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Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.05.23 18:45:00 -
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There are a worrying number of you saying X will have my vote.
A lot of players did that last time not realising they had up to seven votes in the order you like the candidates in. Bear that mind when choosing candidates.
CPM 1 member
CEO of DUST University
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.05.23 19:04:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:There are a worrying number of you saying X will have my vote.
A lot of players did that last time not realising they had up to seven votes in the order you like the candidates in. Bear that mind when choosing candidates.
You are also on my list nowGǪ because I forgot how sensible you are 
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:21:00 -
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It has been a year since we got CPM1 and haven't heard anything on CPM2 so I'm not counting on it. But now CPM1 players responding so maybe
FW always had a lot potential, and more than just a stepping stone for pc.
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Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:41:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Nonsense.
And I suppose that Phil Jackson and Bill Bellichek can't be experts in their respective sports because they can't dunk or tackle a 200 lb wall of muscle.
Your logic is heavily flawed.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:46:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:It has been a year since we got CPM1 and haven't heard anything on CPM2 so I'm not counting on it. But now CPM1 players responding so maybe
FW always had a lot potential, and more than just a stepping stone for pc.
With the speculation and signs around Legion being no more I would assume that (or if like to think) that this is a positive sign of DUSTs extended life span.
But even though they are staying with DUST my biggest concern is where its going. It can't survive on PS3 for long. It's going to have to evolve to another system. The "where" is what's got my hitting my lips.
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G Clone
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:53:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Sennina Sovereign wrote:In all honesty, I'd vote for Saxonmish. You have multiple votes. Not just one
No, just 1, transferable vote. |
sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:54:00 -
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Aero has my vote.
Kevall has it.
Sir ManBoy has one.
Cross Atu certainly has one.
Maybe IWS since I recently found the secret to IWSaberese.
Official Forum Bird
"Agony is the body cleansing itself." - Viktor Revon
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:56:00 -
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G Clone wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Sennina Sovereign wrote:In all honesty, I'd vote for Saxonmish. You have multiple votes. Not just one No, just 1, transferable vote.
Ah, yes I see what you meant now.
A lot of people voted for one person last time thinking that it was just a single vote and not ordered voting.
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.05.24 10:50:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:There are a worrying number of you saying X will have my vote.
A lot of players did that last time not realising they had up to seven votes in the order you like the candidates in. Bear that mind when choosing candidates. You are also on my list nowGǪ because I forgot how sensible you are
Well, sensible is a subjective term. I was walking around Fanfest dressed as a merc and carrying a Quafe Sniper rifle after all.
CPM 1 member
CEO of DUST University
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.05.24 11:59:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:From what I've been able to determine, bad players like IWS and Soraya contribute pretty much nothing. Forum warriors like Breakin Stuff are also largely clueless and would make for a terrible CPM. IWS at least is able to maintain a degree of popularity due to the regularity of how much he posts, but nothing more.
I believe that there should be a new rule that anyone with less than a 2.0 KDR and 40,000 kills should be barred from running as they clearly have a substandard grasp of how the game works, and are simply looking for acknowledgement and attention. Even when they work hard, the ideas they present can be largely toxic. Pure democracy is a bad solution to any problem, and it should always be reinforced with logical standards. People can be very stupid, after all. Then by all means your "requiments" should be considered a "bad solution" since kdr shows no correlation with knowledge of the game.
If you have no knowledge of the game, you cannot kill people while avoiding death to a great extent.
Even dead weight like Duna is knowledgeable.
As most players are bad (with yourself being a front runner) it is not exactly surprising to hear your position. Just about anyone will attempt to defend their legitimacy, even when they have none to spare.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.24 12:14:00 -
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LOL did someone really just suggest using KDR as a requirement for CPM? I mean . . . Wow. Not sure if troll
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp
Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.05.24 12:29:00 -
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A good record is not necessarily a sign of intimate knowledge, however a poor record is a definite sign of none.
Aside from Zatara I would confidently say that the CPM is largely useless.
And if I was Zatara, I'd have given up working with such individuals a long time ago.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.24 12:55:00 -
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I'd say the only quality of a good candidate is simply how invested they are, and from there you vote on whether or not your age with their feedback and would accurately represent the player base. In game statistics could portray that to a degree but never as a requirement. I wouldn't even say a CPM candidate needs to be particularly skilled at the game. Surely it would be good for some on the board to be, perhaps even most, but there are many different people who love to play this game and the elitist PC players of the bunch may be disconnected with the other less competitive audience or the long time casual pub player. I really hope someone from this crowd, who is a quality candidate, doesn't get scared away from running if they want to.
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Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.05.24 13:01:00 -
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Being invested doesn't mean knowing what you're doing.
I like baseball, but if you ask me to coach for the Yankees they probably aren't going to have a very good season.
