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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.18 12:37:00 -
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Quote:I don't see a reason why to allow minmatar scouts be the only suit to use nova knives effectively.
Came across a clip from Moochie which reminded me of this thread:
https://youtu.be/_ip_h24672s?t=59
Above is a CalScout running advanced knives; not sure what level proficiency. I've had similar experiences running knives on both Gallente and Caldari Scouts. The only time I miss my Minmatar Scout's bonus is when backstabbing a heavily tanked Assault or charge backstabbing a heavily tanked Sentinel.
All that so say, it has not been my experience that NKs are ineffective on frames other than the MinScout. I don't have footage of my own to prove this point, but footage is out there. Jolly has a few knifing videos; as I recall, he's running GalScout in them. Sax has a knifing video or two running Min Assault. I'm sure there are others.
Scouts aren't in the best of health relative to Assaults at the moment, but the Caldari Scout and Gallente Scout have much working in their favor. Giving all frames MinScout-grade NK alpha potential would very likely -- in my opinion as a career-long Scout and Proficiency 5 knifer -- create balance issues with both the CalScout and GalScout.
My two cents.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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maybe deadcatz
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.18 14:39:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Quote:I don't see a reason why to allow minmatar scouts be the only suit to use nova knives effectively. Came across a clip from Moochie which reminded me of this thread: https://youtu.be/_ip_h24672s?t=59Above is a CalScout running advanced knives; not sure what level proficiency. I've had similar experiences running knives on both Gallente and Caldari Scouts. The only time I miss my Minmatar Scout's bonus is when backstabbing a heavily tanked Assault or charge backstabbing a heavily tanked Sentinel. All that so say, it has not been my experience that NKs are ineffective on frames other than the MinScout. I don't have footage of my own to prove this point, but footage is out there. Jolly has a few knifing videos; as I recall, he's running GalScout in them. Sax has a knifing video or two running Min Assault. I'm sure there are others. Scouts aren't in the best of health relative to Assaults at the moment, but the Caldari Scout and Gallente Scout have much working in their favor. Giving all frames MinScout-grade NK alpha potential would very likely -- in my opinion as a career-long Scout and Proficiency 5 knifer -- create balance issues with both the CalScout and GalScout. My two cents.
i run novas on a amarr scout. 9.64 meters a second and some ishukones,might need a second swipe but they die anyway.
Ewar? What's that? Some kind of new crutch? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots. Battelskirts for the win!!
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.06.18 18:24:00 -
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Read the second paragraph:
Please PLEASE stop arguing over 'this race that' and 'that race that' and 'wrong racial xxx'.
All roleplay reasons are secondary to good gameplay and game balance.
Besides, for mercs, not even lore reasons justify sticking to just one tech.
Someone wants to kill others bad and win? He'll use the best and most cunning tech combo.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.18 18:26:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Read the second paragraph:
Please PLEASE stop arguing over 'this race that' and 'that race that' and 'wrong racial xxx'.
All roleplay reasons are secondary to good gameplay and game balance.
Besides, for mercs, not even lore reasons justify sticking to just one tech.
Someone wants to kill others bad and win? He'll use the best and most cunning tech combo.
But if lore didn't matter then what's the point then? Just turn this game into COD if that's the case
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.18 19:24:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Read the second paragraph:
Please PLEASE stop arguing over 'this race that' and 'that race that' and 'wrong racial xxx'.
All roleplay reasons are secondary to good gameplay and game balance.
Besides, for mercs, not even lore reasons justify sticking to just one tech.
Someone wants to kill others bad and win? He'll use the best and most cunning tech combo.
Lore actually has everything to do with it. True, sticking to one tech seems silly, but if you consider LORE you would understand.
I don't know why you are bashing on lore, but I am just going to assume you like CoD or Battlefield and stuff like that. Not everyone is going to stick to lore, but despite DUST not having much lore, yet having a strong group of people that actually follow lore, (True and Aero and PIE using nothing but Amarr tech, i forgot the rest...) So yes, Lore/Roleplay does justify sticking to just one tech.
GÖ˘ Scouts United - Join the Scout channel. GÖ˘
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knight guard fury
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.18 19:31:00 -
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Lore does matter, with the exception of nova knives I use everything minmatar and have not switched ever unless I'm testing something. For some people lore does matter and it's fun for us, gameplay or not.
Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.18 19:39:00 -
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Lore-friendly or not, it would be irresponsible to advocate for a change which we know would create imbalance.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.06.18 22:04:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Read the second paragraph:
Please PLEASE stop arguing over 'this race that' and 'that race that' and 'wrong racial xxx'.
