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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
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Posted - 2015.02.28 00:24:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
Reading this....makes me believe that you don't play this game.
Doesn't make any points made less valid...no response? This is a forum after all.
fo-+rum -êf+¦r+Öm noun 1. a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1807
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Posted - 2015.02.28 00:48:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:out of curiosity...is everyone ok with it?
If by spam you mean the RE grenade use, then no, I'm fed up.
If by spam you mean lots of REs used, then yes, I'm ok.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8093
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Posted - 2015.02.28 00:53:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
Reading this....makes me believe that you don't play this game.
How so?
I am open to discussion, but perhaps you would like to add some support to your claim as I did mine.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
569
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Posted - 2015.02.28 00:58:00 -
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I wouldn't call it spam. Just like I thought the grenade nerf was useless. They aren't being overused but being used to their maximum potential. When a scout somehow runs through a crowd of 6 guys, escape to the next room and get an orbital like kill board they are being used properly. When a min Assault places REs and single handily and 20kills late defends the suppy depot on the lag facility from the entire enemy team, they are used properly. Its just the stupidity of everybody for not checking for them, including me, and it makes for some funny kills. They are fine.
(all stories were accurately accounted and referenced from PLAYSTTIONs personal archives)
Gassault Calogi and more. Respec Pending.
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
569
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Posted - 2015.02.28 01:05:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Simply, RE's should be used as traps, not grenades. The reason why RE's are spammed is partly that grenades are too weak. A Sentinel with reps can tank, like, three of them, yet only two can be carried. This is my suggestion:
- Buff Core Locus damage to 800.
- Buff grenade capacity to three.
- Implement timer before RE's can be detonated (the one that was meant to be implemented last update).
- Adjust Sentinels' and HMG's base stats accordingly.
While I would sure love another 200hp of damage and another one of my beloved core locus grenades, I'm not sure that would help reduce RE spamming so much as it would make core locus grenades OP. I agree 100%, however, with your thought on REs being traps and not short range throwable grenades. I believe Dreis is right. They grenade nerf took away 200hp and reduced it to 2 because of supposed "Grenade Spam" and the "RE spam" started shortly after.
I want grenades back the way they were, i think it would fix the whole "problem".
Gassault Calogi and more. Respec Pending.
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
1526
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Posted - 2015.02.28 01:50:00 -
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I'm in the group:
Remotes are fine so long as heavies are the way they are.
As for the whole grenade thing, I think the better thing to do would just make heavies more susceptible to explosives instead. Easily can make grenades a way to flush out heavies while not ******* with other suits.
Our lives are nothing but a means to an end.
AIV member.
21 day EVE trial.
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SNF6 WILLKILLYOU
SPEEDWAY GP
0
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Posted - 2015.02.28 02:29:00 -
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I've been talking to lot of player about the abuse of remote explosive and most of us tought that if regular explosive,not the proxi,not the packed but just if the regular explosive needed a really quick hack to activate them,just time to press the button O on it,that way people would'nt be able to trow them from a roof and scrub kill like that,there is so many weapon now that can do that a bit,scrambler riffle,sniper,plasma canon,mass driver,but remote are to powerfull and no need to aim at all or anticipate how people move on the battle field,they just wait or throw them like freesbe,I don't even know why ccp change the way to drop them,before the were only drop at feet,not 10 meters away,so if everybody agree to that please admin do something,because big corp scrubber are killing this game about that,on our side in quebec canada we have lost so many player because of that,just around 24 best player of the game,and about 100 player in dust that I know,so please do something quick thanks
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8094
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Posted - 2015.02.28 02:59:00 -
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SNF6 WILLKILLYOU wrote:I've been talking to lot of player about the abuse of remote explosive and most of us tought that if regular explosive,not the proxi,not the packed but just if the regular explosive needed a really quick hack to activate them,just time to press the button O on it,that way people would'nt be able to trow them from a roof and scrub kill like that,there is so many weapon now that can do that a bit,scrambler riffle,sniper,plasma canon,mass driver,but remote are to powerfull and no need to aim at all or anticipate how people move on the battle field,they just wait or throw them like freesbe,I don't even know why ccp change the way to drop them,before the were only drop at feet,not 10 meters away,so if everybody agree to that please admin do something,because big corp scrubber are killing this game about that,on our side in quebec canada we have lost so many player because of that,just around 24 best player of the game,and about 100 player in dust that I know,so please do something quick thanks
I think you brought this up already in a thread you started, that also had no use of the enter key.
