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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:07:00 -
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It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
18205
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:08:00 -
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They're not combat cloaks
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
824
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:10:00 -
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Last I checked we use them in combat so, yeah they are combat cloaks. Cloak delay was only added because everyone has been beating around the bush because the issue is the shotgun. Funny how all the other weapons took the delay hit yet the shotgun can still get two salvos off before the suit comes out of cloak. Go be irrelevant somewhere else IWS.
<-- does not run cloak anymore, it's completely useless.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
6983
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
ouch
Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
3046
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:14:00 -
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I actually like it. It does mean that the Cloak is not just a free lunch anymore. Before you were nigh-invisible and could fight just as fast as anyone else. I haven't found it to be too detrimental when I am playing Scout, though I do use the Assault Rail Rifle and have a tendency to fight at range.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
343
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:15:00 -
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Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive.
[38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
824
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:15:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive.
Pretty much this.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4536
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:18:00 -
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Umm.. I typically only use my cloak for long-distance running between objectives. If you're being spotted too many times, it means that you aren't taking a Scout approach to your play style and are also relying on the cloak too much for assaulting purposes.
If you're cloaked and being shot at, disengage and run for it. Don't even attempt to fight back unless you can secure the kill with one-hit from either a knife or shotgun. Attack from the flanks or from behind, and do so when your enemies have their attention on someone else.
Nova knives become a hassle to use with a cloak, so I make sure to use my suit's inherent speed and low scan profile bonuses to traverse ground away from direct combat: always taking the paths that are unoccupied. |
Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
1
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:19:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7038
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:20:00 -
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I think that if they are going to keep the delay, they need to make the cloak truly invisible so you can't be seen while running or anything else.
I do think it is BS that we can still be spotted while cloaked, and have to wait several seconds before we can retaliate, all the while at a significant HP disadvantage.
I also stopped running cloak. Its just not worth it anymore.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:21:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
HAHAHA!!!! LMFAO |
Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
826
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:22:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you
He was just saying to switch to kin cats, not attacking you.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
344
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:27:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you
Bold statement. Want to have a Minja duel to prove your claims?
[38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
826
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:30:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you Bold statement. Want to have a Minja duel to prove your claims?
Yeah let's see who can press r1 first
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
346
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:32:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:He was just saying to switch to kin cats, not attacking you.
This too.
I only come to the forums to discuss game balance, joke around, share advice, etc.. Starting crap and attacking people's character is not something I enjoy.
[38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1686
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:33:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote: And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive.
XD
TLDR : Last Dust Montage
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
346
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:36:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Yeah let's see who can press r1 first
Using a suit with the highest walking speed, it can be pretty exciting.
"Come at me bro" "You first" "I'm totally open"
Fake outs ensue until someone lunges.
[38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
1
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:36:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you Bold statement. Want to have a Minja duel to prove your claims? All I have to say is what do you want on your head stone & I accept just add me & contact me we you feel like getting kill no ISK needed. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7038
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:39:00 -
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That is a lot of talk for someone that I haven't heard of before under this name.
Perhaps you have a better known moniker?
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
2419
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:41:00 -
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Not if you've mastered the
*come out of cloak as you swing around your opponent manuever*
Allows you to come out of cloak at your opponent flank to charged Nova Knife slash.
Its a move you have to do in one fluid motion then recloaking and running of cause the heavy immediately realized his Logis been ganked.
But, usually best to use when hunting snipers/open terrian and if you like the sound reduction (my favorite)
Sudes nothing cooler then coming out of cloak, slowly pulling out your TY-5, headshoting a guy, then walk away badassly while cloaking up.
Not a combat cloak, but can be for targets who've wondered of or that guy trailing behind the pack.
I run cloak in PC and to test if its really useful for X fitting. Relying on it will get you consistently ganked.
Wish i could play, PS3 acting up this is not cool! So actually completing other games story.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz/Protofits Silent Chaozz
Non-Cloak Lone Wolf Scout GLF Gk.0
2COM SH 2COM PD 2COM KC DSSG BSMG F/45
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
1
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:42:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:That is a lot of talk for someone that I haven't heard of before under this name.
Perhaps you have a better known moniker?
Just ask about me & I never heard of you either plus I been on this game longer then you think. So don't hate me cause I'm good love me because of that! |
Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1546
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:45:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. Negative. |
Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
826
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:46:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. Right on.
Nobody enjoys cloaking anymore.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
1
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:47:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Not if you've mastered the
*come out of cloak as you swing around your opponent manuever*
Allows you to come out of cloak at your opponent flank to charged Nova Knife slash.
