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Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4258	Posted - 2015.04.13 14:33:00 - [1] - Quote The changes which allow Myofibril Stimulants to increase jump height have been in the game for a bit now so it is time for some community feedback and review. The following information would be of great use to the CPM in providing further input on the matter to CCP. Please use the following format for posts and focus posts on your own in game experience NOT evaluation of the posts of others. There may be a thread in future focused on debating whether or not to change the Myofibril Stimulant, but that is not this thread so please help me keep the work here useful by staying focused on the topic and format. Thanks, Cross Template; Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. Those who, for whatever reason, do not wish to reply in line here may e-mail me their completed template. For those who do not have it my contact information can be located here. See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1459	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:35:00 - [2] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Public Skirmishes. Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Gallente Commando and Minmatar Assault. Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes. - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes; Gallente Commando with one ADV Myofib. - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches Yes; Gallente Commando with one ADV Myofib. How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience Improved it: Commandos tend to suffer from a lack of mobility, so being able to jump over low on at a has been a big boon. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective Less. The amount that multiple Myofib mods can grant is insane, and is incredibly frustrating at times. Similarly, some of the locations that people complained about being accessible only by dropships are entirely accessible by stacked Myofibs, but that doesn't mean they are any less irritating positions. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here Yes, they need proper stacking penalties applied. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here Decreased effect; stacking penalties need to be applied - the change was made to allow additional mobility by increasing jump height, so things like tiny lips didn't completely shaft sentinels for example. - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. Stacking penalties would go a long way to reducing the upper limit of jump heights. What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. Halla Murr Thanks for listening to us Cross. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2939	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:47:00 - [3] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - Public Top role(s) used since the change -Amarr Assault/Logistics (I can run scouts too) Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - no - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - no How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - It has opened up new areas of the map (both good and bad). It has made it more easy to counter me when I use the LR from high ground. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - Yes and no. It has really annihilated the illusion that we're clones wearing very heavy suits. It makes combat feel too "floaty." It has opened up the maps and created new counters to tactics. Enhancing verticality is a good thing, but I think there are better was to approach this long term. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - They need to implement stacking penalties and then I'd like to re-evaluate after that. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - Decreased - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - The first step would be to add stacking penalties and see how that goes. My preferred long-term fix would be to work on a new movement system based around a "Mass" stat. Moment speed, strafe speed, sprint speed, rate of stamina use, inertia for movement and strafing, and jump height would all be derived from this based on realistic newtonian physics. Myofibrils would increase a person's jump height, but it would still be largely governed by the mass of the suit. People wouldn't float in the air as long. If you make someone twice as strong in their legs, I'm pretty sure you don't actually jump twice as high. Ultimately I'd like to see the verticality issue addressed in more "realistic" ways like jetpacks and grappling pins/magnetic boots with hard counters (e.g. you can lock someone using a jetpack with swarms, magnetic boots bloom your signature and attract A/V grenades). These ideas would almost certainly have to wait for an x86 port. Best PvE idea ever!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8049	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:56:00 - [4] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Pubs or facwar for amarr Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Sentinel, assault Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice No - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice No - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches No How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience It makes it easier to kill scouts for me. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective I feel it's been mostly a nonfactor Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here I don't care either way - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here Again, I don't care. - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. I would like more people to use them while atracking my assault HMG fits. They're convenient for insuring an easily trackable kill trajectory Instead of playing strafe strafe revolution. What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. Breakin Stuff AV
Ku Shala UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE 1359	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:06:00 - [5] - Quote Primary play mode(s) domination/skirmish Top role(s) amarr and caldari logistics and assault Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? -Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? -No How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? -can move more efficiently and tactically with uplinks on my caldari logi suit, MD /PLC jumpers were annoying initially but have counters and have sacrifice to achieve their role Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? -brings more options to the sandbox, which could also be interpreted as more enjoyable Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? -as risk vs reward goes I find them balanced on my caldari logi to be able to jump high I lose most my hp/regen and if I miss my jump mark often self damage - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? working as is What is the name of your main? - Ku Shala *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist x5)* Caldari Loyalist 22 230 780 sp in drop suit upgrades
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4364	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:40:00 - [6] - Quote Primary play mode(s) Pubs mostly dom and min FW when is up, PC not so often Top role(s) used since the change PLC min ass and Laser rifle amarr ass Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? Yes Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? Yes Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? Yes How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? Well, i didn't change my old punching fit, i run 3 myo, i think that 3 are fine because let you jump over big crates and create some very useful shortcuts. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? Yes, some maps have gained layers of complexity which is good imo. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? I think that allow only 3 myos would be fine, i've never tried with 2, but with 3 i jump over big crates in trainyard and i think it's fine, with 4 it's already like flying, a bit too much imo. What is the name of your main? < This In un mIx letale tra camper russo e lagger giapponese
