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DeathwindRising
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Posted - 2015.06.28 17:01:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.
PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power.
i'm sorry. youre next task is to remove the DK store and credit system. yuo know that whole eve/dust link? the feeling of being part of eve when you play dust? DK doesnt do that, because you simply made it up.
ALL items in eve are obtainable for more than one source. LP items found in FW corps are the same that can be found from corp LP stores. All items can be traded.
Youve split the community into the FW community and the PC community and there was no reason for that. We want the community to be one cohesive ecosystem, not entirely separate theme parks. |
DeathwindRising
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Posted - 2015.06.28 17:24:00 -
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thor424 wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.
PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power. i'm sorry. youre next task is to remove the DK store and credit system. yuo know that whole eve/dust link? the feeling of being part of eve when you play dust? DK doesnt do that, because you simply made it up. ALL items in eve are obtainable for more than one source. LP items found in FW corps are the same that can be found from corp LP stores. All items can be traded. Youve split the community into the FW community and the PC community and there was no reason for that. We want the community to be one cohesive ecosystem, not entirely separate theme parks. So there's no reason to split casual and non casual? I don't seen how there's any separation between FW and PC for groups. FW provides the persistent team play that PC doesn't. And why are people still hung up on the Eve/Dust link? They've made it pretty clear that the games won't be anymore connected than they are now.
while it may not be anymore connected, they can still finished the parts they started. medium and large size orbital strikes . the ability to select districts or systems to attack in FW so dust players can coordinate attacks with eve pilots. On top of that, it was specifically asked of the dust community for ways we that we can increase the overall "feel" of being in New Eden. that's why we have SKINS named after and that look like their eve corp conuterparts.
theres no such thing as casual competitive play. youre either competitive or youre not. FW and PC are competitive. Pubs are for casual play since we dont have PvE. but since Pubs are the only real way to make ISK, even the Pubs arent really casual because youve got tryhards running around in it stomping the casual players out.
PvE wouldve save us all
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DeathwindRising
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Posted - 2015.06.29 05:27:00 -
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thor424 wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:thor424 wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.
PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power. i'm sorry. youre next task is to remove the DK store and credit system. yuo know that whole eve/dust link? the feeling of being part of eve when you play dust? DK doesnt do that, because you simply made it up. ALL items in eve are obtainable for more than one source. LP items found in FW corps are the same that can be found from corp LP stores. All items can be traded. Youve split the community into the FW community and the PC community and there was no reason for that. We want the community to be one cohesive ecosystem, not entirely separate theme parks. So there's no reason to split casual and non casual? I don't seen how there's any separation between FW and PC for groups. FW provides the persistent team play that PC doesn't. And why are people still hung up on the Eve/Dust link? They've made it pretty clear that the games won't be anymore connected than they are now. while it may not be anymore connected, they can still finished the parts they started. medium and large size orbital strikes . the ability to select districts or systems to attack in FW so dust players can coordinate attacks with eve pilots. On top of that, it was specifically asked of the dust community for ways we that we can increase the overall "feel" of being in New Eden. that's why we have SKINS named after and that look like their eve corp conuterparts. theres no such thing as casual competitive play. youre either competitive or youre not. FW and PC are competitive. Pubs are for casual play since we dont have PvE. but since Pubs are the only real way to make ISK, even the Pubs arent really casual because youve got tryhards running around in it stomping the casual players out. PvE wouldve save us all I know, it's weird that people expect PvP in an FPS
It's 2015. FPS games are expected to include PVE these days.
Whether single player campaign modes or "zombie" modes, not everyone that enjoys FPS games is looking for PVP and it's ignorant to assume otherwise
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DeathwindRising
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Posted - 2015.06.29 09:37:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.
PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power. OP's point is that ISK is irrelevant to some players as we have hundreds of millions or even billions of ISK. Perception of power is basically irrelevant from a gameplay perspective. As a result, the most interesting thing to a lot of people is the DK aspect. Din, ding, ding, ladys and gentleman we have a winner.
No one here is against new content, or even content gained from owning a district. The issue is that we now have a new currency that was arbitrarily created and can only be spent in a new market.
Remove the DK and simply have districts "produce" these items and offer them to corp members to but from the corp. the corp gains ISK. Offer corp shares to dust mercs, and allow is to pay dividends.
DKs? This ain't donkey kong son. We don't need stupid **** to further complicate this game. There is now reason ever for three separate market currencies. Ever. |
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Posted - 2015.06.29 13:15:00 -
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thor424 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:thor424 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:You guys arguing for this change - do you even PC?
Do you do something with your time other then play against the worst players in this game and tell CCP how to make changes through it?
This is the reality: When this mechanic drops it will be in every good players favor to say **** the rest of you. 2 groups are already primed to do this, and do this together, and plan on it.
PC will be turned into DK whoring, with corps mass recruiting useless players to farm CP as the players already always doing PC continue to do so, and reap the most rewards, again.
Do you think the casual has a choice other then be farmed? It's either try to get what you can from the bigger corps or nothing at all, the smaller cost entry to PC still has one major issue: You still need to win.
And the corps already in PC aren't going to be letting anyone else win as soon as districts have value and battles themselves become ISK sinks.
so what you are saying is that we need a time machine, then we can go back to 5/14/13 and implement these changes? Or just get rid of the useless store and work on mechanics that might... you know... matter? These mechanics are soooo much better than what we've had. Tying it all into ISK hasn't worked. The mechanics encouraging large, active corps over small, elite ones is good for the end game. It's just probably a few years too late.
goon swarm anyone?
if small elite corps cant compete with large casual corps, then we've gone to the other extreme. |
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