Its a move you have to do in one fluid motion then recloaking and running of cause the heavy immediately realized his Logis been ganked.
But, usually best to use when hunting snipers/open terrian and if you like the sound reduction (my favorite)
Sudes nothing cooler then coming out of cloak, slowly pulling out your TY-5, headshoting a guy, then walk away badassly while cloaking up.
Not a combat cloak, but can be for targets who've wondered of or that guy trailing behind the pack.
I run cloak in PC and to test if its really useful for X fitting. Relying on it will get you consistently ganked.
Wish i could play, PS3 acting up this is not cool! So actually completing other games story.
Please don't get me wrong I can play with the cloak but it still take to long to come out the cloak & thats that. |
TritusX
PH4NT0M5
87
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:49:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. but i wasnt?????
Minja and Minlogi at your service
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Zindorak
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
1587
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:49:00 -
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Sure i'd like a scout/cloak buff
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Give me da iskiez
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
347
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:51:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:All I have to say is what do you want on your head stone & I accept just add me & contact me we you feel like getting kill no ISK needed.
I want it to say: "Here lies Sergeant Sazu (who wasn't really a sergeant), who got cocky and therefore rekt."
That is, unless I go Kaio Ken at over 10m/s into your face while swinging a pair of Ishukones all over the place.
I have a mic and a channel if you want to be on comms while we do this.
5 million ISK to the winner, decided by most kills on the other? :)
[38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:54:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:All I have to say is what do you want on your head stone & I accept just add me & contact me we you feel like getting kill no ISK needed. I want it to say: "Here lies Sergeant Sazu (who wasn't really a sergeant), who got cocky and therefore rekt." That is, unless I go Kaio Ken at over 10m/s into your face while swinging a pair of Ishukones all over the place. I have a mic and a channel if you want to be on comms while we do this. 5 million ISK to the winner, decided by most kills on the other? :)
YES! A DUEL!, Hey any chance you can stream that? lol |
Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1546
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:55:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote: Nobody enjoys cloaking anymore.
Decloak delay is a pain, but it (1) prevents fire from cloak, (2) encourages planning in advance and (3) discourages use in hamfisted frontal assault and (4) penalizes gettng caught in the open. These are all good things.
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
1
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:57:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:All I have to say is what do you want on your head stone & I accept just add me & contact me we you feel like getting kill no ISK needed. I want it to say: "Here lies Sergeant Sazu (who wasn't really a sergeant), who got cocky and therefore rekt." That is, unless I go Kaio Ken at over 10m/s into your face while swinging a pair of Ishukones all over the place. I have a mic and a channel if you want to be on comms while we do this. 5 million ISK to the winner, decided by most kills on the other? :) Stop talking & let te battle field do the talking! Like I said you can add me & when I'm on we can arrange you death k. |
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
349
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:01:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:YES! A DUEL!, Hey any chance you can stream that? lol
I don't have the software, equipment, or knowledge for streaming.
This isn't that big of a deal anyway. Just a friendly duel.
[38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7040
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:04:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote: Nobody enjoys cloaking anymore.
Decloak delay is a pain, but it (1) prevents fire from cloak, (2) encourages planning in advance and (3) discourages use in hamfisted frontal assault and (4) penalizes gettng caught in the open. These are all good things. The delay mechanics could be improved upon, as could other aspects of cloak (namely shimmer, uselessness in dark moods, etc), but the delay should remain. Disagree with 4.
When you are redlined, and the reds know where you are coming from, and all you want to do is get past the front lines and do something/anything. Its quite frustrating to be actually making an effort with so many things working against you.
The whole point of the cloak as it is now is to cross open spaces. If it can't even do that, its worthless.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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K-B-K
EVE'S Best
1
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:04:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:YES! A DUEL!, Hey any chance you can stream that? lol I don't have the software, equipment, or knowledge for streaming. This isn't that big of a deal anyway. Just a friendly duel. What's your motive for a duel?
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:05:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:YES! A DUEL!, Hey any chance you can stream that? lol I don't have the software, equipment, or knowledge for streaming. This isn't that big of a deal anyway. Just a friendly duel.
Are any bets currently being made anywhere? If so I want in!, lol just playin, good luck guys
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1060
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:07:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you
Wut?
But seriously if your problem is not being able to run into a fight and decloak for immediate carnage, go play mys and learn how to not get spotted..
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
1
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:08:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:YES! A DUEL!, Hey any chance you can stream that? lol I don't have the software, equipment, or knowledge for streaming. This isn't that big of a deal anyway. Just a friendly duel.
