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Posted - 2015.05.22 22:37:00 -
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Would support without second thought: Cross Atu Pokey Dravon
Jolly Roger
Haerr Kevall Longstride
Fox Gaden IWS True Adamance Aero Yassavi Ripley Riley
Would strongly oppose: Zatara Judge
Would likely oppose: Aeon Amadi Cat Merc Sgt Kirk
Undecided: Soraya Xel Sir Man Boy
* Strikethroughs do not intent to run (at present)
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Posted - 2015.05.23 14:07:00 -
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@ Aero, Kirk and FW Lovers - This post blew my mind :-)
MINA Longstrike wrote:Been playing a little mechwarrior online (as I finally have a working computer again)... Holy crap their faction warfare is everything I wish dust fw would be.
So upon clicking 'faction warfare' for the first time you're given a selection of the ~10 factions available, after selecting one you can sign up for a 7day, 14day, 28day or permanent contract (it's possible to break all of these, even the permanent one). The 7day gives +0% extra loyalty points, the 14day is IIRC +20% loyalty, the 28 +30%, and the permanent +50%. From there you're given a selection of planets (along with a list of attackers and defenders fighting for / queuing in the same planet). When you choose a planet you can then choose to attack it either solo, or with your squad (4ppl) or any number up to a 12man deployment which puts you into a lobby up until there's a full group. Once a full group of attackers is formed the opposition is given a "X PLANET IS UNDER ATTACK JOIN TO DEFEND IT!" warning and 10 mins to assemble a group.
From there it goes to a 'protect the area' style match, where the defenders can win by timing the match out or killing all their attackers (each players gets a drop deck of 4 mechs ranging from 160t to 240t total... essentially it's like being given a set number of clones per individual player, let's say 16 clones once you're out you cant spawn in anymore). The attackers win by destroying what amounts to the 'MCC' of the area.
If the attackers win, the next battle on the district is a 'counter attack', where the objective is basically an ambush style match - kill more of your opponents than they kill of you.
After a certain amount of time passes (there's certain allowed attack / defense / cease fire phases that cycle every hour or so) if the attackers hold more districts on a planet, they flip it to their control. If the defenders hold more, they retain control of it. If you control a planet, you can attack the planets adjacent to it.
It's such an awesome system and I think with some work, something resembling it could be implemented in dust.
It's also possible to form up for 'defense' matches too, which gives a ping to people going 'come attack this place' and just being signed up to a faction causes you to recieve constant pings about what planets need defenders / attackers. It also tosses you into a 'militia' channel where you can organize things (for example we had ~250 people attacking/defending a single planet earlier). Oh and I forgot to mention - If you go to attack a place and an enemy team doesn't form up to counter you within 10 minutes, you get deployed without any opposition, allowing you to rapidly take territory if there's no opposition.
Your LP/isk (equivalent) gains have a set payout for winning a match, and an additional payout based on your in-match performance.
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- Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Posted - 2015.05.23 14:39:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote: - I've got no problem acknowledging that I'm wrong or have been wrong regardless of what some would like to think.
Kirk Alert! Your true colors are showing already. Who cares what the rabble think, right?
Sgt Kirk wrote:90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots ^ Community Representative material? Click here for 5 pages of you calling us idiots.
Your good friend Zatara successfully ran a "I'm humble now!" campaign. He's got an ego like you've got a temper, and once elected, it immediately showed. People will say whatever it takes to get a vote. You say you're open-minded now. That you listen to people. That you're working on your hot temper. I hope you are. And if you get elected, I really hope you are.
But after Zatara, I'm not inclined to believe you (you and he are good friends, right?). I'm more inclined to believe that you'll be exactly who you've always been, and that someone is plain to see in your post history.
TL;DR: I think you have good ideas, Kirk, but I think you'd be a terrible community representative.
