks volumes. You see nothing wrong with the way the game is going. You deserve the game to die.

Your attitude speaks volumes. You see nothing wrong with the way the game is going. You deserve the game to die.

As Nick Fury said slightly modified
'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.'

"I am mitten's errand boy"

In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here.

Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get."

In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game.

For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made.

As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!"

"No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off."

In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here.

Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get."

In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game.

For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made.

As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!"

"No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off."

You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match.

Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense.

What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing.

He said there needs to be more counters yo, and have you tried a gorilla (min) sent with kincats & AHMG? Matches a scout sprint speed last time i checked, like a scout with a giant hitbox, giant profile, and a HMG. Also, i love running my turtle sent and gorilla sent.

You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match.

Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense.

What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing.

"People who play fairly" aka losers.

Do you not shoot other players in the back? That would be unfair.

Put an re on a wall and run around a corner to bait someone? Totally unfair.

Dropping an OB? Unfair.

Did you invest SP into suits and weapons? Congrats, now you can't shoot starter fits, that wouldn't be fair.

Don't you see how your silly ruleset ruins more than it helps?

You are playing a competitive lobby shooter and complaining because people won't give you duels at sunset with pistols and paces.

And like those people who overdampened their suits, people that use three myofibs are also gimping their suit. Trust me, I run a myofib suit once in a while and it feels like I'm made out of paper, even more so than a scout.

At the risk of perpetuating this pointless discussion any further, when I really want to turn my back on the whole sorry mess, I feel I do need to answer at least these points.

There is a gradation of "fairness". It's said "All's fair in love and war". But I guess I would look rather to what is ethical rather than simply the subjective concept of fairness.

Yes, people who play fairly are seen as losers to a vast number of people these days, probably the majority. I count myself as one of these "losers", and quite proudly. I'd rather be a loser by playing fairly than a winner by any means available. That said, I'm hardly "losing", with close on 200m ISK and over 20m SP in only 8 months. I have 4 State LP suits paid for by earning them in CFW, and 2 State LP skins to go with them, which can only be earnt, not bought, as they're not transferable.

Yes I shoot other players in the back as they do me. Yes it's "unfair" by some sets of rules, but in warfare, it's not. Again, that saying "All's fair in love and war" comes up. But there's no ridiculous advantage here - all I have is a weapon, often a militia one, Caldari only (because that's another of the ridiculous rules I've imposed on myself) and a fleeing target, usually someone who fired at me first and then runs because I'm beating them.

I've never used REs to bait anyone. Yes, that's unfair but it's a valid tactic, scrubby though it may be. I've fallen for it many times, but have learnt to see the signs, and avoid following people for that reason.

OB? Orbital strike? Not sure what that is, but if it's an orbital strike, then as far as I can see it's unfair when it's bought with AUR, which to me contributes to the pay-to-win aspect of this game. Yes, I bought one once, to see how to deploy it. I don't think I killed anyone with it.

Yes, of course I invested SP into suits and weapons, but primarily into core skills which make all suits, weapons, modules and equipment better. Yes, I shoot starter fits, or at least I assume I do, but I wouldn't know because I don't exactly make a habit of checking first to see whether I can shoot them or not since they're usually shooting me, and if I don't shoot back, I'll die. In any case I mostly run starter MLT suits myself anyway. I find them fast, flexible, cheap (obviously) and totally adequate to what I do. I don't mind dying and have no KDR obsession like most seem to. I'm usually the one making the suicide run to take out some of the enemy camping the point when everyone else is either hiding in the shadows or sitting on a hill with a sniper rifle. You can do that quite well in a MLT suit, you know, and it costs almost nothing.

As for my ruleset "ruining" more than it helps, no, it doesn't. It actually makes me a better player than I would be if I allowed myself to follow the easy road. Players that stick to a purpose and resolutely follow a plan to excel in whatever they choose will ultimately be better than players that do FOTM or easy road. At the end of the day, when they nerf whatever is FOTM, I'll still have my skills in my chosen race and racial weaponry.

I will continue to play by my rules and leave matches whenever I encounter the sort of garbage that uses scrubby tactics. I refuse to add to their kills, at least any more than the one they get me with. They can rail against that all they like. If they nerf being able to leave matches, I'll simply stop playing. That will always be my ultimate answer to this game if it gets too ridiculous and disgusting.

The only people I will accept saying that stacking myofibs gimps your suit are the people who run Caldari and some Scouts.

I have seen 700+ armor Assault Dropsuits using the jumpy/myofib combo and you would have to be a fool to think that dropsuit is gimped because of stacked myofibs.

Still, it is gimped because while he does have myofibs, he does not have damage mods, he does not have good armor repair, and since he has 700 armor, he can not jump as high, nor as long.

You don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver.

The use of myofibs does not limit your ability to increase armor repair rate nor does it limit your ability to equip Cardiac Regulators.

700+ armor assaults can still leap 20+ feet into the air at a speed faster than they can move in any other direction in the game. Armor has a very negligible impact on your jump height.

He said there needs to be more counters yo, and have you tried a gorilla (min) sent with kincats & AHMG? Matches a scout sprint speed last time i checked, like a scout with a giant hitbox, giant profile, and a HMG. Also, i love running my turtle sent and gorilla sent.

You don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver.

The use of myofibs does not limit your ability to increase armor repair rate nor does it limit your ability to equip Cardiac Regulators.

700+ armor assaults can still leap 20+ feet into the air at a speed faster than they can move in any other direction in the game. Armor has a very negligible impact on your jump height.

Min sent with 3 complex myofibs, 1 Complex kincat, 1 Complex cardio and freedom ahmg. Jump with them and punch them in the bawls.

Jus messing around this morning I made a gk0 assault with 1038 armor and 3 complex myofibs with a proto weapon. Still juming almost as high as before

For me, scrubs are:

All proto gear users
All officer gear users
All proto tank drivers
All myotard jumpers
SNIPERS
Battle leavers
RE scouts

Yeah, you don't need damage mods to be effective with the Mass Driver, you need aim, because unlike other weapons (minus plasma cannon), you can't just point somewhere and it will hit, you need to estimate distance, you need to estimate the speed of the target, you need to estimate the location of the target so that you don't miss. You don't need to do that with an Assault Rifle.

Yes, the use of myofibs + the combo of 700+ armor does limit how many armor repairs or cardio regs you can put on so that argument is out of the water.

Not only does armor effect your speed, but it also affects jump height. I would be surprised if people with 3 myofibs and 700+ armor could even jump 10 feet, much less 20+.

Min sent with 3 complex myofibs, 1 Complex kincat, 1 Complex cardio and freedom ahmg. Jump with them and punch them in the bawls.

Are you just typing random thoughts or do you actually believe what you are typing?

People who use the myofib/mass driver combo tend to engage enemies in CQC so they do not need to track the movement of the redberry anymore than any other person fighting in CQC with any other weapon. Also, the splash damage of the mass driver and the multiple rounds one can fire in rapid succession without having to reload provides a scenario where the user does not have to be accurate; all they have to do is spam mass driver rounds in the general vicinity of the redberry.

It's pretty obvious you haven't a clue about what you are talking about.

Are you just typing random thoughts or do you actually believe what you are typing?

Are you just typing random thoughts or do you actually believe what you are typing?