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CHET CHEWS
Murphys-Law
92
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Posted - 2015.05.22 21:11:00 -
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Well well well... Here we go again, who will you vote for? Post down bellow ina non-sarcasic way
FU CHET CHEWS- Sumar load 2014-2015
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
748
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Posted - 2015.05.22 21:12:00 -
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My sig. It's glowing!
The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
6
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Posted - 2015.05.22 21:15:00 -
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Didn't we already elect CPM 2, like, last year?
Some details can be ignored
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.22 21:19:00 -
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I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm.
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp
Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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SLENDER M4N
Murphys-Law
487
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Posted - 2015.05.22 21:31:00 -
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I will be voting for Bamm Havoc b/c reasons
Roman said he would give me candy, I recieved a rainbow trout from his fishing trips instead. Am disappoint
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10
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Posted - 2015.05.22 21:36:00 -
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If Pokey Dravon runs he has my vote. Also, I will vote for myself.
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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G Clone
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
118
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Posted - 2015.05.22 22:28:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm. Aero - we're still working on a FW Proposal document, similar to the 2 previous proposals we showed on this forum. If you have ideas, I'm more than willing to listen :) |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9
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Posted - 2015.05.22 22:37:00 -
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Would support without second thought: Cross Atu Pokey Dravon
Jolly Roger
Haerr Kevall Longstride
Fox Gaden IWS True Adamance Aero Yassavi Ripley Riley
Would strongly oppose: Zatara Judge
Would likely oppose: Aeon Amadi Cat Merc Sgt Kirk
Undecided: Soraya Xel Sir Man Boy
* Strikethroughs do not intent to run (at present)
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.22 22:45:00 -
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G Clone wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm. Aero - we're still working on a FW Proposal document, similar to the 2 previous proposals we showed on this forum. If you have ideas, I'm more than willing to listen :) Where to discuss? I have two separate documents myself, one from 2013 and one from just winter.
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp
Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
7
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Posted - 2015.05.22 22:46:00 -
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Who do we have in the running? I'll keep Cross, IWS, SMB
Add a Pokey, toss in a Aero for good measure.
Not sure about much else
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.05.22 22:47:00 -
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I can tell you that this election is going to be a much easier decision than the 2016 Presidential Elections.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.05.22 23:48:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm. At this point you would have to do something to lose my vote, for whatever that is worth.
From all I have seen you would be a good candidate.
Even if you are Amarr.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
8
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Posted - 2015.05.23 00:01:00 -
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i think there will be a lot more judge rad's this year. he shown people are simple minded and as long as they are shown pretty pictures they will listen...
i would like to see Aeon Amadi get on just because he is so bat sh*t crazy i think it will be at least entertaining to watch what happens...
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
Get Dust ISK Here
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Terry Webber
Molon Labe. RUST415
700
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:04:00 -
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I would definitely vote for Pokey if he decides to run. |
G Clone
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2015.05.23 01:19:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:G Clone wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm. Aero - we're still working on a FW Proposal document, similar to the 2 previous proposals we showed on this forum. If you have ideas, I'm more than willing to listen :) Where to discuss? I have two separate documents myself, one from 2013 and one from just winter. Erhm, I thought my contact details were easily available and known, from my past activities - we're not really allowed to share RL credentials here, but I'll go out on a limb and say you can catch me on DUST514 @ thang.dk (remove spaces, naturally) Bammsters, at my insistence, use Google Docs for writing, and Google Chat/Google Hangouts for communication; if you're able to use same, I'm willing to arrange something. Initially will be a quick chat, to ensure we're all on the same page, but afterwards will see that we have a shared Google Doc to pile stuff into and use for discussion. To that end, you'll need a Google account....
Our target with the FW Proposal is medio-June, which is only giving us 2-3 weeks for everything - certainly doable, but better to not waste time |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 02:45:00 -
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I promise to do my duty as a fully fledged mighty morphin power ranger.
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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VALCORE72
Vengeance Unbound RUST415
329
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Posted - 2015.05.23 03:33:00 -
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no one vote and lets see what happens lol |
Cursed Faith
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2015.05.23 03:35:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I promise to do my duty as a fully fledged mighty morphin power ranger. Sgt Kirk run for CPM and change FW for us <3
Amarr Alt of Golden Day.
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Diablo Gamekeeper
Escrow Removal and Acquisition No Context
274
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Posted - 2015.05.23 03:43:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm. This guy if he runs
I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 03:52:00 -
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Cursed Faith wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I promise to do my duty as a fully fledged mighty morphin power ranger. Sgt Kirk run for CPM and change FW for us <3 FW is literally my baby.
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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SLENDER M4N
Murphys-Law
490
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Posted - 2015.05.23 04:09:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I promise to do my duty as a fully fledged mighty morphin power ranger. Can I be the pink power ranger!?
Roman said he would give me candy, I recieved a rainbow trout from his fishing trips instead. Am disappoint
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 04:39:00 -
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SLENDER M4N wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I promise to do my duty as a fully fledged mighty morphin power ranger. Can I be the pink power ranger!? Yes!
And I'll be the Black Power Ranger! No, it's just a coincidence both my skin and suit are black!
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Cursed Faith
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2015.05.23 04:51:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:SLENDER M4N wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I promise to do my duty as a fully fledged mighty morphin power ranger. Can I be the pink power ranger!? Yes! And I'll be the Black Power Ranger! No, it's just a coincidence both my skin and suit are black! NO!!!
Im black ranger!
My afro even matches it!
Amarr Alt of Golden Day.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 04:54:00 -
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Cursed Faith wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:SLENDER M4N wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I promise to do my duty as a fully fledged mighty morphin power ranger. Can I be the pink power ranger!? Yes! And I'll be the Black Power Ranger! No, it's just a coincidence both my skin and suit are black! NO!!! Im black ranger! My afro even matches it! Is there a brown ranger?
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 05:07:00 -
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Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm. This guy if he runs Are they even doing CPM2 though?
Oh and I'd day FW is way more my baby than Kirk's
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp
Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.05.23 05:10:00 -
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Either way Dust FW needs to be buffed in EVE and here >:P
Im just a glorified blueberry
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SLENDER M4N
Murphys-Law
492
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Posted - 2015.05.23 05:17:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:SLENDER M4N wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I promise to do my duty as a fully fledged mighty morphin power ranger. Can I be the pink power ranger!? Yes! And I'll be the Black Power Ranger! No, it's just a coincidence both my skin and suit are black! Yay! Now give me a reason why I should vote for you.
Roman said he would give me candy, I recieved a rainbow trout from his fishing trips instead. Am disappoint
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
2
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Posted - 2015.05.23 05:51:00 -
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Hello there....
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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Athra
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.05.23 06:03:00 -
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WE MUST HAVE A CPM WHO WILL BUFF FW!!! |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2015.05.23 07:10:00 -
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- Cross - Dude is about as diplomatic and level headed as you get
- SirManBoy - Always a joy to talk to and has head head on straight, just wish he talked more but would still be a good candidate
- Kevall Longstride - Not a whole lot on the public front but the dude knows how to deal with CCP. Very valuable.
- Zaria Min Dier - A firecracker but knows her **** very well. Not to mention can hold her own very well in a debate, even when things get heated.
- Iron Wolf Saber - Dude typically fails at communicating in a fashion which is understandable by normal humans, but he's done good work in the past continues to do so even now.
There are more, but its Friday and I'm tired so....another time.
Also it's too early to really get into it, but I can't think of any reason why I wouldn't run for CPM2
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
www.biomassed.net
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 07:12:00 -
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SLENDER M4N wrote: Yay! Now give me a reason why I should vote for you.
To me, DUST 514 is one of the last gleaming diamonds in the age of terribad Triple AAA games that are so cookie cutter and bland you can't tell one from the next annual money grab.
This game is so unbelievably dynamic and so full of potential that I just can't leave it alone. I've been with this game since the near beginning of Mordu's Trials. In the three years leading up to know I for some reason adopted a non FotM behavior that, to my detriment, caused me to become unbelievably angry at this game. More so than I have an other game I've played, and contrary to how I come off on the forums I'm a pretty patient guy so for a game to make me angry to the point of refusing to play it takes quite a bit of work. Regardless of the age of Apocalypse dropships, lasers, raining orbitals etc. even in those eras of near unplayable gameplay I still wanted to come back, a lot of us did.
I came back, because this game offered something that no other game offers. A feeling of personal progression and possession and lore so intricate and depthless you can just get lost in it and don't even have to play the game to enjoy the world of New Eden.
And it doesn't just stop at the gameplay itself but this community is so great I don't even have to play the game and just chat away with any guys in my various chat channels and have a good time and good laughs. I've made good friends and lasting relationships in this game and along the way helped me cope with some things going on in my personal life. Even on the forums, the communication between our players, nothing comes close to it that I know we get down each others throats from time to time but I really do appreciate most of you guys and the entertainment and feedback we provide.
I'm just rambling about how much I love this game and CCP and I'll explain about the why now.
Point is, I love this game deeply. There's a personal attachment to this game that I have and want to help make it better. As a long time player of this game I've experienced first hand what does and does not work and will hopefully do my best to steer us clear of the repeated mistakes that we are still suffering from.
I started out as a scrub, worked my way up, waged war against an alliance that had complete control of the star map just to become the the new enemy to control the entire starmap to fight off the remaining player base that joined together to defeat our EoN alliance which we still won and eventually fell victim to the release of the ps4, boredom and stagnicity which DUST suffered from at the time. After all that I went into Fatal Absolution and did what I always did but now I felt a need to not just go where the good players. I became tired of blueing up with all the good players in an alliance and then wonder "why is there no competition?" I decided to carve my own path and started training up new players and getting more active in FW as a means to since FW is the bridge between Pubs and PC and we will officially create a Lucent Echelon corporation when everything is ready in place.
Now the point of all that rambling is to explain that I know how it is. Starting out is absolutely terrible, it's not fun and it should be a heck of a lot easier on newer guys than it is now. Even with the improvements to the NPE we still could do better.
I also know the importance and great feeling of triumphance and thrill when you win as the underdog or stomp out the opposition as a ruler and now, the helping trying to teach players how to get more organized to go up against higher tier players. My heart is where FW is but I understand and know from experience that these game modes need improvements to them in general. Also understand that just because I desperately want FW in a better state doesn't mean it will happen, CPM doesn't have the magical power of always convincing the game developers to do specifically what one person may want to do.
Once again, I apologize for randomly ranting, It's 3am here and I should probably stop trying to talk and just wait for me to make a coherent post for you.
Urgh, I'll just post highlights before I keel over in my chair.
- Importance of Lore is highly important with me and should be evident in the game / parallels with EVE - Lore must not get in the way of fun and balance - There is room for translation and compromise
- Active with the community - Active within the game itself - Veteran experience with DUST 514 being here for 3 years - Extremely familiar with this game - Not biased, as much as people love to get my ingrained Gallente Role Play heavily confused with complete "OP" dominance. A flavor of the month eviornemnt is extremely unhealthy for any game .
- Listens to people - Talks to people - I'm not one for holding things back. Unless it's covered in NDA I will let you know what's going on and I will make damn sure that your problems are being acknowledged. - I've got no problem acknowledging that I'm wrong or have been wrong regardless of what some would like to think. - I'm Straightforward - I am a DUST 514 player
Negatives:
- I will say though I don't feel I have many, just a really big one. My biggest, glaring negative is being hot tempered when dealing with certain people my patience drops to near zero when offended and I've been working on that heavily.
- I sometimes get tunnel vision with some ideas of mine but luckily I have my skype channels I talk to to try and see any errors of my ideas before I post them on the forums.
- I'm only a Sergeant and not a Captain.
I wish I could type more but I should really sleep, work tomorrow. I think a Podcast or live text chat Q & A would be most appropriate for this kind of question.
Anywho, night guys. Special appreciation if you actually managed to read through that incoherent rabble of a post.
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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G Clone
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2015.05.23 07:17:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:
- Iron Wolf Saber - Dude typically fails at communicating
Trying to get him elected, or get him hired by CCP? |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 07:19:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm. This guy if he runs Are they even doing CPM2 though? Oh and I'd day FW is way more my baby than Kirk's FW can be our Love Child.
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2015.05.23 07:39:00 -
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G Clone wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:
- Iron Wolf Saber - Dude typically fails at communicating
Trying to get him elected, or get him hired by CCP?
Haha fair point. There is a fine art to understanding IWSaberese. Even I'm not fluent in it, and I talk with him fairly frequently on Biomassed.
No doubt that he's there to communicate....just sometimes needs a translator to get the job done.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
www.biomassed.net
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
2
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Posted - 2015.05.23 07:57:00 -
[35] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:SLENDER M4N wrote: Yay! Now give me a reason why I should vote for you. To me, DUST 514 is one of the last gleaming diamonds in the age of terribad Triple AAA games that are so cookie cutter and bland you can't tell one from the next annual money grab. This game is so unbelievably dynamic and so full of potential that I just can't leave it alone. I've been with this game since the near beginning of Mordu's Trials. In the three years leading up to know I for some reason adopted a non FotM behavior that, to my detriment, caused me to become unbelievably angry at this game. More so than I have an other game I've played, and contrary to how I come off on the forums I'm a pretty patient guy so for a game to make me angry to the point of refusing to play it takes quite a bit of work. Regardless of the age of Apocalypse dropships, lasers, raining orbitals etc. even in those eras of near unplayable gameplay I still wanted to come back, a lot of us did. I came back, because this game offered something that no other game offers. A feeling of personal progression and possession and lore so intricate and depthless you can just get lost in it and don't even have to play the game to enjoy the world of New Eden. And it doesn't just stop at the gameplay itself but this community is so great I don't even have to play the game and just chat away with any guys in my various chat channels and have a good time and good laughs. I've made good friends and lasting relationships in this game and along the way helped me cope with some things going on in my personal life. Even on the forums, the communication between our players, nothing comes close to it that I know we get down each others throats from time to time but I really do appreciate most of you guys and the entertainment and feedback we provide. I'm just rambling about how much I love this game and CCP and I'll explain about the why now. Point is, I love this game deeply. There's a personal attachment to this game that I have and want to help make it better. As a long time player of this game I've experienced first hand what does and does not work and will hopefully do my best to steer us clear of the repeated mistakes that we are still suffering from. Snip - Importance of Lore is highly important with me and should be evident in the game / parallels with EVE - Lore must not get in the way of fun and balance - There is room for translation and compromise - Active with the community - Active within the game itself - Veteran experience with DUST 514 being here for 3 years - Extremely familiar with this game - Not biased, as much as people love to get my ingrained Gallente Role Play heavily confused with complete "OP" dominance. A flavor of the month eviornemnt is extremely unhealthy for any game . - Listens to people - Talks to people - I'm not one for holding things back. Unless it's covered in NDA I will let you know what's going on and I will make damn sure that your problems are being acknowledged. - I've got no problem acknowledging that I'm wrong or have been wrong regardless of what some would like to think. - I'm Straightforward - I am a DUST 514 player Negatives: - I will say though I don't feel I have many, just a really big one. My biggest, glaring negative is being hot tempered when dealing with certain people my patience drops to near zero when offended and I've been working on that heavily. - I sometimes get tunnel vision with some ideas of mine but luckily I have my skype channels I talk to to try and see any errors of my ideas before I post them on the forums. - I'm only a Sergeant and not a Captain. I wish I could type more but I should really sleep, work tomorrow. I think a Podcast or live text chat Q & A would be most appropriate for this kind of question. Anywho, night guys. Special appreciation if you actually managed to read through that incoherent rabble of a post. If you do run, it'll be sad not having you back me like the last elections
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
3
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Posted - 2015.05.23 08:55:00 -
[36] - Quote
Bam Hammock gets my vote Sidenote: For iskies/trade goodies I will run smear campaigns against those you oppose. Whoever they may be. XD
The ButtPirates Now Accepting Applications. XD
TheYoutube
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8
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Posted - 2015.05.23 10:01:00 -
[37] - Quote
Until CCP announces a pending election, this is all very neat but very pointless.
