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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2015.10.28 19:36:00 -
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AV is hard? You mean it has never been easier when your butter knife can damage a HAV and weakspots have been buffed for you aswell as most weapons now cause damage to the hull.
AV was harder for you in Chromosome even with the bugged 400m invisible going around corners swarms.
I really cannot see how you can complain, vehicles have never been weaker, AV has never been this strong overall apart from the 3k+ dmg invisible following around corners locking on through cover and firing up in the air when not even looking at the vehicle swarms which still has the vast majority of them problems today.
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2015.10.28 20:20:00 -
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rpastry wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:AV is hard? You mean it has never been easier when your butter knife can damage a HAV and weakspots have been buffed for you aswell as most weapons now cause damage to the hull.
AV was harder for you in Chromosome even with the bugged 400m invisible going around corners swarms.
I really cannot see how you can complain, vehicles have never been weaker, AV has never been this strong overall apart from the 3k+ dmg invisible following around corners locking on through cover and firing up in the air when not even looking at the vehicle swarms which still has the vast majority of them problems today.
so from your statement; vehicles were stronger when proto tanks didnt exist swarms were weaker when they had 400m range and could blindfire forges were weaker when they had 600m range (was it further my memory fails me) and splash damage   anyway im not complaining, i'm tanking now. I've made an honest evaluation based on playing both sides.
Surya and Sagaris were the strongest vehicles in the game at base stats and fully fitted but being fully fitted they had access to a number of modules which no longer exist and skills which no longer exist.
You missed the part where i said they did 3k+dmg while being invisible and going around several corners.
FG are still powerful and the best weapon to take out vehicles and with increased weakspot bonus it is even easier.
Your entire OP is you complaining about and no suprise that AV is too weak and vehicles are too strong when it couldn't be further from the truth.
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2015.10.29 14:26:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:I've been AV since replication, it's nice to hear your perspective. It sounds just as I'd suspected as well. There IS no way to solo a tank that is properly fitted and competently driven and vehicle drivers STILL complain about how squishy they are.
Oh, and ignore English Snake (Takihiro). He's a whiney little tank b!tch who doesn't know how to do anything BUT complain about tanks.
@English Snake: So you'd rather go back to Chromosome when we COULD solo fully fitted, properly driven tanks (as it should be) and it wasn't a team effort to kill 1 f*cking guy? I'm down, sign me up right f*cking now and I will wreck you like I used to wreck Zitro, Noc, you, Spkr and every other little tank clown back in open beta.
AV solo a HAV in Chromosome? Was that when 3k+ dmg no skill invisible swarms were about? Takes no skill btw which sums you up, who are you btw?.
Even back in the early days of PC vehicles had uses more than now even with broken swarms but 2 failed vehicle reworks, countless nerfs, countless removal of skills and modules and this is what we have left, deleting vehicles would be a major improvement overall at the current rate.
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2015.10.29 16:11:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:I've been AV since replication, it's nice to hear your perspective. It sounds just as I'd suspected as well. There IS no way to solo a tank that is properly fitted and competently driven and vehicle drivers STILL complain about how squishy they are.
Oh, and ignore English Snake (Takihiro). He's a whiney little tank b!tch who doesn't know how to do anything BUT complain about tanks.
@English Snake: So you'd rather go back to Chromosome when we COULD solo fully fitted, properly driven tanks (as it should be) and it wasn't a team effort to kill 1 f*cking guy? I'm down, sign me up right f*cking now and I will wreck you like I used to wreck Zitro, Noc, you, Spkr and every other little tank clown back in open beta. AV solo a HAV in Chromosome? Was that when 3k+ dmg no skill invisible swarms were about? Takes no skill btw which sums you up, who are you btw?. Even back in the early days of PC vehicles had uses more than now even with broken swarms but 2 failed vehicle reworks, countless nerfs, countless removal of skills and modules and this is what we have left, deleting vehicles would be a major improvement overall at the current rate. And of course you omit the countless off and on buffs that have gone on to vehicles through that whole process. You can posture, slur people and omit facts as much as you like but none of it will make you correct. The removals were considered by CCP to be necessary to slowly balance them over time with the new changes. While that choice was debatable, the current state of tanks is not to any intellectually honest individual. You're ignorance does nothing but shine throughout your posts. For instance: 'AV is hard? You mean it has never been easier when your butter knife can damage a HAV and weakspots have been buffed for you aswell as most weapons now cause damage to the hull.' If a tank is stupid enough to sit still and be knifed repeatedly AV is OP? This statement is so ignorant that I can't believe your fingers would allow you to type it. More AV options does nothing to make AV stronger, it only serves to make it more common. Show us a video of someone going on a multi-PROtank killing spree with knives (or any other weapon that damages the hull which you referred to) in a match against competent drivers and then someone might take that sentence seriously. Until then it's nothing but one of the most laughable trolls ever posted on the forums. You think tank/AV balance was better in Chromosome? Put it back and watch your K/D drop like a rock, I'll sign that pettition any day. As for removing tanks, I there is nothing that I could possibly care less about happening. They are nothing but K/D farms for people with no gungame and pretty much always have been. Keep them and balance them or remove them and stop all the whining, either is fine with me.
Slur people, i called you bad, did you happen to read your post? No you were too buttblasted to do that.
Overall vehicles have had more nerfs and removals than buffs and additions.
Why should a knife do anything apart from scratch the paintwork? I have jumped on top of a tank and hacked away at it and i think why am i allowed to do this? At least with an AV weapon you know it was built to combat vehicles and not be used to spread butter. The recent hotfix buffed it so it is easier to do and easier to do with more weapons, im suprised that they havnt made it that scanners can strip off the shield.
Chromosome was more fun, then again playing PC everyday against some of the best pilots in the game made it more fun, every single vehicle pilot i can think off during those days has quit the game and moved on, mainly to PS2 where vehicles have a purpose.
K/D farms only if you did nothing, take no action you get farmed, dont see how that is a pilots fault but it usually is in someway and the pilot gets nerfed in someway.
Stop with all the whining lol, it is like being given a house only for them to remove all the walls and the roof while leaving you with a sofa and half a table, they might aswell take all the lot since they took the majority of it.
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.10.30 23:41:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:AV is hard? You mean it has never been easier when your butter knife can damage a HAV and weakspots have been buffed for you aswell as most weapons now cause damage to the hull.
AV was harder for you in Chromosome even with the bugged 400m invisible going around corners swarms.
I really cannot see how you can complain, vehicles have never been weaker, AV has never been this strong overall apart from the 3k+ dmg invisible following around corners locking on through cover and firing up in the air when not even looking at the vehicle swarms which still has the vast majority of them problems today.
actually it was easier at one point like early uprising i think it was ..whenever it was that my ishukone assault forge plus my logi lav = 0 tanks but now aday is close to that yes..av is on an upswing back to being broken as is it is far to easy but i remember when it was even easier the cycle repeats as always takahiro
At least you had to aim.
Uprising was when PC started i think, i cannot remember these days but back when PC started vehicles were varied and had more skills and modules even when dealing with 3k dmg invisible swarms but now everything does damage to you while you have less skills/vehicles and modules but AV has more options.
It is easier for AV the way i see it because pilots have less options to actually defend themselves from everything else.
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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