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Posted - 2015.05.23 16:04:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote: But amongst all your post that put me in negative light I guarantee you there are four times as many post that are in a good favor
My posts put you in a negative light? These are your posts. For 3 years you call us idiots, and all of a sudden you're ready to listen to what we have say? Cross Atu listens to what we have to say; he's arguably the best community representative we've ever had. Find for me the posts where Cross can be found calling other players "idiots".
Cross's post history perfectly mirrors his performance as CPM. If that pattern held true for you, what might we expect?
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Posted - 2015.05.23 17:45:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:G Clone wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:
- Iron Wolf Saber - Dude typically fails at communicating
Trying to get him elected, or get him hired by CCP? Haha fair point. There is a fine art to understanding IWSaberese. Even I'm not fluent in it, and I talk with him fairly frequently on Biomassed. No doubt that he's there to communicate....just sometimes needs a translator to get the job done. I've translated many an IWS post in my days hereGǪ This is why I consistently believe him to be a good CPM If you can understand IWS, it's easier to see what he is good at what he does. Separate note. SMB may be somewhat introverted, but what is brought to the table matters. Quiet folks often have great contributions, sadly people don't always have the opportunity to recognize these contributions. I hope that existing people make SMB contributions known. I'd really like to know more about Sir Man Boy's contributions to CPM1. His community interaction has been sparse, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Posted - 2015.05.24 16:17:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:[ What is needed are people who are creative enough to theory craft and reasonable enough to prevent any possible bias from having too much influence in their input.
... and sensible enough to actually listen to the community they were elected to represent.
We need people who can further dialogue, solicit feedback and help solve problems; people like Cross and Pokey. The last thing we need in a Community Representative are know-it-all ego-trips peddling personal agendas and browbeating anyone who dare disagree.
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Posted - 2015.05.24 17:17:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote: But amongst all your post that put me in negative light ...
My posts put you in a negative light? These are your posts. Have you taken a journalist Class because you have a sure knack for manipulating perspectives. Just be honest. I'm being honest. Clearly, you believe that the vast majority of us are idiots; you've said so dozens of times. I completely disagree with you on this point, but that's completely beside the point. Now it's your turn to be honest:
In your best estimation ... 1. How could Rattati possibly balance a game which is being played by a bunch of idiots who are doing it wrong? 2. Could the idiots who are doing it wrong ever participate meaningfully in discussions on balance or mechanics? 3. Is it the primary function CPM to engage and represent the community or is it to help the community help itself?
If elected to CPM ... 4. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to involve us, the idiot community, in problem solving? 5. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to encourage dialogue and debate among we idiots? 6. On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would you be to solicit, listen to, and/or value our idiot feedback?
"90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots." - Sgt Kirk
"This community is so great" - Sgt Kirk (for CPM2)
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Posted - 2015.05.26 14:48:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:... this community is so great Sgt Kirk wrote:90% of this community are slack-jawed idiots ^ Community Representative material? Click here for 5 more pages of you calling us idiots. Your good friend Zatara successfully ran a "I'm humble now!" campaign. He's got an ego like you've got a temper, and once elected, it showed. People will say whatever it takes to get a vote. You say you're open-minded now. That you listen to people. That you're working on your hot temper. I hope you are. And if you get elected, I really hope you are. But after Zatara, I'm not inclined to believe you. I'm more inclined to believe that you'll be exactly who you've always been, and that someone is plain to see in your post history. TL;DR: I think you have good ideas, Kirk, but I think you'd be a terrible community representative. See, this is my issue with you. You never intended to vote for the dude and you have absolutely no intentions of changing your