You don't need to hack your own EQ, that is not needed. You may as well just extend the activation time.
SMH
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
420
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Posted - 2015.02.28 03:01:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:I wouldn't call it spam. Just like I thought the grenade nerf was useless. They aren't being overused but being used to their maximum potential. When a scout somehow runs through a crowd of 6 guys, escape to the next room and get an orbital like kill board they are being used properly. When a min Assault places REs and single handily and 20kills late defends the suppy depot on the lag facility from the entire enemy team, they are used properly. Its just the stupidity of everybody for not checking for them, including me, and it makes for some funny kills. They are fine.
(all stories were accurately accounted and referenced from PLAYSTTIONs personal archives) I wish more people that play this game thinks like you, people are so naive. If it kills them it's spam.... |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
420
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Posted - 2015.02.28 03:03:00 -
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SNF6 WILLKILLYOU wrote:I've been talking to lot of player about the abuse of remote explosive and most of us tought that if regular explosive,not the proxi,not the packed but just if the regular explosive needed a really quick hack to activate them,just time to press the button O on it,that way people would'nt be able to trow them from a roof and scrub kill like that,there is so many weapon now that can do that a bit,scrambler riffle,sniper,plasma canon,mass driver,but remote are to powerfull and no need to aim at all or anticipate how people move on the battle field,they just wait or throw them like freesbe,I don't even know why ccp change the way to drop them,before the were only drop at feet,not 10 meters away,so if everybody agree to that please admin do something,because big corp scrubber are killing this game about that,on our side in quebec canada we have lost so many player because of that,just around 24 best player of the game,and about 100 player in dust that I know,so please do something quick thanks
Why hack your own equipment? That's just plain BS. Carry Flux, don't let the scout escape kill him on site not so hard. |
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1320
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Posted - 2015.02.28 03:04:00 -
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check my sig, dear op...
Please support fair play!
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SNF6 WILLKILLYOU
SPEEDWAY GP
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Posted - 2015.02.28 03:16:00 -
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yeah right,killing a explosive in a middle of a battle of heavy will kill my owm teammate,and scrub use remote and explode them right away,they just don't only use them on hack point they scrub kills like in the gallente city they go on roof and on raail in the structure and scrub kill with remote and nano to get infiny remote it's just a bad way and if ya guys wat to kill the game remote scrubing is the best way,soon even myself if CCP don't do anything I will quit this game,this is the only FPS that I play because I love the way CCP do this game,but because some people just scrub the game CCP lost around 70% of the player playing it just because of remote abuse,mod keyboard and mouse and blue shield that player use lag switch,soon it will be a 50 player game,it's already that in pc,and just talking quick hacking remote so we can keep them and use them on hack point or preventive strategic point ,not throwing them like freesbe on heavy to scrub kill,and CCP remove them in closed beta before,they put it back because player were behaving the good way,now it's just really bad abuse of remote throw,before we could not do that,they were only dropping at your feet,and was great,now people rage quit this game because some player don't know any strategic plan to kill heavy,there is mass driver to do that,plasma canon,road kill,tank,not a apex suit with remote that go in and throw remote and scrub kill like that, |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8095
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Posted - 2015.02.28 03:20:00 -
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So you are mad because people kill you in ways you don't like?
Doesn't mean its being spammed.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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DDx77
The Exemplars RISE of LEGION
154
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Posted - 2015.02.28 03:28:00 -
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RE's are perfect. Don't touch em'
Every time I get killed I always feel it's my fault, I'm either hacking and missed it or I chase a kill into a trap - to which I say gg
The players that fling them and suicide with them do kill me too but not enough that I feel anything is wrong about it.
