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VikingKong iBUN 0uter.Heaven 389	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:35:00 - [1] - Quote ... and it didn't nerf the Scrambler Rifle? It's as simple as changing a few numbers in a spreadsheet, there is no reason for the SCR to have been this hilariously OP for this long, in fact it's just atrocious that this very painfully obvious imbalance continues to torment us. I know you need time to work out a proper solution to create some semblance of balance, but it's just been too long now. It only takes one match to realise that 1000 damage from 70 meters in 0.3 seconds is not fair, so why has it just been left like this for so long? Every single person I've spoken to about, or heard speak about, the SCR has said exactly the same thing: It's OP. So please - even if it's just a temporary change whilst you do all your notoriously half-arsed "testing" and stuff - reduce that damage, or RoF, or both maybe? I would like a Gallente SMG.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy No Context 4	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:38:00 - [2] - Quote Inb4 its not overused, so its OK. Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
4lbert Wesker Mithril Forge E-R-A 205	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:39:00 - [3] - Quote Yes,scrambler rifle is OP but you will get counter argument like this: "But Amarr assault is the only suit that can use it properly hurr durr" Public skirmish = camping games, Public domination = officer sniping games, Public ambush = russian roulette
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:40:00 - [4] - Quote Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
VikingKong iBUN 0uter.Heaven 389	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:44:00 - [5] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. Firing a charged shot is generally less effective than quickly tapping off half the clip in 0.3 seconds, what makes me rage most is when they don't charge shot me. I would like a Gallente SMG.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 886	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:45:00 - [6] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. It's clipsize has also been reduced. To OP: The scrambler rifle is not overpowered, so no change is needed. If Rattati comes out with evidence that it does need a nerf, then fair enough, but he hasn't. Even if it does need nerfing, it won't be by much. Rifle balancing issues? Add spool reduction to Caldari assault skill. Increase Gallente assault dispersion reduction to 7% per level. Job done.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 886	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:47:00 - [7] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. Firing a charged shot is generally less effective than quickly tapping off half the clip in 0.3 seconds, what makes me rage most is when they don't charge shot me. A Tac AR is better for this. Where are the "nerf Tac Ar" threads?
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:49:00 - [8] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. Firing a charged shot is generally less effective than quickly tapping off half the clip in 0.3 seconds, what makes me rage most is when they don't charge shot me. So you want the weapon to become the next Scp? Something that chokes on every shot? Hell no, never again. Come back when you find out something that doesn't happen to everyone. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 791	Posted - 2015.05.26 14:01:00 - [9] - Quote Stop trying to nerf stuff and start trying to buff stuff. Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2015.05.26 14:19:00 - [10] - Quote I'm doing what every other SCR user should be doing, getting as good as I was with the SCR, with the laser rifle. Although for some reason last night I decided to use my 500K saved up for laser prof 5 and get shield recharge 3 on my ak.0... not that prof 5 will do much, shields melt anyway, it's the armour that you need help getting through.

Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2015.05.26 14:20:00 - [11] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Yes,scrambler rifle is OP but you will get counter argument like this: "But Amarr assault is the only suit that can use it properly hurr durr" which is completely true and valid.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.05.26 14:29:00 - [12] - Quote Dude, you can literally switch ScR for ACR. It's been allowed to wreck face since it was introduced. You can nerf the ScR without making it useless, it needs a proper balance not a straight up nerf. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:05:00 - [13] - Quote Scrambler Rifle : Charge shot, with a brief followup. Overload the heat and user takes feedback damage. Heat buildup means you cannot fire the entire clip. Works best on an Amarr assaul suit, which can reduce heat buildup by 25% Damage Profile +20 vs shields - 20 vs armor, can go up to +35% vs shields at max profieciency. Excellent for 1 vs 1 engagements at medium range, especially vs multiple lightly tanked enemies, such as scouts, and the caldari, the other long range suits. Poor for sustained closequarter fighting, where the overheat becomes as dangerous as the enemies, which will lock you in place, or if your low on health kill you. Because the weapon has so much nuance to it, rather than spray and pray many SCR users will defend it. It takes time to get used to, and rewarding once you get it down. But i'm getting sick of the main motivation for forum warriors trying to nerf it, more or less along the lines of 'I don't like it nerf it.' So Op, whats your plan? How do want it to be nerfed? Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 541	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:07:00 - [14] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Yes,scrambler rifle is OP but you will get counter argument like this: "But Amarr assault is the only suit that can use it properly hurr durr" Well that's the case, isn't it? Click me
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:10:00 - [15] - Quote If they touch the ScR they will have to touch the ACR/CR. Things have been nerf proof since they were introduced. The Forums are a special place.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 541	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:11:00 - [16] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Scrambler Rifle : Charge shot, with a brief followup. Overload the heat and user takes feedback damage. Heat buildup means you cannot fire the entire clip. Works best on an Amarr assaul suit, which can reduce heat buildup by 25% Damage Profile +20 vs shields - 20 vs armor, can go up to +35% vs shields at max profieciency. Excellent for 1 vs 1 engagements at medium range, especially vs multiple lightly tanked enemies, such as scouts, and the caldari, the other long range suits. Poor for sustained closequarter fighting, where the overheat becomes as dangerous as the enemies, which will lock you in place, or if your low on health kill you. Because the weapon has so much nuance to it, rather than spray and pray many SCR users will defend it. It takes time to get used to, and rewarding once you get it down. But i'm getting sick of the main motivation for forum warriors trying to nerf it, more or less along the lines of 'I don't like it nerf it.' So Op, whats your plan? How do want it to be nerfed? If I were The OP, I would suggest more dispersion when hipfiring to discourage CQC. maybe increased charge shot damage but decreased normal shot damage to discourage spam. Combo of the two perhaps? Click me
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 410	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:19:00 - [17] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. Firing a charged shot is generally less effective than quickly tapping off half the clip in 0.3 seconds, what makes me rage most is when they don't charge shot me. i dont mind the carge shots that takes skill but the turbo controller using fgts are the ones that **** me off Moo? . . . Le Moo?
