Welp



I did find some interesting things that look like they tweak turret AI, so it seams installations use the turrets types for stats. Nifty. Other stuff too like overlay colors/alpha/positions. Attack/Defend order score bonus radius. Draw distances, even WP rewards. Soo much stuff CCP can easily tweak.

any chance you can find projectile velocities for Missile Turrets, Forge Guns, and Large Railguns? oh, and swarm launchers

I actually have my tool for analyzing export data running at the moment looking for changes in between recent hotfixes.

I'll edit this post with any findings with velocities

e: Having the same issues when the SDE first came out, where types don't list the entities they use for projectiles.

Dumping a list of all things in the Entity class for anything of value.

I disagree on the range of swarms. I believe it's a rate of fire problem.

They would be easier to balance around average flight time to target with the time it takes to travel the full 200m being the refire delay time.

This would allow the longer lock ranges Without having vehicles hhammered by three shots in under 3.5 seconds.

That ungodly DPS rate needs to be slowed.

I'll look again. Roughly 450 attributes and nothing that I found pertaining to that.

If it's hardcoded, i hope they (CCP) used a constant. If they used code conventions you'll see a constant (ALL CAPS) at declaration.

Haven't read the whole thread yet but I want to talk about doing something to the standard forge variant to give people a reason to use it over assault. I was thinking maybe let people actually store a charge without holding r1? Faster projectile speed? Something, I dunno.

The assault forge gun should be weaker than the standard version. I understand it's not a big difference but... It's an assault weapon (lower damage, higher rof) it shouldn't be both stronger and quicker charge.

That's just a thought though.

Actually I wanted to set the alpha strike of the standard directly between the breach and assault.

I disagree on the range of swarms. I believe it's a rate of fire problem.

They would be easier to balance around average flight time to target with the time it takes to travel the full 200m being the refire delay time.

This would allow the longer lock ranges Without having vehicles hhammered by three shots in under 3.5 seconds.

That ungodly DPS rate needs to be slowed.

Works out.
In the sense of stronger tanks, does that mean stronger dropships? in the sense of slots, ehp or both?

To clarify, the data I'm getting is from a serialized Python object which I used CCP's internal script which ships with DUST for whatever reason which is modified to export everything to the SDE instead of just what they want to export.

I then use the database file with my custom tool to get attributes easier.

As for the stuff with projectile velocities, I gave up after letting it run for 2000 individual entities to try to find the typeID. When I get time, I'll re-write the method to make it faster and more memory efficient.

I disagree on the range of swarms. I believe it's a rate of fire problem.

They would be easier to balance around average flight time to target with the time it takes to travel the full 200m being the refire delay time.

This would allow the longer lock ranges Without having vehicles hhammered by three shots in under 3.5 seconds.

That ungodly DPS rate needs to be slowed.

Somebody break out a stopwatch and a youtube clip, I've ran swarms since closed beta and I've not been able to fire swarms that fast since pre 1.7..... when did this happen? Because when I fire, at all maxed swarm skills, it's nearly 2 seconds just to lock, then you have to wait about 1.5 seconds before you can lock again. If you press the lock button again too fast it does nothing.

You know I've been behind you on AV since we used to bash balance over Mr. Zitro's head daily, but 3 shots in under 3.5 seconds? ....lets just say I've personally not managed that stat on the best of days.... Do you have a video of this feat?

Ok 3.15 exactly according to the math with level 5 swarms. The weird little shot delay at the back end of the PLC was apparently removed from swarms.

It's a full second delay on the forge hilariously

Does the math include the time you are releasing a volley and the down time it takes before you can make a lock again?

I trust your math, but I'm not sure it's all inclusive. I will be testing this later just to be sure.

more please?

"mEjectHorizontalAngle": 16384,
"mEjectVerticalAngle": 5000,

Opened DB with version debug
Name: 'prj_swarmlauncher_std' | 353038
{
"typeId": 353038,
"typeName": "prj_swarmlauncher_std",
"attributes": {
"NetCullDistanceSquared": 2.5e+09,
"mArcHeight.0": 1000,
"mArcHeight.1": 1000,
"mArmDelay": 0,
"mBounces": 0,
"mConstantTrackingTimer": 0.2,
"mDispertionAngle.0": 0,
"mDispertionAngle.1": 0,
"mEjectVelocity": 40,
"mFlightVfxParameter.floatValue": 0,
"mIgnitionTriggerDistance": 30000,
"mKillRange": 500,
"mLaunchLength.0": 10,
"mLaunchLength.1": 10,
"mMaxRotationSpeed": 12743,
"mMeshScale": 0.5,
"mMissileKillRange": 100,
"mPathMode.0": 1,
"mPathMode.1": 1,
"mProjProp.accelRate": 1200,
"mProjProp.damageDecay": 10,
"mProjProp.damageRadius": 100,
"mProjProp.damageType": 351771,
"mProjProp.directHitDamage": 260,
"mProjProp.explodeByTouch": "True",
"mProjProp.explosionMomentum": 500,
"mProjProp.explosionType": 354592,
"mProjProp.gravityScale": 0,
"mProjProp.initSpeed": 500,
"mProjProp.maxRange": 40000,
"mProjProp.maxSpeed": 6500,
"mProjProp.minimumDamage": 0,
"mProjProp.occludedSplashDamage": "True",
"mProjProp.projectileLifeSpan": 9,
"mProjProp.splashDamage": 19,
"mProjProp.splashDamageType": 351772,
"mRandomModPercent.0": 0.1,
"mRandomModPercent.1": 0.1,
"mSounds.0.isDummyOneShot": "False",
"mSounds.0.isLocal": "False",
"mSounds.1.isDummyOneShot": "False",
"mSounds.1.isLocal": "False",
"mSounds.2.isDummyOneShot": "False",
"mSounds.2.isLocal": "False",
"mSpeedAfterIgnition": 6000,
"mSpiralFactor.0": 0.5,
"mSpiralFactor.1": 0.1,
"mSplashDamage.curveIndex": 0,
"mSplashDamage.m_fMultiplier": 1,
"mSplashDamage.m_fOffset": 0,
"mSplashDamage.maxInValue": 1,
"mSpread.0": 1000,
"mSpread.1": 1000,
"mTeleportingTime": 5,
"mTracing": "True",
"mTrackDelay": 0.8,
"mTrackTurningSpeed.0": 800,
"mTrackTurningSpeed.1": 800,
"tag.0": 353512,
"tag.1": 354887
}
}

The assault swarm launcher is pointless, and should be given a different buff instead of locking on to multiple targets. There is never a need to half your DPS. Instead a faster lock on, or a longer lock on range would be appreciated.