views about that - you don't care what he stands for, who he is, or what he's done for the community; the only thing you care about is that he doesn't constantly agree with your - often ****** - viewpoints and buy into your constant use of Ad Hominem. Point in case, you antagonize the guy about how open-minded he is and then for the next half-dozen posts go on your own little rant about why he's not "community representative material" - which is laughable because you act like your idea of what -is- and -is not- community rep material is somehow the standard; well, allow me to enlighten you on something, buddy, it isn't. You are not that important, you are not the center of the universe, and while your handful of friends in-game might be nodding and agreeing with your one-sided view of things, there are a lot of us out there that could care less about what you think up until you start pulling this "hey everyone look at what I think isn't CPM material" act -that you always do-. Because, honest to god, even if the dude -DID- work on his temper, hell even if -I- worked on -MY- temper (pro-tip, I'm not going to) you still wouldn't vote for either of us because it just doesn't pander what -YOU- want out of the game, no matter how conceited or egocentric it actually is. The personality isn't a factor, you're just using that as a justification for an argument so you don't come out and just admit that you don't like either of us because we disagree with you. You scrape for any little flaw in the personality to use against them BECAUSE IT'S YOUR SPECIALTY. If you didn't have Ad Hominem on your side, none of your arguments would hold -ANY- weight at all because you just can't argue the points brought up. And until you actually get around to realizing that, you can't honestly expect anyone to respect you because you don't have show enough respect as to not just blindly contradict someone in some ham-fisted attempt to make them look bad and then hilariously finish with a half-hearted, insincere compliment like "I think you have good ideas" sandwiched in between (who'd have guessed) even more contradictory bullshit. Just leave dude. Just leave the community and stop trying because those who actually matter will never buy into your tactics. I'm not running for office, Aeon.
If I were, I would expect my history of bias to be called into question, be it perceived or factual. I would expect my viewpoints and agendas, both past and present, to be inquired about and challenged. I would expect that any "bad behavior" in my past fit to be dug up and offered as a potential indicator for future behavior. I would expect to be thoroughly vetted.
And if I were running for a position as a Community Representative, I would absolutely expect to be called out if I had ever referred to the Community as "idiots".
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:07:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm not running for office, Aeon. If I were, I would expect my history of bias to be called into question, be it perceived or factual. I would expect my viewpoints and agendas, both past and present, to be inquired about and challenged. I would expect that any "bad behavior" in my past (fits, name-calling, irrational posting, etc) to be dug up and offered as a potential indicator for future behavior. I would expect to be thoroughly vetted. And if I were running for a position as a Community Representative, I would absolutely expect to be called out if I had ever referred to the Community as "idiots". Think before you post and you won't be called an idiot. Being a 'Representative' doesn't automatically assume you to be nice or hold people's hands and the community is not entitled niceness from a representative. They're there to get a job done, not to play the politician. I'd actually be -MORE- worried about a candidate that does play nice with everyone because they then cannot be objective. I want a candidate that is passionate and stands up for their beliefs with drive, stubborn drive if necessary. Feel free to vote for 'everyone's friend' if you want. We had that already and it didn't change anything.
Representative absolutely means dealing with people, and personalities matter when it comes to dealing with people. We need representatives who can get the community involved while remaining focused on the issues. Candidates with histories of throwing tantrums, name-calling, browbeating, etc should be called out for their behavior as these behaviors stand in direct conflict with what we need in representatives.
You, Appia, Sgt Kirk, me ... we are cut from the same cloth. We're as likely to attack the person as we are the issue. We would all make for bad Community Representatives.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:09:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: Doesn't have anything to do with what he did for the community and the game at large. Watch the video, learn something. Stop having an emotional reaction to a logical situation.