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 828	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:19:00 - [18] - Quote Well, the Assault Rifle vs stacked armor plates is LOL redonkulus. Great vs shield scouts, terrible vs armor.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:31:00 - [19] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Scrambler Rifle : Charge shot, with a brief followup. Overload the heat and user takes feedback damage. Heat buildup means you cannot fire the entire clip. Works best on an Amarr assaul suit, which can reduce heat buildup by 25% Damage Profile +20 vs shields - 20 vs armor, can go up to +35% vs shields at max profieciency. Excellent for 1 vs 1 engagements at medium range, especially vs multiple lightly tanked enemies, such as scouts, and the caldari, the other long range suits. Poor for sustained closequarter fighting, where the overheat becomes as dangerous as the enemies, which will lock you in place, or if your low on health kill you. Because the weapon has so much nuance to it, rather than spray and pray many SCR users will defend it. It takes time to get used to, and rewarding once you get it down. But i'm getting sick of the main motivation for forum warriors trying to nerf it, more or less along the lines of 'I don't like it nerf it.' So Op, whats your plan? How do want it to be nerfed? If I were The OP, I would suggest more dispersion when hipfiring to discourage CQC. maybe increased charge shot damage but decreased normal shot damage to discourage spam. Combo of the two perhaps? Actually...... why not? Increased kick certainly helped with the rail rifle close combat scourge. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 23	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:34:00 - [20] - Quote I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 542	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:36:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. ^ see? fast isn't he? Click me
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:48:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. What about the other variants of the other races rifles... Like a breach Scr would be nice (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 542	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:56:00 - [23] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. What about the other variants of the other races rifles... Like a breach Scr would be nice That and the burst ScR Click me
Michael Epic Horizons' Edge No Context 920	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:12:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: make ADS better at killing tanks You're trying to romance me, aren't you? Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
Echo 1991 Dead Man's Game 825	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:12:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Did you change the ion pistol fitting skill yet?
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415 257	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:12:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. My three roles... I'm be playing in Imposible mode all the time >_> -- LKC -- Tomate Pote --
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:16:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. This post made me wet myself Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:18:00 - [28] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. This post made me wet myself Ditto. /me hands you spare towel. @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 289	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:22:00 - [29] - Quote My only gripe is being blapped by my allies weapon constantly. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 23	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:25:00 - [30] - Quote Devadander wrote: My only gripe is being blapped by my allies weapon constantly. I can relate, FW and my playstyle are not compatible at all. I must curb my bloodlust, and I do not like it. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Jammer Jalapeno Dox You. Proficiency V. 227	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:30:00 - [31] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: ... and it didn't nerf the Scrambler Rifle? It's as simple as changing a few numbers in a spreadsheet, there is no reason for the SCR to have been this hilariously OP for this long, in fact it's just atrocious that this very painfully obvious imbalance continues to torment us. I know you need time to work out a proper solution to create some semblance of balance, but it's just been too long now. It only takes one match to realise that 1000 damage from 70 meters in 0.3 seconds is not fair, so why has it just been left like this for so long? Every single person I've spoken to about, or heard speak about, the SCR has said exactly the same thing: It's OP. So please - even if it's just a temporary change whilst you do all your notoriously half-arsed "testing" and stuff - reduce that damage, or RoF, or both maybe? I am sooo tired of hearing about the scrambler....If you want to complain about ridiculous OP how about those Nova Knives? They can one slice a heavy in no time. Now is a sidearm really supposed to do that much damage? MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
SLENDER M4N Murphys-Law 507	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:34:00 - [32] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: ... and it didn't nerf the Scrambler Rifle? It's as simple as changing a few numbers in a spreadsheet, there is no reason for the SCR to have been this hilariously OP for this long, in fact it's just atrocious that this very painfully obvious imbalance continues to torment us. I know you need time to work out a proper solution to create some semblance of balance, but it's just been too long now. It only takes one match to realise that 1000 damage from 70 meters in 0.3 seconds is not fair, so why has it just been left like this for so long? Every single person I've spoken to about, or heard speak about, the SCR has said exactly the same thing: It's OP. So please - even if it's just a temporary change whilst you do all your notoriously half-arsed "testing" and stuff - reduce that damage, or RoF, or both maybe? I am sooo tired of hearing about the scrambler....If you want to complain about ridiculous OP how about those Nova Knives? They can one slice a heavy in no time. Now is a sidearm really supposed to do that much damage? I just got my knifes to proto yesterday. Can confirm they are really good. I got a proto heavy on REPS and his logi. Job well done se+¦or knives. Roman said he would give me candy, I recieved a rainbow trout from his fishing trips instead. Am disappoint
Echo 1991 Dead Man's Game 825	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:39:00 - [33] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: ... and it didn't nerf the Scrambler Rifle? It's as simple as changing a few numbers in a spreadsheet, there is no reason for the SCR to have been this hilariously OP for this long, in fact it's just atrocious that this very painfully obvious imbalance continues to torment us. I know you need time to work out a proper solution to create some semblance of balance, but it's just been too long now. It only takes one match to realise that 1000 damage from 70 meters in 0.3 seconds is not fair, so why has it just been left like this for so long? Every single person I've spoken to about, or heard speak about, the SCR has said exactly the same thing: It's OP. So please - even if it's just a temporary change whilst you do all your notoriously half-arsed "testing" and stuff - reduce that damage, or RoF, or both maybe? I am sooo tired of hearing about the scrambler....If you want to complain about ridiculous OP how about those Nova Knives? They can one slice a heavy in no time. Now is a sidearm really supposed to do that much damage? Knives are fine, the damage isn't the problem. The problem is its reach which is like 2-3 metres which doesn't make sense.