Bri Bub Eternal Beings 183	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:05:00 - [7] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Mainly Skirmish, also Domination and some Factional when queuing is reasonable; seeing MyFibs more and more in PC but haven't incorporated into my PC playstyle yet Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in MinAssault; GalScout Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice YES - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice YES - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches YES, currently only on my MinAssault How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience Jump over walls (surprise attack- wheee!); can now scale buildings that were previously only accessible to derpships; new uplink placement previously unavailable; verticality and no longer constrained to prior footpaths Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective YES YES YES; the old redundant maps have new life in them, they are very different now with the increased verticality Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here I understand some of the sentiment against MyFibs- there should be stacking penalites - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here Decreased- stacking penalties - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. Stacking penalties is one approach but I would like to see jumping ability separated from MyFibs- I originally skilled into Hand to Hand, pre-jumping being added, for the increased punching power (I stack four MyFibs on my MinAssault, currently only use them on this fitting); most MyFib users seem to use them strictly for jumping with melee a distant afterthought; I would like jumping to be augmented by a different module (equipment- jump pack?) and leave MyFibs only for melee- i.e. I still want to stack MyFIbs to punch/kick like a mule but insane jumping comes with the package; I wouldn't want melee augmentation decreased in the same manner jumping should be decreased I would also like for their to be a mechanic to neutralize the jump if so desired, e.g. press and hold X to halt the jump, so you aren't constantly jumping at the same predictable arc or when you don't need a 15m jump when 5m will be sufficient to reach the top of a given box What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. Bri Bub, my one and only character Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 2391	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:23:00 - [8] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Skirmish Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Minmatar assault / scout Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches Yes How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience Yes, it has made playing fun again, allows me to use mobility over tanking and has opened up a faster paced gameplay aspect. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective Yes Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here They are fine. Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Kierkegaard Soren Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 747	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:37:00 - [9] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - skirmish and domination, public and factional. Top role(s) used since the change - AV commando. Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - Yes. - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - Yes. Minmatar commando. Very useful. - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - No, but I attribute that to the slot limitations of my suit forcing me to choose HP mods over utility. How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - I'm a heavy, so it's been pretty useful as and when I can fit them. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - pertaining to myrofibs alone, yes, sometimes. The greater access to map locations is excellent, but impossible to hit scouts not so much. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - See below. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? Higher effect from each module, but harsher stacking penalties. One module is barely noticeable, four makes you superhuman. What is the name of your main? - Kierkegaard Soren. QUOTE Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3369	Posted - 2015.04.13 19:13:00 - [10] - Quote Myos are absolutely awesome. I would hate to see them changed in any way as currently they really open up a lot of new paths, new routes and new places on those old maps we have until now kinda gotten down to a T. I do understand that there may be balancing concerns (even though I would say not personally, full myo stacking means little to no tank / damage mods) however I would concede that we maybe should make myo jumping cost a little more stamina. I also believe that myos should reduce the stamina it takes to melee hit someone, as running up to someone only to try your best to hit a moving target with melee with the random hit detection, only to run out of stamina just as you are about to connect.... yea that sucks. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8713	Posted - 2015.04.13 19:41:00 - [11] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - Ambush Top role(s) used since the change - Scout, Assault (80/20) Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - Yes Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - Yes Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - No How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - Ups - More playground. More paths. More variety. More options. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - Absolutely Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - Largely fine; slight tuning would help. If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - Decreased, but only as it relates to enforcing a stacking penalty. Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - Jumps at 4+ myofibs are over the top; if stacking penalties were working properly, they'd likely be perfect. What is the name of your main? - Shotty GoBang Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9359	Posted - 2015.04.13 20:04:00 - [12] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Instructions thankfully not written by IKEA. Primary Play Mode: Skirmish Top Roles: Minja/Hacker Have I tried Myos: Simple Yes Do I use Myos consistantly: Yes, I would say in 90 to 100% of matches. How has Myos affected my gameplay: I think even having 1 on my fit increases mobility greatly, and having multiples allows for an increased number of strategic options, many of which were not available prior to the changes. Plus, it requires me to be cognizant of more possibilities of my opponents. Has it made game play more enjoyable: Yes, significantly. Do they need further tuning: Not at this point. I think they do need monitoring, and perhaps future changes to other aspects my create problems with the current Myo numbers, but I say leave them as is for the time being. Main: This character. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback. 4990	Posted - 2015.04.13 20:14:00 - [13] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - Ambush, Skirm, Dom, Planetary Conquest Top role(s) used since the change - Varies, I run whatever is needed in a match but usually a scout or logi Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches It varies. How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? Increase mobility and verticality has enabled the ability to address stagnate roof camping especially when they have overwatch over key choke points or objectives. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? Yes, very much so. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? With the give and take Myos need to be fit I think they are fine as is. I might tweak mechanically how jumping works though. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? See above. - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. I would prefer a hold X to charge a high jump to be implemented. This would incur a greater stamina cost for a max high jump and create a small timing delay between very large jumps. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2020	Posted - 2015.04.13 20:25:00 - [14] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: The changes which allow Myofibril Stimulants to increase jump height have been in the game for a bit now so it is time for some community feedback and review. The following information would be of great use to the CPM in providing further input on the matter to CCP. Please use the following format for posts and focus posts on your own in game experience NOT evaluation of the posts of others. There may be a thread in future focused on debating whether or not to change the Myofibril Stimulant, but that is not this thread so please help me keep the work here useful by staying focused on the topic and format. Thanks, Cross Template; Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. Those who, for whatever reason, do not wish to reply in line here may e-mail me their completed template. For those who do not have it my contact information can be located here. Don't nerf Myofibs- if your gonna take 3 myofibs over what 216 shields, then you deserve to jump a lot higer, or 18% damage. People don't like them because it is not their play style and they don't enjoy fighting jumpers. Why you may ask? Because what they lose in HP, they make up in mobility. It is completely fair fight. A Myofib user may have half the HP of a proper suit but it is = in effectiveness due to increased mobility. If myofibs are nerfed- It will be a sad day in Dust for all the people not on the forums that enjoy myofibs. It takes 3 myofibs on a min assault to barley clear a crate by 1 mm. No nerfs needed, people need to adapt to the fact that a new play style is here. People seem to hate new things. Stop hatin bruh. EDIT: MYOFIB = fresh new playstyle. Yes I die very fast in my myofib suits but what do I gain? I gain the ability to get my self out of sticky situations much faster. No nerf=healthy game nerf=dead game. "Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 525	Posted - 2015.04.14 01:07:00 - [15] - Quote Template; Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Gallente Assault and Scout are the two main suits I use, so a mix of front line and stealth flanking Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Gallente Assault and Scout Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches No How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience When I use my Myo Stim based suits, I either use both of my Scout high slots or all three of my Assault high slots to maximize the benefit. I like the jump height it provides but dont like that it uses all my fittings. I also don't like that its hard to actually land melee attacks so I'm only getting 1/2 the benefit. I can escape some engagements with jumping, place uplinks more effectively, flank certain positions by hopping up smaller things. Over all an improvement in thinking and strategy, don't have to rely on a dropship to get certain places. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective Yes the game is much more fun with optional jump height increase. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here Yes they need further tuning - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here I think the effects of each individual Myo Stim need to be increased. - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. At proto level, there are suits with 5 high slots, and others with 2 or 1. Stacking Myo Stims on the suits with more high slots is kind of like having only one team being able to call in vehicles. I think the jumping effect of these modules should be increased, but a harder cap should be put in place, where only 2, or even 1 Myo Stim will actually effect jump height, all of the others you might put on will merely increase melee damage. If the jump effect is limited to 1 Myo Stim, then I think it should have the total increase of 3 Myo Stims as they are now. If the effect is limited to 2 Myo Stims, I think the total increase should be that of 4 Myo Stims as they are now, which would also give roughly 1 Myo Stim the total effect of 2 Stims as they are now. I feel like the jump benefit should be roughly equal for assault and scouts, but 2/4 of the proto scout suits are not able to capitolize on the jumping as much as the other 2 scout suits nor as much as 2/4 of the assault suits. Scouts being the lightest suits, the flankers, position grabbers either by placing uplinks in good spots or destroying uplinks placed in good spots, need to be able to gain the maximum benefit from Myo Stims, which is why I would say the jump benefit should be limited to the best 2 Myo Stims equipped on the suit. Assault suits being able to jump higher than scouts, and probably even have a bit more hp and other modules as well, makes scouts weaker as a whole. Assault suits being able to jump just as high as scout suits, or at least only being able to gain as much benefit from Myo Stims as Scouts, threatens the battlefield usefulness of scouts less, while also opening up new possibilities for the Assault. Obviously Commandos havent been able to benefit much from the Myo Stims because of slot limits, and they would get a boost if they decided to go this way, Sentinals probably wont worry about it. Logistics are kind of in the same boat as Assault but already have a lot to worry about. What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. Banjo Robertson
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 769	Posted - 2015.04.14 01:18:00 - [16] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Public Doms/Skirmishes. Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Amarr Assault Overwatch (laser) Cal/Min Sent Forge Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes. - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches No. How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience Improved it: It adds a new dimension to mobility that has a drawback on the tail end (predictable landing point) making it a sidegrade and not an upgrade to more traditional movement. Also, hella funny. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective More. There are many areas where people dropshipped up and camped high ground. Now the option to use myos forces people to be more careful. There are new weird places to put uplinks but they are still destructable by a mass driver or similar AE weapon. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here I don't know. I have not been in enough situations to have a reasonable opinion. So far, however, it has not been a problem when I am completely and honestly objective with myself when killed by a Tigger scout. (because their tops are made out of rubber and their bottoms are made out of spring) - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here N/A - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. N/A What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc.
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 185	Posted - 2015.04.14 02:07:00 - [17] - Quote Good job CPM! Amarr Victor
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4271	Posted - 2015.04.14 13:01:00 - [18] - Quote Isa Lucifer wrote: Good job CPM! o7 And thanks to all who have responded so far here and via e-mail See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
ANAHEIM Darko Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 220	Posted - 2015.04.14 13:11:00 - [19] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Public contracts/FW Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in CalAssault, GalScout Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice No - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches No How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience Annoying seeing other players jump several stories to get away, or launch MD/flaylock death from above. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective Not as a result of the changes. I feel the jump height should be limited. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here Yes - stacking penalties should apply, and limit maximum jump height. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here Decreased. - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. Implement stacking penalties/decrease effect. CalAss Grunt. Former Eve Pilot. --Cellar Door
Text Grant PIanet Express Smart Deploy 411	Posted - 2015.04.14 13:59:00 - [20] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - skirmish Top role(s) used since the change - Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - Yes How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - the combination of them with splash weapons is OP Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - no Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - jumping should be an active equipment like the cloak - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - It should be increased upon changing it to an active equipment such as a cloak or decreased dramatically as it stands now.

WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars 336	Posted - 2015.04.14 14:09:00 - [21] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: The changes which allow Myofibril Stimulants to increase jump height have been in the game for a bit now so it is time for some community feedback and review. The following information would be of great use to the CPM in providing further input on the matter to CCP. Please use the following format for posts and focus posts on your own in game experience NOT evaluation of the posts of others. There may be a thread in future focused on debating whether or not to change the Myofibril Stimulant, but that is not this thread so please help me keep the work here useful by staying focused on the topic and format. Thanks, Cross Template; Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. Those who, for whatever reason, do not wish to reply in line here may e-mail me their completed template. For those who do not have it my contact information can be located here. Primary play mode: skirmish, domination (public contracts) Top Roles: swarm AV caldari, caldari scout with burst CR, minmatar/gallente assault with shotgun, amarr assault with SCR/ASCR or caldari assault with TAR Yes I have tried the Myrofibril stimulants since the change Yes I do have fittings with Myrofibril stimulants No I don't use Myrofibril stimulant (MS) fittings consistently The MS mods have affected some of my matches, they allow me to approach and retreat from objectives/enemies in previously impossible ways such as reaching a platform above a objective. It has allowed me to clear out/ kill some enemies on some roofs (using a shotgun). It allows me to place uplinks in more unexpected places that only well placed enemy grenades or jumping suits can destroy. Flux grenades have allowed me to destroy enemy uplinks in places that I could not reach because a flux grenades blast radius goes through walls and roofs, thus I sometimes don't need MS mods. MS mods need some fine tuning, I rarely use MS mods for melee purposes because it is unreliable to use melee. It is unreliable because the hit detection is very bad on enemy dropsuits, especially when assassinating targets from behind while they move away from me (enemy moves forward relative to themselves). The hit detection is bad because the image of targets is showing where they were, not where they are (minor lag), this means I need to be closer to an enemy image to have a chance at hitting where they are. All dropsuits need a change from a melee pinpoint attack to a 'melee arch attack' like nova knifes allowing me to hit enemies slightly to my left or right, thus I would not need to be 100% accurate with melee hits, this allows me to hit target images moving sideways and have a chance at hitting where they actually are if they moves sideway, the melee auto aim hits a targets image, but not where the target actually is. I do get lucky and the image and actual position of a target are synced well enough for hits to register, but that is rare for me. This leads me to ask for a melee range increase of roughly 1 - 1.5 meters (or a increase in radius if it becomes an arch attack). I believe the current melee range is 0.5 meters. I am proposing a melee range of 1.5 - 2 meters distance (or radius). The extra options MS mods give me and the fact that I have found ways of dealing with suits equipped with MS mods without using MS mods myself at that time, has made matches more enjoyable for me. This is my main character.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 993	Posted - 2015.04.14 14:45:00 - [22] - Quote Template; Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice no - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches no How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience not really, what happens is you get a bunch of dudes jumping around with plasma cannons that think this is Tribes or something. in combat its not viable or effective. it mainly just annoying as they can access areas not intended by the level designers. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective no. it actually hurts the game in terms of balancing. the levels werent designed with players being able to jump as high as they are currently Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here they need to be toned down - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here decrease effects - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. CCP did not design the levels with players jumping 40m in mind. it breaks current level design and game balance. either redesign the module, reduce its effect, or remove the effect What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc.
Vyuru Algintal Core Gallente Federation 110	Posted - 2015.04.14 15:52:00 - [23] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - Domination and Skirmish Top role(s) used since the change - Scout - hack, skirmish, annoy. But I've been running that since open Beta and is not a new role. Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - YES! :D - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - Almost all the time How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience It's been huge. I run a 3x Complex Myofibril Adv Min Scout with Uplinks. This lets me place uplinks in places people may not think to check. I can jump up on top of structures and basically run above enemy units without them knowing I am there, which opens up alot of possibilities. Simple fact is that it has breathed new life into the game and back into certain scout suits (mostly Minmatar) for me. Furthermore, Myofibrils have opened up many places that used to be "Dropship only". While there are still places that are only accessible by dropship, now I have a way to pretty reliably get up to a fortified position, destroy uplinks, and run away, or die in the process. Point is, the enemy now cannot have 1-2 Forge Gunners shooting down dropships or having to rely on an orbital strike in order to destroy uplinks. I also want to point out, that in order to reach the higher places with 3x Myofibrils, alot of times I have to jump on top of a crate, or other object, and then jump up to reach the top of the building that is fortified. I have to say again, 3x Complex Myofibril's are the PERFECT amount in order to move around the map, at least for a scout. Anything less is not really worth it unless you want to make sure your heavy can get over that curb, or your assault/logi needs a little help getting over the railing. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - Immensely more enjoyable. Myofibril's have made almost every map an awesome 3 dimensional battlefield now. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - Further tuning. I think that 3x Myofibril's is the perfect amount for balancing, performance, etc. However I think that 4x or 5x Myofibril fits offer rather excessive jump heights. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - I would like to see performance for the 4 or 5 Myofibril fits to be brought down a bit. - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. As stated before, I run a 3x Comp Myofibril Adv Min Scout fit. This allows me to get on top of large containers while reasonably sacrificing weapon damage output and Ehp by preventing the use of other modules. On watching people with 4-5 Myofibril fits, their jumping ability takes a drastic change from the 3x Myofibril fit. I would tone down 4x Myofibril fits to a jump height of roughly 3.5 Myofibrils (if that makes sense) and 5x Myofibril fits to roughly the jump height of 4x Myofibril fits. What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. My main is Vyuru
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 255	Posted - 2015.04.14 16:16:00 - [24] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - domination/skirmish in the heart of the battles Top role(s) used since the change - gal scout or racial assaults Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - yes on aim scout. I was flying but got bored of it. Not really an effective play style - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - no, only on adv fib on my gal scout - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? -nope How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - i used to kill grass hoppers in my backyard. I still do exept they are metal now. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - meh. Eh. Sort of Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - tune them down a lot. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - Decreased - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - myofibs should make you jump higher, not fly. They sometimes ruin plans and stuff. What is the name of your main? - lightning35 delta514. 48th Special Operations Force. Twitter- @48SOF
