In response to Match making and game modes.
How do you stop people from grossly exaggerating or straight up lying?

No one can honestly say the MM is not improved. Unless you are q syncing 16 players you must have had great matches on a daily bases.
I play close to 2-3 hours daily. I at least see 3 games that are crazy close; winning or losing by 5 ticks. There are also the acquisitions maps that have a turn around win during the 3rd or later round.

The issue is players...You look at the enemy...see they are stacked...do not think your team can win so you play cheap or leave. Now Have 5 out of the 16 doing what you just did and that's why MM can feel off.

Why do you guys think MM can predict when you want to be a *****.

AT LEAST once a day my squad whether it is 3 or 6 deep win a match that at the start looked hopeless. We may have lost 10 proto suits but we won and had FUN doing it.

DAMN players need to remember isk has very little real world value...it is FUN money so have fun and spend it.

(not to mention CCP literally gives us free officer items on the every other daily)
(playing with a bunch of scrooge miser McDucks)

You must be playing different matches with different people than I am. I'm a solo player and the matchmaking change completely screwed me. Acquisition is the only game mode I play now.

There is one documented and verified complaint, from a player that I can't remember who was. Basically a weird case of a 4 match unluck streak. Every other case, where I have checked, have been exaggerations like:

"I have had nothing but 5/12 matches all day", that have in fact been all 14v14+, and one battle where a 6 man squad dropped early and the player lost.

It is not worse or better to run solo before or after, and the facts are that battles overall are far more equal than before, at the cost of a little increased waiting time. If you ever go above 5 minutes waiting for pubs, you should either exit and try again, or sign up for more modes. Selecting a single mode, at low pcu times, may cause increased waiting.

There is one documented and verified complaint, from a player that I can't remember who was. Basically a weird case of a 4 match unluck streak. Every other case, where I have checked, have been exaggerations like:

"I have had nothing but 5/12 matches all day", that have in fact been all 14v14+, and one battle where a 6 man squad dropped early and the player lost.

It is not worse or better to run solo before or after, and the facts are that battles overall are far more equal than before, at the cost of a little increased waiting time. If you ever go above 5 minutes waiting for pubs, you should either exit and try again, or sign up for more modes. Selecting a single mode, at low pcu times, may cause increased waiting.

If you ever go above 5 minutes waiting for pubs, you should either exit and try again...

It's definitely better, but two things I think will help even more.

1.) As suggested before, remove Skirmish from pubs. Consolidate the player base for even better balance and faster search times.

2.) Reduce Bush squad cap to 4. Keep the big full squads out of bush and into the bigger game modes. This helps all game types.

There is one documented and verified complaint, ... the facts are that battles overall are far more equal than before, ....

There is one documented and verified complaint, from a player that I can't remember who was. Basically a weird case of a 4 match unluck streak. Every other case, where I have checked, have been exaggerations like:

"I have had nothing but 5/12 matches all day", that have in fact been all 14v14+, and one battle where a 6 man squad dropped early and the player lost.

It is not worse or better to run solo before or after, and the facts are that battles overall are far more equal than before, at the cost of a little increased waiting time. If you ever go above 5 minutes waiting for pubs, you should either exit and try again, or sign up for more modes. Selecting a single mode, at low pcu times, may cause increased waiting.

why does so many want skirmish removed from pubs?

to get more into FW?

because if they like to only play skirmish , and you remove it..wouldn't they go there.. and not fill in the spots for ambush,dom, aquisition?

Just trying to understand this. Is this due to a bug? It seems like the system should be designed to auto-refresh itself server side without the user even knowing it's happening?

Also, why is it that I'll wait 3 minutes to get into a match, only to have many players missing (more than 6 on my team--so I can assume it's not like it was full and then a squad left to create the opening) and the match be well underway? Why didn't it just put me into that match immediately if there were open slots to fill? Is it trying to look for a better Mu fit first?

I'm not trying to bash the matchmaker, overall it is an improvement, but Scotty is doing things that really make me scratch my head. I'm just trying to understand the mechanics better.

...Regarding your comment about not filling empty spots: there were huge complaints from players (including myself) who joined matches which were effectivly over (last ticks on MCC / only a few clones left). With the new matchmaking empty spots will not be filled (after a time) for this exact reason. If they compensate for people leaving, those complaints will rise again. It's a chicken and egg thing...

My suspicion is that "leaving matches" was as common before as now, but then the matches were constantly refilled until the end. So this is not a new problem, it's just much more visible after the MM update.

It does add me to the match though. It just waits several minutes to do it, that's what I don't get.

Let's say a match starts and it's 10 v 8 and it's been going for a few minutes. Now I queue up and it makes me wait another 3 minutes in the queue before adding me to the match. Why am I waiting at all if there is an existing match with available slots? You'd think Scotty would see the empty slots and stick me in immediately once I queue up right?

In response to Match making and game modes.
How do you stop people from grossly exaggerating or straight up lying?

No one can honestly say the MM is not improved. Unless you are q syncing 16 players you must have had great matches on a daily bases.
I play close to 2-3 hours daily. I at least see 3 games that are crazy close; winning or losing by 5 ticks. There are also the acquisitions maps that have a turn around win during the 3rd or later round.

The issue is players...You look at the enemy...see they are stacked...do not think your team can win so you play cheap or leave. Now Have 5 out of the 16 doing what you just did and that's why MM can feel off.

Why do you guys think MM can predict when you want to be a *****.

AT LEAST once a day my squad whether it is 3 or 6 deep win a match that at the start looked hopeless. We may have lost 10 proto suits but we won and had FUN doing it.

DAMN players need to remember isk has very little real world value...it is FUN money so have fun and spend it.

(not to mention CCP literally gives us free officer items on the every other daily)
(playing with a bunch of scrooge miser McDucks)

But can you be sure it started with 10 vs 8?
Perhaps it started with 16 vs 16 (leaving no room at all), or 15 vs 14 but your Mu was too high to fit either side?

Then after a few minutes people start to leave reducing the team to 10 vs 8, making room for you.

Sadly I have seen cases where (probably) two full q-synced squads leave battle well into the match, leaving the rest of the game 16 vs 3. Even if the Matchmaker tries to fill up again, the new players will also leave once they see they are totally outnumbered.

I think players leaving games are the biggest mennace we have right now in Dust. They even blame the Matchmaker without (apparently) realising that by leaving early they themselfs screws up the matchmaking process.

A lot of players are loving the new matchmaking system, but my initial experiences were quite bad. Being a vet, and having a period of time where I played during off-peak hours probably contributed to the system generating much worse games for me then most players were experiencing. However, since matches are getting better I'm glad I didn't rush my judgement on it.

my video on this topic should up on youtube soon, http://youtu.be/GoQKn5Cr5NY

There is one documented and verified complaint, from a player that I can't remember who was. Basically a weird case of a 4 match unluck streak. Every other case, where I have checked, have been exaggerations like:

"I have had nothing but 5/12 matches all day", that have in fact been all 14v14+, and one battle where a 6 man squad dropped early and the player lost.

It is not worse or better to run solo before or after, and the facts are that battles overall are far more equal than before, at the cost of a little increased waiting time. If you ever go above 5 minutes waiting for pubs, you should either exit and try again, or sign up for more modes. Selecting a single mode, at low pcu times, may cause increased waiting.