5 mill is not friendly sir! For fun is! :) |
Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
828
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:12:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you Wut? But seriously if your problem is not being able to run into a fight and decloak for immediate carnage, go play mgs and learn how to not get spotted..
Yeah that 3rd person pve stealth game will help your dust game out a lot
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1551
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:14:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote: Nobody enjoys cloaking anymore.
Decloak delay is a pain, but it (1) prevents fire from cloak, (2) encourages planning in advance and (3) discourages use in hamfisted frontal assault and (4) penalizes gettng caught in the open. These are all good things. The delay mechanics could be improved upon, as could other aspects of cloak (namely shimmer, uselessness in dark moods, etc), but the delay should remain. Disagree with 4. When you are redlined, and the reds know where you are coming from, and all you want to do is get past the front lines and do something/anything, its quite frustrating. The whole point of the cloak as it is now is to cross open spaces. If it can't even do that, its worthless.
Agreed. I believe it safe to improve upon shimmer given the current state of cloak. This may help to solve the problem you've described. Though we should be careful to prevent cloak from becoming a "slayer aid" again. |
Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1060
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:16:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you Wut? But seriously if your problem is not being able to run into a fight and decloak for immediate carnage, go play mgs and learn how to not get spotted.. Yeah that 3rd person pve stealth game will help your dust game out a lot
It should teach you that running out in the open even cloaked will get you spotted and therefore shot, smart guy.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
828
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:17:00 -
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That wasn't the problem if you'd bother to read OP instead of coming in with your cookie cutter "HTFU' dis, smart guy.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
687
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:20:00 -
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We just got out of the cloak dependent scout crap. We're not going back.
Boycott Black Thursday!
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1060
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:20:00 -
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I read the op, and it wasnt a htfu corny whatever the f ever, it was more of a cloaks arent intended to be a free pass into combat face first so complaints about the fact that you get spotted and therefore shot should really have you reflecting on why you're getting spotted. And therefore shot. Smart. Guy.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition Red Whines.
130
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:20:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
It is way better if you just forget the cloack, it is completely useless in combat now, I redesigned all my scout fittings removing it because I kill with scouts in time to time, and believe me, using the cloack to even hide, sux. If u have an excellent eye is really easy to kill cloaked scouts... So just forget the cloack, it is useless. In my opinion.
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
3
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:22:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:That wasn't the problem if you'd bother to read OP instead of coming in with your cookie cutter "HTFU' dis, smart guy.
Right!!! |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9273
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:24:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. Don't get speed in cloak then?
I haven't played much since 1.9, but wheni did I bought a respec and skilled purely into the Amarr scout, no other suit, because **** it that's the vision I was sold on when I first heard about the game in 2009, highly specialized players each with their own role, not all capable super soldiers. Anyways I started playing a bit again lately, not sure of all the things that were changed, but scout play had been incredibly fun and rewarding for me. Only thing I'm not too sure about is the scan ranges and precision and all that jazz. The cloak itself feels great. Just my opinion which surely means nothing, but +1 in favor of current cloak decloak times.
Amarr are the good guys
Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9273
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:29:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Last I checked we use them in combat so, yeah they are combat cloaks. Cloak delay was only added because everyone has been beating around the bush because the issue is the shotgun. Funny how all the other weapons took the delay hit yet the shotgun can still get two salvos off before the suit comes out of cloak. Go be irrelevant somewhere else IWS.
<-- does not run cloak anymore, it's completely useless. all I've been doing is pubs and fw so my opinion may not count, but I've used the cloak to run past enemies whip may of otherwise scanned me down or seen me running across the field, as well as helping dodge bullets when trying to run from a fight by virtue of slightly hindering the enemies sight. Not completely useless.
Amarr are the good guys
Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
515
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Posted - 2015.01.08 03:32:00 -
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I'll sit on the fence & watch this. The cloak always felt like a gimic to begin with, but now it just pointless.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3418
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Posted - 2015.01.08 04:29:00 -
[48] - Quote
IDC about the cloak, my beef is that our entire racial bonus is to this game's worst piece of equipment.
Id rather fit a standard active scanner than a prototype cloak field.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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iBone YourMom
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.01.08 05:21:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
guess that serves you right! listen to what you're saying Head... complaining how fast your guns come out when you're SNEAKING UP on someone UNdetected and get kills when no one can fight back!! And have the Nerve to use the word FAIR?! Jerk.
I like Crack...
Your Moms...