REDBACK96USMC NORTH K0REA 194	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:42:00 - [34] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: ... and it didn't nerf the Scrambler Rifle? It's as simple as changing a few numbers in a spreadsheet, there is no reason for the SCR to have been this hilariously OP for this long, in fact it's just atrocious that this very painfully obvious imbalance continues to torment us. I know you need time to work out a proper solution to create some semblance of balance, but it's just been too long now. It only takes one match to realise that 1000 damage from 70 meters in 0.3 seconds is not fair, so why has it just been left like this for so long? Every single person I've spoken to about, or heard speak about, the SCR has said exactly the same thing: It's OP. So please - even if it's just a temporary change whilst you do all your notoriously half-arsed "testing" and stuff - reduce that damage, or RoF, or both maybe? I am sooo tired of hearing about the scrambler....If you want to complain about ridiculous OP how about those Nova Knives? They can one slice a heavy in no time. Now is a sidearm really supposed to do that much damage? Those with knives have to get close to use them though. Scanners and Area Denial weapons nullify that easily. What is the counter to an Amarr Assault at range with a SCR or even a Laser other than another one just like him? Ive double shot them from behind with a fully maxed out shotgun on a scout gk.0 only to have them turn around and melt me in that said .3 seconds to see they still had 50 Armor left when a fully tanked Amarr Heavy or Gal Heavy would be dead. Seen some of the top players skill wise lose when they clearly out gunned and out performed them just because of that rapid fire ability paired with the insane tank.
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Battalion 824	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:42:00 - [35] - Quote Commando AND Assault Rifle buff in the next pass? Deep joy. Would love to hear what your thoughts are for the commando role, Rattati. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
tal mrak-thanl Corrosive Synergy 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:48:00 - [36] - Quote Higher charged multiplier? Are you ******* kidding? Director - Corrosive Synergy
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 739	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:50:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Be careful with the AR buffs, you might just end up with another OP weapon, TAC AR is already really absurd in the right hands and might even be OP if the scrambler wasnt completely overshadowing it. BUFFING ANTISHIELD WEAPONS DUE TO ARMOR META CONFIRMED, but thank you for fiddling with the scrambler rifle, Im sick of having to use it just to compete with d-bags whose ability to click R1 quickly suddenly turns them into unstoppable killing machines.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources Rise Of Legion. 442	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:22:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Can't help but notice the pseudo-strawman argument here: "It's a big task." "It" here would apparently be referring to every change you've just suggested. You'll notice however, that this thread was started with the intention of altering only the ScR. But you just mentioned multiple changes, several of which are virtually entirely unrelated, followed by "It's a big task." So, whether or not I agree with the OP, stating that the task requested will take some time, but then also including approximately 7 other tasks within that; it just doesn't really hold up. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 542	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:27:00 - [39] - Quote Summ Dude wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Can't help but notice the pseudo-strawman argument here: "It's a big task." "It" here would apparently be referring to every change you've just suggested. You'll notice however, that this thread was started with the intention of altering only the ScR. But you just mentioned multiple changes, several of which are virtually entirely unrelated, followed by "It's a big task." So, whether or not I agree with the OP, stating that the task requested will take some time, but then also including approximately 7 other tasks within that; it just doesn't really hold up. I think what he means by "it" is altering or tweaking factors within the game in general Click me
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources Rise Of Legion. 442	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:31:00 - [40] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Summ Dude wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Can't help but notice the pseudo-strawman argument here: "It's a big task." "It" here would apparently be referring to every change you've just suggested. You'll notice however, that this thread was started with the intention of altering only the ScR. But you just mentioned multiple changes, several of which are virtually entirely unrelated, followed by "It's a big task." So, whether or not I agree with the OP, stating that the task requested will take some time, but then also including approximately 7 other tasks within that; it just doesn't really hold up. I think what he means by "it" is altering or tweaking factors within the game in general Hmmmmm shaky at best.... My point is, it's how a politician would phrase a statement. Or rather, how a politician would have a writer phrase a statement. The point being, why even bring up those other potential changes? They have literally nothing to do with this thread. So, community, ask yourself, why are they there? Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.

Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:35:00 - [41] - Quote Make the ScR build up heat while holding a charge. Makes it harder to use. But still very powerful if you're skilled at it. !--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:36:00 - [42] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Did Rattati morph into a Caldari before proposing a GA weapons buff as to not appear biased? !--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
Patt MaCrotch Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 120	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:44:00 - [43] - Quote Spam core grenades at those Amarr Assault tryhards with a ScR and repper behind them. Seems that's the only way I see them running these days, a Min Logi on their ass with a core focused. I just shoot them in the face with an Alldin's, no mas problemo.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:45:00 - [44] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. What about the other variants of the other races rifles... Like a breach Scr would be nice You can wait until us Sentinels have more than two weapons to choose from. Gal/Amarr Heavy Weapon > Rifle Variants. Give me my Plasma Flamethrower or give me a cookie!
