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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
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Posted - 2015.06.28 11:22:00 -
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Most vets dont care about ISK cause they allready have more then enough. The main appealing factor will be what you can get from that specific store. If there is no content that people desire then the interest in that will not be high enough. For example the main thing that keeps FW alive is that you can get apex suits from it. Skins maybe are aswell a nice thing but the interest in that is low compared to the suits. If i only can get generic junk from the DK store why should i then bother with PC?
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.28 17:09:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:You could make unique dropsuits as well, weapons, vehicles..give them a cool color and maybe an extra slot for modules or another sidearm or something like inbetween officer and proto or make it have higher CPU and PG...make it so with so much DK you can make your own dropsuits and sell them same with weapons, vehicles...that still wouldn't change my incentive or at least not till a port happens but for the players who are staying here that would give them some hope some incentive other than just a different kind of ISK to buy the same stuff
Also jets
Wont happend cause most of the new stuff that gets released ends up to be a hack job. We simply get some AUR items avaible in the DK store and thats about it. The highest hope that you can have is that there are maybe 1~3 skins but thats allready optimistic from my point of view. The whole concept of the new PC system can be boiled down to this:
-get lots of very active but rather bad players who contribute the lion part of your command points
-have the hardcore vets show up for PC
-sell clones here and then to give your vets ISK
-the active players get their share of the clone selling as DK.
I allready see very good corps recruiting players that would be way below their standard just so they can keep their districts and have enough command points ready when this update hits the game. The danger ahead is that we see another huge blue donout cause you could potentially make more ISK by not fighting in PC as in like this:
-blue donut gets formed with mega corps
-nobody is launching attacks cause fighting means loosing ISK (as others have allready stated)
-CP are only beeing used to sell like 150 clones a day
-99% of the districts will be production facilitys cause of their 150 clone production a day
-the great farming returns
So what safety is there to prevent a fiasco like this? Raiding can be neglected due to appearent fact that even raid matches start after 24 hours.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.28 18:36:00 -
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thor424 wrote:Sota, I think you are not seeing the big picture.
For most PC corps they don't have enough players to generate enough CP to hold more than a handful of districts. Unless they just want to hold them for the heck of it.
With team deploy in FW and hopefully open trading you'll have more people playing as a team as opposed to 80% solo in pubs. All of the ramps leading up to PC are there now. Small elite corps won't be able to hold absurd amounts of land.
I think it's wayyyyyy too late and PC 2.0 will be a huge flop (see hints at crappy DK store items) due to a playerbase that can't even stomach losing a few clones trying to hold an objective in a pub match. By ignoring the crappy incentives for so long CCP has conditioned players to shy away from combat. I believe CCP will have to get very aggressive and throw caution to the wind in regards to our "economy" to get people fighting for wins in all game modes.
Im sorry to burst your bubble but team deploy wont come to FW. Soraya and IWS pushed hard against this idea cause of the argument that solo players would be screwed in FW. ironically they dont contribute anything to FW to begin with.
I got the information about Soraya and IWS from a reliable source which comes from within the system.
thor424 wrote:
Where were you when there was months and months of feedback?
There's no chance that the current PC community can generate enough CP to handle 245 districts. The pathway for lower skill corps to disrupt PC is there, we just need a Contraban Joe or two to get some quantity over quality corps humming again.
Cause i simply didnt care and i like to see what ideas the community comes up with. Then it gets bashed by the CPM just so that then the large landholders can keep their turf. The original idea of command points aswell included that you need them aswell for defending districts. But that has beeing scrapped cause that would endanger the status quo where you only need your best players for PC not the rest that farms CP with their daylie missions.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.28 18:58:00 -
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You will still need to have all 16 players pay full attention. Cause if the sync fails then you need those players to back out on their own. While with team deploy all 16 players deploy into the same match, at the same time and you only need 1 person to deploy them. So in reality its a difference to have 1 guy queing and having 16 people paing attention for the whole time of the que. Trust me having them all pay attention can be harder as you might think.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.29 08:57:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Not at all. DK is only there to provide a fun "just if you participate" unique flavor.
PC is all about owning and fighting over districts for ISK and the perception of power. OP's point is that ISK is irrelevant to some players as we have hundreds of millions or even billions of ISK. Perception of power is basically irrelevant from a gameplay perspective. As a result, the most interesting thing to a lot of people is the DK aspect.
Din, ding, ding, ladys and gentleman we have a winner.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.29 12:14:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:You guys arguing for this change - do you even PC?
Do you do something with your time other then play against the worst players in this game and tell CCP how to make changes through it?
This is the reality: When this mechanic drops it will be in every good players favor to say **** the rest of you. 2 groups are already primed to do this, and do this together, and plan on it.
PC will be turned into DK whoring, with corps mass recruiting useless players to farm CP as the players already always doing PC continue to do so, and reap the most rewards, again.
Do you think the casual has a choice other then be farmed? It's either try to get what you can from the bigger corps or nothing at all, the smaller cost entry to PC still has one major issue: You still need to win.
And the corps already in PC aren't going to be letting anyone else win as soon as districts have value and battles themselves become ISK sinks.
To be fair the CP slaves will have a benefit aswell. Cause the DK that will be automatically spreaded among the corp wont be a random number. The people that contributed the most CP will aswell get the most DK while the ISK from the clone selling will go into the corp wallet which can only be accessed by directors and the CEO.
To put it simply:
-CP slaves get more DK then the rather inactive vets who mainly show up for PC matches
-Vets will get their share from the clone selling ISK and a small portion of the DK
Exceptions are if you are a vet who still plays alot and contributes alot of CP and participate in PC matches. Then you get DK and ISK.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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