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Union118
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
174
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Posted - 2015.01.08 05:26:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. Cry about it. Your a scout not a assault go do your job and hack stuff place links down or whatever else shouts should do. If you see someone and you plan to ambush someone your gun should be out and you should be uncloacked to begin with.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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The Infected One
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1409
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Posted - 2015.01.08 05:32:00 -
[51] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
Minja here. You do not speak for all scouts. I love the cloak, I use it as it is intended. For crossing open areas, and sneaking through the Caldari large socket maze, and whatnot. I still manage to do my job effectively. Learn to use it as its intended, and not as a straight up combat cloak.
We already suffered with the super short cloak delay with the shotty/cloak insta gank. Its working as intended.
I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS?
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
6
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Posted - 2015.01.08 05:37:00 -
[52] - Quote
iBone YourMom wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. guess that serves you right! listen to what you're saying Head... complaining how fast your guns come out when you're SNEAKING UP on someone UNdetected and get kills when no one can fight back!! And have the Nerve to use the word FAIR?! Jerk.
So I guess you using a long range weapon on a shotgun scout is fair I think not ****. |
Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
6
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Posted - 2015.01.08 05:42:00 -
[53] - Quote
The Infected One wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. Minja here. You do not speak for all scouts. I love the cloak, I use it as it is intended. For crossing open areas, and sneaking through the Caldari large socket maze, and whatnot. I still manage to do my job effectively. Learn to use it as its intended, and not as a straight up combat cloak. We already suffered with the super short cloak delay with the shotty/cloak insta gank. Its working as intended.
I can use the cloak ho I like so plus I'm good with it but the delay is not good k. |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2945
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Posted - 2015.01.08 05:44:00 -
[54] - Quote
Haha priceless, I knew this was coming when they first introduced cloaks, I did warn people to appreciate the suit and not the fancy cloaking gadget.
Honestly there is nothing wrong with that they did to cloaks. In my opinion its fine.
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2844
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Posted - 2015.01.08 05:58:00 -
[55] - Quote
Dear OP,
Two points:
#1: You're not that good.
#2: Speak for yourself, not other scouts -- particularly those who appreciate balance.
Toodles.....Leadfoot |
iBone YourMom
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2015.01.08 06:28:00 -
[56] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:The Infected One wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. Minja here. You do not speak for all scouts. I love the cloak, I use it as it is intended. For crossing open areas, and sneaking through the Caldari large socket maze, and whatnot. I still manage to do my job effectively. Learn to use it as its intended, and not as a straight up combat cloak. We already suffered with the super short cloak delay with the shotty/cloak insta gank. Its working as intended. I can use the cloak ho I like so plus I'm good with it but the delay is not good k.
Well Miss Hell Woman its like this.... when in battle, blue gets ya thru, and red gets ya dead. So it doesn't matter if you look like a big SOB or sparkly lil fairy dancing thru the grass amongst the hilltops... yo ass IS gettin RED DOTTED. BOOM.
I like Crack...
Your Moms...
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3694
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Posted - 2015.01.08 06:52:00 -
[57] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
Wait...so you use a cloak to sneak up on people and you need more time to sneak up and shoot them in the back?
Cloak is more manageable now...best it ever has been.
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
> Check RND out here
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10694
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:12:00 -
[58] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
You don't speak for me. I'm a veteran scout since closed beta who has every racial scout suit and whose primary weapon is a pair of nova knives. I never needed the cloak to kill anyone. I only use the cloak for covert infiltration and escape. I never use it to enhance my killing ability.
The cloak is fair to me where it is. The cloak delay is to ensure that cloaky shotgunners won't continue to abuse the cloak and thus no longer be able to instantly blap someone immediately from decloaking or -- in some cases due to previous bugs -- while still cloaked. Of course, I think the shimmer is somewhat too bright but I can mask that shimmer with the right terrain.
It was never designed to allow a scout to confront someone head on from the front and survive every time like how it once happened with shotgun scouts. It's primarily a flanking tool.
Use the terrain to mask your cloak. The blue shimmer can be hidden well enough if the terrain doesn't contrast against the shimmer while moving. Avoid running around shaded areas to minimize being caught. If I have to go through dark areas, I use my suit's sprint speed and/or stamina to get through while bobbing and weaving between objects to maintain cover. A dark proto scout can hide well in the shade compared to a blue cloak shimmer which doesn't hide so well in the shade. Worked for me so far.
Decloak behind cover and proceed after checking your corners to attack. Make sure to decloak far enough so they don't hear you decloak. That decloak sound is loud you know. Besides, by the time you get to them the decloak delay will be done and you'll be ready to kill by the time you get to your target. Worked for me so far.
