DUST Search - Definition of "scrub"

Alena Asakura wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

This is the original term in regards to gaming.

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub

It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve.

To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it.

Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning.

That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers.

An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered.

CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid.

To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer.

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Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:23:00 - [1] - Quote What do you all define as being "scrub"? I ask because I am hard pressed to think of anything that should be described this way, other than a tactic that exposes you to zero risk. I'm not asking what tactics define scrub, mind you, I'm asking the actual definition, not examples. Most of what people call "scrub" are easy to use, hard to counter tactics. I personally don't see this as a negative - these are built into the game and therefore to me are legitimate tactics - they make me work harder to improve; they are a challenge. Please help me understand why someone who complains about "scrub" tactics is anything other than someone who is upset that they got beat with tactics that are easy to master? I am not a fan of the phrase "adapt or die", but to me, we should learn to counter these types of tactics. We should use them to become better - to learn new ways to engage the enemy. I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:25:00 - [2] - Quote scrub noun a semiabrasive cosmetic lotion applied to the face or body in order to cleanse the skin. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:26:00 - [3] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: scrub noun a semiabrasive cosmetic lotion applied to the face or body in order to cleanse the skin. ^ I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:32:00 - [4] - Quote Scrub: anybody who relies on any combination of elements that, at present, are overpowered and out of sync with gameplay as a whole then switch to new elements as those become off balance rather than stick with certain elements they already trained and practice with to become genuinely better at it. This does ruin the general gameplay and limits variety as players gravitate toward easy win elements for power wins rather than bringing the full selection of elements into gameplay. Hence, why DUST would die even if it was a properly developed game otherwise. To see an at least halfway properly designed game, see EVE Online. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
Living Rock 523 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 151	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:35:00 - [5] - Quote Scrub: a guy who can't get no love from TLC.
benandjerrys WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.02.21 03:14:00 - [6] - Quote Living Rock 523 wrote: Scrub: a guy who can't get no love from TLC. This. Gåæ The butthurt is strong #kisstheringmh
Lord Vahzz 58	Posted - 2016.02.21 03:23:00 - [7] - Quote rings your doorbell and runs There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.21 03:58:00 - [8] - Quote This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.21 04:07:00 - [9] - Quote So basically it is someone who does not try to win. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Medical Crash Systematic Engineers Unlimited 512	Posted - 2016.02.21 05:04:00 - [10] - Quote players who clean my tub My YouTube Channel

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.21 05:29:00 - [11] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: So basically it is someone who does not try to win. Not quite so black and white. The scrub believes he is trying to win, and on some level he is. But he is restricted by excuses, rage, or fictional rules in his head that only apply within his own self-created purgatory. He will try to win, but he will never try to improve. All the while not understanding why he can't beat opponents who possess a superior mindset. A person who doesn't try to win at all isn't a scrub persay, but simply a casual player who couldn't care less. They don't make excuses for themselves and are simply content to be inferior players. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Blind Nojoy G I A N T 173	Posted - 2016.02.21 05:58:00 - [12] - Quote I would refer to Mr. Zitro's book for this definition. Guaranteed to be in the glossary. Hell, there's probably a whole chapter dedicated to the topic.
V1RONXSS X-SENSE Security 105	Posted - 2016.02.21 06:17:00 - [13] - Quote Living Rock 523 wrote: Scrub: a guy who can't get no love from TLC. :D "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack. o7
Immortal John Ripper 30	Posted - 2016.02.21 06:23:00 - [14] - Quote I am a scrub and I am proud. General John Ripper 4 CPM! Tell your friends, your dog, and your mom.
General John Ripper 30	Posted - 2016.02.21 06:23:00 - [15] - Quote I am a scrub and I am proud. General John Ripper 4 CPM! Tell your friends, your dog, and your mom.
TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.21 10:13:00 - [16] - Quote For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 540	Posted - 2016.02.21 11:12:00 - [17] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers. An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered. CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid. To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 540	Posted - 2016.02.21 11:32:00 - [18] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts I would agree with all of these, with the exception, under some circumstances, of: SNIPERS - during the match, a sniper allied to a squad can be very beneficial to that squad, and at the end of a match, snipers on the winning side can take out redlined players that are staying far back from the action, alternately, those on the losing side can still have some effect where otherwise they would be useless - some say they already are useless, but sniping is a valid game style, if used correctly in support of the team. Battle leavers - there are some situations where leaving the battle is the only option acceptable to the player concerned. I myself am a perpetual solo player. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players. RE Scouts are certainly scrubs, add to that jumpy RE heavies. This game has just gotten ridiculous.
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2016.02.21 13:12:00 - [19] - Quote A scrub is someone who doesn't subscribe to me, I created the phrase "don't be a scrub, give us a sub!" >>>MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL!<<<
DRAKEST HOUR 175	Posted - 2016.02.21 15:09:00 - [20] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. Oh my god. Thanks Captain Long Wind. The blah, blah, blah is strong with this one. Have fun up there above everyone else, and have another cup of arrogance. Cheers buttface. "A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production.Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