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3776	Posted - 2015.04.14 17:09:00 - [25] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - Domination Top role(s) used since the change - Rubber Assault since the change Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - Extensively. - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - Yes, extensively. How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - Yes. I finally have a reason to use my Caldari Assault. Before, it was just an inferior suit to my Caldari Scout. Scout was faster, was nearly invisible to E-war, had Cloak, had superior radar, and still could do the same thing my Assault does but better. I could fight people at range easier with the far, far superior Shield stats and speed, cloak, and e-war made flanking easier. There is no way that my Caldari Scout wasn't better than my Caldari Assault. The change gave my Assault an advantage; it could stack Myofibrils while still having a decent amount of EHP. Now, I wasn't giving up speed, cloak, and e-war for HP; I was giving up speed, cloak, and e-war but I still had HP as well as being just as maneuverable in a different way. I could flank by jumping over things, I could escape by jumping onto things, and I could provide an area for my team to spawn in safely. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - Yes. As well as it just being fun to jump and figure out how to use the map to my advantage, it finally gave me a reason to use my Prototype Caldari Assault rather than my Scout. It has me looking at the map, trying to figure out how to best utilize the terrain for my movement. It is a lot like Titanfall, in that sense; it isn't a short wall, it's something I can use to get on top of that building. For me, it is some of the most fun I have had with the game. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - Probably. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - I love the height that I can jump to. I really want that to stay. However, I would split the module so that it doesn't grant melee damage bonus. Being able to jump 10 meters and having a punch that deals 600 damage is a bit much. The maneuverability is one thing but I can pretty much instantly assassinate any suit that is not tanked with an elbow to the head. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5830	Posted - 2015.04.14 20:26:00 - [26] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Skirmish - Pub & FacWar Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Commando/HAV Pilot Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches No How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience While the effect has diminished slightly over time, I'm often engaged in situations where the enemy starts to lose the engagement and rockets into the air faster than I can track, and then rains down various kinds of explosives may it be PLC, Mass Driver, Flaylock, ect. before I can react. And while this is manageable, it makes uneven confrontations (ie 1 vs 2) less about maneuvering and skirmishing, and more about 2 people launching into the air and the 1 having little to no way to deal with it anymore. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective I feel the ability to clear small obstacles makes a lot of sense. The ability to do so is enjoyable, and should stay in the game. However I think the ability to jump over buildings with a single bound with your passive jump is stupid. Additionally, even with a loss of potential shield HP, the effect of massively high jumps is problematic in combat, especially if one side of the fight is incapable of such a maneuver. This is amplified on suits that simply lack the total slots needed to even come close to same degree of effect. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here I would like to see the Myofibrils act more as a means to transverse rough terrain by easily jumping over small obstacles (parkour in a way) but not a means to obtain massive changes in elevation (jumping on top of entire buildings) - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here Decreased - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. A general decrease in the amount of height you can gain with the myofibs. May this be through an efficiency increase of a stacking penalty, the myofibs should be used for quick maneuvering of rough terrain, not completely ignoring large obstacles What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. Pokey Dravon [email protected] "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
cris bleu Carbon 7 121	Posted - 2015.04.14 21:06:00 - [27] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: The changes which allow Myofibril Stimulants to increase jump height have been in the game for a bit now so it is time for some community feedback and review. The following information would be of great use to the CPM in providing further input on the matter to CCP. Please use the following format for posts and focus posts on your own in game experience NOT evaluation of the posts of others. There may be a thread in future focused on debating whether or not to change the Myofibril Stimulant, but that is not this thread so please help me keep the work here useful by staying focused on the topic and format. Thanks, Cross Template; Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Dom Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Logi Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice No - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches No How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience Not really Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective No. My problem is it's just a bit daft. It's immersion breaking, like wiggle-wiggle strafing. I actually wouldn't mind if it was animated better with a jet pack or something. I concede that they add some interest and variation. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here Tone them down a little - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here Decrease - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. As above What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. <<<< = main Those who, for whatever reason, do not wish to reply in line here may e-mail me their completed template. For those who do not have it my contact information can be located here.
DDx77 The Exemplars 195	Posted - 2015.04.14 21:58:00 - [28] - Quote Template; Primary play mode(s) - Skirmish, Dom, FW, Top role(s) used since the change - Gal scout, Cal scout, Cal assault, Amarr assault, Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - Yes How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - It has increased my mobility (getting to out of reach areas as well as creating shorter routes) added unique angles of attack. Allowed me to survive engagements slightly longer, resulting in more successful engagements and retreats. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - Yes, I love the addition. It was very refreshing and has added new depth and strategy Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - they are in a good place but could use a little tweaking - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - increased - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - I am in favor of either an increase in myofib or natural jumping height. I think it is unfair that heavy suits must equip this mod to get over some small obstacles. Also I have noticed it takes two complex to get to the intended "jumping on a crate" I think this should be possible at lvl5 and one complex mod. What is the name of your main? - This is my main May the Dark shine your way
korrah silain True Illuminate 19	Posted - 2015.04.14 22:21:00 - [29] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - pub skirm Top role(s) used since the change - I've been jumping around with roles and experimenting but I did put together some scout fittings for this once I learned about it and use them quite a bit Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change?-yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - as much as can be considered on a basic galscout - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - no, but only because I unlocked cal assaults and was playing heavily with them. How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - well I only have access to enhanced, so its nice to have the added jump height for accessing different places, however I see proto min logos jumping just stupidly high and raining down explosives, which is nigh impossible to counter ime Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - yes, but...well again the bunny hop sploders are kinda op...of course so are all proto stompers...heh bunny stompers. If that becomes a thing I call dibs on the term. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - yes, bunny stompers need to not be a thing...some how. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - decreased on the extreme fringe if possible while leaving the basic jump bonuses about the same would be perfect imho - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - I really don't know as I haven't looked at the numbers for the jump mechanic but maybe either a stacking penalty, or stacking penalty increase, or perhaps a sort of a...jump charge? So you hold x and begin to charge a jump, releasing causes you to jump, and the charge takes longer to reach full the higher you jump...maybe set the max equal to the maximum hang time you would get on flat ground?