Protip (not really related to cloak). The natural terrain seems to have some kind of effect on the TACNET. You can see a redberry through structures in the TACNET, but for some reason you can't see them through a boulder. Use that to help mask your profile while getting close to them. Remember, if you can't see them because of a rock, they can't see you either. The terrain is great for luring in redberries so that their scan precision will be at a disadvantage against the terrain. Makes it easier to flank and jump them. Worked for me so far.
One more thing. If you get caught while cloaked, use cover and speed to escape. If you don't survive, oh well. That person happens to have good eyes. You can't do anything about it.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10694
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:17:00 -
[59] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:The Infected One wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. Minja here. You do not speak for all scouts. I love the cloak, I use it as it is intended. For crossing open areas, and sneaking through the Caldari large socket maze, and whatnot. I still manage to do my job effectively. Learn to use it as its intended, and not as a straight up combat cloak. We already suffered with the super short cloak delay with the shotty/cloak insta gank. Its working as intended. I can use the cloak ho I like so plus I'm good with it but the delay is not good k.
That's your opinion and only your opinion. In my humble opinion, it's good.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10694
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:20:00 -
[60] - Quote
Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:We just got out of the cloak dependent scout crap. We're not going back.
Exactly. I hate it when I see scouts be too dependent on the cloak thinking it can enhance their killing potential when in fact it's mainly a flanking tool for infiltration and escape.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10696
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:22:00 -
[61] - Quote
Alex-ZX wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. It is way better if you just forget the cloack, it is completely useless in combat now, I redesigned all my scout fittings removing it because I kill with scouts in time to time, and believe me, using the cloack to even hide, sux. If u have an excellent eye is really easy to kill cloaked scouts... So just forget the cloack, it is useless. In my opinion.
Not entirely true. It can help you hide and it's effective at that as long as you know how to use it. Smark cloakers survive better than dumb ones.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Omega Black Zero
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2015.01.08 12:20:00 -
[62] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you
Subjective opinion is subjective. |
Omega Black Zero
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2015.01.08 12:22:00 -
[63] - Quote
Reign Omega wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you Wut? But seriously if your problem is not being able to run into a fight and decloak for immediate carnage, go play mgs and learn how to not get spotted.. TSNE ftw Buddies of mine were wondering how I spotting all the cloaked scouts the week they released the cloak, my answer was TSNE I miss me some MGO |
Omega Black Zero
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2015.01.08 12:25:00 -
[64] - Quote
Stupid Blueberry wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you Wut? But seriously if your problem is not being able to run into a fight and decloak for immediate carnage, go play mgs and learn how to not get spotted.. Yeah that 3rd person pve stealth game will help your dust game out a lot Never got to play Metal Gear Online eh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4b_4QwnhbU |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1735
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Posted - 2015.01.08 13:04:00 -
[65] - Quote
you can still wreck people from behind with cloak + shotgun, mainly because decloak sound and footsteps are not played from source originating from behind you.
you just need more patience though |
noob cavman
And the ButtPirates
1970
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Posted - 2015.01.08 13:39:00 -
[66] - Quote
Rather have remotes on me. It's kinda convenient when they see you to give chase around corners.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
7
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Posted - 2015.01.08 20:05:00 -
[67] - Quote
Jack McReady wrote:you can still wreck people from behind with cloak + shotgun, mainly because decloak sound and footsteps are not played from source originating from behind you.
you just need more patience though
K |
2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
518
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Posted - 2015.01.08 20:20:00 -
[68] - Quote
Recently, i boiled my scout suits down to very basic terms. Kincats, dmg mods, light weapon. Ewar sucks now with these "rings of awareness" to the point it's not worth worrying about percision, range, damps or cloaks. I can usually sprint into range before my taget knows & sprint away before they can react.
Also been having fun trying to disrupt as many reds as possible while solo. I had an entire squad searching the hills for me. This is a very pleasurable experience, knowing 6 people are not participating in a battle just because 1 dipshit keeps annoying them.
The cloak may have a place for gal scouts who absolutly do not want to appear on tacnet, but it has very little value on pubs/gen pop. There are more rewardng ways to gimp yourself.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1131
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Posted - 2015.01.08 20:26:00 -
[69] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
Spotted? No problem. Run.
Please support fair play!
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
8
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Posted - 2015.01.10 23:52:00 -
[70] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:We just got out of the cloak dependent scout crap. We're not going back. Exactly. I hate it when I see scouts be too dependent on the cloak thinking it can enhance their killing potential when in fact it's mainly a flanking tool for infiltration and escape.
