Warbarge component availability is really no different than SP boosters: Earn them in game, or pay to get them faster.

I'd say that yes, every new game feature should have a completely optional monetization aspect that carries no benefit than allowing you to access things faster. Because that means the game can make money without having to entertain really awful ideas that are distinctly pay-to-win. If you do not want the monetization component, do not buy the things, and it does not affect you, because it is not pay-to-win.

There are improvements every release that do not involve monetization at all.

Warbarge component availability is really no different than SP boosters: Earn them in game, or pay to get them faster.

I'd say that yes, every new game feature should have a completely optional monetization aspect that carries no benefit than allowing you to access things faster. Because that means the game can make money without having to entertain really awful ideas that are distinctly pay-to-win. If you do not want the monetization component, do not buy the things, and it does not affect you, because it is not pay-to-win.

There are improvements every release that do not involve monetization at all.

If you want this game to continue, they have to make money.

it is that simple. You don't start a business just to make friends.

Sell prices were kept obscenely low so that people felt compelled to buy jara. If jara and loyalty rank weren't a thing I'm sure the sell percentage would be something reasonable, like 50.

And they comprise a much shorter list. It is very clear which features got more attention during development: the ones that can drive aurum sales.

Incorrect. Most MMOs vendor sellback rate is around 25%. There is no way, shape, or form that CCP would've set the sellback rate at 50.

Also false. It's actually very hard to gauge the dev time required for certain things based on how significant they seem in the patch notes.

It doesn't make your accomplishments feel just a bit hollow when you know someone can effectively buy a subsystem that you spend weeks building?

It doesn't breaking your immersion when you get awarded hundreds of strongboxes every day?

C'mon Soraya. This is getting ridiculous.

And they comprise a much shorter list. It is very clear which features got more attention during development: the ones that can drive aurum sales.

There are already dozens of ways for CCP to make money from us without having to add in more every patch.

We are happy to receive any investment in time you make into this game.. We love your content.. There may be opinions on how the content should work.. But in short we all love it.. There is barely ever a credible complaint to the quality of content that you provide us.

I'd guess you played "most mmos" then and surveyed the exact number. Lel.

How can you claim something is false without being able to gauge it?

This just in: If DUST doesn't make money, it will die.

I'm all for more ways of DUST making money. I want it to live.

Sure, I dream about full 30 FPS PC battles in my sleep. I rage about getting stuck on the smallest of steps. I'm sick of high-ping players killing me around corners.....but if CCP wants to figure out new ways to allow us to support their game, I'm all for it.

Everything available for AUR is also available through in-game currency. Using AUR is just a means of acquiring it faster.

Also, monetizion is good. It allows us to keep on receiving content. This game is a free to download, free to play, free to make in-game purchases with in-game money.

A player with 0 AUR can and will be able to achieve anything than what a player using only AUR gear can. Only thing I can think of is the option to respec and Kumora.

We like your content CCP. Improve the game's overall performance and we will evangelize your game everywhere.

Stop injecting new monetization into every single update and fix.

CCP is well aware that an outright "better game" also equals money (and happy players). This isn't a rocket science thought here, Ripley, I hope you're aware. ;)

But you can't "just fix it" something. Not releasing more Quafe things would not equal more fixes for the game, nor would not adding the ability to buy components. The programmers have worked on some key issues this patch, with SP changes, fixes for vehicle glitches like the MCRU bug and the glitch with falling through the map, and not bringing players into completed matches. There is a lot of stuff to fix and a limited number of people to fix it. And there's other sought-after things the devs are working on as well.

I have heard so many complaints regarding recent monetization efforts on CCP's part. It appears that in Warlords 1.0 CCP will be adding even more avenues to extract our money from us.

The Augmented Ammunition Facility provides an up to 5% damage bonus flat. Like a damage mod, but without the slot useage, CPU/PG, or ISK loss. Experimental weapons will also make their debut in this expansion. These weapons are superior to proto weaponry in damage, clip size, ammo capacity, and reload speeds.

These subsystems can be purchased with AUR from the market, but can also be crafted with Construction Components. Since they can be obtained via in-game currency they are not P2W, but they flirt with the idea.

Let's not rehash the key/strongboxes "feature". It causes me physical pain every time one of my missions just rewards me with 15 Encrypted Strongboxes.

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CCP Rattati, Rouge, and team,

Please stop this nonsense. Monetization is one thing, but this is becoming a real problem. I get that you must make money on Dust 514. I do. What you are setting a precedent for is that every feature, every new addition to Dust, will ask more aurum of us.

If you improve Dust 514 with optimization, adding new features, iterate on balance, etc. you will notice aurum sales increase as players invite other players and the word spreads of this quality game. You have plenty of ways to make money off of Dust 514 in game already!

Please don't insult us with this rampant monetization. It's disrespectful and a part of you knows it too. Stop it before it's too late.

Again...

THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT FOR P2W vs. F2P. It never was.

This is about every feature in this game being another source of aurum income for CCP.

I'm not seeing your point here. Yes, it's expensive. It's also worth it to have a game that runs at a steady 30+ FPS with acceptable levels of lag.

CCP does not appear to be or one of the features of Warlords 1.0 would be: Framerate improvements and general optimizations.

Couldn't the time spent on 'Quafe' things be spent on developing art assets for the missing weapons? How about the missing vehicles? That's just one example.

Let's not rehash the key/strongboxes "feature". It causes me physical pain every time one of my missions just rewards me with 15 Encrypted Strongboxes.

When the Combat Rifle came out, so did the AUR variants. Same thing is happening with what's coming out now.

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They monetize so they can continue to eat food and live in houses.

This game is doing monetization right, since you can get versions of any monetized item through non-monetized means.

If you dont want to give CCP money for all the stuff they work on, then dont do it. Sure, you wont have a shiny pink STD BPO dropsuit or whatever, but you can buy one that does the exact same thing for ISK.

Actually, it is. You're just cleverly disguising it without even knowing it. Those new features will be available for everyone, AUR or not. When there are new features, there will be AUR. You know this, as well as I and everyone else does.

When the Combat Rifle came out, so did the AUR variants. Same thing is happening with what's coming out now.