Archduke Ferd1nand Nos Nothi 351	Posted - 2015.04.14 22:46:00 - [30] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time Planetary Conquest, Minmitar/Gallente FW(Occasional Q-Syncs of Amarr with corpmates), Pub Skirmish with occasional Domination Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in Slayer Minmitar Assault (SG/CR), or Link/Support Minmitar Scout (SG) Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches No. I only use it in matches that are stomps (in my favor), just to have fun jumping and finding new parts of the map, or getting up at rooftop campers. How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected (Should be "affected") your match to match game play? - please describe your experience It is fun to run, but aside from isolated 1v1's against someone with poor aim, it is simply not an effective combat load out. Playing against players who use it to get to high ground to camp is annoying, but high ground camping is broken in general in public matches/FW, so I believe that it is simply an easier to use dropship for some people, which is fine in my opinion. Fix high ground camping, and the only arguably OP thing about myofibs is fixed. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective For myself personally, I am not having as much fun anymore, but it is totally unrelated to myofibs, and is a product of stagnant PC, and a lot of players that I was close with leaving the game. Myofibrils actually added to the fun I would have in game, as the users are generally easy kills for myself, and Im not cross-eyed and can aim, and making Mass Drivers and Flaylocks (YAY minmitar!) viable is another huge plus. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here No, though fall damage calculations need to be looked at. In a max biotic minmitar scout, I can 5 shot myself by sprint jumping up and down on flat ground. That's just silly. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here No tweaks necessary outside of fall damage calculations. - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. -- What is the name of your main? - Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p BRB, looking for socks Asslut Rifles OP, anal now I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives

I-Shayz-I I----------I 5345	Posted - 2015.04.15 00:04:00 - [31] - Quote 1. Primary play mode(s) -Skirmish 2. Top role(s) used since the change -Heavy, Solo logi 3. Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? -Level 5 first day 3a. Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? -Yes; Caldari Heavy, Minmatar Assault, and uplink fit 3b. Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? -All the time, because it is way fun. 4. How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? -I really like the different areas that are now possible to reach with at least 3 mods on a fast suit. Makes placing uplinks much easier. 5. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? -I haven't had this much fun in the game in forever. 6. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? -They should be buffed to provide more jump height with one module, but the fitting requirement should be increased dramatically, and a stacking penalty applied. Thinking 1.5x buff, 2-3x fitting cost (100-150 CPU for a complex mod) 6b. Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see -I love the increase in mobility of the modules, but when I want to make a melee suit I end up with a suit that jumps too high. On a heavy suit however, 3 modules barely does anything, while 4 modules makes you jump way too high. -If we were to buff the modules to require less slots, players would use shield extenders to make competitive fits...therefore an increase in fitting cost would make players choose between the two (or have to sacrifice low slots for cpu mods) -Adding a stacking penalty to the jump height bonus will reduce the maximum height you can obtain with these modules, meaning that ANY suit can make use of myo's, not just Caldari and Minmatar suits. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2570	Posted - 2015.04.15 07:26:00 - [32] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - Skirmish Top role(s) used since the change - I fill in on everything, but generally assault, scout or heavy. Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? Yes Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? No Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? No How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? I tried hard to participate in the initial burst of research on myo's and eventually got answers that myo's do have stacking penalties and affect jump speed. Overall I have found a myo or two to be okay, but stacked myo's to be incredibly problematic. They allow users to get into incredibly difficult to deal with places, negate whatever positional advantages that an opponent may have traditionally had with good cover (while still being able to use it themselves), they turn a few sockets into real problems and the common tactic with it is to use splash weapons, shoot at opponents feet and basically strafe in a new and incredibly fast manner with a single button press. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? While there have been numerous improvements I find stacked myofibril fits to be incredibly difficult to deal with, due to their unconventional ways of engaging, strafing, negation of cover, incredible lethality at close range and ability to outright move in manners that opponents cannot. It creates a layer of asymmetrical gameplay that I dislike. There are a few sockets that I frequently avoid at the moment due to how hard they are to fight when myo fits are present. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? They need to be tuned-down, or hard-capped at two. If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? Decreased. The initial stated intent from rattati was that 3 complex myo's would just barely allow a minmatar scout to jump onto a 'big' crate, the reality is that myo's are allowing people to jump up to 12 or 13 meters at incredible speed. Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. I find that one or two complex myo's in general do not provide too much advantage, but three or four to be overwhelming. I would lower the bonuses they provide, or hard-cap them at low amounts. Because the module affects jump speed there is not a direct linear progression of modules fitted to jump height. The extremes are too extreme. What is the name of your main? Mina Longstrike. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Vicious Minotaur 2302	Posted - 2015.04.15 08:09:00 - [33] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - Domination Top role(s) used since the change - Assault, HMG sentinel Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - Yup Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - Yup Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - Yup. Most used fitting, at that. How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - I have more fun in a match. I get to be tactical with my jumping. I frequently jump up to areas where campers are prone to sitting, camping an objective on a roof. Such a camped Domination objective is a very difficult&frustrating thing to counter (high ground advantage is a legitimate thing), and using my Myofibril fit, I can counter people that otherwise would require extreme risk via a Dropship, or Large WP for a Warbage strike. However, while I can jump up and try to counter people, my jumping does not guarantee success: they can still murder me with good gun game. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - Yup. Jumping is fun. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - Jumping height, with 3x complex myos on a minmatar assault, seems fine. More than that seems stupid. If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - 1) Jump height for 4+ myos needs decreased if anything. 