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Scrambler Rifle : Charge shot, with a brief followup. Overload the heat and user takes feedback damage. Heat buildup means you cannot fire the entire clip. Works best on an Amarr assaul suit, which can reduce heat buildup by 25% Damage Profile +20 vs shields - 20 vs armor, can go up to +35% vs shields at max profieciency.

Excellent for 1 vs 1 engagements at medium range, especially vs multiple lightly tanked enemies, such as scouts, and the caldari, the other long range suits.

Poor for sustained closequarter fighting, where the overheat becomes as dangerous as the enemies, which will lock you in place, or if your low on health kill you.

Because the weapon has so much nuance to it, rather than spray and pray many SCR users will defend it. It takes time to get used to, and rewarding once you get it down.

But i'm getting sick of the main motivation for forum warriors trying to nerf it, more or less along the lines of 'I don't like it nerf it.'

So Op, whats your plan? How do want it to be nerfed?

If I were The OP, I would suggest more dispersion when hipfiring to discourage CQC. maybe increased charge shot damage but decreased normal shot damage to discourage spam. Combo of the two perhaps?

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VikingKong iBUN 0uter.Heaven 389	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:35:00 - [1] - Quote ... and it didn't nerf the Scrambler Rifle? It's as simple as changing a few numbers in a spreadsheet, there is no reason for the SCR to have been this hilariously OP for this long, in fact it's just atrocious that this very painfully obvious imbalance continues to torment us. I know you need time to work out a proper solution to create some semblance of balance, but it's just been too long now. It only takes one match to realise that 1000 damage from 70 meters in 0.3 seconds is not fair, so why has it just been left like this for so long? Every single person I've spoken to about, or heard speak about, the SCR has said exactly the same thing: It's OP. So please - even if it's just a temporary change whilst you do all your notoriously half-arsed "testing" and stuff - reduce that damage, or RoF, or both maybe? I would like a Gallente SMG.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy No Context 4	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:38:00 - [2] - Quote Inb4 its not overused, so its OK. Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
4lbert Wesker Mithril Forge E-R-A 205	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:39:00 - [3] - Quote Yes,scrambler rifle is OP but you will get counter argument like this: "But Amarr assault is the only suit that can use it properly hurr durr" Public skirmish = camping games, Public domination = officer sniping games, Public ambush = russian roulette
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:40:00 - [4] - Quote Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
VikingKong iBUN 0uter.Heaven 389	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:44:00 - [5] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. Firing a charged shot is generally less effective than quickly tapping off half the clip in 0.3 seconds, what makes me rage most is when they don't charge shot me. I would like a Gallente SMG.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 886	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:45:00 - [6] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. It's clipsize has also been reduced. To OP: The scrambler rifle is not overpowered, so no change is needed. If Rattati comes out with evidence that it does need a nerf, then fair enough, but he hasn't. Even if it does need nerfing, it won't be by much. Rifle balancing issues? Add spool reduction to Caldari assault skill. Increase Gallente assault dispersion reduction to 7% per level. Job done.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 886	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:47:00 - [7] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. Firing a charged shot is generally less effective than quickly tapping off half the clip in 0.3 seconds, what makes me rage most is when they don't charge shot me. A Tac AR is better for this. Where are the "nerf Tac Ar" threads?
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.26 13:49:00 - [8] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. Firing a charged shot is generally less effective than quickly tapping off half the clip in 0.3 seconds, what makes me rage most is when they don't charge shot me. So you want the weapon to become the next Scp? Something that chokes on every shot? Hell no, never again. Come back when you find out something that doesn't happen to everyone. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 791	Posted - 2015.05.26 14:01:00 - [9] - Quote Stop trying to nerf stuff and start trying to buff stuff. Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2015.05.26 14:19:00 - [10] - Quote I'm doing what every other SCR user should be doing, getting as good as I was with the SCR, with the laser rifle. Although for some reason last night I decided to use my 500K saved up for laser prof 5 and get shield recharge 3 on my ak.0... not that prof 5 will do much, shields melt anyway, it's the armour that you need help getting through.

Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2015.05.26 14:20:00 - [11] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Yes,scrambler rifle is OP but you will get counter argument like this: "But Amarr assault is the only suit that can use it properly hurr durr" which is completely true and valid.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.05.26 14:29:00 - [12] - Quote Dude, you can literally switch ScR for ACR. It's been allowed to wreck face since it was introduced. You can nerf the ScR without making it useless, it needs a proper balance not a straight up nerf. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:05:00 - [13] - Quote Scrambler Rifle : Charge shot, with a brief followup. Overload the heat and user takes feedback damage. Heat buildup means you cannot fire the entire clip. Works best on an Amarr assaul suit, which can reduce heat buildup by 25% Damage Profile +20 vs shields - 20 vs armor, can go up to +35% vs shields at max profieciency. Excellent for 1 vs 1 engagements at medium range, especially vs multiple lightly tanked enemies, such as scouts, and the caldari, the other long range suits. Poor for sustained closequarter fighting, where the overheat becomes as dangerous as the enemies, which will lock you in place, or if your low on health kill you. Because the weapon has so much nuance to it, rather than spray and pray many SCR users will defend it. It takes time to get used to, and rewarding once you get it down. But i'm getting sick of the main motivation for forum warriors trying to nerf it, more or less along the lines of 'I don't like it nerf it.' So Op, whats your plan? How do want it to be nerfed? Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 541	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:07:00 - [14] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Yes,scrambler rifle is OP but you will get counter argument like this: "But Amarr assault is the only suit that can use it properly hurr durr" Well that's the case, isn't it? Click me
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:10:00 - [15] - Quote If they touch the ScR they will have to touch the ACR/CR. Things have been nerf proof since they were introduced. The Forums are a special place.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 541	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:11:00 - [16] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Scrambler Rifle : Charge shot, with a brief followup. Overload the heat and user takes feedback damage. Heat buildup means you cannot fire the entire clip. Works best on an Amarr assaul suit, which can reduce heat buildup by 25% Damage Profile +20 vs shields - 20 vs armor, can go up to +35% vs shields at max profieciency. Excellent for 1 vs 1 engagements at medium range, especially vs multiple lightly tanked enemies, such as scouts, and the caldari, the other long range suits. Poor for sustained closequarter fighting, where the overheat becomes as dangerous as the enemies, which will lock you in place, or if your low on health kill you. Because the weapon has so much nuance to it, rather than spray and pray many SCR users will defend it. It takes time to get used to, and rewarding once you get it down. But i'm getting sick of the main motivation for forum warriors trying to nerf it, more or less along the lines of 'I don't like it nerf it.' So Op, whats your plan? How do want it to be nerfed? If I were The OP, I would suggest more dispersion when hipfiring to discourage CQC. maybe increased charge shot damage but decreased normal shot damage to discourage spam. Combo of the two perhaps? Click me
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 410	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:19:00 - [17] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Its damage has been nerf twice and its ROF. It has been given vertical kick( could use some horizontal ) and its heat build up has been increase. The only logical fix that is needed is a delay after firing a charged shot. Firing a charged shot is generally less effective than quickly tapping off half the clip in 0.3 seconds, what makes me rage most is when they don't charge shot me. i dont mind the carge shots that takes skill but the turbo controller using fgts are the ones that **** me off Moo? . . . Le Moo?
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 828	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:19:00 - [18] - Quote Well, the Assault Rifle vs stacked armor plates is LOL redonkulus. Great vs shield scouts, terrible vs armor.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:31:00 - [19] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Scrambler Rifle : Charge shot, with a brief followup. Overload the heat and user takes feedback damage. Heat buildup means you cannot fire the entire clip. Works best on an Amarr assaul suit, which can reduce heat buildup by 25% Damage Profile +20 vs shields - 20 vs armor, can go up to +35% vs shields at max profieciency. Excellent for 1 vs 1 engagements at medium range, especially vs multiple lightly tanked enemies, such as scouts, and the caldari, the other long range suits. Poor for sustained closequarter fighting, where the overheat becomes as dangerous as the enemies, which will lock you in place, or if your low on health kill you. Because the weapon has so much nuance to it, rather than spray and pray many SCR users will defend it. It takes time to get used to, and rewarding once you get it down. But i'm getting sick of the main motivation for forum warriors trying to nerf it, more or less along the lines of 'I don't like it nerf it.' So Op, whats your plan? How do want it to be nerfed? If I were The OP, I would suggest more dispersion when hipfiring to discourage CQC. maybe increased charge shot damage but decreased normal shot damage to discourage spam. Combo of the two perhaps? Actually...... why not? Increased kick certainly helped with the rail rifle close combat scourge. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 23	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:34:00 - [20] - Quote I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 542	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:36:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. ^ see? fast isn't he? Click me
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:48:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. What about the other variants of the other races rifles... Like a breach Scr would be nice (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 542	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:56:00 - [23] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. What about the other variants of the other races rifles... Like a breach Scr would be nice That and the burst ScR Click me
Michael Epic Horizons' Edge No Context 920	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:12:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: make ADS better at killing tanks You're trying to romance me, aren't you? Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
Echo 1991 Dead Man's Game 825	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:12:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. Did you change the ion pistol fitting skill yet?
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415 257	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:12:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. My three roles... I'm be playing in Imposible mode all the time >_> -- LKC -- Tomate Pote --
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:16:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. This post made me wet myself Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:18:00 - [28] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I intend for the next rifle pass to be last in a while, so need more time. all Ga rifles will get a buff, especially the base variant, scrambler will get a higher charged multiplier, lower dps and TAR/SCR will be brought closer together on the hip fire kick&dispersion. I want to do something for the other weapons, try for MN and AM HAVs, and tiericide/logi/commandos, make ADS better at killing tanks It's a big task. This post made me wet myself Ditto. /me hands you spare towel. @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 289	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:22:00 - [29] - Quote My only gripe is being blapped by my allies weapon constantly. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 23	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:25:00 - [30] - Quote Devadander wrote: My only gripe is being blapped by my allies weapon constantly. I can relate, FW and my playstyle are not compatible at all. I must curb my bloodlust, and I do not like it. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"




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