I personally believe that there is a very thin likelihood that CCP will announce any changes to the CPM before the final fate of DUST is decided and the game is either ported or put on the roster for joining the PS3 in sunset.
I'd be willing to run if I saw any evidence thst DUST will be here after the PS 3 gets taken behind the woodshed and put down gently to spare it the agony of a slow death.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
Dark Matter Division
15
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:36:00 -
[38] - Quote
At the Moment my vote will more than likely go to Sgt Kirk, FW is the future, in Dust 514, in Legion, in EvE. However i can see why others will be concerned about him being a CPM. Try to put grudges to one side and think about what he has already contributed. His videos alone show the extent to how effective weapons and tactics can be, he's a dedicated Gallente highly valued asset and Caldari target, he gets a large majority of Gallente FW players to help jump FW (or will do now). he's a main who speaks his mind, and his 'hot temperament' just shows his passion for New Eden.
ok so to balance this heres some Caldari smack talk,
Your stockpile of Bons and Ratty gk0's wont save you from the might of The State Kirk, ner ner
terminated
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G Clone
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
123
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:50:00 -
[39] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:Until CCP announces a pending election, this is all very neat but very pointless.
I personally believe that there is a very thin likelihood that CCP will announce any changes to the CPM before the final fate of DUST is decided and the game is either ported or put on the roster for joining the PS3 in sunset.
I'd be willing to run if I saw any evidence thst DUST will be here after the PS 3 gets taken behind the woodshed and put down gently to spare it the agony of a slow death. One of the current CPM's reaction to Pyrex' video "announcing" Bamm Havoc's candidacy (...) very much left me with the impression of that particular CPM member knowing/expecting that there will be no CPM2 election for whichever reason. |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.05.23 12:18:00 -
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I will vote for anyone that will try to campaign to bring back Scout and Logistics vehicles! SLAV, LLAV, LDS.
Isn't it about time we got the ORANGE ARMOUR REPAIR GLOW back?
How about fairness for shields - Shield hives and shield transfer tools! *Rabble rabble*
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9
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Posted - 2015.05.23 14:07:00 -
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@ Aero, Kirk and FW Lovers - This post blew my mind :-)
MINA Longstrike wrote:Been playing a little mechwarrior online (as I finally have a working computer again)... Holy crap their faction warfare is everything I wish dust fw would be.
So upon clicking 'faction warfare' for the first time you're given a selection of the ~10 factions available, after selecting one you can sign up for a 7day, 14day, 28day or permanent contract (it's possible to break all of these, even the permanent one). The 7day gives +0% extra loyalty points, the 14day is IIRC +20% loyalty, the 28 +30%, and the permanent +50%. From there you're given a selection of planets (along with a list of attackers and defenders fighting for / queuing in the same planet). When you choose a planet you can then choose to attack it either solo, or with your squad (4ppl) or any number up to a 12man deployment which puts you into a lobby up until there's a full group. Once a full group of attackers is formed the opposition is given a "X PLANET IS UNDER ATTACK JOIN TO DEFEND IT!" warning and 10 mins to assemble a group.
From there it goes to a 'protect the area' style match, where the defenders can win by timing the match out or killing all their attackers (each players gets a drop deck of 4 mechs ranging from 160t to 240t total... essentially it's like being given a set number of clones per individual player, let's say 16 clones once you're out you cant spawn in anymore). The attackers win by destroying what amounts to the 'MCC' of the area.
If the attackers win, the next battle on the district is a 'counter attack', where the objective is basically an ambush style match - kill more of your opponents than they kill of you.
After a certain amount of time passes (there's certain allowed attack / defense / cease fire phases that cycle every hour or so) if the attackers hold more districts on a planet, they flip it to their control. If the defenders hold more, they retain control of it. If you control a planet, you can attack the planets adjacent to it.
It's such an awesome system and I think with some work, something resembling it could be implemented in dust.
It's also possible to form up for 'defense' matches too, which gives a ping to people going 'come attack this place' and just being signed up to a faction causes you to recieve constant pings about what planets need defenders / attackers. It also tosses you into a 'militia' channel where you can organize things (for example we had ~250 people attacking/defending a single planet earlier). Oh and I forgot to mention - If you go to attack a place and an enemy team doesn't form up to counter you within 10 minutes, you get deployed without any opposition, allowing you to rapidly take territory if there's no opposition.
Your LP/isk (equivalent) gains have a set payout for winning a match, and an additional payout based on your in-match performance.
Shoot scout with yes.
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Posted - 2015.05.23 14:39:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote: - I've got no problem acknowledging that I'm wrong or have been wrong regardless of what some would like to think.
Kirk Alert! Your true colors are showing already. Who cares what the rabble think, right?
Sgt Kirk wrote:90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots ^ Community Representative material? Click here for 5 pages of you calling us idiots.
Your good friend Zatara successfully ran a "I'm humble now!" campaign. He's got an ego like you've got a temper, and once elected, it immediately showed. People will say whatever it takes to get a vote. You say you're open-minded now. That you listen to people. That you're working on your hot temper. I hope you are. And if you get elected, I really hope you are.
But after Zatara, I'm not inclined to believe you (you and he are good friends, right?). I'm more inclined to believe that you'll be exactly who you've always been, and that someone is plain to see in your post history.
TL;DR: I think you have good ideas, Kirk, but I think you'd be a terrible community representative.
Shoot scout with yes.
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Squagga
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Posted - 2015.05.23 15:04:00 -
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Vote Squagga for CPM .. Whatever
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.23 15:11:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:... this community is so great I don't even have to play the game Sgt Kirk wrote:90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots ^ Community Representative material? Click here for 5 more pages of you calling us idiots. Your good friend Zatara successfully ran a "I'm humble now!" campaign. He's got an ego like you've got a temper, and once elected, it immediately showed. People will say whatever it takes to get a vote. You say you're open-minded now. That you listen to people. That you're working on your hot temper. I hope you are. And if you get elected, I really hope you are. But after Zatara, I'm not inclined to believe you (you and he are good friends, right?). I'm more inclined to believe that you'll be exactly who you've always been, and that someone is plain to see in your post history. TL;DR: I think you have good ideas, Kirk, but I think you'd be a terrible community representative. Zatara isn't even my corporation leader anymore, he's an alright guy and I got along with him but I definitely would not say I'm good friends with him like you put it. He left the game as CPM and that doesn't sit well with me.
Also, that quote. Yep. It's nowhere near 90% I remember saying that when I was in one of my frustrated moods. No right to say it as nasty as it was back then but that's defiantly one of the anger points I've been working on.
Also, yeah, its pretty clear that I listen to people, I've backed off proposals and changed them entirely because the community explained that they weren't the best ideas.
But amongst all your post that put me in negative light I guarantee you there are four times as many post that are in a good favor and besides posting in the barbershop I haven't been angry in a good long second. You pay attention to what you wish to find and everything isn't all gloom and doom as you wish to find.
But back to Zatara, once again. Not trying to be dismissive of Zatara i respected his goal of trying to beat the big dogs back then and that's why i enlisted but my home was Synergy Gaming, that's where i peaked in full enjoyment of the game. Once it dissolved, i just needed a temporary place to go to be my corporation and FA ended up being a longer than expected stay due to lack of corporations. If you guys think FA guys are toxic the things I've seen make me blush compared to that. With us making a new corporation soon i will soon call that my home but I am not "good friends" with anybody in this game besides about 8 people. Most of whom I am forming the corp with.
Lastly, I am not Zatara. I wouldn't dare leave the game for a casual, soulless, "AAA" game like destiny. The only thing that would keep my from this game is real life issues and I'm a man of commitment. When you say you're going to take up a job by god you better do your damn job to the fullest extent.
Right now he's still trying to find a game to go to and what a surprise, there's not much out there anymore.
P.S. Just saw your "list" and a lot of those are in the same exact threads being duplicated by quotes in said threads.
Really dude?
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.05.23 15:27:00 -
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It feels odd to watch yourself potentially get replaced.
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.05.23 15:28:00 -
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Any person who sees Fw as the actually game mode to work on instead of PC has my vote.
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.05.23 15:36:00 -
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My views on PC are fairly well known.
FW if done right could be the silver bullet as far as getting the eve players interested in Dust again.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.23 15:40:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:My views on PC are fairly well known.
FW if done right could be the silver bullet as far as getting the eve players interested in Dust again. Believe it or not there are plenty of EVE pilots that dont even know about dropping orbitals for LP. When I tell the guys in militia chat they are like "WHOA WHAT THE **** REALLY!?"
It's a great opportunity to generate Loyalty points, especially for an EVE scrub like me who can't fight.
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.05.23 15:42:00 -
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Fanfest was full of them.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.23 15:44:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:My views on PC are fairly well known. FW if done right could be the silver bullet as far as getting the eve players interested in Dust again. Next time Rattati starts discussing PC as the marquee feature of DUST 514 just roll up a magazine, bop him on the muzzle, then say "No!" in a firm, authoritative voice. Explain FW to him and how incredible it could be if we paid it any attention.
Please, Kevall.
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Posted - 2015.05.23 16:04:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote: But amongst all your post that put me in negative light I guarantee you there are four times as many post that are in a good favor
My posts put you in a negative light? These are your posts. For 3 years you call us idiots, and all of a sudden you're ready to listen to what we have say? Cross Atu listens to what we have to say; he's arguably the best community representative we've ever had. Find for me the posts where Cross can be found calling other players "idiots".
Cross's post history perfectly mirrors his performance as CPM. If that pattern held true for you, what might we expect?
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.23 16:24:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote: But amongst all your post that put me in negative light ...
My posts put you in a negative light? These are your posts. For 3 years you call us idiots, and all of a sudden you're ready to listen to what we have say? Cross Atu listens to what we have to say; he's arguably the best community representative we've ever had. Find for me the posts where Cross can be found calling other players "idiots". Cross's post history perfectly mirrors his performance as CPM. If that pattern held true for you, what might we expect? Im Driving but 1 quick point. I've always come to the forums to talk. You thinking me not liking anybody wouldn't even lead to me not seeking feedback anyway.
Since you like digging up things find the post where I ask for help and feedback. You had a point with the anger problems but saying I dont acquire feedback and listen is a flat out lie.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.05.23 16:51:00 -
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From what I've been able to determine, bad players like IWS and Soraya contribute pretty much nothing. Forum warriors like Breakin Stuff are also largely clueless and would make for a terrible CPM. IWS at least is able to maintain a degree of popularity due to the regularity of how much he posts, but nothing more.
I believe that there should be a new rule that anyone with less than a 2.0 KDR and 40,000 kills should be barred from running as they clearly have a substandard grasp of how the game works, and are simply looking for acknowledgement and attention. Even when they work hard, the ideas they present can be largely toxic. Pure democracy is a bad solution to any problem, and it should always be reinforced with logical standards. People can be very stupid, after all.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.05.23 17:03:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:From what I've been able to determine, bad players like IWS and Soraya contribute pretty much nothing. Forum warriors like Breakin Stuff are also largely clueless and would make for a terrible CPM. IWS at least is able to maintain a degree of popularity due to the regularity of how much he posts, but nothing more.
I believe that there should be a new rule that anyone with less than a 2.0 KDR and 40,000 kills should be barred from running as they clearly have a substandard grasp of how the game works, and are simply looking for acknowledgement and attention. Even when they work hard, the ideas they present can be largely toxic. Pure democracy is a bad solution to any problem, and it should always be reinforced with logical standards. People can be very stupid, after all. Then by all means your "requiments" should be considered a "bad solution" since kdr shows no correlation with knowledge of the game.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.05.23 17:16:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:G Clone wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:
- Iron Wolf Saber - Dude typically fails at communicating
Trying to get him elected, or get him hired by CCP? Haha fair point. There is a fine art to understanding IWSaberese. Even I'm not fluent in it, and I talk with him fairly frequently on Biomassed. No doubt that he's there to communicate....just sometimes needs a translator to get the job done. I've translated many an IWS post in my days hereGǪ This is why I consistently believe him to be a good CPM If you can understand IWS, it's easier to see what he is good at what he does.
Separate note. SMB may be somewhat introverted, but what is brought to the table matters. Quiet folks often have great contributions, sadly people don't always have the opportunity to recognize these contributions. I hope that existing people make SMB contributions known.
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Sennina Sovereign
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In all honesty, I'd vote for Saxonmish. |
Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.23 17:43:00 -
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Sennina Sovereign wrote:In all honesty, I'd vote for Saxonmish. You have multiple votes. Not just one
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Posted - 2015.05.23 17:45:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:G Clone wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:
- Iron Wolf Saber - Dude typically fails at communicating
Trying to get him elected, or get him hired by CCP? Haha fair point. There is a fine art to understanding IWSaberese. Even I'm not fluent in it, and I talk with him fairly frequently on Biomassed. No doubt that he's there to communicate....just sometimes needs a translator to get the job done. I've translated many an IWS post in my days hereGǪ This is why I consistently believe him to be a good CPM If you can understand IWS, it's easier to see what he is good at what he does. Separate note. SMB may be somewhat introverted, but what is brought to the table matters. Quiet folks often have great contributions, sadly people don't always have the opportunity to recognize these contributions. I hope that existing people make SMB contributions known. I'd really like to know more about Sir Man Boy's contributions to CPM1. His community interaction has been sparse, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.05.23 17:47:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:From what I've been able to determine, bad players like IWS and Soraya contribute pretty much nothing. Forum warriors like Breakin Stuff are also largely clueless and would make for a terrible CPM. IWS at least is able to maintain a degree of popularity due to the regularity of how much he posts, but nothing more.
I believe that there should be a new rule that anyone with less than a 2.0 KDR and 40,000 kills should be barred from running as they clearly have a substandard grasp of how the game works, and are simply looking for acknowledgement and attention. Even when they work hard, the ideas they present can be largely toxic. Pure democracy is a bad solution to any problem, and it should always be reinforced with logical standards. People can be very stupid, after all.
You heard it here first people!
Himiko clearly has the community in mind whenever he speaks!
Let's play a game... How many personal attacks can YOU find in this post?
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2015.05.23 18:08:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:G Clone wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:
- Iron Wolf Saber - Dude typically fails at communicating
Trying to get him elected, or get him hired by CCP? Haha fair point. There is a fine art to understanding IWSaberese. Even I'm not fluent in it, and I talk with him fairly frequently on Biomassed. No doubt that he's there to communicate....just sometimes needs a translator to get the job done. I've translated many an IWS post in my days hereGǪ This is why I consistently believe him to be a good CPM If you can understand IWS, it's easier to see what he is good at what he does. Separate note. SMB may be somewhat introverted, but what is brought to the table matters. Quiet folks often have great contributions, sadly people don't always have the opportunity to recognize these contributions. I hope that existing people make SMB contributions known.
Agreed on both fronts. We have SMB on Biomassed ever so often and he's always quite insightful, and I've been told he does quite well inside the council chambers so to speak.....just wish he was more vocal publicly.
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.05.23 18:45:00 -
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There are a worrying number of you saying X will have my vote.
A lot of players did that last time not realising they had up to seven votes in the order you like the candidates in. Bear that mind when choosing candidates.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.05.23 19:04:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:There are a worrying number of you saying X will have my vote.