All roleplay reasons are secondary to good gameplay and game balance.
Besides, for mercs, not even lore reasons justify sticking to just one tech.
Someone wants to kill others bad and win? He'll use the best and most cunning tech combo. But if lore didn't matter then what's the point then? Just turn this game into COD if that's the case
Dude, the fitting metagame, corp metagame, the counter-counter-counter fitting and gameplay really are the heart and potential of dust.
Since when has the background story printed on a games' manual mattered to anyone?
The PLAYER CREATED LIVING STORY is the essence here.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.06.18 22:09:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Read the second paragraph:
Please PLEASE stop arguing over 'this race that' and 'that race that' and 'wrong racial xxx'.
All roleplay reasons are secondary to good gameplay and game balance.
Besides, for mercs, not even lore reasons justify sticking to just one tech.
Someone wants to kill others bad and win? He'll use the best and most cunning tech combo. Lore actually has everything to do with it. True, sticking to one tech seems silly, but if you consider LORE you would understand. I don't know why you are bashing on lore, but I am just going to assume you like CoD or Battlefield and stuff like that. Not everyone is going to stick to lore, but despite DUST not having much lore, yet having a strong group of people that actually follow lore, (True and Aero and PIE using nothing but Amarr tech, i forgot the rest...) So yes, Lore/Roleplay does justify sticking to just one tech.
Never played Battlefield never seen COD.
I like Eve.
Roleplay reasons <<< Gameplay reasons
That's why I bash roleplay in design discussion.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.19 00:53:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:VAHZZ wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Read the second paragraph:
Please PLEASE stop arguing over 'this race that' and 'that race that' and 'wrong racial xxx'.
All roleplay reasons are secondary to good gameplay and game balance.
Besides, for mercs, not even lore reasons justify sticking to just one tech.
Someone wants to kill others bad and win? He'll use the best and most cunning tech combo. Lore actually has everything to do with it. True, sticking to one tech seems silly, but if you consider LORE you would understand. I don't know why you are bashing on lore, but I am just going to assume you like CoD or Battlefield and stuff like that. Not everyone is going to stick to lore, but despite DUST not having much lore, yet having a strong group of people that actually follow lore, (True and Aero and PIE using nothing but Amarr tech, i forgot the rest...) So yes, Lore/Roleplay does justify sticking to just one tech. Never played Battlefield never seen COD. I like Eve. Roleplay reasons <<< Gameplay reasons That's why I bash roleplay in design discussion.
Roleplay is part of gameplay,it's what gives gameplay flavour. Sure if gameplay is nice but there is no reason behind it just mindless shooting I would have been bored with this game within a week because it's far too bland
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.06.19 06:08:00 -
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Some of the racial bonuses don't make sense to me. Gals are the kings of rep...why don't gal logis get the rep tool bonus? Minmatar are primarily a double tank race. Why they get a buff to armor rep is beyond me. Hack speed makes sense. You'd think they'd get some sort of bonus to kinkats, myofibs, and/or cardios.... |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.19 06:33:00 -
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Oh god if this ever happened I'd respect in a heart beat back to pure Amarr.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.06.19 06:51:00 -
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Your lengthy in-depth well thought out post doesn't fool me Ari.
This is merely a distraction so people don't start talking about fixing melee glitching.
Official CPM Platform
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xavier zor II
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Posted - 2015.06.19 07:33:00 -
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like no one agrees with this....a sh!t ton of views and only 12 likes.
No, we will not vote you into CPM2 just because you decided to suggest random crap a month before voting
xavier zor's alt
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xavier zor II
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Posted - 2015.06.19 07:36:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:His entire squad and him were running Min Assaults with stacked Myos and Mass Drivers or PLCs today; was annoying as Hell. For once I was glad I didn't play today, for even someone as stubborn as me would have rage quit if I saw not one but six jumpy assault mk.0 with AOE weapons and proceed to throw my controller at the wall with the velocity equivalent to the forge
anyone running a min assault needs 15 kicks to the face...the suit isn't cool anymore, its FoTM, scrubby....i see like 5 every battle!
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Z Vatican
Hentai Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.19 13:20:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:
No one make weapons for slaves. Slaves grab anything and fight for freedom.
CEO of Hentai Fedeartion /
Caldari is Life-
State Peacekeeper-
Enemies of the Gallente
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Her Chosen
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2015.06.19 17:14:00 -
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Ari for CPM...
or Ratatti's replacement
That dark cloud
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