LMAO
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:22:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm not running for office, Aeon. If I were, I would expect my history of bias to be called into question, be it perceived or factual. I would expect my viewpoints and agendas, both past and present, to be inquired about and challenged. I would expect that any "bad behavior" in my past (fits, name-calling, irrational posting, etc) to be dug up and offered as a potential indicator for future behavior. I would expect to be thoroughly vetted. And if I were running for a position as a Community Representative, I would absolutely expect to be called out if I had ever referred to the Community as "idiots". Think before you post and you won't be called an idiot. Being a 'Representative' doesn't automatically assume you to be nice or hold people's hands and the community is not entitled niceness from a representative. They're there to get a job done, not to play the politician. I'd actually be -MORE- worried about a candidate that does play nice with everyone because they then cannot be objective. I want a candidate that is passionate and stands up for their beliefs with drive, stubborn drive if necessary. Feel free to vote for 'everyone's friend' if you want. We had that already and it didn't change anything. Representative absolutely means dealing with people, and personalities matter when it comes to dealing with people. We need representatives who can get the community involved while remaining focused on the issues. Candidates with histories of throwing tantrums, name-calling, browbeating, etc should be called out for their behavior as these behaviors stand in direct conflict with what we need in representatives. You, Appia, Sgt Kirk, me ... we are cut from the same cloth. We're as likely to attack the person as we are the issue. We would all make for bad Community Representatives. Hahaha, comparing me to Appia - that in itself is hilarious. No. A candidate can -absolutely- get the community involved in something while still being antagonistic toward them (see Jita riots); you wouldn't even know who I was if I -WASN'T- antagonistic toward you because infamy has a way of settling in with people a hell of a lot more than playing Barney. We're not here to love each other, we're here to play the game (which I'll remind is largely brutal in it's theme as it is) and if forum behavior stop you from voting someone in that actually does deserve it, based on their merit, you deserve an awful experience because your vote was wasted. Remember that the representatives -ARE THERE TO FIX THE GAME-, not your behavior, their behavior, or whether or not you like them. This game comes first, not your personal feelings. If you can't handle it, don't talk to the person - hide their posts, block them on Dust 514, and run yourself. Play nice with everyone, see how far it gets you. A person can absolutely be antagonistic and still remain on point with the community's interests and of course, the community's interests are often not -YOUR- interests. Even still, a Representative has to know when the community is being ******** and know how to say no. The community is not always right, much in the same way the customer is not always right. In the end the only thing that matters is what goes on in that meeting room with CCP, and what goes on in that Skype channel. They don't have to be friendly - they have to be objective.
Rattati and Team are here to fix the game; CPM are here to function as liaison between us and them. Some of us have good ideas but bad interpersonal skills and/or problems with temper, ego, etc. Those people make for sub-optimal liaisons, and those people would serve the community far better as subject matter experts than CPMs.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:37:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:
Rattati and Team are here to fix the game; CPM are here to function as liaison between us and them. Some of us have good ideas but bad interpersonal skills and/or problems with temper, ego, etc. Those people make for sub-optimal liaisons, and those people would serve the community far better as subject matter experts than CPMs.
You got this -ALL- wrong. If CCP is here to fix the game and the CPM doesn't call them out on their BS then we'll just have another incident with Uprising 1.0 - 1.8. If we wanted a repeat of Early Uprising, we'd get there fastest by putting you, Sgt Kirk and rest of the Team Gallente in charge.
Go Gallente MedFrames! Go Gallente Fine Rifles!
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:48:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: ...because you can't improve your argument.
What would you like me to prove? That people like Cross and Pokey are better equipped to represent the Community than tantrum throwers like you, Sgt Kirk and Appia? Does that really need to be proven?
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:56:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: ...because you can't improve your argument.
What would you like me to prove? That people like Cross and Pokey are better equipped to represent the Community than tantrum throwers like you, Sgt Kirk and Appia? Does that really need to be proven? Hahaha, you should see Pokey on Skype. Another classic example of forum behavior =/= the actual person. I've interacted with Pokey a 'bit. If he's crazy, he's better at hiding it than some. Points for willpower. Points for intellect.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:05:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i would like to see Aeon Amadi get on just because he is so bat sh*t crazy i think it will be at least entertaining to watch what happens...
Aeon Amadi wrote:I might run just to spite you, Adipem. Not like I have anything to lose by running.
Be even more hilarious if I win. I hope you run, and I hope you win. I might even vote for you myself ... in secret, of course.
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