A lot of players did that last time not realising they had up to seven votes in the order you like the candidates in. Bear that mind when choosing candidates. You are also on my list nowGǪ because I forgot how sensible you are
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:21:00 -
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It has been a year since we got CPM1 and haven't heard anything on CPM2 so I'm not counting on it. But now CPM1 players responding so maybe
FW always had a lot potential, and more than just a stepping stone for pc.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:41:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Nonsense. And I suppose that Phil Jackson and Bill Bellichek can't be experts in their respective sports because they can't dunk or tackle a 200 lb wall of muscle.
Your logic is heavily flawed.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:46:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:It has been a year since we got CPM1 and haven't heard anything on CPM2 so I'm not counting on it. But now CPM1 players responding so maybe
FW always had a lot potential, and more than just a stepping stone for pc. With the speculation and signs around Legion being no more I would assume that (or if like to think) that this is a positive sign of DUSTs extended life span.
But even though they are staying with DUST my biggest concern is where its going. It can't survive on PS3 for long. It's going to have to evolve to another system. The "where" is what's got my hitting my lips.
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G Clone
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:53:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Sennina Sovereign wrote:In all honesty, I'd vote for Saxonmish. You have multiple votes. Not just one No, just 1, transferable vote. |
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:54:00 -
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Aero has my vote. Kevall has it. Sir ManBoy has one. Cross Atu certainly has one. Maybe IWS since I recently found the secret to IWSaberese.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:56:00 -
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G Clone wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Sennina Sovereign wrote:In all honesty, I'd vote for Saxonmish. You have multiple votes. Not just one No, just 1, transferable vote. Ah, yes I see what you meant now. A lot of people voted for one person last time thinking that it was just a single vote and not ordered voting.
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.05.24 10:50:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:There are a worrying number of you saying X will have my vote.
A lot of players did that last time not realising they had up to seven votes in the order you like the candidates in. Bear that mind when choosing candidates. You are also on my list nowGǪ because I forgot how sensible you are
Well, sensible is a subjective term. I was walking around Fanfest dressed as a merc and carrying a Quafe Sniper rifle after all.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.05.24 11:59:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:From what I've been able to determine, bad players like IWS and Soraya contribute pretty much nothing. Forum warriors like Breakin Stuff are also largely clueless and would make for a terrible CPM. IWS at least is able to maintain a degree of popularity due to the regularity of how much he posts, but nothing more.
I believe that there should be a new rule that anyone with less than a 2.0 KDR and 40,000 kills should be barred from running as they clearly have a substandard grasp of how the game works, and are simply looking for acknowledgement and attention. Even when they work hard, the ideas they present can be largely toxic. Pure democracy is a bad solution to any problem, and it should always be reinforced with logical standards. People can be very stupid, after all. Then by all means your "requiments" should be considered a "bad solution" since kdr shows no correlation with knowledge of the game.
If you have no knowledge of the game, you cannot kill people while avoiding death to a great extent.
Even dead weight like Duna is knowledgeable.
As most players are bad (with yourself being a front runner) it is not exactly surprising to hear your position. Just about anyone will attempt to defend their legitimacy, even when they have none to spare.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.24 12:14:00 -
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LOL did someone really just suggest using KDR as a requirement for CPM? I mean . . . Wow. Not sure if troll
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.05.24 12:29:00 -
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A good record is not necessarily a sign of intimate knowledge, however a poor record is a definite sign of none.
Aside from Zatara I would confidently say that the CPM is largely useless.
And if I was Zatara, I'd have given up working with such individuals a long time ago.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2015.05.24 12:55:00 -
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I'd say the only quality of a good candidate is simply how invested they are, and from there you vote on whether or not your age with their feedback and would accurately represent the player base. In game statistics could portray that to a degree but never as a requirement. I wouldn't even say a CPM candidate needs to be particularly skilled at the game. Surely it would be good for some on the board to be, perhaps even most, but there are many different people who love to play this game and the elitist PC players of the bunch may be disconnected with the other less competitive audience or the long time casual pub player. I really hope someone from this crowd, who is a quality candidate, doesn't get scared away from running if they want to.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.05.24 13:01:00 -
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Being invested doesn't mean knowing what you're doing.
I like baseball, but if you ask me to coach for the Yankees they probably aren't going to have a very good season.
Rattati is more invested than the previous devs, and it shows. But that doesn't stop him for stepping on landmines which could have been avoided by a more holistic individual. I've come to peace with the fact that he's the best we could ever hope for though. In terms of the CPM, matters are different. We can do better.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2015.05.24 13:35:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I promise to do my duty as a fully fledged mighty morphin power ranger. Sgt Kirk you sir have my vote
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.24 13:57:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:did someone really just suggest using KDR as a requirement for CPM? It was at that moment that I knew Himiko was trolling: 4/10
I'm being generous because it was creative. Bonus point for getting genuine responses.
@Ripley_Riley
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.24 14:23:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Being invested doesn't mean knowing what you're doing.
I like baseball, but if you ask me to coach for the Yankees they probably aren't going to have a very good season.
Rattati is more invested than the previous devs, and it shows. But that doesn't stop him for stepping on landmines which could have been avoided by a more holistic individual. I've come to peace with the fact that he's the best we could ever hope for though. In terms of the CPM, matters are different. We can do better. Coaching the Yankees would be more equivalent to developing Dust rather than being a CPM member who is merely a representative of the community. And while I agree the game should definitely be represented by the highest level of play, Dust could not exist without the more casual banking as well and they need to need to be represented as well.
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Isa Lucifer
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Posted - 2015.05.24 15:03:00 -
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I would vote for Aero, True and the people that are at the biomassed podcast. To invest your time every Sunday and talk about Dust 514 means you still care.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.24 15:15:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Being invested doesn't mean knowing what you're doing.
I like baseball, but if you ask me to coach for the Yankees they probably aren't going to have a very good season.
Rattati is more invested than the previous devs, and it shows. But that doesn't stop him for stepping on landmines which could have been avoided by a more holistic individual. I've come to peace with the fact that he's the best we could ever hope for though. In terms of the CPM, matters are different. We can do better. Get this through your head.
The skill of playing does not equal intellectual ability to understand or know game development.
The skills aren't transferable.
A professional athlete doesn't necessarily understand kinesiology but that doesn't diminish their skill. A person whose profession centers on a proffesional undersanding of kinesiology doesn't necessarily mean they are highly physically skilled.
The CPM's job is to communicate with the community and work as a sounding board for CCP's ideas. The intlectual capacity to fulfill this obligation does not transfer over to KDR or anything else.
A redline sniper could easily have a high KDR and not be qualified for CPM. Duna is not qualified as CPM and has no sense of balance or what is best for the game as a whole.
The same goes for FotM chasers.
What is needed are people who are creative enough to theory craft and reasonable enough to prevent any possible bias from having too much influence in their input.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9
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Posted - 2015.05.24 16:17:00 -
[80] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:[ What is needed are people who are creative enough to theory craft and reasonable enough to prevent any possible bias from having too much influence in their input.
... and sensible enough to actually listen to the community they were elected to represent.
We need people who can further dialogue, solicit feedback and help solve problems; people like Cross and Pokey. The last thing we need in a Community Representative are know-it-all ego-trips peddling personal agendas and browbeating anyone who dare disagree.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9
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Posted - 2015.05.24 17:17:00 -
[81] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote: But amongst all your post that put me in negative light ...
My posts put you in a negative light? These are your posts. Have you taken a journalist Class because you have a sure knack for manipulating perspectives. Just be honest. I'm being honest. Clearly, you believe that the vast majority of us are idiots; you've said so dozens of times. I completely disagree with you on this point, but that's completely beside the point. Now it's your turn to be honest:
In your best estimation ... 1. How could Rattati possibly balance a game which is being played by a bunch of idiots who are doing it wrong? 2. Could the idiots who are doing it wrong ever participate meaningfully in discussions on balance or mechanics? 3. Is it the primary function CPM to engage and represent the community or is it to help the community help itself?
If elected to CPM ... 4. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to involve us, the idiot community, in problem solving? 5. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to encourage dialogue and debate among we idiots? 6. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to solicit, listen to, and/or value our idiot feedback?
"90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots." - Sgt Kirk
"This community is so great" - Sgt Kirk (for CPM2)
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2015.05.24 18:50:00 -
[82] - Quote
Isa Lucifer wrote:I would vote for Aero, True and the people that are at the biomassed podcast. To invest your time every Sunday and talk about Dust 514 means you still care.
Even if we go horribly off topic sometimes?
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
www.biomassed.net
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1
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Posted - 2015.05.24 19:16:00 -
[83] - Quote
@ himiko, who were the two cpm who played and "understood" the game the most?
Judge and zatara. Where are they now?
Most people, myself included, put these two on their ballot simply because of their game experience. They had a lot more in-game experience than most likely the rest of the candidates combined (sorry guys.) Turns out, they have been the worst two CPM members to date (barring maybe jenza and Kane, who ironically had the most game experience from CPM 0.)
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.24 19:39:00 -
[84] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote: But amongst all your post that put me in negative light ...
My posts put you in a negative light? These are your posts. Have you taken a journalist Class because you have a sure knack for manipulating perspectives. Just be honest. I'm being honest. Clearly, you believe that the vast majority of us are idiots; you've said so dozens of times. I completely disagree with you on this point, but that's completely beside the point. Now it's your turn to be honest: In your best estimation ... 1. How could Rattati possibly balance a game which is being played by a bunch of idiots who are doing it wrong? 2. Could the idiots who are doing it wrong ever participate meaningfully in discussions on balance or mechanics? 3. Is it the primary function CPM to engage and represent the community or is it to help the community help itself? If elected to CPM ... 4. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to involve us, the idiot community, in problem solving? 5. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to encourage dialogue and debate among we idiots? 6. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to solicit, listen to, and/or value our idiot feedback? One of the things that annoyed me most was lack of involvement from the CPM. While I understand a lot, A LOT. Of things were held under NDA. There was still much to be desired as far as communication goes. Even if its not about specific dust matters, simply interacting with us would have been a great morale booster.
Now, its pretty obvious I've been known to get ornery at times and literally everytime I lash out beck when I didn't keep myself in check. I dont think the vast majority are idiots contrary to my past angry spoutings but like I've said. I've been working on that and they've been getting fewer and lesser in frequency as well as severity.
If i honestly thought that deep down to the core I wouldn't go to the forums for feedback and even take any of it seriously. I wouldn't have scrapped ideas entirely based on forum feedback if I legitimately thought everybody is an idiot.
I've cooled down drastically in the past recent months which I recognized my hot temperament would be one of the major things I needed to work to to make myself appropriate for CPM.
Hell, that's Aeon Amadi would need to work on in order to be a great CPM and I think of him higher than I, we just both happen to be two extremely passionate lovers of this game that just get extremely heated when we become peeved.
But yeah, all in all. I'd be the most communicative and vocal CPM this game has ever seen. Even I I'm wrapped up in NDA I wont leave you guys alone for weeks at a time without so much of a "hows it going"
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2015.05.24 20:01:00 -
[85] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote: But yeah, all in all. I'd be the most communicative and vocal CPM this game has ever seen. Even I I'm wrapped up in NDA I wont leave you guys alone for weeks at a time without so much of a "hows it going"
Actually we have at least one (usually 2-3) CPM on ever week on Biomassed that give a weekly CPM update about what's been going on. Sometimes its a slow week or NDA bound, but they're getting the word out there on a consistent and regular basis.
I think what Adipem is getting at is that while it's great to be passionate about the game, and almost necessary to be a good representative of the community, it's doesn't excuse brash emotionally driven behavior or remarks. I mean I would argue that people like Cross Atu are the paradigm of a good CPM, and I can assure you his is passionate to an unhealthy degree. However he is also insanely level headed and extremely rational and not prone to emotional outbursts or calling people idiots.
Don't get me wrong, no one is perfect and we all have our moments, but all too often people let their emotions get the better of them on a fairly consistent basis. And at least in my opinion, I'm extremely reluctant to vote for people who can't keep their rationality over their intense emotions.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
www.biomassed.net
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe. RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.05.25 00:18:00 -
[86] - Quote
Well y'know, I'm running this year. I'll have a full platform thread when we see a proper election announcement, but the sneak peak is that the holding of timely and consistent CPM elections is something I want to see solidified going into the future. CPM0 fought hard for way too long to get the first elections. We're now seeing inconsistency, delays, and maybe even a lack of priority on the subject from the current CPM.
If the CPM's supposed to be democratic, elections should be held on time every time. No exceptions.
Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi
Have a pony
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. RUST415
854
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Posted - 2015.05.25 00:33:00 -
[87] - Quote
Someone who is largely unbiased and doesn't have an agenda of any type to push. Also brains are a must. I don't care how rational a person you are if you aren't smart enough to smell other people's bs.
I think maybe only 2 such people that I know of are likely to run. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2015.05.25 01:27:00 -
[88] - Quote
Leither Yiltron wrote:Well y'know, I'm running this year. I'll have a full platform thread when we see a proper election announcement, but the sneak peak is that the holding of timely and consistent CPM elections is something I want to see solidified going into the future. CPM0 fought hard for way too long to get the first elections. We're now seeing inconsistency, delays, and maybe even a lack of priority on the subject from the current CPM.
If the CPM's supposed to be democratic, elections should be held on time every time. No exceptions.
I think the whitepaper in general needs to be updated with more solid rules for elections as well as contingencies in case delays MUST happen, it needs to outline how the delays work so there is a clear expectation on when things will happen.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
www.biomassed.net
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.05.25 01:30:00 -
[89] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Would support without second thought: True Adamance
You clazy boi!
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2015.05.25 02:04:00 -
[90] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Would support without second thought: True Adamance
You clazy boi! True's CPM2 Platform:
Amarr HAVs
That is all.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
www.biomassed.net
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.25 02:08:00 -
[91] - Quote
Pokey Dravon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Would support without second thought: True Adamance
You clazy boi! True's CPM2 Platform: Amarr HAVs That is all. But imagine the Minmatar AutoCannon turret.... 12 combat rifles duct taped to a rotating radar dish.
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.05.25 02:09:00 -
[92] - Quote
Pokey Dravon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Would support without second thought: True Adamance
You clazy boi! True's CPM2 Platform: Amarr HAVs That is all.
Hey give me some credit. I'd like to see vehicle balance, FW changes, and Amarrian HAVs......maybe Minmatar vehicles if I feel like it....
I'm more a complex Amarrian HAV than that.....
Wait what?
I meant to say that I'm more complex than an Amarrian HAV.
Oh this isn't going Amarrian HAV.
Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV, Amarrian HAV.
Dammit all!
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.05.25 02:12:00 -
[93] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Would support without second thought: True Adamance
You clazy boi! True's CPM2 Platform: Amarr HAVs That is all. But imagine the Minmatar AutoCannon turret.... 12 combat rifles duct taped to a rotating radar dish. WOULD BE AMAZING! Though Minmatar Artillery interests me more.
Phased Plasma Rounds, Titanium Discarding Sabot, Tremor and MUTHA ******* Quake ROUNDS!
I mean hell the Dakka on that thing makes it naturally sexy even if it's form is ugly and rusted. It's mere concept is stimulating.When normal rounds simply won't cut it just make one round with the payload of two!
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
8
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Posted - 2015.05.25 06:38:00 -
[94] - Quote
Pokey Dravon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Would support without second thought: True Adamance
You clazy boi! True's CPM2 Platform: Amarr HAVs That is all. What else do we need....