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 741	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:49:00 - [45] - Quote Summ Dude wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Summ Dude wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Can't help but notice the pseudo-strawman argument here: "It's a big task." "It" here would apparently be referring to every change you've just suggested. You'll notice however, that this thread was started with the intention of altering only the ScR. But you just mentioned multiple changes, several of which are virtually entirely unrelated, followed by "It's a big task." So, whether or not I agree with the OP, stating that the task requested will take some time, but then also including approximately 7 other tasks within that; it just doesn't really hold up. I think what he means by "it" is altering or tweaking factors within the game in general Hmmmmm shaky at best.... My point is, it's how a politician would phrase a statement. Or rather, how a politician would have a writer phrase a statement. The point being, why even bring up those other potential changes? They have literally nothing to do with this thread. So, community, ask yourself, why are they there? Or its how a lead dev who has a shitload of stuff to do and only limited time to do it in, while also not wanting to make balance even worse than it is, would say about his next release. Relax.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:55:00 - [46] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. What about the other variants of the other races rifles... Like a breach Scr would be nice You can wait until us Sentinels have more than two weapons to choose from. Gal/Amarr Heavy Weapon > Rifle Variants. All else equal yes, but in reality rifle variants don't need new asset models and animations, just different stats. Substantially easier. Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
VikingKong iBUN 0uter.Heaven 390	Posted - 2015.05.26 17:59:00 - [47] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: So Op, whats your plan? How do want it to be nerfed? Well in the OP I did say it needs at least a RoF or damage nerf, really right now I think it needs a RoF nerf to stop those turbo controller abusing faggots. CCP Rattati wrote: It's a big task. I understand and respect that, I just meant that while you're playing around with the rifle balance as a whole and possibly thinking about changing the mechanics of the charged shot or whatever, it at least needs a little nerf to the base stats because it is clearly outperforming other rifles. I know I come across as rude and patronising and I apologise, but I was in an angry Scrambler-fuelled rage I would like a Gallente SMG.
Alena Ventrallis Commando Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.05.26 18:02:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Good to hear on GA rifles, honestly for the TAR you just need to tone down ADS kick and it'll be just fine. Also you should consider the discussion some people have been having of leaving the ScR alone save for adding in the Ion Pistol small overheat after a fully charged shot to prevent spamming. Whirly gun make much thunder! - Victor
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9	Posted - 2015.05.26 18:05:00 - [49] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: I am sooo tired of hearing about the scrambler....If you want to complain about ridiculous OP how about those Nova Knives? Which would explain why MinScouts are at the very top of the Kill/Spawn Efficiency pile. And not at the very bottom. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 543	Posted - 2015.05.26 18:34:00 - [50] - Quote Patt MaCrotch wrote: Spam core grenades at those Amarr Assault tryhards with a ScR and repper behind them. Seems that's the only way I see them running these days, a Min Logi on their ass with a core focused. I just shoot them in the face with an Alldin's, no mas problemo. Your edge almost cut me there. Click me

The Eristic Art.of.Death 991	Posted - 2015.05.26 18:35:00 - [51] - Quote [quote=CCP Rattatiscrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps [/quote] Would you consider upping the headshot multiplier as well? While the Viziam is hilariously powerful, especially with damage mods, and the CRW is decent, the basic already stuggles in our brick tanking meta. If the raw DPS is going down, there will need to be a way for the lower tiers to not be made completely useless against suits that aren't militia light frames, and rewarding precision for the de facto "tactical" variant seems appropriate. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 17	Posted - 2015.05.26 18:36:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Devadander wrote: My only gripe is being blapped by my allies weapon constantly. I can relate, FW and my playstyle are not compatible at all. I must curb my bloodlust, and I do not like it. CCP Rattati wrote: I must curb my bloodlust CCP Rattati wrote: curb my bloodlust CCP Rattati wrote: bloodlust Gallente plz "Breakin, PS3's and PS4's can't mate. They're incompatible. Unlike Apache's and Cappuccino machines." - *Cat wisdom*
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries 772	Posted - 2015.05.26 18:37:00 - [53] - Quote how 'bout that minmatar nerf?
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 544	Posted - 2015.05.26 18:40:00 - [54] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Make the ScR build up heat while holding a charge. Makes it harder to use. But still very powerful if you're skilled at it. EDIT: And then change ScR proficiency to reduce heat, instead of adding damage. How about not letting the user hold the charge altogether? Like the assault forge Click me
tal mrak-thanl Corrosive Synergy 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 18:41:00 - [55] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: how 'bout that minmatar nerf? How 'bout you troll another thread instead? Director - Corrosive Synergy
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 245	Posted - 2015.05.26 19:40:00 - [56] - Quote LOL you SCR cry babies don't know what aspect of the weapon to cry about, first its the damage profile then ROF, then the charge shot, then the clip size, then amount of shots before overheat, then amount of shots allowed after a charge shot..... you all just need to grow a pair and stop crying about dying when all you fotm scrubs use is min fits.... scr comes along and *** on your fotm and now it's a problem. if scr gets a nerf so shoud the CR because it is to easy to spam burst shots that guarantee 1 of 3 projectiles will hit and stop shield recharge/damage armor. Director / Slayer / Emperor**
VAHZZ The Nerf Herders 2	Posted - 2015.05.26 19:43:00 - [57] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Oh god, oh god, oh god, i am freaking out. PLEASE DON'T MAKE AR OP AGAIN! Bruh