Rattati is more invested than the previous devs, and it shows. But that doesn't stop him for stepping on landmines which could have been avoided by a more holistic individual. I've come to peace with the fact that he's the best we could ever hope for though. In terms of the CPM, matters are different. We can do better.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2015.05.24 13:35:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I promise to do my duty as a fully fledged mighty morphin power ranger.
Sgt Kirk you sir have my vote
CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10
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Posted - 2015.05.24 13:57:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:did someone really just suggest using KDR as a requirement for CPM? It was at that moment that I knew Himiko was trolling: 4/10
I'm being generous because it was creative. Bonus point for getting genuine responses.
@Ripley_Riley
"I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.24 14:23:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Being invested doesn't mean knowing what you're doing.
I like baseball, but if you ask me to coach for the Yankees they probably aren't going to have a very good season.
Rattati is more invested than the previous devs, and it shows. But that doesn't stop him for stepping on landmines which could have been avoided by a more holistic individual. I've come to peace with the fact that he's the best we could ever hope for though. In terms of the CPM, matters are different. We can do better.
Coaching the Yankees would be more equivalent to developing Dust rather than being a CPM member who is merely a representative of the community. And while I agree the game should definitely be represented by the highest level of play, Dust could not exist without the more casual banking as well and they need to need to be represented as well.
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Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
259
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Posted - 2015.05.24 15:03:00 -
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I would vote for Aero, True and the people that are at the biomassed podcast. To invest your time every Sunday and talk about Dust 514 means you still care.
Amarr Victor
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.05.24 15:15:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Being invested doesn't mean knowing what you're doing.
I like baseball, but if you ask me to coach for the Yankees they probably aren't going to have a very good season.
Rattati is more invested than the previous devs, and it shows. But that doesn't stop him for stepping on landmines which could have been avoided by a more holistic individual. I've come to peace with the fact that he's the best we could ever hope for though. In terms of the CPM, matters are different. We can do better.
Get this through your head.
The skill of playing does not equal intellectual ability to understand or know game development.
The skills aren't transferable.
A professional athlete doesn't necessarily understand kinesiology but that doesn't diminish their skill. A person whose profession centers on a proffesional undersanding of kinesiology doesn't necessarily mean they are highly physically skilled.
The CPM's job is to communicate with the community and work as a sounding board for CCP's ideas. The intlectual capacity to fulfill this obligation does not transfer over to KDR or anything else.
A redline sniper could easily have a high KDR and not be qualified for CPM. Duna is not qualified as CPM and has no sense of balance or what is best for the game as a whole.
The same goes for FotM chasers.
What is needed are people who are creative enough to theory craft and reasonable enough to prevent any possible bias from having too much influence in their input.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.24 16:17:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:[
What is needed are people who are creative enough to theory craft and reasonable enough to prevent any possible bias from having too much influence in their input.
... and sensible enough to actually listen to the community they were elected to represent.
We need people who can further dialogue, solicit feedback and help solve problems; people like Cross and Pokey. The last thing we need in a Community Representative are know-it-all ego-trips peddling personal agendas and browbeating anyone who dare disagree.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9
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Posted - 2015.05.24 17:17:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:
But amongst all your post that put me in negative light ...
My posts put you in a negative light? These are your posts. Have you taken a journalist Class because you have a sure knack for manipulating perspectives. Just be honest.
I'm being honest. Clearly, you believe that the vast majority of us are idiots; you've said so dozens of times. I completely disagree with you on this point, but that's completely beside the point. Now it's your turn to be honest:
In your best estimation ...
1. How could Rattati possibly balance a game which is being played by a bunch of idiots who are doing it wrong?
2. Could the idiots who are doing it wrong ever participate meaningfully in discussions on balance or mechanics?
3. Is it the primary function CPM to engage and represent the community or is it to help the community help itself?
If elected to CPM ...
4. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to involve us, the idiot community, in problem solving?
5. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to encourage dialogue and debate among we idiots?
6. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to solicit, listen to, and/or value our idiot feedback?
"90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots." - Sgt Kirk
"This community is so great" - Sgt Kirk (for CPM2)
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2015.05.24 18:50:00 -
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Isa Lucifer wrote:I would vote for Aero, True and the people that are at the biomassed podcast. To invest your time every Sunday and talk about Dust 514 means you still care.
Even if we go horribly off topic sometimes? 
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
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Posted - 2015.05.24 19:16:00 -
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@ himiko, who were the two cpm who played and "understood" the game the most?
Judge and zatara. Where are they now?
Most people, myself included, put these two on their ballot simply because of their game experience. They had a lot more in-game experience than most likely the rest of the candidates combined (sorry guys.) Turns out, they have been the worst two CPM members to date (barring maybe jenza and Kane, who ironically had the most game experience from CPM 0.)
