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bolsh lee
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Posted - 2015.01.28 01:41:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:K Glad we could work that out.
I didn't expect much when I seen a blue tag on this post Rattati will seemingly do what he wants and the CPM will continue to make excuses..
Keep giving people that have a valid complaint the cold shoulder Rattati and see where that gets the dwindling community you claim you care about... |
bolsh lee
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Posted - 2015.01.28 02:01:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:K Glad we could work that out. Riley bud, i usually back up most of what you're saying, but this time you're refusing to accept the answer. The reasons have been mentioned a few times, and by a few different CPMs. I know it wasn't Ratattis word, but its the truth. Rat's being curt because this is a done, non negotiating issue. It sucks but it is what it is. Damn that's depressing. Just make a PS4 port! Please for the love of everything holy give this game it's deserved 10 years.
This is what I think the majority of us vets are so upset over..
Regardless of the complaint, we complain because we know Dust could be 10x better then where it's heading. Sure these are neat additions but it's not the vision we all had and we think CCP had at the start of this ride.
If Rattati and team just want to turn this into a temporary cash shop before the big dog Legion is released (if even) then let us know or give us some news on Legion. But with very little transparency on where Dust is going besides into your back pocket it's hard not to complain about trivial content but massive cash grab updates.. |
bolsh lee
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Posted - 2015.01.28 03:35:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:
Rattati seems tho think he is "one of the guys." He is not.
He is an employee of the company which makes this game and like it or not, is the de facto liaison and voice of CCP to this community.
Simply typing "No" sans punctuation makes it clear to anyone with a brain what his meaning is.
You seem to think that Game Developers and their Consumers are like some Government Entity and the People where the govenrment is going to paid whether the people are happy or not. It's anything but. They're people as well, they have families to feed and dinner ot put on the table whether you like it or not, and a lot of them genuinely have the best interests of their consumers in mind -BECAUSE- they don't gain anything from it unless our best interests are met. This isn't some "hurrr he's the representative of his entire company and HIS COMAPNY IS DEH DEVIL" it's a dude trying to do his job and is upfront with his clients when something can't be done. It doesn't need some long drawn out explanation, it doesn't require some shy/apprehensive apology where the dude is terrified of the consequences of being real with you. This isn't some "I don't mean to be disrespectful, and I apologize, but we really... can't... do it... I hope you understand but if you don't I'll totally recant my statement and get RIGHT ON THAT." Dude said no. That's the final word on it. No. If you can't deal with that and you need some petty explanation or apologetic letter with a long drawn out explanation then you're in the -WRONG- field bro. Need to be on the front-lines of some feminist protest or something.
I have to disagree Aeon
Its pretty simple.. He, as in Ratatti, is a face of the company expecting money (Seriously expecting money with this update) from us the customers of his company, since he works for said company we are investing in... There is something called humility and when you're a public figure for any business it's best to practice it more so then not.
The nature of using a "No" for a reply to a thread can be relative depending on the nature of the thread or comment. In this case it was basically a spit in the face to the people concerned over the current state of micro transactions..
If I as a customer ordered food and my food came out wrong, when I asked for it to be corrected and the waitress simply said "NO" and walked away.. Anyone would flip ****, post multiple bad reviews on every social media outlet available and never return to that restaurant again.
But if the lady apologized and explained why my food was messed up and that it couldn't be corrected because they were out of olives I would probably be ok with that and understanding about the situation..
In a respectable business model that company would of told me "No" they are out of olives when I ordered the dish this is something CCP doesn't do. They expect us to keep eating regardless of whats in it or where it came from... |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.01.28 04:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Uhm the restaurant example is all wrong.
The customer asked for fish
The restaurant said no; we only serve stake because we have nobody to cook the fish.
I said the restaurant should tell it's customer what it had or didn't have before hand..
Unfortunately the restaurant CCP runs doesn't even have a menu or positive reviews for that matter to suggest otherwise.. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.01.28 05:03:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:[
The hilarious part is when I was up here fighting for an explanation for every little thing, not a single one of you kittens were up there with me. Things like asking for updates on Project Legion, further transparency on long-term goals and what not. Where were you when no-one was saying anything? What about the olives then, eh?
But no, when it comes to 'Quafe' suits (changing color values on shaders, relatively simple) versus full on brand new weapon design (requiring an entire team to work at) you guys are the first ones to jump and call foul, pandering to this ideal that somehow a dude simply saying 'no' is some great overarching biblical sign that he's a kitten-hole.
Kittening priorities, man.
Pretty sure I was with you on all of that if I wasn't it was because that was my time I spent away from the forums and game but due to lack of transparency on those issues the current has gotten worse...
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bolsh lee
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Posted - 2015.01.28 05:09:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Uhm the restaurant example is all wrong.
The customer asked for fish
The restaurant said no; we only serve stake because we have nobody to cook the fish. I said the restaurant should tell it's customer what it had or didn't have before hand.. Unfortunately the restaurant CCP runs doesn't even have a menu or positive reviews for that matter to suggest otherwise.. And yet, here you are, complaining about the service.
Because at one point in time they had a menu and I continued to eat because I was optimistic on what gourmet meals the chef had to offer. Know we're both just sitting here drinking stale coffee waiting for the chef to warm up left overs from last week's buffet
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