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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.06.12 01:34:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Hmm... What kind of bonus could we have to replace the Nova Knife damage bonus? Or could we still keep our damage bonus and have super duper Knives?  The Scout bonuses seem to be working ok to me, and I don't think they really need another major shake-up since the last one when the Cal Scout was OP, or even when the Amarr Scout was the best back when we had a larger Scan Radius. I think the only Scout that should have it's bonuses looked is the Amarr Scout. the amarr scout bonus is fine if CCP touches that I'm done. The only reason I can standard stomp is because of that stamina bonus.
Ewar? What's that? Some kind of fancy new way of being lazy? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots.
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Posted - 2015.06.12 01:50:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:Interestingly I made almost the exact same proposal in the barbershop a while back.
A potential alternative Gallente scout bonus would be to cloak duration/recharge. Or give Caldari the cloak bonus and Galente scan range, if you want to be more racially aligned.
There are issues however. Firstly there is the danger of making the Minmatar scout overpowered. Also, whilst I like the idea of making knives more viable on other suits, removing the knife bonus to Min scouts potentially loses the flavour and heart of the suit. Knives are part of a Min scout's identity. Losing the bonus, even if knife damage was buffed generally, would remove that identity.
Preach it brother, oh wait I'm the runt scout the AK.0
Ewar? What's that? Some kind of fancy new way of being lazy? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots.
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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:02:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Interestingly I made almost the exact same proposal in the barbershop a while back.
A potential alternative Gallente scout bonus would be to cloak duration/recharge. Or give Caldari the cloak bonus and Galente scan range, if you want to be more racially aligned.
There are issues however. Firstly there is the danger of making the Minmatar scout overpowered. Also, whilst I like the idea of making knives more viable on other suits, removing the knife bonus to Min scouts potentially loses the flavour and heart of the suit. Knives are part of a Min scout's identity. Losing the bonus, even if knife damage was buffed generally, would remove that identity. Preach it brother, oh wait I'm the runt scout the AK.0 I remember when the Minja was the runt Scout... /nostalgic sigh 
I might not now how it was back then(I joined around uprising) bu t I know the runt lifestyle. Rattati tried to drown my kind
Ewar? What's that? Some kind of fancy new way of being lazy? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots.
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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:10:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Interestingly I made almost the exact same proposal in the barbershop a while back.
A potential alternative Gallente scout bonus would be to cloak duration/recharge. Or give Caldari the cloak bonus and Galente scan range, if you want to be more racially aligned.
There are issues however. Firstly there is the danger of making the Minmatar scout overpowered. Also, whilst I like the idea of making knives more viable on other suits, removing the knife bonus to Min scouts potentially loses the flavour and heart of the suit. Knives are part of a Min scout's identity. Losing the bonus, even if knife damage was buffed generally, would remove that identity. Preach it brother, oh wait I'm the runt scout the AK.0 I remember when the Minja was the runt Scout... /nostalgic sigh I might not now how it was back then(I joined around uprising) bu t I know the runt lifestyle. Rattati tried to drown my kind Heheheh, I joined after Uprising 1.8, and the Minja was still the runt even then.
I just got my new ishy knives and I'm having a blast. Some minjumpspam noobtuber got his throat cut midair as he came down. Best moment of my day.
Ewar? What's that? Some kind of fancy new way of being lazy? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots.
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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:18:00 -
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deadcatz]Preach it brother, oh wait I'm the runt scout the AK.0[/quote]
I remember when the Minja was the runt Scout...
/nostalgic sigh [/quote]
I might not now how it was back then(I joined around uprising) bu t I know the runt lifestyle. Rattati tried to drown my kind
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Heheheh, I joined after Uprising 1.8, and the Minja was still the runt even then.[/quote]
I just got my new ishy knives and I'm having a blast. Some minjumpspam noobtuber got his throat cut midair as he came down. Best moment of my day.
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It was saxonmish, wasn't it? His entire squad and him were running Min Assaults with stacked Myos and Mass Drivers or PLCs today; was annoying as Hell.[/quote]
Naw. Haven't run into him. It was some random can only play with op stuff or he sucks noon.
