I'll come back and try Tanks again later today.

So you fought noobs the entire time? gg fam

Funny how people who call themselves tankers and those who never play the game are defending tanks as if they were weak.

Bunch of hypocrite assholes who think it's balanced to die once every 10 battles just because their tank cost 1M+ ISK. ISK should not be the only balance factor. Right now it is.

Anyone with a brain will never lose its proto tank unless 6+ guys decides to use proto AV and focus him... and still !! But how many times does this happen anyway ?

Best TLDR ever btw : clean and concise.

Funny how people who call themselves tankers and those who never play the game are defending tanks as if they were weak.

Bunch of hypocrite assholes who think it's balanced to die once every 10 battles just because their tank cost 1M+ ISK. ISK should not be the only balance factor. Right now it is.

Anyone with a brain will never lose its proto tank unless 6+ guys decides to use proto AV and focus him... and still !! But how many times does this happen anyway ?

Best TLDR ever btw : clean and concise.

Funny how people who call themselves tankers and those who never play the game are defending tanks as if they were weak.

Bunch of hypocrite assholes who think it's balanced to die once every 10 battles just because their tank cost 1M+ ISK. ISK should not be the only balance factor. Right now it is.

Anyone with a brain will never lose its proto tank unless 6+ guys decides to use proto AV and focus him... and still !! But how many times does this happen anyway ?

Best TLDR ever btw : clean and concise.

AV is hard? You mean it has never been easier when your butter knife can damage a HAV and weakspots have been buffed for you aswell as most weapons now cause damage to the hull.

AV was harder for you in Chromosome even with the bugged 400m invisible going around corners swarms.

I really cannot see how you can complain, vehicles have never been weaker, AV has never been this strong overall apart from the 3k+ dmg invisible following around corners locking on through cover and firing up in the air when not even looking at the vehicle swarms which still has the vast majority of them problems today.

Everymatch. Im not sure how matchmaking works for you but i have 113m sp and get pitted against multiple squads whether im solo or squad deep. This leads to my team quitting or hiding. Im left to face an entire team of squads solo. Its fun but its a losing battle.

You mean should be raised 40 times xD

Although I think you are probably using your tanks when you know you have good match ups

And there is also the possibility you are actually a good tanker

Your main point is correct and valid.

Running AV is a nightmare and unrewarding or boring and a waste of time

The opposite is true now for ADS pilots as they are now getting swatted out out of the skies.

They have never gotten the AV vs vehicle balance right.

actually it was easier at one point

like early uprising i think it was ..whenever it was that my ishukone assault forge plus my logi lav = 0 tanks

but now aday is close to that yes..av is on an upswing back to being broken as is it is far to easy but i remember when it was even easier

the cycle repeats as always takahiro

Other than the copious amount of cool story bro on display here, have you tanked in a PC?

Other than the copious amount of cool story bro on display here, have you tanked in a PC?

nope, different kettle of fish that isnt it? one leader calling the shots 16 players working in cohesion with enemy proto tanks and forge gunners on overwatch, and PC tankers usually get paid for their losses.

Sadly, quoted for truth.

Good on Iron delta for anti dropships work, pretty meh on everything else.

I did the event with a 40m sp alt and specced gallente havs.

About 15 matches later and I havent lost one in battle. Compared to the frustration of runnning AV it's an absolute joke how little risk there is running a proto tank in pubs. This from a tank noob.

Some matches it seems half the enemy team has switched to swarms, which do absolutely FA damage to my perma-hardened fortress and are trivial to drive away from. Been a bit more wary of forges and PLC if they get on roofs, once even got me down to 50% armour. So I drive somewhere they can't shoot me.

I've been a FG on a roof staring down at the battle taking the odd pot-shot at infantry and hoping the tank comes back into sight before I either run out of ammo die of boredom get sniped or fall off and take my chances in a gimped fit vs a pack of angry scouts who I shine up as a red dot for all to see while they pick their moment to shoot me in the back.

I've been a swarmer in my gimped fit running and running to get in range to fling a couple of AV nades and lock a full clip onto a tank only for it to disappear round a corner and then see three or four red dots home in on my position.

But now i'm a tank. I kill a few, some swap fits to kill me, I drive round the map grinning and picking off the weak and unwary, I get a fright when my shield disappears, I drive some more, maybe something else hits me. If so I drive off, mostly nothing else happens so I carry on as above.

It's absolutely confirmed what I suspected, there is a massive imbalance.

Cue tanker alts pretending ot be AV gods claiming to pop 10 proto tanks before breakfast.

TL:DR?

I've been AV since beta, it's hard.

I've been a tanker since Tuesday, it's a piece of ****.

Thing is that being successful AV it's not hard, it's challenging, and you definitely was not good one - thats why you think that there is a massive imbalance.

so if i was so bad at av why am i finding tanking really easy?

And this is why vehicles need cap...

Then no one would say it's easy... Hmm.

Tank pilots be dying left right and center... All these 2x hards with active armor repair while shooting a hybrid turret would be suicide on a cap based system. Only the good ones will stand out.

runs a proto tank.

comes to conclusion proto is powerful.

what insight.

I did the event with a 40m sp alt and specced gallente havs.

About 15 matches later and I havent lost one in battle. Compared to the frustration of runnning AV it's an absolute joke how little risk there is running a proto tank in pubs. This from a tank noob.

Some matches it seems half the enemy team has switched to swarms, which do absolutely FA damage to my perma-hardened fortress and are trivial to drive away from. Been a bit more wary of forges and PLC if they get on roofs, once even got me down to 50% armour. So I drive somewhere they can't shoot me.

I've been a FG on a roof staring down at the battle taking the odd pot-shot at infantry and hoping the tank comes back into sight before I either run out of ammo die of boredom get sniped or fall off and take my chances in a gimped fit vs a pack of angry scouts who I shine up as a red dot for all to see while they pick their moment to shoot me in the back.

I've been a swarmer in my gimped fit running and running to get in range to fling a couple of AV nades and lock a full clip onto a tank only for it to disappear round a corner and then see three or four red dots home in on my position.

But now i'm a tank. I kill a few, some swap fits to kill me, I drive round the map grinning and picking off the weak and unwary, I get a fright when my shield disappears, I drive some more, maybe something else hits me. If so I drive off, mostly nothing else happens so I carry on as above.

It's absolutely confirmed what I suspected, there is a massive imbalance.

Cue tanker alts pretending ot be AV gods claiming to pop 10 proto tanks before breakfast.

TL:DR?

I've been AV since beta, it's hard.

I've been a tanker since Tuesday, it's a piece of ****.