Most vets dont care about ISK cause they allready have more then enough. The main appealing factor will be what you can get from that specific store. If there is no content that people desire then the interest in that will not be high enough. For example the main thing that keeps FW alive is that you can get apex suits from it. Skins maybe are aswell a nice thing but the interest in that is low compared to the suits. If i only can get generic junk from the DK store why should i then bother with PC?

Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.

PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power.

Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.

PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power.

Do you feel that this is the optimal end-game? Would you perhaps be willing to make changes on the design from a perception of power to legitimate power so that players feel a more substantial effect of progression toward that end-game?

As someone who has no interest in politics, I can understand the players that do want to go down the rabbit hole. These changes don't affect me as a mercenary as much because I'm probably not going to be gaining much [DK] from it. The perception that I'm aiding my corporation through daily missions is cool and all but my corporation isn't really after districts, so there isn't much we benefit from this.

Now, as an entity that would be after districts, I can kind of see the unique flare but I worry that it will become unpopular due to the same frustrations we deal with in FW: A separate currency with which is ultimately unattainable unless we are in FW and with which does not benefit us in any other market. ISK is a powerful motivator because, while a lot of players do have massive wealths of it, it is a general application currency that can be used virtually everywhere and can be made virtually everywhere.

DK, LP, and Aurum are sort of like 'store credit'. Useful in application but only in that confined spectrum. I -HAVE- to participate in PC to get DK, and I can only use DK in a confined market. Thereby, it is more novel than functional, and my time and efforts are probably better spent attaining ISK.

Make DK stuff tradeable/sellable for the almighty isk?

Do you feel that this is the optimal end-game? Would you perhaps be willing to make changes on the design from a perception of power to legitimate power so that players feel a more substantial effect of progression toward that end-game?

As someone who has no interest in politics, I can understand the players that do want to go down the rabbit hole. These changes don't affect me as a mercenary as much because I'm probably not going to be gaining much [DK] from it. The perception that I'm aiding my corporation through daily missions is cool and all but my corporation isn't really after districts, so there isn't much we benefit from this.

Now, as an entity that would be after districts, I can kind of see the unique flare but I worry that it will become unpopular due to the same frustrations we deal with in FW: A separate currency with which is ultimately unattainable unless we are in FW and with which does not benefit us in any other market. ISK is a powerful motivator because, while a lot of players do have massive wealths of it, it is a general application currency that can be used virtually everywhere and can be made virtually everywhere.

DK, LP, and Aurum are sort of like 'store credit'. Useful in application but only in that confined spectrum. I -HAVE- to participate in PC to get DK, and I can only use DK in a confined market. Thereby, it is more novel than functional, and my time and efforts are probably better spent attaining ISK.

Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.

PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power.

Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.

PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power.

I feel like this new PC system would work much better if all the items in the DK "store" could be traded.

Of course, ideally we'd have a full market system to make selling items much easier, but in that way you could sell that special gear to other players that want it at a significant markup, same as with Faction and Pirate gear/ships in EVE.

Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.

PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power.

We've done that for 3 years now..people rise and they all fall but none have fallen from a war they get tired of the only outcome being ISK..thats just not a good enough incentive anymore...plus if you use proto in PC you now lose way more than you earn. Thought PC is where the proto was supposed to be used? As I told the rest of my corp there is no real incentive I've had my share of GG's it's no longer worth the effort nor is the ISK

I apologize if that comes out rude.

I thought I saw in one of the screenshots that you could buy Jara Kumora from the DK store.

I thought I saw in one of the screenshots that you could buy Jara Kumora from the DK store.

^ This.

A lot of the PC players have so much ISK that they really couldn't care less about it. Even I don't care about ISK. And that's without mentioning that PC payouts are rubbish now too. We need unique rewards that can only be gained through PC to get players interested! What happened to that unique EVE resource that was going to be only accessible by DUST mercs in PC? That would have been cool.

Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.

PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power.

Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.

PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power.

You could make unique dropsuits as well, weapons, vehicles..give them a cool color and maybe an extra slot for modules or another sidearm or something like inbetween officer and proto or make it have higher CPU and PG...make it so with so much DK you can make your own dropsuits and sell them same with weapons, vehicles...that still wouldn't change my incentive or at least not till a port happens but for the players who are staying here that would give them some hope some incentive other than just a different kind of ISK to buy the same stuff

Also jets

i'm sorry. youre next task is to remove the DK store and credit system. yuo know that whole eve/dust link? the feeling of being part of eve when you play dust? DK doesnt do that, because you simply made it up.

ALL items in eve are obtainable for more than one source. LP items found in FW corps are the same that can be found from corp LP stores. All items can be traded.

Youve split the community into the FW community and the PC community and there was no reason for that. We want the community to be one cohesive ecosystem, not entirely separate theme parks.

So there's no reason to split casual and non casual?

I don't seen how there's any separation between FW and PC for groups. FW provides the persistent team play that PC doesn't.

And why are people still hung up on the Eve/Dust link? They've made it pretty clear that the games won't be anymore connected than they are now.

Who the hell thought this was a good idea?

Wont happend cause most of the new stuff that gets released ends up to be a hack job. We simply get some AUR items avaible in the DK store and thats about it. The highest hope that you can have is that there are maybe 1~3 skins but thats allready optimistic from my point of view. The whole concept of the new PC system can be boiled down to this:

-get lots of very active but rather bad players who contribute the lion part of your command points
-have the hardcore vets show up for PC
-sell clones here and then to give your vets ISK
-the active players get their share of the clone selling as DK.

I allready see very good corps recruiting players that would be way below their standard just so they can keep their districts and have enough command points ready when this update hits the game. The danger ahead is that we see another huge blue donout cause you could potentially make more ISK by not fighting in PC as in like this:

-blue donut gets formed with mega corps
-nobody is launching attacks cause fighting means loosing ISK (as others have allready stated)
-CP are only beeing used to sell like 150 clones a day
-99% of the districts will be production facilitys cause of their 150 clone production a day
-the great farming returns

So what safety is there to prevent a fiasco like this? Raiding can be neglected due to appearent fact that even raid matches start after 24 hours.

So there's no reason to split casual and non casual?

I don't seen how there's any separation between FW and PC for groups. FW provides the persistent team play that PC doesn't.

And why are people still hung up on the Eve/Dust link? They've made it pretty clear that the games won't be anymore connected than they are now.

because splitting the player base has worked SO WELL so far?

This new store is going to incite more problems and a bigger separation between PC vs casuals. It's not helping introduce anything but more issues. Who the hell thought this was a good idea?

PvE wouldve save us all