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I would opt for using the basic frame over the sentinel class, it's a good deal faster and cheaper. I fit my forge gun snipper to also work in CQC if the situation calls for it.

3x Myofibiril Stims
1x Adv Assault Forge Gun
1x Core Locus

It's does the job.
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Perhaps the damage should just be increased. So you would one shot light targets. Two shot most targets, and headshot kill all targets.

In fact, how about giving all tiers the same damage and increasing mag size with tier. Std 5, adv 6 pro 7?

Why you think that counter for Forgeguners are only sniper rifles?

This is false from the start...

Maybe. I 100% agree that a headshot should 100% kill any target, especially considering how freaggin difficult it is. It is a real pain in the hind quarters to snipe a heavy in the face and not have him die because #reasons.

It'd be a good start, at least. Would make Sniper Rifles a dedicated counter to Forge Gunners, for certain, rather than just plinking away at their shields.

It would help if you backed way up so you could see those guys on top at all times then use a tac sniper rifle. You can fire three to five quick ones into them.

I agree the forge gun shouldn't be a long range weapon as it is. Long range is a relative thing. It is a Cal weapon, but it is a chopped mining laser and could have a shorter range due to firing such a powerful blast. Who mines that far away?

Make it very powerful to 100m and reduce the spool up.

I agree, the only thing the sniper rifle needs is the increase in damage... not too much. And not messing with the zoom.
at range, as this date, i think the SR is balanced... in closer distances the kalakyota class weapon should be buffed in damage keeping the sway and everything else...
A FG will always fall when facing a SNIPER not a sniper Go snipers!!

Aeon Amadi in that video and in that map there were a lot of places to take out those heavy`s and assult k.0 with a SR.

You had more success when you moved back from the wall. Took you a lot of hitting nothing before doing this however.

Protofits says forge guns have a 400m range (basic variant snipers 450). But I thought forges were 300m. Am I wrong or is protofits? Breakin stuff says 320m.

The Thales user could have used a different sniper rifle. So going officer wasn't necessary.

But yes, buff snipers. I agree.

" tape a magnifying glass to the center of your screen "

That's a brilliant idea! The scope for my super sniper that I always wanted! Naww Aeon you so full of sick ideas, I shall reward you with a vote (assuming you are running for CPM 2?)

I just want to make something very clear - I love the forge gun in this game. It might not always be the most competitive weapon but really there are few weapons that are more rewarding or as fun to use once you know how.

Double post for a very important point (imho)

The forge does NOT need any nerfs at all.

It is the sniper rifles that need help. Removing / reducing the sway and giving them the ability to shoot while standing comes to mind.

Again, no-one is saying that Forge Guns need to be nerfed. The only thing that is being said about Forge Guns is that they are better than Sniper Rifles in many ways.

And before you say "charge-up" or "mag count" go ahead and take a good hard look at the Charge Sniper Rifle.

Let's go ahead and watch a four minute comedy video on why you should just tape a magnifying glass to the center of your screen and use a Forge Gun instead of using a sniper rifle.

I'll never understand the hypocrisy of how an immobile sniper killing people with five or seven shots from 400m away is somehow more OP than a sentinel with weapon/explosive damage resistance with a one-shot-everything weapon at 400m who still has the benefit of mobility. Apparently the deciding factor in whether or not either of those are OP is a scope, which is just ridiculous.

I'm sure there's going to be a boatload of "you suck" and "git gud scrub" - fact of the matter is that a Forge Gun can do just as much if not better (AV capability, mobility). And because of that, in combination with Dust 514's abyssmal map design which puts a tower with clear view on two objectives, you get situations like the above video where it is nigh impossible to get them off of a roof without an orbital strike - which can be difficult to attain at times. Proper gameplay balance is 3,500+ Warpoints to get an Orbital strike to deal with a handful of dudes that can totally cover just two objectives, I guess.

This really is stupid. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Gem Cutter (I don't have a zoom function on my TV) but I'm certainly not the worst sniper in the game either. Apart from having to deal with shoddy hit detection and the fact that the Efficiency Rating in the lower-right will lie to you (says headshot damage but it really means a miss) the sniper rifle just CANNOT do enough damage to make it worth while at times, even with the 300% headshot bonus. If a Sentinel can survive -SEVERAL- headshots and still lay you out with a single blast from a Forge Gun then what point is there to using a sniper rifle in the first place?

All of this is demonstrated with this video here, right down to the efficiency rating being just broken and the fact that even a bad Sentinel can out-class a sniper any day, even if that sniper has the initiative. Had I done the smart thing a year ago and specced into Sentinels when they were OP as hell, I would be able to put the dude down in one shot using the exact same weapon he's using because.... #balance? Here's a post by Skyline Lonewolf (another well known sniper) who echoes this sentiment.

Honestly, at this point, I'm just going to begrudgingly advocate that sniper rifles be removed from the game entirely because they serve no purpose any longer, their role on the battlefield has been neutered, and there is no way to make them viable without the entirety of the forums throwing a conniption fit. There is little to no support of sniper rifles - either through balancing or role mechanics.

Symbiotic Forks already took off back in February, even despite having an officer sniper rifle named after him. Gem Cutter took off years ago, and a lot of the more memorable snipers beyond that have left for greener pastures. I mean, honestly, how many of you actually look at someone on the player list and think, "Sniper" anymore?

And as much as I don't want this to be a rant thread, what honest to god discussion points can there be when the mass majority won't even hear proposals on how to make snipers better? What discussion can there be if the only thing the forums, CPM, and Devs seem to be willing to consider is a) nerf the sniper rifle b) fiddle with things that don't matter to the sniper rifle at all?

All I'm asking is to be proven wrong, here.

EDIT: Specced into Forge Guns. Considering how well I did with my first time using it since Closed Beta, I think I'll keep it.

Again, no-one is saying that Forge Guns need to be nerfed. The only thing that is being said about Forge Guns is that they are better than Sniper Rifles in many ways.

And before you say "charge-up" or "mag count" go ahead and take a good hard look at the Charge Sniper Rifle.