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 245	Posted - 2015.05.26 19:47:00 - [58] - Quote REDBACK96USMC wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: ... and it didn't nerf the Scrambler Rifle? It's as simple as changing a few numbers in a spreadsheet, there is no reason for the SCR to have been this hilariously OP for this long, in fact it's just atrocious that this very painfully obvious imbalance continues to torment us. I know you need time to work out a proper solution to create some semblance of balance, but it's just been too long now. It only takes one match to realise that 1000 damage from 70 meters in 0.3 seconds is not fair, so why has it just been left like this for so long? Every single person I've spoken to about, or heard speak about, the SCR has said exactly the same thing: It's OP. So please - even if it's just a temporary change whilst you do all your notoriously half-arsed "testing" and stuff - reduce that damage, or RoF, or both maybe? I am sooo tired of hearing about the scrambler....If you want to complain about ridiculous OP how about those Nova Knives? They can one slice a heavy in no time. Now is a sidearm really supposed to do that much damage? Those with knives have to get close to use them though. Scanners and Area Denial weapons nullify that easily. What is the counter to an Amarr Assault at range with a SCR or even a Laser other than another one just like him? Ive double shot them from behind with a fully maxed out shotgun on a scout gk.0 only to have them turn around and melt me in that said .3 seconds to see they still had 50 Armor left when a fully tanked Amarr Heavy or Gal Heavy would be dead. Seen some of the top players skill wise lose when they clearly out gunned and out performed them just because of that rapid fire ability paired with the insane tank. obviously these players of yours weren't as good as your imagination lets you believe lol if they have better gun game they should have walked away with it. Director / Slayer / Emperor
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 545	Posted - 2015.05.26 19:52:00 - [59] - Quote All Gucci wrote: LOL you SCR cry babies don't know what aspect of the weapon to cry about, first its the damage profile then ROF, then the charge shot, then the clip size, then amount of shots before overheat, then amount of shots allowed after a charge shot..... you all just need to grow a pair and stop crying about dying when all you fotm scrubs use is min fits.... scr comes along and ***** on your fotm and now it's a problem. if scr gets a nerf so shoud the CR because it is to easy to spam burst shots that guarantee 1 of 3 projectiles will hit and stop shield recharge/damage armor. Come on man let them be, if after all these nerfs we still come out on top in gunfights then our ego will be inflated tenfold. Or think about it like this, a fun new experience by experimenting on new play style! Click me
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 245	Posted - 2015.05.26 19:55:00 - [60] - Quote Summ Dude wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Summ Dude wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Can't help but notice the pseudo-strawman argument here: "It's a big task." "It" here would apparently be referring to every change you've just suggested. You'll notice however, that this thread was started with the intention of altering only the ScR. But you just mentioned multiple changes, several of which are virtually entirely unrelated, followed by "It's a big task." So, whether or not I agree with the OP, stating that the task requested will take some time, but then also including approximately 7 other tasks within that; it just doesn't really hold up. I think what he means by "it" is altering or tweaking factors within the game in general Hmmmmm shaky at best.... My point is, it's how a politician would phrase a statement. Or rather, how a politician would have a writer phrase a statement. The point being, why even bring up those other potential changes? They have literally nothing to do with this thread. So, community, ask yourself, why are they there? Because he has other things to do besides nerf a weapon because someone cries about dying to it.... funny how its always "I die to fast to this" and not "I've noticed a lot of people die to this... " Director / Slayer / Emperor

VikingKong iBUN 0uter.Heaven 392	Posted - 2015.05.26 20:23:00 - [61] - Quote All Gucci wrote: Summ Dude wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Summ Dude wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Can't help but notice the pseudo-strawman argument here: "It's a big task." "It" here would apparently be referring to every change you've just suggested. You'll notice however, that this thread was started with the intention of altering only the ScR. But you just mentioned multiple changes, several of which are virtually entirely unrelated, followed by "It's a big task." So, whether or not I agree with the OP, stating that the task requested will take some time, but then also including approximately 7 other tasks within that; it just doesn't really hold up. I think what he means by "it" is altering or tweaking factors within the game in general Hmmmmm shaky at best.... My point is, it's how a politician would phrase a statement. Or rather, how a politician would have a writer phrase a statement. The point being, why even bring up those other potential changes? They have literally nothing to do with this thread. So, community, ask yourself, why are they there? Because he has other things to do besides nerf a weapon because someone cries about dying to it.... funny how its always "I die to fast to this" and not "I've noticed a lot of people die to this... " If you actually read the OP you would find that I'm in fact crying about everyone dying too fast to the SCR. I would like a Gallente SMG.
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 744	Posted - 2015.05.26 20:36:00 - [62] - Quote All Gucci wrote: LOL you SCR cry babies don't know what aspect of the weapon to cry about, first its the damage profile then ROF, then the charge shot, then the clip size, then amount of shots before overheat, then amount of shots allowed after a charge shot..... you all just need to grow a pair and stop crying about dying when all you fotm scrubs use is min fits.... scr comes along and ***** on your fotm and now it's a problem. if scr gets a nerf so shoud the CR because it is to easy to spam burst shots that guarantee 1 of 3 projectiles will hit and stop shield recharge/damage armor. People are talking about different things that make the weapon OP because its pretty damn OP all around. Im using the amarr assault with scrambler, its pretty obviously overpowered. Meanwhile I almost never run my minmatar suits anymore (I also have access to the gallente proto assaults, which are just hilariously outclassed by amarr), because the amarr assault is just globally better except for speed, and the amarr weapons are absolutely hilariously good on the amarr assault except for the pistol. As for the CR/ACR, I'd be interested to see some numbers from Rattati if it is overpowered, because my sense is that its one of the more balanced weapons out there. Not that I use it much, since I usually run shotguns on my minmatar suit whenever I use it, and lol scramblers for everything else.