Lord Vahzz 63	Posted - 2016.02.21 15:42:00 - [21] - Quote V1RONXSS wrote: Living Rock 523 wrote: Scrub: a guy who can't get no love from TLC. Or anybody using Proton Gear. P.S. Dustys u r best community anyways :D It is Photon you scrub There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3	Posted - 2016.02.21 16:43:00 - [22] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts Perhaps we should expand "scrub" to those that don't read the OP, and give a response not requested as well? I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 682	Posted - 2016.02.21 16:55:00 - [23] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts All milita gear users All sicas and soma users All advanced gear users All b!tches using glitches.....like cloaked melee, lav glitch You play this game to skill up to the best gear possible but then people b!tch and cry about proto stomping. It's not the fuking gear. Its team work , communication, and experience. Team work OP like a muthufuka. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.21 18:25:00 - [24] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 686	Posted - 2016.02.21 18:38:00 - [25] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts So basically what you are saying is that you are, in fact, the classical scrub. And no, that's not an insult. Aside from the battle leavers example, all of these individuals are simply doing what is necessary for them to win yet you are blaming them for it rather than overcoming it. This is the prime example of a self-created prison of fictional rules that only a scrub can come up with. The game itself knows nothing about such ethics and conduct. Pay attention class, because this is EXACTLY what makes a scrub. Toomany, I'd recommend you take some time to reflect on your mindset. Lol be nice. You're talking to a vet with 64m sp and no proto suit. Jajajajajaja jajajajaj "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 332	Posted - 2016.02.21 19:47:00 - [26] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers. An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered. CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid. To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer. Spoken like a true scrub. Myos are bad because they kill you. "Real" skill means not using jump mods. You don't have to play a game with rules you don't like. But when you make up your own rules and get mad at people who don't recognize your own rule set then you are a scrub. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 333	Posted - 2016.02.21 19:56:00 - [27] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: . There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players. Aka I leave battle when I am getting my ass kicked. Because the other players are bad. Do you say this stuff out loud before you type it? Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4	Posted - 2016.02.21 20:07:00 - [28] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: For me, scrubs are: All proto gear users All officer gear users All proto tank drivers All myotard jumpers SNIPERS Battle leavers RE scouts I would agree with all of these, with the exception, under some circumstances, of: SNIPERS - during the match, a sniper allied to a squad can be very beneficial to that squad, and at the end of a match, snipers on the winning side can take out redlined players that are staying far back from the action, alternately, those on the losing side can still have some effect where otherwise they would be useless - some say they already are useless, but sniping is a valid game style, if used correctly in support of the team. Battle leavers - there are some situations where leaving the battle is the only option acceptable to the player concerned. I myself am a perpetual solo player. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players. RE Scouts are certainly scrubs, add to that jumpy RE heavies. This game has just gotten ridiculous. So according to you & toomany, me, as an RE scout, is a scrub. But according to Himiko and Babershop and linky I'm free/properly bastardly. Yeah starting to like where this thread is going. Cause reasons. Please do tell I'm getting curious. SilentChaozz on PS4 Your communication skills still suck CCP, praise Ratman & Duke
DEV Stupid Head Imprint Data Solutions 11	Posted - 2016.02.21 20:12:00 - [29] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. That's not my definition of a scrub. To me a scrub is a disgusting exploit player that will do anything to win. CCP has either accidentally or deliberately put certain things in the game that are "supposed" to be for one purpose but are used as exploits to gain advantage in the game, fostering FOTM followers. An almost perfect example is the jumpy myofibs. They were supposedly meant to allow people to jump on top of things rather than use a dropship. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you over a swamp. There is no way that CCP would not have known that this would be exploited by all sorts of really obnoxious characters that will find a way to use it for advantage. And so it is, that heavies with mass drivers and assaults with shotguns are gaining ridiculously unbelievable advantage, which simply cannot be countered. CCP has fostered these scrubs. Someone at CCP seems to really like messing up games like EvE and Dust, interfering with the mechanics and creating the very FOTM garbage they say they want to avoid. To me, scrubs are the lowest of the low - dirty players that will do anything to win and follow whatever FOTM is currently fulfilling that desire in all their fellow scrubs. I refuse to play that game, and it makes this game so much harder for me, but I would stop playing rather than participate. Luckily THIS game is finished and I won't have to put up with this for much longer. +1
DEV Stupid Head Imprint Data Solutions 13	Posted - 2016.02.21 20:28:00 - [30] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: This is the original term in regards to gaming. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub It is loosely defined as an individual who entraps themselves inside of a mental barrier of excuses whenever they lose, instead of assessing with they did wrong and how they can improve. To be called a scrub is not necessarily insult, but more of a direct classification of where they are mentally in regards to competition. Almost everyone starts at scrub status and, with luck, happens upon a breaking point where they become self-aware of the condition and break out of it. Of course, the current generation of gamers has no sense of history in regards to the word so they use it blindly as an insult with no meaning. This is correct ^ It is also FACT that there are players who frequently use hit detection glitches / exploits and also have a network connection advantage These advantages are compounded by so called "scrub tactics" This is interesting because technically I am the scrub for complaining about players who knowingly use exploits or having these advantages. ( These problems are not corrected by CCP and therefore should be accepted as valid tactics) My complaints have nothing to do with me not putting in an effort to compete.



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