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
Get Dust ISK Here
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.25 06:47:00 -
[95] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Would support without second thought: True Adamance
You clazy boi! True's CPM2 Platform: Amarr HAVs That is all. But imagine the Minmatar AutoCannon turret.... 12 combat rifles duct taped to a rotating radar dish. WOULD BE AMAZING! Though Minmatar Artillery interests me more. Phased Plasma Rounds, Titanium Discarding Sabot, Tremor and MUTHA ******* Quake ROUNDS! I mean hell the Dakka on that thing makes it naturally sexy even if it's form is ugly and rusted. It's mere concept is stimulating.When normal rounds simply won't cut it just make one round with the payload of two! On the topic of various ammunition rounds I still want a Mass Driver with Shotgun type rounds.
Finally we'd have a Minmatar shotgun
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.05.25 09:56:00 -
[96] - Quote
Let's be abundantly clear:
The delay in election of CPM 2 has NOTHING to do with the current CPM. They have no creative control over the timing in this, or any other, reality.
The election will happen either after the tiericide initiative that is eating all of rattati's attention, or more likely, after PC 2.0 has been released. In either case it will be when the dev team has extracted enough of their attention from projects to monitoring our humble little popularity contest for their attention.
And not a moment before.
Whipping about your idiot conspiracy theories about how the CPM (who are all about ready for someone else to take the helm) are deliberately impeding progress is a sign that you are an idiot who should not be a part of the process.
Take the fking tinfoil off. You're starting to sound as idiotic as Bamm Havok's theories of how the world works.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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G Clone
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
127
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:19:00 -
[97] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:G Clone wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm. Aero - we're still working on a FW Proposal document, similar to the 2 previous proposals we showed on this forum. If you have ideas, I'm more than willing to listen :) Where to discuss? I have two separate documents myself, one from 2013 and one from just winter. Poked you via the Google ... or at least poked someone I think is you :) Check your notifications on GMail/Google+/Android phone/Android Tablet/various other places, and get back to me :) |
Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4
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Posted - 2015.05.25 19:41:00 -
[98] - Quote
Pokey Dravon wrote: I think the whitepaper in general needs to be updated with more solid rules for elections as well as contingencies in case delays MUST happen, it needs to outline how the delays work so there is a clear expectation on when things will happen.
Yeah an easy to understand and readily accessible whitepaper would be a great improvement IMO. Having something that community members, as well as prospective (or current) cpm can look to for clear guidance about the structural nature of the cpm on matters including but not limited to elections would be a positive.
Just like having a clear vision for the game, or specific roles within it, having something cohesive to frame conversations around is very important in promoting useful discourse.
0.02 ISK Cross
CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.25 21:38:00 -
[99] - Quote
G Clone wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:G Clone wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm. Aero - we're still working on a FW Proposal document, similar to the 2 previous proposals we showed on this forum. If you have ideas, I'm more than willing to listen :) Where to discuss? I have two separate documents myself, one from 2013 and one from just winter. Poked you via the Google ... or at least poked someone I think is you :) Check your notifications on GMail/Google+/Android phone/Android Tablet/various other places, and get back to me :) ??? I think you sent it to me
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.05.25 21:43:00 -
[100] - Quote
none. except for the two guys who came up with the power core idea.
AE. C.B2013
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:40:00 -
[101] - Quote
Kalante Schiffer wrote:none. except for the two guys who came up with the power core idea. But but but
How could you ever vote for me?
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp
Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:44:00 -
[102] - Quote
Damn, not even I would say anything like that.
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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dy5t0pia
Internal Error.
950
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:48:00 -
[103] - Quote
dy5t0pia for CPM2!
Closed Beta Vet
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:52:00 -
[104] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:Damn, not even I would say anything like that.
Lol bro needs to update his "hatemail" skillz. He sucks.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:54:00 -
[105] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:G Clone wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:G Clone wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I was running for CPM1 until the Rouge Wedding in which I didn't want to dedicate that much of my time to the new direction. I may run this time given there is someone at CCP who will not give up. Not sure how relevant I am anymore though, all I have are ideas for FW which no one seems to care about and threads in which I take someone else's idea and consequently generate a like farm. Aero - we're still working on a FW Proposal document, similar to the 2 previous proposals we showed on this forum. If you have ideas, I'm more than willing to listen :) Where to discuss? I have two separate documents myself, one from 2013 and one from just winter. Poked you via the Google ... or at least poked someone I think is you :) Check your notifications on GMail/Google+/Android phone/Android Tablet/various other places, and get back to me :) ??? I think you sent it to me
* looks around excitedly awaiting proposal information.
How could you make changes to FW and not speak to New Eden's greatest Amarrian Hero.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:56:00 -
[106] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:
* looks around excitedly awaiting proposal information.
How could you make changes to FW and not speak to New Eden's greatest Amarrian Hero.
Ahh yes, The best Amarrian there ever was, Devin Xer!
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:16:00 -
[107] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:
* looks around excitedly awaiting proposal information.
How could you make changes to FW and not speak to New Eden's greatest Amarrian Hero.
Ahh yes, The best Amarrian there ever was, Devin Xer! Xcuse Me!?!?
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp
Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:25:00 -
[108] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:
* looks around excitedly awaiting proposal information.
How could you make changes to FW and not speak to New Eden's greatest Amarrian Hero.
Ahh yes, The best Amarrian there ever was, Devin Xer!
Awwww ****!
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:28:00 -
[109] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:
* looks around excitedly awaiting proposal information.
How could you make changes to FW and not speak to New Eden's greatest Amarrian Hero.
Ahh yes, The best Amarrian there ever was, Devin Xer! Xcuse Me!?!?
***** please you wish you were half the Amarrian I am.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:33:00 -
[110] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:
* looks around excitedly awaiting proposal information.
How could you make changes to FW and not speak to New Eden's greatest Amarrian Hero.
Ahh yes, The best Amarrian there ever was, Devin Xer! Xcuse Me!?!? ***** please you wish you were half the Amarrian I am. says the guy who used a Caldari bloodline to create his portrait.
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp
Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:35:00 -
[111] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:
* looks around excitedly awaiting proposal information.
How could you make changes to FW and not speak to New Eden's greatest Amarrian Hero.
Ahh yes, The best Amarrian there ever was, Devin Xer! Xcuse Me!?!? ***** please you wish you were half the Amarrian I am. says the guy who used a Caldari bloodline to create his portrait. BURNNNNNNNN
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:38:00 -
[112] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:
* looks around excitedly awaiting proposal information.
How could you make changes to FW and not speak to New Eden's greatest Amarrian Hero.
Ahh yes, The best Amarrian there ever was, Devin Xer! Xcuse Me!?!? ***** please you wish you were half the Amarrian I am. says the guy who used a Caldari bloodline to create his portrait.
Says the guy who started his Dust career with a Gallentean main and plans to over throw a noble household.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
6
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:40:00 -
[113] - Quote
Y'all are funny...
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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G Clone
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
130
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:09:00 -
[114] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:* looks around excitedly awaiting proposal information.
How could you make changes to FW and not speak to New Eden's greatest Amarrian Hero. I'm OK with including you (and others?), but need to know how to include you. Already have contact w/ Sgt Kirk via the Googles, and have poked Aero there - would need to have you as well there, since we do all our stuff on that platform (the document will be done in Google Docs for realtime collaboration.)
...and I thought that the greatest Amarrian Hero was young miss Morte.
Sgt Kirk wrote:??? I think you sent it to me I sent 1 to you, and 1 to Aero where I also included you :) |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 12:11:00 -
[115] - Quote
Imp Smash wrote:Someone who is largely unbiased and doesn't have an agenda of any type to push. Also brains are a must. I don't care how rational a person you are if you aren't smart enough to smell other people's bs.
I think maybe only 2 such people that I know of are likely to run.
Agendas are good.
But a willingness to LISTEN to the agendas of others and COMPROMISE for the health of the game is a must.
A CPM should have a clear idea of what they want to accomplish from the get-go, and be prepared to accept that these priorities may change if given new information.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:11:00 -
[116] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:... this community is so great Sgt Kirk wrote:90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots ^ Community Representative material? Click here for 5 more pages of you calling us idiots. Your good friend Zatara successfully ran a "I'm humble now!" campaign. He's got an ego like you've got a temper, and once elected, it showed. People will say whatever it takes to get a vote. You say you're open-minded now. That you listen to people. That you're working on your hot temper. I hope you are. And if you get elected, I really hope you are. But after Zatara, I'm not inclined to believe you. I'm more inclined to believe that you'll be exactly who you've always been, and that someone is plain to see in your post history. TL;DR: I think you have good ideas, Kirk, but I think you'd be a terrible community representative.
See, this is my issue with you. You never intended to vote for the dude and you have absolutely no intentions of changing your views about that - you don't care what he stands for, who he is, or what he's done for the community; the only thing you care about is that he doesn't constantly agree with your - often ****** - viewpoints and buy into your constant use of Ad Hominem.
Point in case, you antagonize the guy about how open-minded he is and then for the next half-dozen posts go on your own little rant about why he's not "community representative material" - which is laughable because you act like your idea of what -is- and -is not- community rep material is somehow the standard; well, allow me to enlighten you on something, buddy, it isn't. You are not that important, you are not the center of the universe, and while your handful of friends in-game might be nodding and agreeing with your one-sided view of things, there are a lot of us out there that could care less about what you think up until you start pulling this "hey everyone look at what I think isn't CPM material" act -that you always do-.
Because, honest to god, even if the dude -DID- work on his temper, hell even if -I- worked on -MY- temper (pro-tip, I'm not going to) you still wouldn't vote for either of us because it just doesn't pander what -YOU- want out of the game, no matter how conceited or egocentric it actually is. The personality isn't a factor, you're just using that as a justification for an argument so you don't come out and just admit that you don't like either of us because we disagree with you. You scrape for any little flaw in the personality to use against them BECAUSE IT'S YOUR SPECIALTY. If you didn't have Ad Hominem on your side, none of your arguments would hold -ANY- weight at all because you just can't argue the points brought up.
And until you actually get around to realizing that, you can't honestly expect anyone to respect you because you don't have show enough respect as to not just blindly contradict someone in some ham-fisted attempt to make them look bad and then hilariously finish with a half-hearted, insincere compliment like "I think you have good ideas" sandwiched in between (who'd have guessed) even more contradictory bullshit.
Just leave dude. Just leave the community and stop trying because those who actually matter will never buy into your tactics.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:15:00 -
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And just a note to the rest of you: Stop thinking about why a person -SHOULD NOT- be a CPM representative and start thinking about why they -SHOULD- be a CPM representative. Everyone's got flaws, you're never going to find perfection, so stop trying. The sooner you realize that many members of this community have more pros than cons, the better off you'll be.
And for the love of god, don't vote someone in based on their Youtube personality, seriously, you already saw what that was like. The joke is over.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:20:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:And for the love of god, don't vote someone in based on their Youtube personality, seriously, you already saw what that was like. The joke is over. After Judge's shitfit and subsequent fleeing from CPM1 I would not be surprised if having a Youtube channel was almost a detriment for CPM2 hopefuls.
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:36:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:And for the love of god, don't vote someone in based on their Youtube personality, seriously, you already saw what that was like. The joke is over. After Judge's shitfit and subsequent fleeing from CPM1 I would not be surprised if having a Youtube channel was almost a detriment for CPM2 hopefuls.
Hopefully more people will be aware of this and actually question the hopefuls, instead of blindly voting for them even after the masses of red flags that appeared on them during the campaigns (pyrex vouching for you being the biggest red flag)
also mfw no one mentions me in the CPM2 thread, sadface
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:48:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:And for the love of god, don't vote someone in based on their Youtube personality, seriously, you already saw what that was like. The joke is over. After Judge's shitfit and subsequent fleeing from CPM1 I would not be surprised if having a Youtube channel was almost a detriment for CPM2 hopefuls. Hopefully more people will be aware of this and actually question the hopefuls, instead of blindly voting for them even after the masses of red flags that appeared on them during the campaigns (pyrex vouching for you being the biggest red flag) also mfw no one mentions me in the CPM2 thread, sadface So, I plan on doing instructional videos for, mostly for Lucent but the community benefits as well. That's pretty, bold to say. I would hope people logical enough to know that Judge was just judge and stop trying to convince that because people have a trivial hobby, trait, etc. in common means they are alarmingly the same. The world isn't just black and white.
I guess the DUST 514 version of that idiom is "The world isn't just green and blue"
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Adipem Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:48:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:... this community is so great Sgt Kirk wrote:90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots ^ Community Representative material? Click here for 5 more pages of you calling us idiots. Your good friend Zatara successfully ran a "I'm humble now!" campaign. He's got an ego like you've got a temper, and once elected, it showed. People will say whatever it takes to get a vote. You say you're open-minded now. That you listen to people. That you're working on your hot temper. I hope you are. And if you get elected, I really hope you are. But after Zatara, I'm not inclined to believe you. I'm more inclined to believe that you'll be exactly who you've always been, and that someone is plain to see in your post history. TL;DR: I think you have good ideas, Kirk, but I think you'd be a terrible community representative. See, this is my issue with you. You never intended to vote for the dude and you have absolutely no intentions of changing your views about that - you don't care what he stands for, who he is, or what he's done for the community; the only thing you care about is that he doesn't constantly agree with your - often ****** - viewpoints and buy into your constant use of Ad Hominem. Point in case, you antagonize the guy about how open-minded he is and then for the next half-dozen posts go on your own little rant about why he's not "community representative material" - which is laughable because you act like your idea of what -is- and -is not- community rep material is somehow the standard; well, allow me to enlighten you on something, buddy, it isn't. You are not that important, you are not the center of the universe, and while your handful of friends in-game might be nodding and agreeing with your one-sided view of things, there are a lot of us out there that could care less about what you think up until you start pulling this "hey everyone look at what I think isn't CPM material" act -that you always do-. Because, honest to god, even if the dude -DID- work on his temper, hell even if -I- worked on -MY- temper (pro-tip, I'm not going to) you still wouldn't vote for either of us because it just doesn't pander what -YOU- want out of the game, no matter how conceited or egocentric it actually is. The personality isn't a factor, you're just using that as a justification for an argument so you don't come out and just admit that you don't like either of us because we disagree with you. You scrape for any little flaw in the personality to use against them BECAUSE IT'S YOUR SPECIALTY. If you didn't have Ad Hominem on your side, none of your arguments would hold -ANY- weight at all because you just can't argue the points brought up. And until you actually get around to realizing that, you can't honestly expect anyone to respect you because you don't have show enough respect as to not just blindly contradict someone in some ham-fisted attempt to make them look bad and then hilariously finish with a half-hearted, insincere compliment like "I think you have good ideas" sandwiched in between (who'd have guessed) even more contradictory bullshit. Just leave dude. Just leave the community and stop trying because those who actually matter will never buy into your tactics. I'm not running for office, Aeon.
If I were, I would expect my history of bias to be called into question, be it perceived or factual. I would expect my viewpoints and agendas, both past and present, to be inquired about and challenged. I would expect that any "bad behavior" in my past fit to be dug up and offered as a potential indicator for future behavior. I would expect to be thoroughly vetted.
And if I were running for a position as a Community Representative, I would absolutely expect to be called out if I had ever referred to the Community as "idiots".
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:50:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:And for the love of god, don't vote someone in based on their Youtube personality, seriously, you already saw what that was like. The joke is over. After Judge's shitfit and subsequent fleeing from CPM1 I would not be surprised if having a Youtube channel was almost a detriment for CPM2 hopefuls. Hopefully more people will be aware of this and actually question the hopefuls, instead of blindly voting for them even after the masses of red flags that appeared on them during the campaigns (pyrex vouching for you being the biggest red flag) also mfw no one mentions me in the CPM2 thread, sadface
Honestly, the CPM needs to have the capability and drive to ask the hard questions from CCP. Balance changes are great and all but we seriously need to look toward the future. With Legion all but dead we need to seriously start asking a few things:
- What's the longterm roadmap? - Where will we be five years from now? - If not Legion, than what is the majority of the development team working on? - Why be silent about the good news when it comes to the long-term?