I hate when people talked about Scouts & don't know how too scout & just because I said what I said don't mean I depend on the cloak. |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10705
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Posted - 2015.01.11 00:15:00 -
[71] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:We just got out of the cloak dependent scout crap. We're not going back. Exactly. I hate it when I see scouts be too dependent on the cloak thinking it can enhance their killing potential when in fact it's mainly a flanking tool for infiltration and escape. I hate when people talked about Scouts & don't know how too scout & just because I said what I said don't mean I depend on the cloak.
If you don't depend on the cloak, then don't ask for buffs that make it too dependable. It's strictly an infiltration/escape tool. Nothing more.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Stryker Syx Vector
D3ATH CARD RUST415
62
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Posted - 2015.01.11 00:15:00 -
[72] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:We just got out of the cloak dependent scout crap. We're not going back. Exactly. I hate it when I see scouts be too dependent on the cloak thinking it can enhance their killing potential when in fact it's mainly a flanking tool for infiltration and escape. I hate when people talked about Scouts & don't know how too scout & just because I said what I said don't mean I depend on the cloak.
Sounds like you do depend on the cloak. Or else you wouldn't be trying to insta gank people with it. And you know. Actually scout. You know that infiltration/recon thing that SCOUTS are supposed to do.
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
9
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Posted - 2015.01.11 00:19:00 -
[73] - Quote
Stryker Syx Vector wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:We just got out of the cloak dependent scout crap. We're not going back. Exactly. I hate it when I see scouts be too dependent on the cloak thinking it can enhance their killing potential when in fact it's mainly a flanking tool for infiltration and escape. I hate when people talked about Scouts & don't know how too scout & just because I said what I said don't mean I depend on the cloak. Sounds like you do depend on the cloak. Or else you wouldn't be trying to insta gank people with it. And you know. Actually scout. You know that infiltration/recon thing that SCOUTS are supposed to do.
Your just scared of it tell the truth lmao!!!! |
Stryker Syx Vector
D3ATH CARD RUST415
63
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Posted - 2015.01.11 00:21:00 -
[74] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:Stryker Syx Vector wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:We just got out of the cloak dependent scout crap. We're not going back. Exactly. I hate it when I see scouts be too dependent on the cloak thinking it can enhance their killing potential when in fact it's mainly a flanking tool for infiltration and escape. I hate when people talked about Scouts & don't know how too scout & just because I said what I said don't mean I depend on the cloak. Sounds like you do depend on the cloak. Or else you wouldn't be trying to insta gank people with it. And you know. Actually scout. You know that infiltration/recon thing that SCOUTS are supposed to do. Your just scared of it tell the truth lmao!!!!
I think I just told the truth. Real scouts wouldn't come to the forum and ***** about a crutch that was abused heavily |
Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
9
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Posted - 2015.01.11 00:25:00 -
[75] - Quote
Yup your scared lol!!! |
Stryker Syx Vector
D3ATH CARD RUST415
63
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Posted - 2015.01.11 00:30:00 -
[76] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:Yup your scared lol!!!
That's all you can come up with? What are you 9 years old. Please. We all know you want the super scout era back. Just admit it. |
Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
9
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Posted - 2015.01.11 01:16:00 -
[77] - Quote
Stryker Syx Vector wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Yup your scared lol!!! That's all you can come up with? What are you 9 years old. Please. We all know you want the super scout era back. Just admit it.
I'm still in that era & when I see you on the battle field you will see! You better hope I have a bad gme that day. P.S. Have a good day Sir |
Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
9
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Posted - 2015.01.11 01:22:00 -
[78] - Quote
Jack McReady wrote:you can still wreck people from behind with cloak + shotgun, mainly because decloak sound and footsteps are not played from source originating from behind you.
you just need more patience though
Your right & thanks! |
Stryker Syx Vector
D3ATH CARD RUST415
65
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Posted - 2015.01.11 02:37:00 -
[79] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:Stryker Syx Vector wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Yup your scared lol!!! That's all you can come up with? What are you 9 years old. Please. We all know you want the super scout era back. Just admit it. I'm still in that era & when I see you on the battle field you will see! You better hope I have a bad gme that day. P.S. Have a good day Sir
Good luck
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
1274
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Posted - 2015.01.11 12:01:00 -
[80] - Quote
PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:2COM SH 2COM PD 2COM KC DSSG
Dafuq are they? I got the last two, but those....?
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
1274
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Posted - 2015.01.11 12:03:00 -
[81] - Quote
Stryker Syx Vector wrote:Real scouts wouldn't come to the forum and ***** about a crutch that was abused heavily
Indeed.