2) In addition, tying jump height to the duration the jump button is held would be nice. I think Kain Spero mentioned such a thing... (tap 'x,' jump normal; hold 'x,' jump full myofibril'd height) Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. (see previous number in question above) 1a) Four+ myos allows obscenely high jumps, looks bad, and just feels wrong. 1b) 3 complex myos allows for jumping a single story on a minmatar assault, and feels just right as far as just mobility is concerned. 2a) Such a thing would turn jumping with myos into a tactical decision that further disincentives the annoying thing of jumping mid-combat to gain an advantage over an opponent due to tracking issues 2b) It would also decrease the annoyances of a jumper jumping high mid-combat due to panic. 2c) Jumping high as a tactical decision is cool. Jumping high as a combat maneuver is annoying as hell. What is the name of your main? - N/A I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Kuruld Sengar G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 306	Posted - 2015.04.15 10:30:00 - [34] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time: Domination exclusively. Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in: Minmatar logi about 60% and minmatar assault the other 40%. Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice: Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice: Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matches: Yes How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience: It gives a fairly significant mobility advantage over other players. Very useful for high links, raining down md/flaylock. Direct fire weapons are harder to use when jumping because airspeed is inconsistent. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective: I enjoy it more. Mainly because of new exploration and maneuverability options that have opened up. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here: I think they are fine. The 4-5 myo fits can jump very high but I believe are balanced somewhat because of the lack of damage mods/shield extenders, and the long hang time. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here: I would actually rather see the jump increase curve become more linear. A decrease would make 1-2 nearly useless, while an increase would make 4-5 probably fatal. - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. As mentioned in the last question, I would like to see jump height progression become more linear. There is too big of an increase from 3 to 4 to 5, yet 1 and 2 are almost negligible in comparison. What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. Kuruld Sengar
DJINN Jecture MANUFACTURERS OF DEATH 332	Posted - 2015.04.15 23:13:00 - [35] - Quote I believe Myos are in an ok spot right now, based on the increased mobility vs less tank or dps they are relatively fair. Yes I have used them, yes I play mostly in pubs with some factional mixed in, no the myofibs are not an all the time or even 90% of the time choice for me. No the game hasn't gotten better or worse due to the change only different. It is still broken (the game not myos) and likely will be till the glitches are sorted, keep fixing everything CCP. -.- *-ç +æ+Ä ß+¦ß¦+Gé¦ß+¡ !!!* *ß¦äß¦â-à*
Alena Ventrallis Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 3012	Posted - 2015.04.16 01:47:00 - [36] - Quote They are simply a novelty, nothing more. Whirly gun make much thunder! - Victor
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1016	Posted - 2015.04.16 06:24:00 - [37] - Quote Primary play mode(s) Pubs Top role(s) used since the change logi, assult, scout, heavy, commando, ADS Pilot Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? No - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? No - How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? Yes. every, match has jumpers, so i have to counter them somehow. Usually the only counter is a second jumper Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - No. I liked gritty dust, and though I gave fibs a chance, they havent grown on me. Its the opposite of what drew me into this game for the last 2 years. Also, made AV a great deal harder to counter (leaping behind cover to shoot swarms), marginalized the role of troop transport, killed the role of air interceptor, amarr logi's bonus is marginalzed now, becausde a scout/min assault, cal logi can place uplinks better any amarr logi. Destroys the balance of a lot of weapons now. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? lots of tuning. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? decreased. - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see Stacking penalty, a 3rd fib should be ineffective. People want to jump sure, but half of what is possible now. What is the name of your main? Tesfa Alem Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1016	Posted - 2015.04.16 06:30:00 - [38] - Quote also, reading trhought he answers it is telling that shield based assault suits can run no shields and still be a combat effective fit. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 421	Posted - 2015.04.16 07:05:00 - [39] - Quote My response is short, but not so sweet. Absolutely cannot stand the jumping. Ruined the game so I haven't been playing. The map design and purpose was thrown to the dogs. The only people who are enjoying this are 50mil+ SP people who are bored and those with high latency. ........I guess those are the ONLY people playing...... Just because your SPEEDTEST.net shows a good connection, doesn't mean you are not a lagging f*ck
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2573	Posted - 2015.04.16 07:30:00 - [40] - Quote Also wanted to add a comment, that the returns on myo's are way beyond what they should be. Four 25% modules shouldn't be seeing the 400% increase in jump height that they're providing, the actual increase should be 87%. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Haerr Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 2748	Posted - 2015.04.16 11:17:00 - [41] - Quote Stop d!cking around. Fix the missing stacking penalty already...
VALCORE72 Vengeance Unbound RUST415 285	Posted - 2015.04.16 11:38:00 - [42] - Quote they are fine where there at really . you have to gimp your suit to get the most out of them. also helps vs low roof top campers . no place is a i win button here . as it should be . they are a utility fittings . useful 40% of the time . good ratio . asian haters united lol .
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2015.04.16 11:52:00 - [43] - Quote Template; Primary play mode(s) - Pubs Top role(s) used since the change - Logi/Assault Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - No How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - It's made me feel like I'm in an arcade shooter, not a gritty war. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - No. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - Further tuning required - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - Changed to a fixed addition to jump height - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - Percentage based effects benefit the already super fast scouts far too much while basically not affecting the slow suits CCP claimed they were there to help. Fixed height addition to jumps while maintaining the stacking penalty means you don't get people clearing buildings in a single bound, while still allowing for increased mobility over smaller obstacles. Buildings requiring effort to get over makes for more tactical game play, while being able to jump over/up to basically anything promotes arcade style gameplay. What is the name of your main? - This one.