CarlitoX Jojooojo 227	Posted - 2015.05.26 20:39:00 - [63] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: ... and it didn't nerf the Scrambler Rifle? It's as simple as changing a few numbers in a spreadsheet, there is no reason for the SCR to have been this hilariously OP for this long, in fact it's just atrocious that this very painfully obvious imbalance continues to torment us. I know you need time to work out a proper solution to create some semblance of balance, but it's just been too long now. It only takes one match to realise that 1000 damage from 70 meters in 0.3 seconds is not fair, so why has it just been left like this for so long? Every single person I've spoken to about, or heard speak about, the SCR has said exactly the same thing: It's OP. So please - even if it's just a temporary change whilst you do all your notoriously half-arsed "testing" and stuff - reduce that damage, or RoF, or both maybe? What about the minmatar assault? hiper velocity for strafing + bonus clip size Amarr Loyalist. C3PO's alt
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.05.26 20:49:00 - [64] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Quick Question Lord Deathstare..... with the ScR besides the high DPS that people tend to cite, unmodified or total possible shield DPS aside, one of the gripes about the ScR is that you can hold the charged shot of the Rifle and fire it with subsequent volleys of follow up shots. You yourself have active and rather disdainfully comment on this aspect of the weapon. As such have you considered applying an Ion Pistol short overheat animation to the end of the charged rifle shot in such a manner that it allows the ScR to retain this unique aspect of its identity by also prevents the follow up shots immediately being applied? "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 549	Posted - 2015.05.26 20:55:00 - [65] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Quick Question Lord Deathstare..... with the ScR besides the high DPS that people tend to cite, unmodified or total possible shield DPS aside, one of the gripes about the ScR is that you can hold the charged shot of the Rifle and fire it with subsequent volleys of follow up shots. You yourself have active and rather disdainfully comment on this aspect of the weapon. As such have you considered applying an Ion Pistol short overheat animation to the end of the charged rifle shot in such a manner that it allows the ScR to retain this unique aspect of its identity by also prevents the follow up shots immediately being applied? But wouldn't the scr follow the path of the ScP if that were the case? Why not just make the charge so that you can't hold it Like an assault forge And make hipfire dispersion bigger so that Spammy amarr wannabe out there can't hit anyone up close Click me
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.26 21:04:00 - [66] - Quote Forget it, nerf everything about the scr I'll just delete all my fits and use my Minmatar assault to clean the floor, scout to mentally f### with you, and my commando to destroy any vehicle near an objective. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.05.26 21:06:00 - [67] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: True Adamance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Quick Question Lord Deathstare..... with the ScR besides the high DPS that people tend to cite, unmodified or total possible shield DPS aside, one of the gripes about the ScR is that you can hold the charged shot of the Rifle and fire it with subsequent volleys of follow up shots. You yourself have active and rather disdainfully comment on this aspect of the weapon. As such have you considered applying an Ion Pistol short overheat animation to the end of the charged rifle shot in such a manner that it allows the ScR to retain this unique aspect of its identity by also prevents the follow up shots immediately being applied? But wouldn't the scr follow the path of the ScP if that were the case? Why not just make the charge so that you can't hold it Like an assault forge And make hipfire dispersion bigger so that Spammy amarr wannabe out there can't hit anyone up close I don't really see an issue with being able to hold the charge. There is no reason you shouldn't. You will be gambling on your shot hitting the target with the risk of suffers say 2 seconds worth of down time on the cool down animation. As for hip fire...... I suppose you could do that but as I see it that really wouldn't prevent users wielding it effectively in close quarters. I'd argue that you don't necessarily want pin point accuracy at close range anyway. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 549	Posted - 2015.05.26 21:08:00 - [68] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: True Adamance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Quick Question Lord Deathstare..... with the ScR besides the high DPS that people tend to cite, unmodified or total possible shield DPS aside, one of the gripes about the ScR is that you can hold the charged shot of the Rifle and fire it with subsequent volleys of follow up shots. You yourself have active and rather disdainfully comment on this aspect of the weapon. As such have you considered applying an Ion Pistol short overheat animation to the end of the charged rifle shot in such a manner that it allows the ScR to retain this unique aspect of its identity by also prevents the follow up shots immediately being applied? But wouldn't the scr follow the path of the ScP if that were the case? Why not just make the charge so that you can't hold it Like an assault forge And make hipfire dispersion bigger so that Spammy amarr wannabe out there can't hit anyone up close I don't really see an issue with being able to hold the charge. There is no reason you shouldn't. You will be gambling on your shot hitting the target with the risk of suffers say 2 seconds worth of down time on the cool down animation. As for hip fire...... I suppose you could do that but as I see it that really wouldn't prevent users wielding it effectively in close quarters. I'd argue that you don't necessarily want pin point accuracy at close range anyway. An idea just popped into my head where you make the ScR pinpoint like the laser rifle. Completely decimate it's cqc capabilities lol Click me
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 22:12:00 - [69] - Quote True Adamance wrote: As such have you considered applying an Ion Pistol short overheat animation to the end of the charged rifle shot in such a manner that it allows the ScR to retain this unique aspect of its identity by also prevents the follow up shots immediately being applied? For reference to those citing 1000 DPS Scrambler Rifles we are talking about the total Shield DPS modified by 3x Complex Light Damage Modifiers and your Weapons Proficiency Level 5 (possibly also the broken Augmented Ammunition Warbarge Slot). 35% of that damage is wholly weapon profile based and modified by your skills. Also for reference the ScR without the warbarge modifier sits at 1164 Shield DPS while the Tac AR sits at 1090 Shield DPS. I have to disagree with applying the charge mechanics of the Ion pistol here. The charge alone shot alone on every Scrambler is not enough to kill the majority of suits. With the exception of the least tankiest of scouts of course. It places an unreasonably high expectation placed on ScR users to land a charge shot every few seconds, but not kill a targer, or try sustained fire, where it is out aclassed by the assault vairant. Also, people have to list amor dps to get the fulll comparision. Source is proto fits for the armor DPS, because there are no skills to improve armor damage. Prof 5 ScR does the same armor damage as the stock rifle. Tac AR does 1090 shield 657 armor dps ScR does 1164 shield 572 armor dps. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.05.26 22:28:00 - [70] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: True Adamance wrote: As such have you considered applying an Ion Pistol short overheat animation to the end of the charged rifle shot in such a manner that it allows the ScR to retain this unique aspect of its identity by also prevents the follow up shots immediately being applied? For reference to those citing 1000 DPS Scrambler Rifles we are talking about the total Shield DPS modified by 3x Complex Light Damage Modifiers and your Weapons Proficiency Level 5 (possibly also the broken Augmented Ammunition Warbarge Slot). 35% of that damage is wholly weapon profile based and modified by your skills. Also for reference the ScR without the warbarge modifier sits at 1164 Shield DPS while the Tac AR sits at 1090 Shield DPS. I have to disagree with applying the charge mechanics of the Ion pistol here. The charge alone shot alone on every Scrambler is not enough to kill the majority of suits. With the exception of the least tankiest of scouts of course. It places an unreasonably high expectation placed on ScR users to land a charge shot every few seconds, but not kill a targer, or try sustained fire, where it is out aclassed by the assault vairant. Also, people have to list amor dps to get the fulll comparision. Source is proto fits for the armor DPS, because there are no skills to improve armor damage. Prof 5 ScR does the same armor damage as the stock rifle. Tac AR does 1090 shield 657 armor dps ScR does 1164 shield 572 armor dps. That adds up to 675 armour DPS with 3x CDM on the ScR and the 775 on the Tac AR with 3x CDM. While I see where you are coming from I still believe that the charged shot could benefit from the short delay between having fired and follow up volleys and I see the manner by which the Ion Pistol handles it own charged shot to be quite elegant. I don't consider it an unrealistic expectation either. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`

