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Posted - 2016.02.21 20:07:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users
All officer gear users
All proto tank drivers
All myotard jumpers
SNIPERS
Battle leavers
RE scouts I would agree with all of these, with the exception, under some circumstances, of:
- SNIPERS - during the match, a sniper allied to a squad can be very beneficial to that squad, and at the end of a match, snipers on the winning side can take out redlined players that are staying far back from the action, alternately, those on the losing side can still have some effect where otherwise they would be useless - some say they already are useless, but sniping is a valid game style, if used correctly in support of the team.
- Battle leavers - there are some situations where leaving the battle is the only option acceptable to the player concerned. I myself am a perpetual solo player. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players.
RE Scouts are certainly scrubs, add to that jumpy RE heavies. This game has just gotten ridiculous.
So according to you & toomany, me, as an RE scout, is a scrub. But according to Himiko and Babershop and linky I'm free/properly bastardly. Yeah starting to like where this thread is going. Cause reasons.
Please do tell I'm getting curious.
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Posted - 2016.02.22 03:47:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:For me, scrubs are:
All proto gear users
All officer gear users
All proto tank drivers
All myotard jumpers
SNIPERS
Battle leavers
RE scouts I would agree with all of these, with the exception, under some circumstances, of:
- SNIPERS - during the match, a sniper allied to a squad can be very beneficial to that squad, and at the end of a match, snipers on the winning side can take out redlined players that are staying far back from the action, alternately, those on the losing side can still have some effect where otherwise they would be useless - some say they already are useless, but sniping is a valid game style, if used correctly in support of the team.
- Battle leavers - there are some situations where leaving the battle is the only option acceptable to the player concerned. I myself am a perpetual solo player. There are some matches where leaving the match is my statement of disgust at the scrubbery of the red players.
RE Scouts are certainly scrubs, add to that jumpy RE heavies. This game has just gotten ridiculous. So according to you & toomany, me, as an RE scout, is a scrub. But according to Himiko and Babershop and linky I'm free/properly bastardly. Yeah starting to like where this thread is going. Cause reasons. Please do tell I'm getting curious. What you use are exploits, pure and simple. Yes, that makes you a scrub by my definition. Anyone who deliberately persistently uses exploits is a scrub. Don't tell me that RE Scouts are a valid entity in the game. They are dirty scum because of how they fight, which is to not fight at all. Rather, they're just cowards. Yes CCP has allowed this in the game, more to their shame. But people who actually stoop to using it and all other such cowardly contrivances are scum.
I wanted to point this out too, i have my own rules when i use certain things so in a way im a prisoner too. I don't find anything wrong with using REs, unless it breaks my very small, but still have, rules.
1) Won't use REs on a single target, REs are for groups and objectives
2) Only use REs on a single target if that person is hacking a letter that i cant reach in time
So in a PC, we need to hack a point in city, 2 in 2 out, we each have 2, 1 in 1 out, were about even, but to increase winning chances, we need this point. Group of sents, logis, need to be cleared out/distracted to get a speedhack in, K.
What do i do as a PC scout? I could try shotgunning them all, but people know that sound, second that first shot goes off someones turning jumping away and firing.
OK, so i could try knife, quieter, more damage, but, my knives don't work in PC usually. Blue shield flare, no damage, people turning jumping away and firing. So what do i do? Toss a RE maybe two with a flux, clear them or most of them out along with 20 uplinks that are placed. We now have an opening to hack and dig in as i call it to defend the hack.
3 outta four letters, let them have there HP but don't let them have access to the city, our HP is secure, there locked out, now they have to try a different tactic. Blah blah blah etc etc. Another self prison, MAs with bons & REs take over scout role. Usually if a scouts job is needed, send in a MA to do it better. To me, thats stupid and scrublike, making me a scrub i guess.
Feel fortunate that my corp uses me in PCs as a scout when an assault or an officer scout will do it better blah blah at least before i got sick and haven't been on. I could go on on the way my self prisoner mind thinks were REs are and aren't acceptable but i don't feel like it, and i gave one tiny slice of being a PC bastard.