Stuff along those lines. If a CPM hopeful can ask those questions, and press them, they have my vote.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:52:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:So, I plan on doing instructional videos for, mostly for Lucent but the community benefits as well. That's pretty, bold to say. I would hope people logical enough to know that Judge was just judge and stop trying to convince that because people have a trivial hobby, trait, etc. in common means they are alarmingly the same. The world isn't just black and white.
I guess the DUST 514 version of that idiom is "The world isn't just green and blue" I don't think having a Youtube channel in and of itself is a bad thing. In fact, it shows community involvement to a degree, so long as you aren't tinfoiling it up BAMM HAVOC style.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:52:00 -
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Hey guys,
I just wanted to drop in and promote the fact that a great way to get yourself out there as a potential candidate is to show up on our podcast! If you're interested, get in touch with me or Pokey or Jay and we'll try and get you set up. If you let us know you're a potential candidate, we'll give you some time to soapbox your thoughts and throw some questions at you and such. (We may also have to schedule another "early show" for candidates not living in a time zone where our show time works well for them.)
(At some point, we'll probably do interviews/coverage of CPM candidates on the Biomassed blog as well.)
I HIGHLY recommend any people considering running for CPM get together on Skype and chat with each other. CPM election is more of a "coopertition" than a competition. (Thanks FIRST Robotics for that term.)
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:53:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:... this community is so great Sgt Kirk wrote:90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots ^ Community Representative material? Click here for 5 more pages of you calling us idiots. Your good friend Zatara successfully ran a "I'm humble now!" campaign. He's got an ego like you've got a temper, and once elected, it showed. People will say whatever it takes to get a vote. You say you're open-minded now. That you listen to people. That you're working on your hot temper. I hope you are. And if you get elected, I really hope you are. But after Zatara, I'm not inclined to believe you. I'm more inclined to believe that you'll be exactly who you've always been, and that someone is plain to see in your post history. TL;DR: I think you have good ideas, Kirk, but I think you'd be a terrible community representative. See, this is my issue with you. You never intended to vote for the dude and you have absolutely no intentions of changing your views about that - you don't care what he stands for, who he is, or what he's done for the community; the only thing you care about is that he doesn't constantly agree with your - often ****** - viewpoints and buy into your constant use of Ad Hominem. Point in case, you antagonize the guy about how open-minded he is and then for the next half-dozen posts go on your own little rant about why he's not "community representative material" - which is laughable because you act like your idea of what -is- and -is not- community rep material is somehow the standard; well, allow me to enlighten you on something, buddy, it isn't. You are not that important, you are not the center of the universe, and while your handful of friends in-game might be nodding and agreeing with your one-sided view of things, there are a lot of us out there that could care less about what you think up until you start pulling this "hey everyone look at what I think isn't CPM material" act -that you always do-. Because, honest to god, even if the dude -DID- work on his temper, hell even if -I- worked on -MY- temper (pro-tip, I'm not going to) you still wouldn't vote for either of us because it just doesn't pander what -YOU- want out of the game, no matter how conceited or egocentric it actually is. The personality isn't a factor, you're just using that as a justification for an argument so you don't come out and just admit that you don't like either of us because we disagree with you. You scrape for any little flaw in the personality to use against them BECAUSE IT'S YOUR SPECIALTY. If you didn't have Ad Hominem on your side, none of your arguments would hold -ANY- weight at all because you just can't argue the points brought up. And until you actually get around to realizing that, you can't honestly expect anyone to respect you because you don't have show enough respect as to not just blindly contradict someone in some ham-fisted attempt to make them look bad and then hilariously finish with a half-hearted, insincere compliment like "I think you have good ideas" sandwiched in between (who'd have guessed) even more contradictory bullshit. Just leave dude. Just leave the community and stop trying because those who actually matter will never buy into your tactics. I'm not running for office, Aeon. If I were, I would expect my history of bias to be called into question, be it perceived or factual. I would expect my viewpoints and agendas, both past and present, to be inquired about and challenged. I would expect that any "bad behavior" in my past (fits, name-calling, irrational posting, etc) to be dug up and offered as a potential indicator for future behavior. I would expect to be thoroughly vetted. And if I were running for a position as a Community Representative, I would absolutely expect to be called out if I had ever referred to the Community as "idiots".
Think before you post and you won't be called an idiot. Being a 'Representative' doesn't automatically assume you to be nice or hold people's hands and the community is not entitled niceness from a representative. They're there to get a job done, not to play the politician. I'd actually be -MORE- worried about a candidate that does play nice with everyone because they then cannot be objective. I want a candidate that is passionate and stands up for their beliefs with drive, stubborn drive if necessary.
Feel free to vote for 'everyone's friend' if you want. We had that already and it didn't change anything.
EDIT: And I -certainly- don't want a candidate who is afraid to say no to someone. Don't care how polite you are, if you can't tell a person 'no' then you're not worth having on the CPM.
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:54:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:And for the love of god, don't vote someone in based on their Youtube personality, seriously, you already saw what that was like. The joke is over. After Judge's shitfit and subsequent fleeing from CPM1 I would not be surprised if having a Youtube channel was almost a detriment for CPM2 hopefuls. Hopefully more people will be aware of this and actually question the hopefuls, instead of blindly voting for them even after the masses of red flags that appeared on them during the campaigns (pyrex vouching for you being the biggest red flag) also mfw no one mentions me in the CPM2 thread, sadface So, I plan on doing instructional videos for, mostly for Lucent but the community benefits as well. That's pretty, bold to say. I would hope people logical enough to know that Judge was just judge and stop trying to convince that because people have a trivial hobby, trait, etc. in common means they are alarmingly the same. The world isn't just black and white. I guess the DUST 514 version of that idiom is "The world isn't just green and blue"
I was referring to people blinding voting to someone who shows redflags, not saying people who do youtube channels are bad people (although they generally have an ego, but that can go either way)
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:01:00 -
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And again, because apparently I didn't get the point across the first time. A CPM's behavior on the forums? Has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to CPM. If you don't believe me do some research on this guy and how/why he made the CSM actually relevant in Eve Online: https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/The%20Mittani
EDIT: Here's a video that'll show you how civil an internet space-bastard can be whenever it actually matters. https://youtu.be/7kat_uoAvnk?t=1m59s
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:04:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:And again, because apparently I didn't get the point across the first time. A CPM's behavior on the forums? Has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to CPM. If you don't believe me do some research on this guy and how/why he made the CSM actually relevant in Eve Online: https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/The%20MittaniEDIT: Here's a video that'll show you how civil an internet space-bastard can be whenever it actually matters. https://youtu.be/7kat_uoAvnk Didn't he get kicked because he told someone to kill themselves at fanfest? Yeah no. **** that guy.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:07:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm not running for office, Aeon. If I were, I would expect my history of bias to be called into question, be it perceived or factual. I would expect my viewpoints and agendas, both past and present, to be inquired about and challenged. I would expect that any "bad behavior" in my past (fits, name-calling, irrational posting, etc) to be dug up and offered as a potential indicator for future behavior. I would expect to be thoroughly vetted. And if I were running for a position as a Community Representative, I would absolutely expect to be called out if I had ever referred to the Community as "idiots". Think before you post and you won't be called an idiot. Being a 'Representative' doesn't automatically assume you to be nice or hold people's hands and the community is not entitled niceness from a representative. They're there to get a job done, not to play the politician. I'd actually be -MORE- worried about a candidate that does play nice with everyone because they then cannot be objective. I want a candidate that is passionate and stands up for their beliefs with drive, stubborn drive if necessary. Feel free to vote for 'everyone's friend' if you want. We had that already and it didn't change anything.
Representative absolutely means dealing with people, and personalities matter when it comes to dealing with people. We need representatives who can get the community involved while remaining focused on the issues. Candidates with histories of throwing tantrums, name-calling, browbeating, etc should be called out for their behavior as these behaviors stand in direct conflict with what we need in representatives.
You, Appia, Sgt Kirk, me ... we are cut from the same cloth. We're as likely to attack the person as we are the issue. We would all make for bad Community Representatives.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:07:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:And again, because apparently I didn't get the point across the first time. A CPM's behavior on the forums? Has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to CPM. If you don't believe me do some research on this guy and how/why he made the CSM actually relevant in Eve Online: https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/The%20MittaniEDIT: Here's a video that'll show you how civil an internet space-bastard can be whenever it actually matters. https://youtu.be/7kat_uoAvnk Didn't he get kicked because he told someone to kill themselves at fanfest? Yeah no. **** that guy.
Doesn't have anything to do with what he did for the community and the game at large. Watch the video, learn something. Stop having an emotional reaction to a logical situation.
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Adipem Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:09:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: Doesn't have anything to do with what he did for the community and the game at large. Watch the video, learn something. Stop having an emotional reaction to a logical situation.
LMAO
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:13:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm not running for office, Aeon. If I were, I would expect my history of bias to be called into question, be it perceived or factual. I would expect my viewpoints and agendas, both past and present, to be inquired about and challenged. I would expect that any "bad behavior" in my past (fits, name-calling, irrational posting, etc) to be dug up and offered as a potential indicator for future behavior. I would expect to be thoroughly vetted. And if I were running for a position as a Community Representative, I would absolutely expect to be called out if I had ever referred to the Community as "idiots". Think before you post and you won't be called an idiot. Being a 'Representative' doesn't automatically assume you to be nice or hold people's hands and the community is not entitled niceness from a representative. They're there to get a job done, not to play the politician. I'd actually be -MORE- worried about a candidate that does play nice with everyone because they then cannot be objective. I want a candidate that is passionate and stands up for their beliefs with drive, stubborn drive if necessary. Feel free to vote for 'everyone's friend' if you want. We had that already and it didn't change anything. Representative absolutely means dealing with people, and personalities matter when it comes to dealing with people. We need representatives who can get the community involved while remaining focused on the issues. Candidates with histories of throwing tantrums, name-calling, browbeating, etc should be called out for their behavior as these behaviors stand in direct conflict with what we need in representatives. You, Appia, Sgt Kirk, me ... we are cut from the same cloth. We're as likely to attack the person as we are the issue. It is a part of our personality, and try as we may, it will not change. We would all make for sub-optimal Community Representatives.
Really, your the only person I have an issue with on the forums and 100% of the time it starts with you saying something that incredibly false about me which leads me to get angry. I've disproven everything else you have said but you've latched on to my temper and wont let go because that's literally the only thing you've said against me that holds any amount of truth to it.
I don't even have a problem with MINA anymore, the only person I actively go up against (not about game ideas) is you. Literally just you.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:13:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Doesn't have anything to do with what he did for the community and the game at large. Watch the video, learn something. Stop having an emotional reaction to a logical situation. He told another human being to take their own life. That overshadows anything he might have done for a video game's community. To distill this down to its purest form: his in game actions might have been great, but his real life actions damned him.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:14:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm not running for office, Aeon. If I were, I would expect my history of bias to be called into question, be it perceived or factual. I would expect my viewpoints and agendas, both past and present, to be inquired about and challenged. I would expect that any "bad behavior" in my past (fits, name-calling, irrational posting, etc) to be dug up and offered as a potential indicator for future behavior. I would expect to be thoroughly vetted. And if I were running for a position as a Community Representative, I would absolutely expect to be called out if I had ever referred to the Community as "idiots". Think before you post and you won't be called an idiot. Being a 'Representative' doesn't automatically assume you to be nice or hold people's hands and the community is not entitled niceness from a representative. They're there to get a job done, not to play the politician. I'd actually be -MORE- worried about a candidate that does play nice with everyone because they then cannot be objective. I want a candidate that is passionate and stands up for their beliefs with drive, stubborn drive if necessary. Feel free to vote for 'everyone's friend' if you want. We had that already and it didn't change anything. Representative absolutely means dealing with people, and personalities matter when it comes to dealing with people. We need representatives who can get the community involved while remaining focused on the issues. Candidates with histories of throwing tantrums, name-calling, browbeating, etc should be called out for their behavior as these behaviors stand in direct conflict with what we need in representatives. You, Appia, Sgt Kirk, me ... we are cut from the same cloth. We're as likely to attack the person as we are the issue. We would all make for bad Community Representatives.
Hahaha, comparing me to Appia - that in itself is hilarious.
No. A candidate can -absolutely- get the community involved in something while still being antagonistic toward them (see Jita riots); you wouldn't even know who I was if I -WASN'T- antagonistic toward you because infamy has a way of settling in with people a hell of a lot more than playing Barney. We're not here to love each other, we're here to play the game (which I'll remind is largely brutal in it's theme as it is) and if forum behavior stop you from voting someone in that actually does deserve it, based on their merit, you deserve an awful experience because your vote was wasted.
Remember that the representatives -ARE THERE TO FIX THE GAME-, not your behavior, their behavior, or whether or not you like them. This game comes first, not your personal feelings. If you can't handle it, don't talk to the person - hide their posts, block them on Dust 514, and run yourself. Play nice with everyone, see how far it gets you.
A person can absolutely be antagonistic and still remain on point with the community's interests and of course, the community's interests are often not -YOUR- interests. Even still, a Representative has to know when the community is being ******** and know how to say no. The community is not always right, much in the same way the customer is not always right. In the end the only thing that matters is what goes on in that meeting room with CCP, and what goes on in that Skype channel. They don't have to be friendly - they have to be objective.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:16:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:And again, because apparently I didn't get the point across the first time. A CPM's behavior on the forums? Has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to CPM. If you don't believe me do some research on this guy and how/why he made the CSM actually relevant in Eve Online: https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/The%20MittaniEDIT: Here's a video that'll show you how civil an internet space-bastard can be whenever it actually matters. https://youtu.be/7kat_uoAvnk Didn't he get kicked because he told someone to kill themselves at fanfest? Yeah no. **** that guy.
There was an insurmountable amount of alcohol involved in that situation. There's a reason people don't drink and do the alliance panel anymore. (And as soon as Mittens was sober, he was extremely, extremely apologetic, and voluntarily stepped down.)
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:18:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Doesn't have anything to do with what he did for the community and the game at large. Watch the video, learn something. Stop having an emotional reaction to a logical situation. He told another human being to take their own life. That overshadows anything he might have done for a video game's community. To distill this down to its purest form: his in game actions might have been great, but his real life actions damned him.
Than vote for someone who'll do nothing of value and let the game die. If you can't separate events, behaviors, and ideals in the moment to moment than you're just going to be alone, miserable, and holding a lot of grudges.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:18:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:There was an insurmountable amount of alcohol involved in that situation. There's a reason people don't drink and do the alliance panel anymore. (And as soon as Mittens was sober, he was extremely, extremely apologetic, and voluntarily stepped down.) I found the video. He doesn't seem to be slurring his words very much Besides, what is the saying, "A drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts".
@Ripley_Riley
"I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:21:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: Stop having an emotional reaction to a logical situation.