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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Skullmiser Vulcansu
237
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Posted - 2015.01.11 13:54:00 -
[82] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:I think that if they are going to keep the delay, they need to make the cloak truly invisible so you can't be seen while running or anything else.
I do think it is BS that we can still be spotted while cloaked, and have to wait several seconds before we can retaliate, all the while at a significant HP disadvantage.
I also stopped running cloak. Its just not worth it anymore.
Well, You are still not at a disadvantage compared to logistics players who share the equipment switch delay and have terible hit points.
If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
21
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Posted - 2015.04.04 20:13:00 -
[83] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:We just got out of the cloak dependent scout crap. We're not going back. Exactly. I hate it when I see scouts be too dependent on the cloak thinking it can enhance their killing potential when in fact it's mainly a flanking tool for infiltration and escape. I hate when people talked about Scouts & don't know how too scout & just because I said what I said don't mean I depend on the cloak. If you don't depend on the cloak, then don't ask for buffs that make it too dependable. It's strictly an infiltration/escape tool. Nothing more.
I'm going to keep asking!!! |
Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
358
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Posted - 2015.04.04 20:20:00 -
[84] - Quote
Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. No fair, I joined in May, nearly right after 1.8
Death by laser is imminent
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
21
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Posted - 2015.04.04 20:21:00 -
[85] - Quote
I was & that must be the only thing you can kill is a cloaked scout lol. |
DiablosMajora
86
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Posted - 2015.04.04 22:43:00 -
[86] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
Specialized combat cloaks when?
Prepare your angus
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6945
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Posted - 2015.04.05 01:20:00 -
[87] - Quote
Forced Death wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. No fair, I joined in May, nearly right after 1.8 Luckily for you, he stated how right on top of his post. |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2473
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Posted - 2015.04.05 01:37:00 -
[88] - Quote
Blame the large number of scouts with the incredibly brazen and not risky at all "playstyle" of running straight at people and 1-2 shotting them while coming out of cloak. Myos are almost as bad.
Cloaks are not meant to give combat advantage, and the loud noise they were supposed to make was insufficient. They were always supposed to be about movement and positional advantage.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1203
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Posted - 2015.04.05 02:02:00 -
[89] - Quote
Never much cared for them, I'd rather just haul ass the long way around the map and use terrain to my advantage when scouting. Having scouted before the cloak and buff they got I'd much rather just go with e-war and actual tactics.
/Faceplam
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2488
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Posted - 2015.04.05 02:11:00 -
[90] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:We just got out of the cloak dependent scout crap. We're not going back. Exactly. I hate it when I see scouts be too dependent on the cloak thinking it can enhance their killing potential when in fact it's mainly a flanking tool for infiltration and escape. I hate when people talked about Scouts & don't know how too scout & just because I said what I said don't mean I depend on the cloak. If you don't depend on the cloak, then don't ask for buffs that make it too dependable. It's strictly an infiltration/escape tool. Nothing more. It's a shame that it's absolutely terrible at both then. I love the cloak, but only on principle. It's just not a very useful tool anymore.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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killian178
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
132
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Posted - 2015.04.05 03:24:00 -
[91] - Quote
No, you do not speak for all scouts.....
Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
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Godin Thekiller
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
3025
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Posted - 2015.04.05 03:26:00 -
[92] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
This. I would go so far to say that they should become clearer, but have a longer delay.
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
15808
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Posted - 2015.04.05 03:49:00 -
[93] - Quote
*Yawn* Not this shit again...
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!
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Mobius Wyvern
Sky-FIRE
5885
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Posted - 2015.04.05 04:02:00 -
[94] - Quote
Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. Seriously.
Stop using the cloak as a crutch and learn how to get the jump on your enemy without it. The ideal use of the cloak is to ensure you don't get spotted when crossing areas with no cover. Once you start to get close, drop your cloak and move in for the kill.
I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV
R.I.P. Kesha
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GRIM GEAR
Nos Nothi
470
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Posted - 2015.04.05 06:37:00 -
[95] - Quote
Everyone who posted in this thread is a scrub myself included
Cup of tea anyone?
I came here to mingle can you hear that jingle that would be me lingle.
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Union118
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
537
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Posted - 2015.04.05 06:54:00 -
[96] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. No I disagree I have a hard time spotting cloaked scouts. They are fine as is.
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
L.O.T.I.S.