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Posted - 2015.06.12 05:20:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Heheheh, I joined after Uprising 1.8, and the Minja was still the runt even then. Eh, I don't think so... Amarr Scout was always the runt scout because it couldn't play as one, it was (and is) always made to fit the light assault role, and is outclassed by the actual Amarr Assault there.
That's how I play my runt. As a mini bruiser that gas more stamina than all other suits
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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.06.13 07:52:00 -
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Arirana wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
Why skill into a whole suit just to speed hack?
Get a Gal Scout and stack it with 4 CBs and you'll be close enough not to know the difference.
For as many people that have huge amounts of SP and are willing to respec, they could easily just ditch the Min Scout, keep their Gal Scout, and have a scout close enough to a Minja for it not to matter.
They can stack KCs for speed, and CBs for hacks.
The ONLY thing they can't stick a mod on for is stamina regen, which can be negated by just throwing on a Cardiac Reg and having a big enough stamina pool not to matter.
Its not unlike where the Amarr are now. They are good scouts, but pretty much anything they can do, Gals can do better, and since the Precision bonus is now crap like I said earlier, there is no reason to run them other than being the Empress' cuckhold.
Your post has convinced me that the speed hack bonus is not enough, but minmatar racial bonus to cal knives still cannot be justified. I think an extra 5% melee speed bonus per level would be both inline with racial lore and and more than enough to make it worth it. It will become the only scout that doesn't have to decloak to kill.
Leave the scouts alone. Worry about jumping mass driver minspammers
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Posted - 2015.06.13 07:54:00 -
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Arirana wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:
Leave the scouts alone. Worry about jumping mass driver minspammers
Unfortunately for your post this is a thread about scouts, you want a jump mod QQ thread go make one.
Id like to but theres no point. Scrubs will defend their op crap and exploits.
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Posted - 2015.06.13 08:10:00 -
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Arirana wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Arirana wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:
Leave the scouts alone. Worry about jumping mass driver minspammers
Unfortunately for your post this is a thread about scouts, you want a jump mod QQ thread go make one. Id like to but theres no point. Scrubs will defend their op crap and exploits. Alright I'll humor you. When someone jumps at least as high and as fast as a min assault suit with 2 jump mods or more, the air resistance should make a person put their gun away until they begin falling back down. As a person begins falling back down it should be harder to look down due to the air resistance once again, making dropsuit aerial combat harder and turn jump mods into a tactical sacrifice of offense for defense, while keeping its maneuverability for capturing higher ground. Another thing I feel jump mods should do is reduce fall damage. Legs that make you jump that high become very powerful shock absorbents, due to its raw strength.
Lets humor YOU. Too bad. The bonuses will stay the same most likely. You are attemtping to think too much in a game that is full of lag and exploits
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Posted - 2015.06.13 19:39:00 -
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Id rather have sidearm bonus reload speed. I have plenty of stamina and thats how i take on all those reds at once.
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Posted - 2015.06.18 14:39:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Quote:I don't see a reason why to allow minmatar scouts be the only suit to use nova knives effectively. Came across a clip from Moochie which reminded me of this thread: https://youtu.be/_ip_h24672s?t=59Above is a CalScout running advanced knives; not sure what level proficiency. I've had similar experiences running knives on both Gallente and Caldari Scouts. The only time I miss my Minmatar Scout's bonus is when backstabbing a heavily tanked Assault or charge backstabbing a heavily tanked Sentinel. All that so say, it has not been my experience that NKs are ineffective on frames other than the MinScout. I don't have footage of my own to prove this point, but footage is out there. Jolly has a few knifing videos; as I recall, he's running GalScout in them. Sax has a knifing video or two running Min Assault. I'm sure there are others. Scouts aren't in the best of health relative to Assaults at the moment, but the Caldari Scout and Gallente Scout have much working in their favor. Giving all frames MinScout-grade NK alpha potential would very likely -- in my opinion as a career-long Scout and Proficiency 5 knifer -- create balance issues with both the CalScout and GalScout. My two cents.
i run novas on a amarr scout. 9.64 meters a second and some ishukones,might need a second swipe but they die anyway.
Ewar? What's that? Some kind of new crutch? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots. Battelskirts for the win!!
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