Irony overload mate :P
Prime League champion
SGL Sidearm champion
Fanfest '14 All star champion
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:22:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm not running for office, Aeon. If I were, I would expect my history of bias to be called into question, be it perceived or factual. I would expect my viewpoints and agendas, both past and present, to be inquired about and challenged. I would expect that any "bad behavior" in my past (fits, name-calling, irrational posting, etc) to be dug up and offered as a potential indicator for future behavior. I would expect to be thoroughly vetted. And if I were running for a position as a Community Representative, I would absolutely expect to be called out if I had ever referred to the Community as "idiots". Think before you post and you won't be called an idiot. Being a 'Representative' doesn't automatically assume you to be nice or hold people's hands and the community is not entitled niceness from a representative. They're there to get a job done, not to play the politician. I'd actually be -MORE- worried about a candidate that does play nice with everyone because they then cannot be objective. I want a candidate that is passionate and stands up for their beliefs with drive, stubborn drive if necessary. Feel free to vote for 'everyone's friend' if you want. We had that already and it didn't change anything. Representative absolutely means dealing with people, and personalities matter when it comes to dealing with people. We need representatives who can get the community involved while remaining focused on the issues. Candidates with histories of throwing tantrums, name-calling, browbeating, etc should be called out for their behavior as these behaviors stand in direct conflict with what we need in representatives. You, Appia, Sgt Kirk, me ... we are cut from the same cloth. We're as likely to attack the person as we are the issue. We would all make for bad Community Representatives. Hahaha, comparing me to Appia - that in itself is hilarious. No. A candidate can -absolutely- get the community involved in something while still being antagonistic toward them (see Jita riots); you wouldn't even know who I was if I -WASN'T- antagonistic toward you because infamy has a way of settling in with people a hell of a lot more than playing Barney. We're not here to love each other, we're here to play the game (which I'll remind is largely brutal in it's theme as it is) and if forum behavior stop you from voting someone in that actually does deserve it, based on their merit, you deserve an awful experience because your vote was wasted. Remember that the representatives -ARE THERE TO FIX THE GAME-, not your behavior, their behavior, or whether or not you like them. This game comes first, not your personal feelings. If you can't handle it, don't talk to the person - hide their posts, block them on Dust 514, and run yourself. Play nice with everyone, see how far it gets you. A person can absolutely be antagonistic and still remain on point with the community's interests and of course, the community's interests are often not -YOUR- interests. Even still, a Representative has to know when the community is being ******** and know how to say no. The community is not always right, much in the same way the customer is not always right. In the end the only thing that matters is what goes on in that meeting room with CCP, and what goes on in that Skype channel. They don't have to be friendly - they have to be objective.
Rattati and Team are here to fix the game; CPM are here to function as liaison between us and them. Some of us have good ideas but bad interpersonal skills and/or problems with temper, ego, etc. Those people make for sub-optimal liaisons, and those people would serve the community far better as subject matter experts than CPMs.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
6
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:29:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:There was an insurmountable amount of alcohol involved in that situation. There's a reason people don't drink and do the alliance panel anymore. (And as soon as Mittens was sober, he was extremely, extremely apologetic, and voluntarily stepped down.) I found the video. He doesn't seem to be slurring his words very much Besides, what is the saying, "A drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts". Glad he stepped down voluntarily though. That shows some basic respect for his position on some level.
Not everyone slurs their words when they're drunk. He literally didn't know what he said until he watched the video on YouTube after he got back from Iceland.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:33:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:
Rattati and Team are here to fix the game; CPM are here to function as liaison between us and them. Some of us have good ideas but bad interpersonal skills and/or problems with temper, ego, etc. Those people make for sub-optimal liaisons, and those people would serve the community far better as subject matter experts than CPMs.
You got this -ALL- wrong. If CCP is here to fix the game and the CPM doesn't call them out on their BS then we'll just have another incident with Uprising 1.0 - 1.8.
I'll post the video again because you clearly -DID NOT WATCH IT-. Click the link, and listen.
https://youtu.be/7kat_uoAvnk?t=1m59s
CCP: "It's easy to be friends when everything is going swell."
The Mittani: "- we were a little mean." CCP: "Yes, you used strong wording." The Mittani: "It was kind of - maybe a little awkward when we watched the expressions of the CCPers as they read our statement" CCP: "Well sure, I think it's important here to remember that each party plays it's role. You guys are playing your role of keeping us in check."
It doesn't get any more clear than that. That right there is -all- the CPM should be concerned with. Your feelings toward them or their behavior have absolutely nothing to do with this.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:33:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Not everyone slurs their words when they're drunk. He literally didn't know what he said until he watched the video on YouTube after he got back from Iceland. He got black out drunk and didn't slur his words? I'm going to call bullshit on that.
@Ripley_Riley
"I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:36:00 -
[143] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Not everyone slurs their words when they're drunk. He literally didn't know what he said until he watched the video on YouTube after he got back from Iceland. He got black out drunk and didn't slur his words? I'm going to call bullshit on that. My Grandad can get flat out drunk and the only thing that changes is him speaking loudly.
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:37:00 -
[144] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:
Rattati and Team are here to fix the game; CPM are here to function as liaison between us and them. Some of us have good ideas but bad interpersonal skills and/or problems with temper, ego, etc. Those people make for sub-optimal liaisons, and those people would serve the community far better as subject matter experts than CPMs.
You got this -ALL- wrong. If CCP is here to fix the game and the CPM doesn't call them out on their BS then we'll just have another incident with Uprising 1.0 - 1.8. If we wanted a repeat of Early Uprising, we'd get there fastest by putting you, Sgt Kirk and rest of the Team Gallente in charge.
Go Gallente MedFrames! Go Gallente Fine Rifles!
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:42:00 -
[145] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Not everyone slurs their words when they're drunk. He literally didn't know what he said until he watched the video on YouTube after he got back from Iceland. He got black out drunk and didn't slur his words? I'm going to call bullshit on that. My Grandad can get flat out drunk and the only thing that changes is him speaking loudly.
It's cool bro, your Granddad could have been a firefighter who saved hundreds of lives but the one drunken act means that none of that matters. Don't you know? Never forget, never forgive, that whole mantra. You're not allowed to make mistakes or have flaws BECAUSE THAT'S NOT PROPER FIREFIGHTER MATERIAL
Or whatever people think.
Because sincere public apologies, resignation of senior positions, and the forfeiture of all in-game assets to the victim are clearly not enough to prove a person's shame and they should all be hung from the trees at the first slight.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:43:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:
Rattati and Team are here to fix the game; CPM are here to function as liaison between us and them. Some of us have good ideas but bad interpersonal skills and/or problems with temper, ego, etc. Those people make for sub-optimal liaisons, and those people would serve the community far better as subject matter experts than CPMs.
You got this -ALL- wrong. If CCP is here to fix the game and the CPM doesn't call them out on their BS then we'll just have another incident with Uprising 1.0 - 1.8. If we wanted a repeat of Early Uprising, we'd get there fastest by putting you, Sgt Kirk and rest of the Team Gallente in charge. [i]Go Gallente MedFrames! Go Gallente Fine Rifles![/i CCP has data to guide them. They aren't blind without CPM, and they'd be better advised by a CPM who are open-minded and in touch with the Community than a panel full of know-it-alls peddling their personal agendas.
And right back to the Ad Hominem - because you can't improve your argument.
Peace, bro.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:46:00 -
[147] - Quote
Imaginary spaceship council member =/= real life firefighter. More leeway can be given to someone who actually does something valuable with their life. Geez, you're getting pretty emotional here. Chill.
I am hearing from Soraya that he stepped down. That's good. He did the right thing and we should give him credit for that much at least. He ****** up and, like an adult, accepted the consequences for his actions.
@Ripley_Riley
"I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:48:00 -
[148] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote: ...because you can't improve your argument.
What would you like me to prove? That people like Cross and Pokey are better equipped to represent the Community than tantrum throwers like you, Sgt Kirk and Appia? Does that really need to be proven?
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:52:00 -
[149] - Quote
I should run for CPM
Just because for some reason I hate myself more than usual today
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:52:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Imaginary spaceship council member =/= real life firefighter. More leeway can be given to someone who actually does something valuable with their life. Geez, you're getting pretty emotional here. Chill. I am hearing from Soraya that he stepped down. That's good. He did the right thing and we should give him credit for that much at least. He ****** up and, like an adult, accepted the consequences for his actions.
I'm not at all comparing the two, I'm illustrating the fact that a single mistake or flaw to you people is enough to completely destroy them. And, yeah, I have a tendency to get emotional over the things that are important to me - if you haven't figured that out by now, well, deal with it. /shrug I don't think a person's mistakes or flaws define who they are and I'll argue with you until death about it.
The Mittani didn't 'accept the consequences', he orchestrated consequences of his own out of guilt. Originally he was hit by a 30-day ban from the game and that was pretty much it. He stepped down of his own volition, gave all his assets to the person, and then made a public apology. If you still think that his reputation and all the good he did mean absolutely nothing because of that, even after he made the willing, conscious decision to make amends, well - pssh, you're more of a monster than he is.
Just saying, he could have just taken his 30-day ban and went about his life like nothing happened.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:53:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: ...because you can't improve your argument.
What would you like me to prove? That people like Cross and Pokey are better equipped to represent the Community than tantrum throwers like you, Sgt Kirk and Appia? Does that really need to be proven?
Hahaha, you should see Pokey on Skype. Another classic example of forum behavior =/= the actual person.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:56:00 -
[152] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: ...because you can't improve your argument.
What would you like me to prove? That people like Cross and Pokey are better equipped to represent the Community than tantrum throwers like you, Sgt Kirk and Appia? Does that really need to be proven? Hahaha, you should see Pokey on Skype. Another classic example of forum behavior =/= the actual person. I've interacted with Pokey a 'bit. If he's crazy, he's better at hiding it than some. Points for willpower. Points for intellect.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:00:00 -
[153] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: ...because you can't improve your argument.
What would you like me to prove? That people like Cross and Pokey are better equipped to represent the Community than tantrum throwers like you, Sgt Kirk and Appia? Does that really need to be proven? Hahaha, you should see Pokey on Skype. Another classic example of forum behavior =/= the actual person.
Pokey's crazy, but the good kind of crazy. The CPM would benefit from technical minds as much as social and creative minds.
Pokey's creative. Not very social, but creative.
I have to stick him in the ass with a cattle prod to get him to chatter in comms
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:02:00 -
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I might run just to spite you, Adipem. Not like I have anything to lose by running.
Be even more hilarious if I win.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:02:00 -
[155] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:I should run for CPM
Just because for some reason I hate myself more than usual today I honestly think you'd make a great CPM. We had our moments but your definitely know what your talking about more than most and you're pretty damn vocal about it, I respect that.
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:04:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:I should run for CPM
Just because for some reason I hate myself more than usual today I honestly think you'd make a great CPM. We had our moments but your definitely know what your talking about more than most and you're pretty damn vocal about it, I respect that.
Yeah but there was that one time he did that thing. He's dead to me because of that.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:05:00 -
[157] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i would like to see Aeon Amadi get on just because he is so bat sh*t crazy i think it will be at least entertaining to watch what happens...
Aeon Amadi wrote:I might run just to spite you, Adipem. Not like I have anything to lose by running.
Be even more hilarious if I win. I hope you run, and I hope you win. I might even vote for you myself ... in secret, of course.
+1
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:06:00 -
[158] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:I should run for CPM
Just because for some reason I hate myself more than usual today I honestly think you'd make a great CPM. We had our moments but your definitely know what your talking about more than most and you're pretty damn vocal about it, I respect that. Yeah but there was that one time he did that thing. He's dead to me because of that. Shut up or I'll do it again. to you this time.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:26:00 -
[159] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:I should run for CPM
Just because for some reason I hate myself more than usual today I honestly think you'd make a great CPM. We had our moments but your definitely know what your talking about more than most and you're pretty damn vocal about it, I respect that. Yeah but there was that one time he did that thing. He's dead to me because of that. Shut up or I'll do it again. to you this time.
DEAD TO ME - BREAKIN - DEAD TO ME
Anyway, was a fun (stupid) chat guys but I gotta go run and handle up on school instead of playing Dust 514 because I'm such a bitter vet and all. It's okay though, I put in my two weeks at work about three months ago so I should have a lot more free time to play soon.
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
741
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Posted - 2015.05.26 17:46:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:There are a worrying number of you saying X will have my vote.
A lot of players did that last time not realising they had up to seven votes in the order you like the candidates in. Bear that mind when choosing candidates. You are also on my list nowGǪ because I forgot how sensible you are Well, sensible is a subjective term. I was walking around Fanfest dressed as a merc and carrying a Quafe Sniper rifle after all.
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Imp Smash
molon labe. RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.29 01:24:00 -
[161] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Someone who is largely unbiased and doesn't have an agenda of any type to push. Also brains are a must. I don't care how rational a person you are if you aren't smart enough to smell other people's bs.
I think maybe only 2 such people that I know of are likely to run. Agendas are good. But a willingness to LISTEN to the agendas of others and COMPROMISE for the health of the game is a must. A CPM should have a clear idea of what they want to accomplish from the get-go, and be prepared to accept that these priorities may change if given new information.
You are correct. I guess I didn't word that properly. I guess "pushing an agenda" would have been the better phrasing. Because the vast majority of Agendas that are pushed are not unbiased.
When someone has something set in their mind they pretty much ignore all discussion, evidence, and logic to the contrary. I would like to avoid that. Hence, the CPM member I would vote for has beliefs that they will not hammer in to people or (and what CPM are actually able to do) manipulate the phrasing of said beliefs and their counterarguments when discussing with CCP to imply different contexts. Context is a dangerous thing and is why we need unbiased people. Assuming that we have unbiased people -- then agendas get less destructive and more active.
But pushy pushers never consider that. Hence, I worry about that type of person's ability to try to break down their own argument without subconsciously defending it.
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Void Echo
Helix Order Learning Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.05.29 03:02:00 -
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When I have an alliance of my own with at least 1 pc planet under my control, IL run for CPM (if the game is still online by that time)
Closed Beta Vet.
My Youtube.
"Until all are free"
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.05.29 03:09:00 -
[163] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:
On the topic of keeping a cool head, I hear that Sgt Kirk has been working on his fit throwing in light of the upcoming elections. What are your thoughts on this, Aeon?
He is but he is making huge strides forward with it. The other day...... I almost thought I felt his pain.
But I discounted that a indigestion.
Regardless I shall be your new CPM You Minmatar are ******! (despite them being my second favourite race and my desire to see Nefantar/Ammatar SKINS and beautiful DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA tanks, dropships, and LAV in game)
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.29 04:03:00 -
[164] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:
On the topic of keeping a cool head, I hear that Sgt Kirk has been working on his fit throwing in light of the upcoming elections. What are your thoughts on this, Aeon?
He is but he is making huge strides forward with it. The other day...... I almost thought I felt his pain. But I discounted that a indigestion. Regardless I shall be your new CPM You Minmatar are ******! (despite them being my second favourite race and my desire to see Nefantar/Ammatar SKINS and beautiful DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA tanks, dropships, and LAV in game) Nerd
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:02:00 -
[165] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:And again, because apparently I didn't get the point across the first time. A CPM's behavior on the forums? Has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to CPM.
I would disagree.
Think of Cross Atu or IWS. If I was to have removed all of their forum posting...I'd not have voted for either of them.
Their behavior on the forums was directly indicative to me of whether I found them worthy or wanting.
Appia? Completely indicative of her potential behavior in my opinion.
I'm not suggesting there can't be exceptions...my behavior on the forums was 50% shitting on people in the war room. But I also had numerous other threads where I was constructive without pulling an Appia when someone disagreed...and strived to improve when I fell short.