All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 246	Posted - 2015.05.26 22:29:00 - [71] - Quote how about we just steal the ion pistols charge shot mechanic ,slap it onto the scp , give the amarr a bonus to its own sidearm ,and work from there .... while you are at it fix the health/speed ratio for the amarr we agreed was messed up Director / Slayer / Emperor
spooktiz54 Endless Hatred 18	Posted - 2015.05.26 22:44:00 - [72] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Devadander wrote: My only gripe is being blapped by my allies weapon constantly. I can relate, FW and my playstyle are not compatible at all. I must curb my bloodlust, and I do not like it. F that why can't we get into a game today
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 22:52:00 - [73] - Quote True Adamance wrote: That adds up to 675 armour DPS with 3x CDM on the ScR and the 775 on the Tac AR with 3x CDM. While I see where you are coming from I still believe that the charged shot could benefit from the short delay between having fired and follow up volleys and I see the manner by which the Ion Pistol handles it own charged shot to be quite elegant. I don't consider it an unrealistic expectation either. While i defeintly don't want the seizure, what might be interesting is a short delay more akin to the charge up on the rail rifle rather than the the overheat and feed back damage of the Ion Pistol. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.05.26 22:57:00 - [74] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: True Adamance wrote: That adds up to 675 armour DPS with 3x CDM on the ScR and the 775 on the Tac AR with 3x CDM. While I see where you are coming from I still believe that the charged shot could benefit from the short delay between having fired and follow up volleys and I see the manner by which the Ion Pistol handles it own charged shot to be quite elegant. I don't consider it an unrealistic expectation either. While i defeintly don't want the seizure, what might be interesting is a short delay more akin to the charge up on the rail rifle rather than the the overheat and feed back damage of the Ion Pistol. Ion Pistol deals feed back post charged shot? Btw I don't mean a 6 second seizure post charged shot only a 1-2 second one where the mercenary either flinches due to heat build up or shakes the rifle to disperse the heat. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 5	Posted - 2015.05.26 23:02:00 - [75] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Can you look into the rr's both variants? They have bugs that I don't know what causes it, sometimes you'll sit there shooting and no bullets register, yes you can be shot though, when hitting 0 in clip and switch to sidearm it auto switches back to the rr which needs to be reloaded and causes me to die a lot Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H No Context 765	Posted - 2015.05.26 23:05:00 - [76] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Pleas, please, please give ADS big spread with less direct damage on blaster and missile turret too to give them fast aoe attacks that would justify their being weak against AV. You have to keep moving rather than hover as it is. Having a more indirect fire capability would fit that method of attack. Blaster is still not really hitting anything. The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
The Attorney General 2	Posted - 2015.05.26 23:17:00 - [77] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I want to make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. You don't understand anything about vehicle gameplay do you? ADS flown by anyone with a brain already makes mincemeat of tanks. Just like the three AV nades garbage, if you don't want people in vehicles that bad, just remove them from the game. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.05.26 23:57:00 - [78] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. I am fine with a SCR nerf, but I really think you're going about it the wrong way. I made a thread on the subject of how to surgically nerf the SCR, and it has possible suggestions from many other players are features in there. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=203248&find=unread Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources Rise Of Legion. 442	Posted - 2015.05.27 17:45:00 - [79] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Summ Dude wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Summ Dude wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Can't help but notice the pseudo-strawman argument here: "It's a big task." "It" here would apparently be referring to every change you've just suggested. You'll notice however, that this thread was started with the intention of altering only the ScR. But you just mentioned multiple changes, several of which are virtually entirely unrelated, followed by "It's a big task." So, whether or not I agree with the OP, stating that the task requested will take some time, but then also including approximately 7 other tasks within that; it just doesn't really hold up. I think what he means by "it" is altering or tweaking factors within the game in general Hmmmmm shaky at best.... My point is, it's how a politician would phrase a statement. Or rather, how a politician would have a writer phrase a statement. The point being, why even bring up those other potential changes? They have literally nothing to do with this thread. So, community, ask yourself, why are they there? Or its how a lead dev who has a shitload of stuff to do and only limited time to do it in, while also not wanting to make balance even worse than it is, would say about his next release. Relax. I'm rather relaxed, just pointing out a fallacy. Whether a lead dev or not, nobody is beyond ridicule, right? But I believe that you're correct; he is dropping hints at what changes the next update may bring. But again, my question for everyone, is why is he doing this? Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros 2	Posted - 2015.05.27 18:43:00 - [80] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: ... and it didn't nerf the Scrambler Rifle? It's as simple as changing a few numbers in a spreadsheet, there is no reason for the SCR to have been this hilariously OP for this long, in fact it's just atrocious that this very painfully obvious imbalance continues to torment us. I know you need time to work out a proper solution to create some semblance of balance, but it's just been too long now. It only takes one match to realise that 1000 damage from 70 meters in 0.3 seconds is not fair, so why has it just been left like this for so long? Every single person I've spoken to about, or heard speak about, the SCR has said exactly the same thing: It's OP. So please - even if it's just a temporary change whilst you do all your notoriously half-arsed "testing" and stuff - reduce that damage, or RoF, or both maybe? I am sooo tired of hearing about the scrambler....If you want to complain about ridiculous OP how about those Nova Knives? They can one slice a heavy in no time. Now is a sidearm really supposed to do that much damage? Knives are fine, the damage isn't the problem. The problem is its reach which is like 2-3 metres which doesn't make sense. One meter in Dust statistics is like one foot in game. Also, the 2.75m or whatever it is accounts for the fact that people have arms and they can swing them. "Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.

