I said the restaurant should tell it's customer what it had or didn't have before hand..

Unfortunately the restaurant CCP runs doesn't even have a menu or positive reviews for that matter to suggest otherwise..

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The hilarious part is when I was up here fighting for an explanation for every little thing, not a single one of you kittens were up there with me. Things like asking for updates on Project Legion, further transparency on long-term goals and what not. Where were you when no-one was saying anything? What about the olives then, eh?

But no, when it comes to 'Quafe' suits (changing color values on shaders, relatively simple) versus full on brand new weapon design (requiring an entire team to work at) you guys are the first ones to jump and call foul, pandering to this ideal that somehow a dude simply saying 'no' is some great overarching biblical sign that he's a kitten-hole.

Kittening priorities, man.

Pretty sure I was with you on all of that if I wasn't it was because that was my time I spent away from the forums and game but due to lack of transparency on those issues the current has gotten worse...

And yet, here you are, complaining about the service.

Because at one point in time they had a menu and I continued to eat because I was optimistic on what gourmet meals the chef had to offer. Now we're both just sitting here drinking stale coffee being force fed leftovers from last week's buffet

How can you claim something is false without being able to gauge it?

Soraya, please. Are you really supporting this or just trolling? If you are trolling please let us talk this out rationally. The players are upset, you represent them.

Pfft I'm not upset so don't speak for me.

All I see here is a new patch and content coming in with AURUM options that I may buy into because, guess what? I can. So don't say that this is going down the wrong path because it isn't - just another option if you choose to buy into it or not.

As I said before, very few things in this patch note dont contain an AUR part. It seems like CCP takes the whole community for bank accounts more than players.

Sorry to say that, but the Player experience isn't gonna change after that patch. The few bugs that are fixed are minor ones (falling through the map while in a tank/spawning easily in a mobile CRU), and inertia damp/squad leader WP are just reintroduction of already existing features.

Watlord 1.0 is just another cashgrab.

As I said before, very few things in this patch note dont contain an AUR part. It seems like CCP takes the whole community for bank accounts more than players.

Sorry to say that, but the Player experience isn't gonna change after that patch. The few bugs that are fixed are minor ones (falling through the map while in a tank/spawning easily in a mobile CRU), and inertia damp/squad leader WP are just reintroduction of already existing features.

Watlord 1.0 is just another cashgrab.

Watlord 1.0 is just another cashgrab.

Two things to consider.
First its the start of more stuff coming like corp barges.
Second paying is optional.
Wait for 1.1 and see how that changes the perspective.

Warbarge component availability is really no different than SP boosters: Earn them in game, or pay to get them faster.

I'd say that yes, every new game feature should have a completely optional monetization aspect that carries no benefit than allowing you to access things faster. Because that means the game can make money without having to entertain really awful ideas that are distinctly pay-to-win. If you do not want the monetization component, do not buy the things, and it does not affect you, because it is not pay-to-win.

There are improvements every release that do not involve monetization at all.

You can literally get away with playing this game for absolutely nothing and you will be able to achieve the exact same performance as someone who has paid a million bucks into it. What are you crying about?

Warbarge component availability is really no different than SP boosters: Earn them in game, or pay to get them faster.

I'd say that yes, every new game feature should have a completely optional monetization aspect that carries no benefit than allowing you to access things faster. Because that means the game can make money without having to entertain really awful ideas that are distinctly pay-to-win. If you do not want the monetization component, do not buy the things, and it does not affect you, because it is not pay-to-win.

There are improvements every release that do not involve monetization at all.

I just wanted to follow-up on this post with my final thoughts on the matter.

After playing a few pub matches last night I decided to investigate a few F2P game's monetization strategies. I reviewed games that are similar to DUST 514, like Planetside 2. I also reviewed games that were very different from DUST 514, like League of Legends. My personal opinion, as of Uprising Warlords 1.0, is that Dust's current levels of monetization are acceptable.

If Dust 514 had a larger playerbase perhaps CCP would be satisfied with boosters, instant boosters, mission rerolls, aurum gear, and vanity BPOs. Sadly, it does not have a large playerbase so CCP is doing what is must do to ensure the game doesn't die.

BUT

There is one glaring, irritating, and all around poorly executed "cash grab" that is unacceptable: Encrypted Strongboxes / Keys

I will begrudgingly accept the other forms of monetization, but not this one.

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Key drop rate, and appearance as a mission reward, needs to be increased a great deal.

or

Encrypted strongboxes need an alternative use. Allow us to melt them down for scrap (ISK). Allow us to convert them into that nanite sludge you mentioned in a prior post.

or

Allow us to generate keys with a new subsystem in our warbarge.


Something else besides accumulate in our assets and make that stupid little orange circle persist forever.

On the note of stupid Circles that persist forever the booster and character augmentation ones need to go. There is nothing there that needs my attention, I don't have anything wrong on that tab and no, after the first 2.5 years (estimate) I won't use boosters any more. I pay for a service that service should improve.

Because at one point in time they had a menu and I continued to eat because I was optimistic on what gourmet meals the chef had to offer. Now we're both just sitting here drinking stale coffee being force fed leftovers from last week's buffet

You do realize Aeon Amadi only trolls players till they agree with her right? I see what you are saying and it is spot on. Yeah I know Aeon is a CPM.

Agreed. The orange circle is a psychological ploy aimed at triggering that innate "I must check all the boxes!" desire some gamers have.

I'm fine with the 24 hour reminder, but after viewing the augmentations page the circle should disappear until my boosters once again have less than 24 hours remaining.

Aeon is a dude and not a CPM officer.

I have heard so many complaints regarding recent monetization efforts on CCP's part. It appears that in Warlords 1.0 CCP will be adding even more avenues to extract our money from us.

The Augmented Ammunition Facility provides an up to 5% damage bonus flat. Like a damage mod, but without the slot useage, CPU/PG, or ISK loss. Experimental weapons will also make their debut in this expansion. These weapons are superior to proto weaponry in damage, clip size, ammo capacity, and reload speeds.

These subsystems can be purchased with AUR from the market, but can also be crafted with Construction Components. Since they can be obtained via in-game currency they are not P2W, but they flirt with the idea.

Let's not rehash the key/strongboxes "feature". It causes me physical pain every time one of my missions just rewards me with 15 Encrypted Strongboxes.

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CCP Rattati, Rouge, and team,

Please stop this nonsense. Monetization is one thing, but this is becoming a real problem. I get that you must make money on Dust 514. I do. What you are setting a precedent for is that every feature, every new addition to Dust, will ask more aurum of us.

If you improve Dust 514 with optimization, adding new features, iterate on balance, etc. you will notice aurum sales increase as players invite other players and the word spreads of this quality game. You have plenty of ways to make money off of Dust 514 in game already!

Please don't insult us with this rampant monetization. It's disrespectful and a part of you knows it too. Stop it before it's too late.

Last time I made a thread asking to deal with the real problems of this game (hit detection, lag issues), I mentionnened the fact that the reason why CCP wasn't fixing them was because it would be a hard work that could not be monetize in any way. It was just a thought I had. And one of the CPM (can't remember who) told me that it was "nonsense".