Just my opinion
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:07:00 -
[166] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:
Would strongly oppose: Zatara Rought
* Strikethroughs reported that they do not intent to run
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Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:29:00 -
[167] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:... this community is so great Sgt Kirk wrote:90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots ^ Community Representative material? Click here for 5 more pages of you calling us idiots. Your good friend Zatara successfully ran a "I'm humble now!" campaign. He's got an ego like you've got a temper, and once elected, it showed. People will say whatever it takes to get a vote. You say you're open-minded now. That you listen to people. That you're working on your hot temper. I hope you are. And if you get elected, I really hope you are. But after Zatara, I'm not inclined to believe you. I'm more inclined to believe that you'll be exactly who you've always been, and that someone is plain to see in your post history. TL;DR: I think you have good ideas, Kirk, but I think you'd be a terrible community representative.
Lol I don't know where I ran a "I'm a humble person" campaign. I ran a "I represent PC" campaign, and I have pushed a PC agenda.
Anyone that knows me knows that my ego hasn't affected my capacity to serve on the CPM. Just because I don't kiss ass and play nice with the circlejerk in the barbershop doesn't lend any credibility to the bullshit you're propagating. Sorry bud.
If you'd like to prove my ego somehow crippled my capacity to serve on the CPM then please by all means.
Some day you'll learn that everyone's got flaws and they all suck balls and no one is any better than the next.
If you think you'll get fulfillment out of trying to put others down, then I pity you. If you think I was crippled as a CPM because of my pride...then I respectfully disagree, and don't think my fellow CPM or CCP would agree with you.
You can attempt to rewrite **** so that it fits your distorted worldview if it pleases you, but reality isn't fashioned by your bias.
I think if you stop drinking the kool-aid and wanted to actually know a **** about me with an open mind you'd be as surprised as Sari was...or anyone else who ever came to FA and said that I was different than their perception of me.
But that's up to you bud. :)
I live to serve people...my personality is ENTJ primary closely followed by ENFJ.
Whatever I did to make you so upset, I'm sure we could hammer it out if it's something you were interested in.
If not then I guess it really is demonstrative of who you are and where you are as a person.
You can write all sorts of mean things and I'm here telling you let's be friends. lol
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:37:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:@ himiko, who were the two cpm who played and "understood" the game the most?
Judge and zatara. Where are they now?
Most people, myself included, put these two on their ballot simply because of their game experience. They had a lot more in-game experience than most likely the rest of the candidates combined (sorry guys.) Turns out, they have been the worst two CPM members to date (barring maybe jenza and Kane, who ironically had the most game experience from CPM 0.)
What...how have I been a bad CPM?
When did this ole' circlejerk start?
If you have legitimate concerns/reason why you think I'm doing a poor job please feel free to list your grievances or PM me about it.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.06.03 08:27:00 -
[169] - Quote
Vesta Opalus wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:There are a worrying number of you saying X will have my vote.
A lot of players did that last time not realising they had up to seven votes in the order you like the candidates in. Bear that mind when choosing candidates. You are also on my list nowGǪ because I forgot how sensible you are Well, sensible is a subjective term. I was walking around Fanfest dressed as a merc and carrying a Quafe Sniper rifle after all. But were you drinking quafe soda?
I was speeding my **** off from the suger in the Quafe soda.
CPM 1 member
CEO of DUST University
Vist dustcpm.com
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CCP Frame
C C P C C P Alliance
6
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Posted - 2015.06.03 10:34:00 -
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There is way too much drama in this place right now.
I can tell you all that _every single current CPM1 member_ has been extremely active and valuable to us, whether that being planetary conquest, game balance, specific game design decisions, events, and other feedback that we asked them to give us. It can't be stressed enough that each one of the current 5 members was and is contributing to the conversation on their own and it is very appreciated by the whole development team.
And no, they never pushed for their personal agenda. They are very objective and talk to not only us but to their friends and corp mates as well before they give us their overall feedback and even sometimes spark a whole discussion regarding some topic.
So yeah. It is probably best for you all to simply know that we are more than happy to work with the CPM1 and will continue to do so until end of July when we will start slowly transitioning into CPM2 and hopefully have once again great people on the council. Because that's what ultimately matters. Having good guys and making the game better together.
CCP Frame, CCP Community Team
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.06.03 11:38:00 -
[171] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:There is way too much drama in this thread right now.
I can tell you all that _every single current CPM1 member_ has been extremely active and valuable to us, whether that being planetary conquest, game balance, specific game design decisions, events, and other feedback that we asked them to give us. It can't be stressed enough that each one of the current 5 members was and is contributing to the conversation on their own and it is very appreciated by the whole development team.
And no, they never pushed for their personal agenda. They are very objective and talk to not only us but to their friends and corp mates as well before they give us their overall feedback and even sometimes spark a whole discussion regarding some specific topic that is at hand. Keep in mind that there are time zones that we need to synchronize as well, so there is always a slight delay in discussion but never complete silence. In fact, we talk 24/7.
So yeah. It is probably best for you all to simply know that we are more than happy to work with CPM1 and will continue to do so until the end of July when we will start slowly transitioning into CPM2 and hopefully have once again great people on the council. Because that's what ultimately matters. Having good guys and making the game better together.
Utimately this boils down to believing that the CPM has more than an advisory capacity in this creative process.
They seem to believe that the CPM gets to dictate design decisions rather than strongly suggest and present evidence as to why.
And there's way too much assumption of "Oh my, something happened that I don't like! (Insert disliked CPM member here) is to blame for this outrage!)
that's if they're not too busy making personal attacks about you and rattati, calling you all incompetent or something.
Posting histories are AMAZING to look at.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
1
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Posted - 2015.06.03 11:54:00 -
[172] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:
Utimately this boils down to believing that the CPM has more than an advisory capacity in this creative process.
They seem to believe that the CPM gets to dictate design decisions rather than strongly suggest and present evidence as to why.
And there's way too much assumption of "Oh my, something happened that I don't like! (Insert disliked CPM member here) is to blame for this outrage!)
that's if they're not too busy making personal attacks about you and rattati, calling you all incompetent or something.
Posting histories are AMAZING to look at.
Cant forget, just because the CPM are chosen by a vote, doesn't mean they are some sort of DUST 514 parliment.
Just CCP telling us to pick 7 guys that they want to chat with on upcoming features before the forums find out.
My vote will be based on who i think will give the most relevant advice. My only source is whats out in the public sphere. Because CPM cannot break NDA.
Based on that behavior, there are some i will certainly not support. Others i am more open to.
Long story short: BAMM HAVOC CPM2
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
The Templis Dragonaurs Evil Syndicate Alliance.
96
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Posted - 2015.06.03 11:58:00 -
[173] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:There is way too much drama in this thread right now.
I can tell you all that _every single current CPM1 member_ has been extremely active and valuable to us, whether that being planetary conquest, game balance, specific game design decisions, events, and other feedback that we asked them to give us. It can't be stressed enough that each one of the current 5 members was and is contributing to the conversation on their own and it is very appreciated by the whole development team.
And no, they never pushed for their personal agenda. They are very objective and talk to not only us but to their friends and corp mates as well before they give us their overall feedback and even sometimes spark a whole discussion regarding some specific topic that is at hand. Keep in mind that there are time zones that we need to synchronize as well, so there is always a slight delay in discussion but never complete silence. In fact, we talk 24/7.
So yeah. It is probably best for you all to simply know that we are more than happy to work with CPM1 and will continue to do so until the end of July when we will start slowly transitioning into CPM2 and hopefully have once again great people on the council. Because that's what ultimately matters. Having good guys and making the game better together.
Yes its like voting for prom king, dirtying the reputations of those who stand now or may in the future, but try to see who's saying what and remember them later as you vote. Do you want anyone as CPM who can go as low as this? Actually thinking a CPM can manipulate CCP into changing Dust for there sole benift is laughable.
'There is an art to dying, but its a dying art.'
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
8
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Posted - 2015.06.03 12:25:00 -
[174] - Quote
CPM 2 thread, 9 pages mix of b*tching and trolling.
I'm genuinely excited who you guys pick for CPM2.
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
6
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Posted - 2015.06.03 13:52:00 -
[175] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:It can't be stressed enough that each one of the current 5 members was and is contributing to the conversation on their own and it is very appreciated by the whole development team.
There's six of us though. :)
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.06.03 13:53:00 -
[176] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:There is way too much drama in this thread right now.
I can tell you all that _every single current CPM1 member_ has been extremely active and valuable to us, whether that being planetary conquest, game balance, specific game design decisions, events, and other feedback that we asked them to give us. It can't be stressed enough that each one of the current 5 members was and is contributing to the conversation on their own and it is very appreciated by the whole development team.. I am dying here...
<3 Frame
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.06.03 13:55:00 -
[177] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:There is way too much drama in this thread right now.
I can tell you all that _every single current CPM1 member_ has been extremely active and valuable to us, whether that being planetary conquest, game balance, specific game design decisions, events, and other feedback that we asked them to give us. It can't be stressed enough that each one of the current 5 members was and is contributing to the conversation on their own and it is very appreciated by the whole development team.
And no, they never pushed for their personal agenda. They are very objective and talk to not only us but to their friends and corp mates as well before they give us their overall feedback and even sometimes spark a whole discussion regarding some specific topic that is at hand. Keep in mind that there are time zones that we need to synchronize as well, so there is always a slight delay in discussion but never complete silence. In fact, we talk 24/7.
So yeah. It is probably best for you all to simply know that we are more than happy to work with CPM1 and will continue to do so until the end of July when we will start slowly transitioning into CPM2 and hopefully have once again great people on the council. Because that's what ultimately matters. Having good guys and making the game better together. This post is perfect.
Excellent job of halting the drama train in the station.
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.06.03 13:57:00 -
[178] - Quote
But nevertheless, thank you Frame for both finally confirming that there will in fact be a CPM1 and addressing some of the douchery going on.
Hopefully the majority of these types of conversations will move on to a more appropriate venue and tone soon enough.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1
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Posted - 2015.06.03 13:58:00 -
[179] - Quote
Depends on who's running and the focus of next year, really. Certain people would be better, say if the focus was on EVE integration. Others would be if it was about lore, missions, and factional warfare.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:01:00 -
[180] - Quote
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe. RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:04:00 -
[181] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:CCP Frame wrote:There is way too much drama in this thread right now.
I can tell you all that _every single current CPM1 member_ has been extremely active and valuable to us, whether that being planetary conquest, game balance, specific game design decisions, events, and other feedback that we asked them to give us. It can't be stressed enough that each one of the current 5 members was and is contributing to the conversation on their own and it is very appreciated by the whole development team.
And no, they never pushed for their personal agenda. They are very objective and talk to not only us but to their friends and corp mates as well before they give us their overall feedback and even sometimes spark a whole discussion regarding some specific topic that is at hand. Keep in mind that there are time zones that we need to synchronize as well, so there is always a slight delay in discussion but never complete silence. In fact, we talk 24/7.
So yeah. It is probably best for you all to simply know that we are more than happy to work with CPM1 and will continue to do so until the end of July when we will start slowly transitioning into CPM2 and hopefully have once again great people on the council. Because that's what ultimately matters. Having good guys and making the game better together. This post is perfect. Excellent job of halting the drama train in the station.
Is that what you told my sister when you murdered her?
Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi
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CPM Awox
Mexican Justice League
284
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:52:00 -
[182] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:There is way too much drama in this thread right now.
I can tell you all that _every single current CPM1 member_ has been extremely active and valuable to us, whether that being planetary conquest, game balance, specific game design decisions, events, and other feedback that we asked them to give us. It can't be stressed enough that each one of the current 5 members was and is contributing to the conversation on their own and it is very appreciated by the whole development team.
And no, they never pushed for their personal agenda. They are very objective and talk to not only us but to their friends and corp mates as well before they give us their overall feedback and even sometimes spark a whole discussion regarding some specific topic that is at hand. Keep in mind that there are time zones that we need to synchronize as well, so there is always a slight delay in discussion but never complete silence. In fact, we talk 24/7.
So yeah. It is probably best for you all to simply know that we are more than happy to work with CPM1 and will continue to do so until the end of July when we will start slowly transitioning into CPM2 and hopefully have once again great people on the council. Because that's what ultimately matters. Having good guys and making the game better together. Even me?
Killed again has Super-Ebola.
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Haerr
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
3
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:58:00 -
[183] - Quote
Can I vote for Judge Rhada again?
Jumping is Strafing UP
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Kinky Fat Bastard
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
17
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Posted - 2015.06.03 16:47:00 -
[184] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:CCP Frame wrote:It can't be stressed enough that each one of the current 5 members was and is contributing to the conversation on their own and it is very appreciated by the whole development team. There's six of us though. :)
He wasn't talking about IWS.
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Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
195
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Posted - 2015.06.03 19:10:00 -
[185] - Quote
I agree that whoever complains about the current CPM needs to sit on it and rotate.
If you have a problem with the current CPM then try to talk to them and reason with them to get your point across. It is getting mad because the candidate you voted for lost. Learn to live with the situation and improve it. Take some ownership of this world!
GÇ£Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done! Now, if you know what you're worth, then go out and get what you're worth. But you gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that and that ain't you. You're better than that! I'm always gonna love you, no matter what. No matter what happens. You're my son and you're my blood. You're the best thing in my life. But until you start believing in yourself, you ain't gonna have a life.GÇ¥ GÇò Sylvester Stallone, Rocky Balboa http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/10446115-rocky-balboa
With the team chat gone, we need to really start leveraging the squad finder!
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.06.03 20:31:00 -
[186] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:CCP Frame wrote:It can't be stressed enough that each one of the current 5 members was and is contributing to the conversation on their own and it is very appreciated by the whole development team. There's six of us though. :) Someone clearly hasn't been doing ****
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.06.03 21:17:00 -
[187] - Quote
Zatara Rought wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:And again, because apparently I didn't get the point across the first time. A CPM's behavior on the forums? Has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to CPM. I would disagree. Think of Cross Atu or IWS. If I was to have removed all of their forum posting...I'd not have voted for either of them. Their behavior on the forums was directly indicative to me of whether I found them worthy or wanting. Appia? Completely indicative of her potential behavior in my opinion. I'm not suggesting there can't be exceptions...my behavior on the forums was 50% shitting on people in the war room. But I also had numerous other threads where I was constructive without pulling an Appia when someone disagreed...and strived to improve when I fell short. Just my opinion
So, you've never once considered it easier to say something on the forums as opposed to in person/on skype?
You've never once realized that something you, or someone else said was taken out of context due to a lack of tone illustrated via text?
Can you tell how the tone with which I am typing this right now? Sarcastic? Facetious? Patronizing? Serious? Sympathetic? Curious? Inspired? Jealous?
Must be a real feat to be able to understand exactly what a person is saying without being able to hear how they convey the message. (^ Pro-tip, that was disingenuous)
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
19
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Posted - 2015.06.03 21:33:00 -
[188] - Quote
Except; people form a personality of sorts over a consistent posting history length. for example I read all of Aeon's posts as disingenuous or angry...
CPM 1, Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
196
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Posted - 2015.06.03 21:38:00 -
[189] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Except; people form a personality of sorts over a consistent posting history length. for example I read all of Aeon's posts as disingenuous or angry...
Or constipated!
With the team chat gone, we need to really start leveraging the squad finder!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
19
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Posted - 2015.06.03 22:12:00 -
[190] - Quote
Balistyc Farshot wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Except; people form a personality of sorts over a consistent posting history length. for example I read all of Aeon's posts as disingenuous or angry... Or constipated!
naw I only read it in that tone if I want to laugh.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.03 22:36:00 -
[191] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:And again, because apparently I didn't get the point across the first time. A CPM's behavior on the forums? Has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to CPM. I would disagree. Think of Cross Atu or IWS. If I was to have removed all of their forum posting...I'd not have voted for either of them. Their behavior on the forums was directly indicative to me of whether I found them worthy or wanting. Appia? Completely indicative of her potential behavior in my opinion. I'm not suggesting there can't be exceptions...my behavior on the forums was 50% shitting on people in the war room. But I also had numerous other threads where I was constructive without pulling an Appia when someone disagreed...and strived to improve when I fell short. Just my opinion So, you've never once considered it easier to say something on the forums as opposed to in person/on skype? You've never once realized that something you, or someone else said was taken out of context due to a lack of tone illustrated via text? Can you tell how the tone with which I am typing this right now? Sarcastic? Facetious? Patronizing? Serious? Sympathetic? Curious? Inspired? Jealous? Must be a real feat to be able to understand exactly what a person is saying without being able to hear how they convey the message. (^ Pro-tip, that was disingenuous) Forum personality =/= In person personality. Think pretty much all of us who went to Fanfest proved this considering our polar opposite attitudes toward one another in game.