Militia Bolt Pistol - Cause that fourth shot is just a waste of time
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SNF6 WILLKILLYOU
SPEEDWAY GP
0
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Posted - 2015.02.28 03:30:00 -
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no I'm not mad,but getting kill 24 time in a battle by remote yes,getting spawn kill 18 times because 8 player are playing with remote yes,and getting kill for 1 month now because player abuse RE because CCP make them trow like freesbe yes,this game is getting bad in a way,that's why even in battle field nobody do hardcore matches because you end up agains 100 sniper,game should have a diversity to kill people,but some player and good one,abuse remote when they can kill easy with regular gun or other way then re think is getting bad,and trust me,re is killing this game big time,we already have enough with mod controller and much more to deal with re abusing,player had it remove before completly off the game,and now that player abuse explosive all good player that play fair just quit the game,some are willing to come back,but not before ccp do something about re abuse,we can deal with mod keyboard and mouse and blue shield,but that just the cherry on the sunday that kill this game from having 100 000 thousand player,,now we are maby not even a thousand to play it,so be good to have a 1000 player come back but they wont not before re are fix agains scrubbing :) and yes I'm french canadian :) so please don't scrub my talking lollllll,trying my best , :) |
The Eristic
Dust 90210
826
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Posted - 2015.02.28 07:03:00 -
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The frisbee + timer is annoying, but for god's sake, get 'em off APEX suits. There should not be a completely risk-free way to use something with that much killing power.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
422
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Posted - 2015.02.28 07:05:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:The frisbee + timer is annoying, but for god's sake, get 'em off APEX suits. There should not be a completely risk-free way to use something with that much killing power. Are you gonna refund me the apex suit? I paid for it because of the layout. I like the RE on my tiger scout. |
axis alpha
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
653
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Posted - 2015.02.28 07:20:00 -
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I have had to use re tactic even before it was a thing wayyyy before.... But it always made me feel dirty..... If it gives you a funny feeling..... Just stop.
Right away.... Save your integrity.
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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Jebus McKing
Nos Nothi
1558
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Posted - 2015.02.28 08:15:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:out of curiosity...is everyone ok with it? The only thing that is annoying about REs is the constant whining about them here in the forums.
REs are fine.
Jebus hates scans.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
45
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Posted - 2015.02.28 08:31:00 -
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They would be perfectly fine if they were not restocked by hives.
Problem scenario 1:
Scout with PRO hive and RE stands around corner from heavy.
Scout throws RE.
Heavy shoots RE.
Scout throws another RE.
Heavy shoots RE.
Scout throws another RE.
Heavy shoots RE.
Scout refills on hive.
Scout throws RE.
Repeat for a very long time through 2-3 nanohives.
Problem Scenario 2:
Logi stands on high ground with 2 sets of REs and 1 set of nanohives.
Logi drops RE and waits for someone to step on it.
Repeat step 1 X times.
Logi refills on hive.
Repeat steps 2 - 4.
Why should 2 pieces of equipment give a single person an unending supply of defense of a well chosen area? Ratatti said that REs are working as intended as traps. In every use of a trap that I have seen in any game or in the real world it has to be placed with some strategy not just spammed until you get lucky and some one stumbles into it.
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
423
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Posted - 2015.02.28 09:01:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:They would be perfectly fine if they were not restocked by hives.
Problem scenario 1:
Scout with PRO hive and RE stands around corner from heavy.
Scout throws RE.
Heavy shoots RE.
Scout throws another RE.
Heavy shoots RE.
Scout throws another RE.
Heavy shoots RE.
Scout refills on hive.
Scout throws RE.
Repeat for a very long time through 2-3 nanohives.
Problem Scenario 2:
Logi stands on high ground with 2 sets of REs and 1 set of nanohives.