Slave of MORTE 377	Posted - 2015.04.16 13:32:00 - [44] - Quote Template; Primary play mode(s) - where you spend most of your in match time skirmish fw Top role(s) used since the change - roles you use nearly every battle you're in amar and min assault ..amar min logi Amar scout blaster Madrugar Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - a simple yes/no will suffice yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - a simple yes/no will suffice Yes 3 - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - In more than 1/3rd of your current matchesyes How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - please describe your experience it greatly benefits my logis as well as plc av it's tactically very usefull Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - it is completely reasonable for this response to be subjective I mean it's dust it has more depth now ..so yes ide say it's more enjoyable because there's another style of gameplay to consider Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - a simple statement is sufficient here No fine as Is - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - a simple statement is sufficient here fine as is - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - please be as clear and specific as possible, simple responses are fine but the more dispassionate you are in the response the more useful your feedback will be. What is the name of your main? - This question inclined for use in e-mail or those posting on a character other than their main played merc. Mortedeamor I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 422	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:05:00 - [45] - Quote VALCORE72 wrote: they are fine where there at really . you have to gimp your suit to get the most out of them. also helps vs low roof top campers . no place is a i win button here . as it should be . they are a utility fittings . useful 40% of the time . good ratio . 40% is still too high. 20-30% usage is a better BALANCE. What is funny is that we wouldnt need this if your character could step up a 6" lip Just because your SPEEDTEST.net shows a good connection, doesn't mean you are not a lagging f*ck
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6284	Posted - 2015.04.17 12:23:00 - [46] - Quote Putting one on a Sentinel makes it much easier to move over rough terrain. You don't get stuck as much. Putting two on a Sentinel allows it to jump over a railing the same as an unmodified Assault suit. As for facing the super bouncy lighter suits in battle, once I got used to it, it did not annoy me as much as I expected. The super bouncy Plasma Cannon users still impress me... Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6286	Posted - 2015.04.17 12:39:00 - [47] - Quote Template: Primary play mode(s) - All Modes Top role(s) used since the change - Min Sentinel, Burst HMG Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - Yes How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - Min Sent with 1 Myofibril: Can climb a hill without getting stuck. Can go cross country without getting stuck. (Gives up a Shield Extender) Min Sent with 2 Myofibril: Can jump over a rail like an unmodified Assault suit. (Gives up a Shield Extender and an Energizer.) Cal Sent with 3 Myofibril: Can bounce a bit, but needs Stamina Module to be effective. (Full Biotic fit.) Not sure this is a tactically useful fit. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - Somewhat Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - Not sure. Still on the fence about the supper bounce fits. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - N/A - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - N/A What is the name of your main? - Fox Gaden Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8887	Posted - 2015.04.18 04:21:00 - [48] - Quote Somewhat relevant: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2730055#post2730055 Stamina pool is drained by 25% with each jump, which limits total jumps to 4 (or so we thought). This mechanic was added in Uprising 1.0 presumably to curb bunnyhopping. The count limitation is overridden by CardRegs. In a nutshell, a 4x myofib'd super mario can take flight 8x back-to-back before he runs out of stamina, provided he fits 1 complex green. Witnessed this for the first time in game today. It was pretty ridiculous. Hoping it doesn't catch on. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2678	Posted - 2015.04.18 15:04:00 - [49] - Quote I use 1 myo on an uplink scout for accessibility/mobility, as well as 3 on a minsault trolling fit. Banjo Robertson covered all the points on my list, with a few minor differences: 1) Scouts should be primary beneficiaries for mobility modules. 2) Fewer modules with greater effect but balanced by a stacking penalty. 3) Mostlly minimize disparities between effects of myos on racial scouts, but lowest ehp/mass suits should retain an advantage. 4) Slightly less efficacy for assaults vs. scouts. 5) More utility from myos for commandos, not so much for heavies - mass is the answer here, imo. 6) More finesse/functionality: hit jump button for full instant jump, hold jump button for wind-up indicator. 7) More immersion/complexity: non-linear stamina consumption as a function of jump height. Allows subtle operators to out-finesse their clumsier opponents. PSN: RationalSpark
DiablosMajora 103	Posted - 2015.04.19 20:21:00 - [50] - Quote Primary play mode(s) Domination Top role(s) used since the change Infiltrate and Assassinate. Cloak in, drop some sneaky Uplinks, find some targets and start stabbing. Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? Exclusively in high slots Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? See above Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? Yes, see above. How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? Went from a crappy RE tank hunter to exclusively an assassin. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? Yes, as we have been provided a literally new axis with which to play. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? Yes, there needs to be 1 or 2 inherent in all suits. I find it excruciatingly difficult to play without them. The extra mobility is very helpful. If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? Ideally increased somewhat. I have 3x Enhanced and cant jump atop boxes without going an awkward angle or route to get on top. Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see. Again, 1 or 2 Myos inherent in all suits. Not being able to jump over minor rails as a heavy and having to walk ALL THE WAY AROUND must be excruciatingly frustrating for some people, and a base jump height that is respectable for all suits is... well, respectable. For the record, my suit is named Imperial Navy Stabber Prepare your angus

Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 2139	Posted - 2015.04.19 22:38:00 - [51] - Quote Primary play mode(s) - Planetary Conquest Top role(s) used since the change - ADS/Assault Have you tried the Myofibril Stimulant since the change? - Yes - Do you currently have a Myofibril Stimulant based fitting? - Yes - - Do you use Myofibril Stimulant based fitting consistently? - Yes How has the addition of Myofibril Stimulant jumping effected your match to match game play? - Increased Uplink placement variety, and map traversal. Do you personally feel the game is more enjoyable now? - Very much so. Myofibs give me alternatives to a stale ground game, and allow more useful variations in my fittings. Do Myofibril Stimulant need further tuning or are they fine as is? - I do not believe so. Jumping to any reasonable hight requires a High Slot heavy suit, fitting Myofibs instead of Shield or Damage mods. This tradeoff between survivability and movement is the kind of choice I expect from Dust. - If you feel Myofibril Stimulants need a tweak do you desire to see their effects increased or decreased? - Neither. - - Please outline the method and reasoning behind any change you would like to see - I think they are fantastic how they are. *Make my Scrambler Pink!*


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