No, I don't find either easier or more difficult.
I've seen plenty of times stuff get taken out of context. That doesn't diminish that Cross' and IWS forum posting was very indicative of how they were as CPM and that it was the single most important factor in deciding to support them.
Context to a canvas of posting is all well and good and I support getting further context always.
But saying that a CPM's posting has nothing to do with their ability to serve? I remain highly skeptical and have demonstrated instances where I find this to be untrue.
I don't pretend to know at all about your tone ever, unless you are explicit, and even then I have no problem (as I said earlier) asking for further context.
I didn't say I pretended to be aware of people's tones. I am asserting that I disagree that people's posting on the forums isn't relevant to making a decision about their ability to serve on the CPM. I think it is highly relevant and conclusions can be drawn from people's posting.
Forum personality is indicative of in person personality.
Sure there are exceptions as I said...I feel no remorse for **** talking in the war room. But my feedback and threads in the remainder of he forums wasn't me RP'ing lol.
I am totally comfortable with people holding me accountable for my posting.
I totally think people shouldn't take in game actions as relevant to a person's capacity to serve.
You shouldn't try to label a person a murderer IRL because they shoot noobs in game and enjoy it.
But yeah..if you fly off the handle like Appia did on the forums...I think it's completely misguided to think that we should sweep that under the rug.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.03 23:33:00 -
[192] - Quote
Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Didn't we already elect CPM 2, like, last year? That was CPM 1.
Before them was CPM 0.
Next up is CPM 2.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.06.04 04:06:00 -
[193] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Except; people form a personality of sorts over a consistent posting history length. for example I read all of Aeon's posts as disingenuous or angry...
-Long drawn out post that I wound up deleting because why feed the trolls-
Anyway, if any of you actually care to see the -real- me, you're welcome to meet me in person or talk to me in-game/on Skype. As many will attest (Kane Spero, ANON Illuminati, Demens, maybe even Zatara) my forum personality =/= my real life personality.
I'll understand if you don't want to though. Change is scary and actually talking to someone when you can't hide behind a computer screen is nerve wracking.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.06.04 04:44:00 -
[194] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote: my forum personality =/= my real life personality.
I think the thing that gets me about talking to people in game is that my voice is completely different to how people imagine me. Also I like to giggle a lot more and like to think I talk a lot less **** unless its about Aero.
"Crush all who complain!"
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
19
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Posted - 2015.06.04 09:45:00 -
[195] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Except; people form a personality of sorts over a consistent posting history length. for example I read all of Aeon's posts as disingenuous or angry... -Long drawn out post that I wound up deleting because why feed the trolls- Anyway, if any of you actually care to see the -real- me, you're welcome to meet me in person or talk to me in-game/on Skype. As many will attest (Kane Spero, ANON Illuminati, Demens, maybe even Zatara) my forum personality =/= my real life personality. I'll understand if you don't want to though. Change is scary and actually talking to someone when you can't hide behind a computer screen is nerve wracking.
Sadly I am a person incapable of having a persona aside from myself.
Only difference between me on the forums and me in real life is the fact I don't have to interrupt anyone to say anything.
CPM 1, Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
8
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Posted - 2015.06.04 13:16:00 -
[196] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Except; people form a personality of sorts over a consistent posting history length. for example I read all of Aeon's posts as disingenuous or angry... -Long drawn out post that I wound up deleting because why feed the trolls- Anyway, if any of you actually care to see the -real- me, you're welcome to meet me in person or talk to me in-game/on Skype. As many will attest (Kane Spero, ANON Illuminati, Demens, maybe even Zatara) my forum personality =/= my real life personality. I'll understand if you don't want to though. Change is scary and actually talking to someone when you can't hide behind a computer screen is nerve wracking. Sadly I am a person incapable of having a persona aside from myself. Only difference between me on the forums and me in real life is the fact I don't have to interrupt anyone to say anything. how about you two 1v1 in real life?
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you.
CBM In the CPM
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2
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[197] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Except; people form a personality of sorts over a consistent posting history length. for example I read all of Aeon's posts as disingenuous or angry... -Long drawn out post that I wound up deleting because why feed the trolls- Anyway, if any of you actually care to see the -real- me, you're welcome to meet me in person or talk to me in-game/on Skype. As many will attest (Kane Spero, ANON Illuminati, Demens, maybe even Zatara) my forum personality =/= my real life personality. I'll understand if you don't want to though. Change is scary and actually talking to someone when you can't hide behind a computer screen is nerve wracking. Sadly I am a person incapable of having a persona aside from myself. Only difference between me on the forums and me in real life is the fact I don't have to interrupt anyone to say anything. how about you two 1v1 in real life?
To the death. Winner gets a permanent CPM seat.
Sometimes I THINK you're r-tarded, most times I KNOW you're r-tarded. I less than three you DUST forums.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.06.04 14:50:00 -
[198] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Didn't we already elect CPM 2, like, last year? That was CPM 1. Before them was CPM 0. Next up is CPM 2. Apparently, CCP doesn't know how counting works.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.06.04 16:21:00 -
[199] - Quote
Scheneighnay McBob wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Didn't we already elect CPM 2, like, last year? That was CPM 1. Before them was CPM 0. Next up is CPM 2. Apparently, CCP doesn't know how counting works. The order is 0-1-2 that's still correct.
Songs of Seraphim, Never Forget
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.06.04 16:26:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote: To the death. Winner gets a permanent CPM seat.
So the reward for victory is...
Lifelong punishment?
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
6
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Posted - 2015.06.04 16:32:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Didn't we already elect CPM 2, like, last year? That was CPM 1. Before them was CPM 0. Next up is CPM 2. Apparently, CCP doesn't know how counting works.
Actually, computers count integers starting from 0. :)
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.06.04 16:34:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote: To the death. Winner gets a permanent CPM seat.
So the reward for victory is... Lifelong punishment?
Lol, IWS can have the seat. I don't need a CPM seat to do what I do. Only reason I ever even remotely considered running is because Corp/Alliance mates keep $%@#ing hounding me about it all the time.
Although I wouldn't mind taking on a few people from the forums in a 1v1 Thunderdome sort of deal. First to 10 clones?
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Koch Rosenzweig
THE LAST H0PE. RUST415
206
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Posted - 2015.06.04 16:36:00 -
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I like turtles
Slap in your biotic ass.
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Balistyc Farshot
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
200
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Posted - 2015.06.04 18:26:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote: To the death. Winner gets a permanent CPM seat.
So the reward for victory is... Lifelong punishment? Lol, IWS can have the seat. I don't need a CPM seat to do what I do. Only reason I ever even remotely considered running is because Corp/Alliance mates keep $%@#ing hounding me about it all the time. Although I wouldn't mind taking on a few people from the forums in a 1v1 Thunderdome sort of deal. First to 10 clones?
Start a thread and channel! I am sure lots of people want to apply bullets to your face. I don't feel a need to, but I still will participate.
Just saying, save me a spot in that line. Be sure you both voice into the channel so your enemy can hear your war cry.
With the team chat gone, we need to really start leveraging the squad finder!
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe. RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.06.04 18:44:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Didn't we already elect CPM 2, like, last year? That was CPM 1. Before them was CPM 0. Next up is CPM 2. Apparently, CCP doesn't know how counting works. Actually, computers count integers starting from 0. :)
naturals*
Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi
Have a pony
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
19
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Posted - 2015.06.05 09:57:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Except; people form a personality of sorts over a consistent posting history length. for example I read all of Aeon's posts as disingenuous or angry... -Long drawn out post that I wound up deleting because why feed the trolls- Anyway, if any of you actually care to see the -real- me, you're welcome to meet me in person or talk to me in-game/on Skype. As many will attest (Kane Spero, ANON Illuminati, Demens, maybe even Zatara) my forum personality =/= my real life personality. I'll understand if you don't want to though. Change is scary and actually talking to someone when you can't hide behind a computer screen is nerve wracking. Sadly I am a person incapable of having a persona aside from myself. Only difference between me on the forums and me in real life is the fact I don't have to interrupt anyone to say anything. how about you two 1v1 in real life?
Aeon has about a good 100-200 lbs and a half foot over me and I am no longer as fast as I used to be; he'd likely win if it was just fisticuffs.
Marksmanship on the other hand I cannot gauge his ability but I am fairly confident in my own.
and for subterfuge and less than honorable combat... I rather not talk about it makes people uncomfortable.
CPM 1, Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:28:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:A good record is not necessarily a sign of intimate knowledge, however a poor record is a definite sign of none. So yes, a minimum KDR threshold is a good restriction. Does anyone in their right mind honestly believe IWS is a good player? It doesn't matter how hard working he is if all of his ideas are bad. Do you honestly believe he brings anything intelligent to the table? Be serious. How can he?
It's impossible for him to do so. He doesn't understand how anything works, and thats why he can't kill anything. If he did understand, he'd be more successful at the game itself. It's as simple as that. This isn't a troll, a flame, or any kind of bait. The CPM system is fundamentally bad. Society works by cycling the most useless people to the top as regularly as possible. People are not put into their positions by skill or merit. They are put into positions by making friends and being social with the right individuals. It has nothing to do with their ability, understanding or competence of any particular field.
Aside from Zatara I would confidently say that the CPM is largely useless.
And if I was Zatara, I'd have given up working with such individuals a long time ago.
I suppose Cross gets an honorable mention for actually trying though.
Sorry for any feathers this ruffles, but the CPM are pretty much all terrible at this game and should not be in any position whatsoever to help direct where it's going. I will give 10/10 for the well crafted troll, grats on that. But it is a bit obvious, no? After all the reasoning "Engineers should not be designing space ships because they cannot pass the astronaut admission standards" is pretty blatantly broken
Do we really believe that CCP Rattati and every other member of the Dust 514 Dev team are all secretly among the top of the leaderboards? Or alternately is the declaration that CCP Rattati and the new Dev team have not made any improvements to the game, or just gotten lucky in making them, or only done what they were told to do by feedback threads with no internal ability to assess or ascertain?
We'd best stop all those guys at Nike from designing shoes until we get their sprint and distance lap times established, it seems they've been undermining the Olympics this whole time
Still though, any troll post that suceeds in getting a response is a troll post that has attained a forum victory so again 10/10 on that, well played o7
CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.06.05 22:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Except; people form a personality of sorts over a consistent posting history length. for example I read all of Aeon's posts as disingenuous or angry... -Long drawn out post that I wound up deleting because why feed the trolls- Anyway, if any of you actually care to see the -real- me, you're welcome to meet me in person or talk to me in-game/on Skype. As many will attest (Kane Spero, ANON Illuminati, Demens, maybe even Zatara) my forum personality =/= my real life personality. I'll understand if you don't want to though. Change is scary and actually talking to someone when you can't hide behind a computer screen is nerve wracking. Sadly I am a person incapable of having a persona aside from myself. Only difference between me on the forums and me in real life is the fact I don't have to interrupt anyone to say anything. how about you two 1v1 in real life? Aeon has about a good 100-200 lbs and a half foot over me and I am no longer as fast as I used to be; he'd likely win if it was just fisticuffs. Marksmanship on the other hand I cannot gauge his ability but I am fairly confident in my own. and for subterfuge and less than honorable combat... I rather not talk about it makes people uncomfortable though the most difficult opponent there would be myself and convincing my motive to the point in needing to go that far in the first place.
Got damn, Saber, I'm only 250lbs... And honestly, I'm not big on fighting. Only came to blows maybe three times in my life and it was over non-sense I'd rather not even remember as being a reason for a fight.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
8
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Posted - 2015.06.05 22:36:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:-Long drawn out post that I wound up deleting because why feed the trolls- Anyway, if any of you actually care to see the -real- me, you're welcome to meet me in person or talk to me in-game/on Skype. As many will attest (Kane Spero, ANON Illuminati, Demens, maybe even Zatara) my forum personality =/= my real life personality. I'll understand if you don't want to though. Change is scary and actually talking to someone when you can't hide behind a computer screen is nerve wracking. Sadly I am a person incapable of having a persona aside from myself. Only difference between me on the forums and me in real life is the fact I don't have to interrupt anyone to say anything. how about you two 1v1 in real life? Aeon has about a good 100-200 lbs and a half foot over me and I am no longer as fast as I used to be; he'd likely win if it was just fisticuffs. Marksmanship on the other hand I cannot gauge his ability but I am fairly confident in my own. and for subterfuge and less than honorable combat... I rather not talk about it makes people uncomfortable though the most difficult opponent there would be myself and convincing my motive to the point in needing to go that far in the first place. Got damn, Saber, I'm only 250lbs... And honestly, I'm not big on fighting. Only came to blows maybe three times in my life and it was over non-sense I'd rather not even remember as being a reason for a fight. wow, this conversation is actually happening...
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you.
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Blueprint For Murder
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
444
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Posted - 2015.06.05 22:55:00 -
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CPM seems to restrictive I prefer to be aggressive and unforgiving with my complaints. The only cpm I really liked was judge he explained his positions with evidence and explanation to players and devs alike, he really seemed to want to make the game better. The best I have seen from other cpms is we are watching you (eye ball from congo) and the worse have been very foul and uninformed abuses of position.
If nothing else those with great minds should run to keep the corrupt out. I for one would much rather see inactive brilliance than active foolishness.
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
17
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Posted - 2015.06.06 08:58:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:CPM seems to restrictive I prefer to be aggressive and unforgiving with my complaints. The only cpm I really liked was judge he explained his positions with evidence and explanation to players and devs alike, he really seemed to want to make the game better. The best I have seen from other cpms is we are watching you (eye ball from congo) and the worse have been very foul and uninformed abuses of position.
If nothing else those with great minds should run to keep the corrupt out. I for one would much rather see inactive brilliance than active foolishness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOmp3HpAGgM
"To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.06 09:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Except; people form a personality of sorts over a consistent posting history length. for example I read all of Aeon's posts as disingenuous or angry... -Long drawn out post that I wound up deleting because why feed the trolls- Anyway, if any of you actually care to see the -real- me, you're welcome to meet me in person or talk to me in-game/on Skype. As many will attest (Kane Spero, ANON Illuminati, Demens, maybe even Zatara) my forum personality =/= my real life personality. I'll understand if you don't want to though. Change is scary and actually talking to someone when you can't hide behind a computer screen is nerve wracking. Sadly I am a person incapable of having a persona aside from myself. Only difference between me on the forums and me in real life is the fact I don't have to interrupt anyone to say anything.
I can attest that Anon is a nice guy in person (met at Fanfest) and that IWS requires not quite as much translation or head scratching in person. Mind you I've almost got my IWS translation skill to level 5.
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Yokal Bob
Dead Man's Game
916
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Posted - 2015.06.06 09:09:00 -
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I quit running for CPM1 after fanfest
Vote Dust for PS4
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Nightfury Wyrnspire
Seituoda Taskforce Command
20
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Posted - 2015.06.06 11:59:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:The only cpm I really liked was judge
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