Logi drops RE and waits for someone to step on it.
Repeat step 1 X times.
Logi refills on hive.
Repeat steps 2 - 4.
Why should 2 pieces of equipment give a single person an unending supply of defense of a well chosen area? Ratatti said that REs are working as intended as traps. In every use of a trap that I have seen in any game or in the real world it has to be placed with some strategy not just spammed until you get lucky and some one stumbles into it.
Why don't you include Flux grenades in this scenario? Use Flux and rush them, then sneeze on scout and he'll die. |
dzizur
Expert Intervention Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2015.02.28 09:07:00 -
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Ehh.. yeah, go ahead, nerf another thing.
lets shite all over RE to the point no one uses them and move on to another thing
afterall we can't let those poor heavies die!!
Restock RE on hives? naaah, they should be restocked by paying AUR inside enemy MCC for it, this way they can be as awesome as f.e. contact nades.
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dzizur
Expert Intervention Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2015.02.28 09:10:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Why don't you include Flux grenades in this scenario? Use Flux and rush them, then sneeze on scout and he'll die.
That's 'cause he's got core locusts in that slot to spam the shite out of militia fits ;)
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
423
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Posted - 2015.02.28 09:23:00 -
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dzizur wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Why don't you include Flux grenades in this scenario? Use Flux and rush them, then sneeze on scout and he'll die.
That's 'cause he's got core locusts in that slot to spam the shite out of militia fits ;) Exactly, people don't want to adapt. If it isn't a AR or a gun similar to its OP. Why? Because it isn't point and click. |
H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game
480
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Posted - 2015.02.28 09:55:00 -
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Since they are throwed and not dropped, you never know where they are, or at least you discover it too late, a solution? Maybe make them permascanned for the first "x" seconds after you throw them, adding time from the moment you drop it to the one you can detonate it
"Doc DDD is better than you" cit. Extacy cravings; "You are only lucky" cit. Takashiro kashuken. Tanker since chromosome
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SNF6 WILLKILLYOU
SPEEDWAY GP
0
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Posted - 2015.02.28 10:08:00 -
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that be nice to see them when dropping out for few seconds on apassive scan,after 3 seconde they disapear,and had to be scan to reveal them again,but at least heavy will have time to move a bit,and a 3 seconds dealay before been remotly activated,that will make sense and enhance the game without having to nerf or remove an item of dust,good Idea Horizon |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
423
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Posted - 2015.02.28 10:16:00 -
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H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:Since they are throwed and not dropped, you never know where they are, or at least you discover it too late, a solution? Maybe make them permascanned for the first "x" seconds after you throw them, adding time from the moment you drop it to the one you can detonate it By that logic, snipers and nova knifers and anyone/anything that kills you when you don't know where it's coming from is OP or a problem. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean you can't avoid them, sometimes you can't and that's because the user who placed them outsmarted you. RE'S aren't a new item, a lot of people have learned how to deal with them. I learned the hard way, I carry fluxnades. Don't hack something without fluxing. Don't walk in doorways where the red berry ran into. Don't stay close to turning corners. I'm not saying you're completely wrong but a lot of people cry on forums without thinking abouta way to slove a problem. |
SNF6 WILLKILLYOU
SPEEDWAY GP
0
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Posted - 2015.02.28 10:23:00 -
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and flaylock steve,I don't care if I don't throw a flux grenade on a hack point and got my butt exploded,lolll,what I don't like and most all player of dust don't like is to get a billion RE on their head from 8 player that just go aroung a CRU or a hack point and just do spawm killing the whole game,and much of the player that abuse of RE are blueshielding all the time,they use lag switch etc to run thru a bunch of heavy's that shoot at them but they take no domage and just press L1 and boom,no more player enjoying dust and make them leave forever,it's not that we don't adapt,it's because player abuse in any way posible this game like knoming all respawn place around a hack point or CRU and just do easy kill,if at least we could decide where to spawn around a hack point or cru be nice,but the game