Spaceman-Rob Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 807	Posted - 2015.05.27 18:46:00 - [81] - Quote Get it nerfed already. The gun is a pain in the backside of everybody but those who use it.
VikingKong iBUN 0uter.Heaven 398	Posted - 2015.05.27 20:40:00 - [82] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: ... and it didn't nerf the Scrambler Rifle? It's as simple as changing a few numbers in a spreadsheet, there is no reason for the SCR to have been this hilariously OP for this long, in fact it's just atrocious that this very painfully obvious imbalance continues to torment us. I know you need time to work out a proper solution to create some semblance of balance, but it's just been too long now. It only takes one match to realise that 1000 damage from 70 meters in 0.3 seconds is not fair, so why has it just been left like this for so long? Every single person I've spoken to about, or heard speak about, the SCR has said exactly the same thing: It's OP. So please - even if it's just a temporary change whilst you do all your notoriously half-arsed "testing" and stuff - reduce that damage, or RoF, or both maybe? I am sooo tired of hearing about the scrambler....If you want to complain about ridiculous OP how about those Nova Knives? They can one slice a heavy in no time. Now is a sidearm really supposed to do that much damage? Knives are fine, the damage isn't the problem. The problem is its reach which is like 2-3 metres which doesn't make sense. One meter in Dust statistics is like one foot in game. Also, the 2.75m or whatever it is accounts for the fact that people have arms and they can swing them. People do not have arms that are 2.75 meters long. I would like a Gallente SMG.
Dzago Sevatarion DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2015.05.27 23:45:00 - [83] - Quote I've been playing like a month and I've already seen two hotfixes? This is the best supported "ded gaem" [sic.] I've played. :D
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 501	Posted - 2015.05.28 02:52:00 - [84] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. noo Lord Rattati plz dont nerf SCR i have felling u know dont make cry u big meanie....RIP SCR.
Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 271	Posted - 2015.05.28 05:56:00 - [85] - Quote TACTAR doesn't need a buff..... Please, do not buff the rifle. You will create another FOTM if you do. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Ceadda Sai Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 92	Posted - 2015.05.28 07:52:00 - [86] - Quote Amarr weaponry is suppose to act and perform different then other factions weapons, if you wanted to make SCR less feasible then let's just have one weapon in that case (Sarcasm). Rather, how about players learning to diversify, learn to use other weapons then just sticking to P.R. or C.R. use the right tool for the right job... Forge Gunners: Now this is a gun for going out and and making people miserable with.
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 474	Posted - 2015.05.28 08:31:00 - [87] - Quote Faquira Bleuetta wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. youuuu stone hearted monster dont dare to nerf my SCR or ill cry to my death....RIP SCR. I'm sorry man but... Die, die, die
VikingKong iBUN 0uter.Heaven 399	Posted - 2015.05.28 13:08:00 - [88] - Quote Ceadda Sai wrote: Amarr weaponry is suppose to act and perform different then other factions weapons, if you wanted to make SCR less feasible then let's just have one weapon in that case (Sarcasm). Rather, how about players learning to diversify, learn to use other weapons then just sticking to P.R. or C.R. use the right tool for the right job... Acting and performing differently is obviously what each of the rifles is intended to do. Currently the SCR acts and performs differently in the sense that it kills everything faster than all other rifles, at long and short range. SCR is currently the right tool for every job, and that's the problem that the majority of people who play DUST have with it. I would like a Gallente SMG.
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 555	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:32:00 - [89] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: make ADS better at killing tanks really............not as if HAV turrets cant angle high enough to actually shoot them down without the use of the redline or some **** upo firing angle accuried by a hill.......that ends up being a waste of time when the ADS moves out of sights or insta pops fuel booster to go to flight ceiling......or sits over the top of the HAV and just rains never ending missiles or LOL op SML rails at you. honestly the ADS is in a good spot.......(just bring down the fuckn flight ceiling so its not an instant safe spot) please don't touch how the ADS operates. DONT even think about increasing their hp or speed. Elite Gallenten Soldier**


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