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.24 19:39:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:
But amongst all your post that put me in negative light ...
My posts put you in a negative light? These are your posts. Have you taken a journalist Class because you have a sure knack for manipulating perspectives. Just be honest. I'm being honest. Clearly, you believe that the vast majority of us are idiots; you've said so dozens of times. I completely disagree with you on this point, but that's completely beside the point. Now it's your turn to be honest: In your best estimation ... 1. How could Rattati possibly balance a game which is being played by a bunch of idiots who are doing it wrong? 2. Could the idiots who are doing it wrong ever participate meaningfully in discussions on balance or mechanics? 3. Is it the primary function CPM to engage and represent the community or is it to help the community help itself? If elected to CPM ... 4. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to involve us, the idiot community, in problem solving? 5. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to encourage dialogue and debate among we idiots? 6. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to solicit, listen to, and/or value our idiot feedback?
One of the things that annoyed me most was lack of involvement from the CPM. While I understand a lot, A LOT. Of things were held under NDA. There was still much to be desired as far as communication goes. Even if its not about specific dust matters, simply interacting with us would have been a great morale booster.
Now, its pretty obvious I've been known to get ornery at times and literally everytime I lash out beck when I didn't keep myself in check. I dont think the vast majority are idiots contrary to my past angry spoutings but like I've said. I've been working on that and they've been getting fewer and lesser in frequency as well as severity.
If i honestly thought that deep down to the core I wouldn't go to the forums for feedback and even take any of it seriously. I wouldn't have scrapped ideas entirely based on forum feedback if I legitimately thought everybody is an idiot.
I've cooled down drastically in the past recent months which I recognized my hot temperament would be one of the major things I needed to work to to make myself appropriate for CPM.
Hell, that's Aeon Amadi would need to work on in order to be a great CPM and I think of him higher than I, we just both happen to be two extremely passionate lovers of this game that just get extremely heated when we become peeved.
But yeah, all in all. I'd be the most communicative and vocal CPM this game has ever seen. Even I I'm wrapped up in NDA I wont leave you guys alone for weeks at a time without so much of a "hows it going"
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.24 20:01:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:
But yeah, all in all. I'd be the most communicative and vocal CPM this game has ever seen. Even I I'm wrapped up in NDA I wont leave you guys alone for weeks at a time without so much of a "hows it going"
Actually we have at least one (usually 2-3) CPM on ever week on Biomassed that give a weekly CPM update about what's been going on. Sometimes its a slow week or NDA bound, but they're getting the word out there on a consistent and regular basis.
I think what Adipem is getting at is that while it's great to be passionate about the game, and almost necessary to be a good representative of the community, it's doesn't excuse brash emotionally driven behavior or remarks. I mean I would argue that people like Cross Atu are the paradigm of a good CPM, and I can assure you his is passionate to an unhealthy degree. However he is also insanely level headed and extremely rational and not prone to emotional outbursts or calling people idiots.
Don't get me wrong, no one is perfect and we all have our moments, but all too often people let their emotions get the better of them on a fairly consistent basis. And at least in my opinion, I'm extremely reluctant to vote for people who can't keep their rationality over their intense emotions.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
www.biomassed.net
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe.
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.25 00:18:00 -
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Well y'know, I'm running this year. I'll have a full platform thread when we see a proper election announcement, but the sneak peak is that the holding of timely and consistent CPM elections is something I want to see solidified going into the future. CPM0 fought hard for way too long to get the first elections. We're now seeing inconsistency, delays, and maybe even a lack of priority on the subject from the current CPM.
If the CPM's supposed to be democratic, elections should be held on time every time. No exceptions.
Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi
Have a pony
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
RUST415
854
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Posted - 2015.05.25 00:33:00 -
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Someone who is largely unbiased and doesn't have an agenda of any type to push. Also brains are a must. I don't care how rational a person you are if you aren't smart enough to smell other people's bs.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.25 01:27:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:Well y'know, I'm running this year. I'll have a full platform thread when we see a proper election announcement, but the sneak peak is that the holding of timely and consistent CPM elections is something I want to see solidified going into the future. CPM0 fought hard for way too long to get the first elections. We're now seeing inconsistency, delays, and maybe even a lack of priority on the subject from the current CPM.
If the CPM's supposed to be democratic, elections should be held on time every time. No exceptions.
I think the whitepaper in general needs to be updated with more solid rules for elections as well as contingencies in case delays MUST happen, it needs to outline how the delays work so there is a clear expectation on when things will happen.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
www.biomassed.net
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.05.25 01:30:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Would support without second thought:
True Adamance
You clazy boi!
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2015.05.25 02:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Would support without second thought:
True Adamance
You clazy boi!
True's CPM2 Platform:
Amarr HAVs
That is all.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
www.biomassed.net
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