need some work to be able to make it fair,and veterant can go around those probleme's but all newb just play 1 week and left forever this game,and even some veterant too now and move to another game,so we need to get together to see new face in this game,tired of alway's playin again's OH opus and capital aquisition and grupos that sync in public all the time,and even some corp are starting to get left on the side because thru dust player are even leaving for a while because is just getting ridiculously abusing of all way to cheat a game,mod control and keyboard,,lagswitch,heavy machine gun that shoot thru walls barrier without getting domage,nice hey,and if corp battle come's back it will be nice because we will play together with our friend that play this game fair and the scrub of this game will play again's themself,maybe there ya'll see why dust keep loosing player and not getting much new player,because much of the new player are just alt of regular player in dust,and we can play scrub too,I make 42 kill with remote in a battle,easy,but I don't play them except on haking point because I want to see new player having fun,and staying in dust514,not ya
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game
481
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Posted - 2015.02.28 10:27:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:Since they are throwed and not dropped, you never know where they are, or at least you discover it too late, a solution? Maybe make them permascanned for the first "x" seconds after you throw them, adding time from the moment you drop it to the one you can detonate it By that logic, snipers and nova knifers and anyone/anything that kills you when you don't know where it's coming from is OP or a problem. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean you can't avoid them, sometimes you can't and that's because the user who placed them outsmarted you. RE'S aren't a new item, a lot of people have learned how to deal with them. I learned the hard way, I carry fluxnades. Don't hack something without fluxing. Don't walk in doorways where the red berry ran into. Don't stay close to turning corners. I'm not saying you're completely wrong but a lot of people cry on forums without thinking abouta way to slove a problem. You can track where a sniper shoot from, a nova knifer if kill you from behind is a good one, but if you are in a map in which there is no light and RE's disappears and then they are 10 metres away this is not fair, actually the only way to escape a RE is run against who throw RE. You dont need to be smart at the moment, you need a good connection and RE's so stop defend something that it s clearly ****** up
"Doc DDD is better than you" cit. Extacy cravings; "You are only lucky" cit. Takashiro kashuken. Tanker since chromosome
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
423
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Posted - 2015.02.28 10:31:00 -
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SNF6 WILLKILLYOU wrote:and flaylock steve,I don't care if I don't throw a flux grenade on a hack point and got my butt exploded,lolll,what I don't like and most all player of dust don't like is to get a billion RE on their head from 8 player that just go aroung a CRU or a hack point and just do spawm killing the whole game,and much of the player that abuse of RE are blueshielding all the time,they use lag switch etc to run thru a bunch of heavy's that shoot at them but they take no domage and just press L1 and boom,no more player enjoying dust and make them leave forever,it's not that we don't adapt,it's because player abuse in any way posible this game like knoming all respawn place around a hack point or CRU and just do easy kill,if at least we could decide where to spawn around a hack point or cru be nice,but the game need some work to be able to make it fair,and veterant can go around those probleme's but all newb just play 1 week and left forever this game,and even some veterant too now and move to another game,so we need to get together to see new face in this game,tired of alway's playin again's OH opus and capital aquisition and grupos that sync in public all the time,and even some corp are starting to get left on the side because thru dust player are even leaving for a while because is just getting ridiculously abusing of all way to cheat a game,mod control and keyboard,,lagswitch,heavy machine gun that shoot thru walls barrier without getting domage,nice hey,and if corp battle come's back it will be nice because we will play together with our friend that play this game fair and the scrub of this game will play again's themself,maybe there ya'll see why dust keep loosing player and not getting much new player,because much of the new player are just alt of regular player in dust,and we can play scrub too,I make 42 kill with remote in a battle,easy,but I don't play them except on haking point because I want to see new player having fun,and staying in dust514,not ya
Abusing RE? I do agree with the CRU camping and everything else you said but abusing RE? It's a remote control explosive, you walk near it, I click the trigger and you die. Same as you aim your gun at my duck tape scout I'm dead. It's not abuse, it's just something that works. |
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