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Posted - 2016.02.22 04:18:00 -
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^ Apparently no one is supposed to use them cause abusing exploits yo. Especailly scouts yo.
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Posted - 2016.02.22 21:02:00 -
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In some ways both sides are right IMO. But since that usually is impossible cause reasons, im just gonna grab some popcorn and watch this burn.
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Posted - 2016.02.24 00:59:00 -
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There's a difference between what's actually wrong, and what you THINK fits the definition of wrong. But blurred lines yo, can't tell reality from fantasy, IMHO THAT is what makes you a scrub.
Shouldve brought popcorn from the first page, for that i am a scrub TYVM.
As Nick Fury said slightly modified
'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.'
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Posted - 2016.02.24 01:52:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:
As Nick Fury said slightly modified
'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.'
In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing.
He said there needs to be more counters yo, and have you tried a gorilla (min) sent with kincats & AHMG? Matches a scout sprint speed last time i checked, like a scout with a giant hitbox, giant profile, and a HMG. Also, i love running my turtle sent and gorilla sent.
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Posted - 2016.02.24 20:05:00 -
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SHERIFF joe arapio wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:
As Nick Fury said slightly modified
'Take the game how it is not how you'd like it to be.'
In my experience, accusations of scrubbery usually revolve around people not playing the way the accuser thinks they should and succeeding despite his/her belief in the superior display of skill/setup/insert personal bias here. Normally "i can't win this is broken versus a player who says "I can beat it, but it's not fun, or worth the expenditure for the rewards you get." In my experience, myofibs/MD/Flaylock are easily countered by AHMG sentinels. I will admit we need a few more counters peppered here and there because some people fecking DESPISE playing sents. Having a couple counters among other classes won't ruin the game. For the people who just think jumping should not exist? I have no sympathy. Opinions are not the sole basis by which design decisions should be made. As I told one player who said "X means the game is not fun and it needs to change!" "No, just because it is not fun for YOU does not mean that the gameplay has no value. If you can provide me clear proof that a majority or even a sgnificant minority (1/4th of the player base) of people hate X I will re-evaluate it on my priority list. Until then, f*ck off." You're kind of making the same irrational suggestion others made when they told everyone to overly dampen their dropsuits to avoid permascanning knowing damn well that doing so not only gimps your dropsuit but also drastically decreases the variety of capabilities your team has to win the match. Telling people to switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG so they can counter a jumpy is a good idea until you kill the jumpy and then you realize that you actually have other things to do in a match in order to win but you're not able to do those things because you're now ridiculously slow and pretty much limited to point defense. What would be your strategy if the jumpy simply decides to avoid the heavy the entire match and decides to focus on everyone that isn't a heavy with an AHMG? It's not like the Sentinel is going to have the speed necessary to consistently track a jumpy Assault and having too many people switch to a Sentinel with an AHMG is a guaranteed way to lose the match you're playing. He said there needs to be more counters yo, and have you tried a gorilla (min) sent with kincats & AHMG? Matches a scout sprint speed last time i checked, like a scout with a giant hitbox, giant profile, and a HMG. Also, i love running my turtle sent and gorilla sent. Min sent with 3 complex myofibs, 1 Complex kincat, 1 Complex cardio and freedom ahmg. Jump with them and punch them in the bawls.
Forgot the myos but yeah, I also use a minmando for such, adding a shotgun & MD just to troll, or galmando, cause turtles can sprint too, plus bonus too shotgun. A CQC monster, just don't go engaging anyone outside of... 10ish meters? If i use my jumpy MA i use two toxins simply because i tried the jumpy MD/PLC, not a fan, not because of self imprisonment but it just doesn't fit my playstyle.
Kinda like MA with SG isn't my playstyle but CA with SG is. I don't mind certain playstyles tweaked to what fits me usually.
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Posted - 2016.02.24 21:15:00 -
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Sounds like someone needs to run a BMD on a scout. You either directly hit someone, directly hit (kill) yourself, miss entirely cause lack of splash mean dead, or get pretty good at hitting most things dead on. Including yourself.
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Posted - 2016.03.27 02:27:00 -
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Look what i found! Can i has it?
SilentChaozz on PS4
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