401
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Posted - 2015.04.05 07:36:00 -
[97] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
First time I actually agree with IWS. If your stupid enough to un-cloak right behind the enemy or just behind the enemy for him to hear you, YOU deserve to be shot.
- Do what I do and un-cloak like 10 meters behind the enemy and begin the hunt.
- Remember, Cloaks are just a visual thing really. Scouts were killing before cloaks. You've all just lost your way.
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jane stalin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
258
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Posted - 2015.04.05 07:48:00 -
[98] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
you don't speak for me, I like that the cloak has some disadvantages you have to work around
I would not mind having a different cloak with a no delay to shooting and it is very effective at opponents far away, However you need a disadvantage if your opponents are withing 30m close the scanner you should glow red because the scanner picks you up. This would let you run across open ground by yourself in safety and you would not be slaughtered by an installation or a good sniper/ railgunner. |
noob cavman
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
2201
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Posted - 2015.04.05 10:55:00 -
[99] - Quote
GRIM GEAR wrote:Everyone who posted in this thread is a scrub myself included Ubber scrub!
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
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VALCORE72
Dead Man's Game RUST415
260
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Posted - 2015.04.05 12:15:00 -
[100] - Quote
i love this thread lol . more plzzzzzzz lol
asian haters united lol .
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
449
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Posted - 2015.04.05 14:03:00 -
[101] - Quote
Wait... Who revived this thread? Pretty sure we came to a consensus on the subject of cloaks. (And I straight up like-farmed just by mentioning KinCats.)
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The Infected One
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
1510
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Posted - 2015.04.06 00:22:00 -
[102] - Quote
OP revived it half way down page 4. Shes just mad that shes now been put against the "upper tier" players and is getting stomped again, without the ability to simply leave and find a group of noobs to harass.
A little ego bruising is all that is going on in here, so shes venting and doing what bad players do.
Don't worry OP, you will be sorted out soon enough and you can be the big fish in the little pond of the low tier bracket again.
I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS?
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Cloak Dog
Horizons' Edge
24
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Posted - 2015.04.06 00:57:00 -
[103] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
You shouldn't have to defend yourself immediately. Even so, its fare for more people if uncloaking behind them gives them just enough time to freak out at the noise. And then: knife in the face
Much more fulfilling for everyone. If I'm killed while I'm cloaked, I can appreciate my enemies reflexes. :>
I'm more bark then bite...sometimes
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Darkstalker Astrea
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:11:00 -
[104] - Quote
THIS HAS GOTTEN WAY OUT OF HAND
AND IS QUITE SIMPLE.......
The cloak delay was necessary, it was horribly and deliciously abused by all scouts (not just shotgunners)
The problem is they decided to fix it with a bandaid that they found off a dead decaying homeless minmatar heathen
This is why coming out of the cloak is so glitchy, awkward, and cumbersome
THIS
THIS is how they have been "fixing" everything
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Cloak Dog
Horizons' Edge
25
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:16:00 -
[105] - Quote
Darkstalker Astrea wrote:THIS HAS GOTTEN WAY OUT OF HAND
AND IS QUITE SIMPLE.......
The cloak delay was necessary, it was horribly and deliciously abused by all scouts (not just shotgunners)
The problem is they decided to fix it with a bandaid that they found off a dead decaying homeless minmatar heathen
This is why coming out of the cloak is so glitchy, awkward, and cumbersome
THIS
THIS is how they have been "fixing" everything
And it is ruining everything
Is it a ruined game when if your given the ability to turn invisible, you have the mandatory, 'oh wait nothing is this easy' moment?
I'm more bark then bite...sometimes
Can hold a steady 1.0 K/D like a boss
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
1147
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:39:00 -
[106] - Quote
What I hate is the delay switch from cloak when it's not even activated!!! How long does it take to put my arm down!?!?
Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
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Cloak Dog
Horizons' Edge
33
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:48:00 -
[107] - Quote
Bright Steel wrote:What I hate is the delay switch from cloak when it's not even activated!!! How long does it take to put my arm down!?!? Isn't the future just so logical?! :D
I'm more bark then bite...sometimes
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
233
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:51:00 -
[108] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
Ahh, another newbie. Cloaks are fine. Trust me, cloaks functioned exactly how you asked when they first came out. Then came the abomination known as the "assault scout."
It may sound fun now, but literally EVERYONE played as scouts. Whole squads of scouts would jump in and gank a whole, well balanced, well organized team.
I suggest trying to use the cloak not as a tool for combat. Its for your scout's mobility. You can move across areas while cloaked and be virtually unspottable to all but the most battle-tested eyes. Or, another good use it when you see someone coming that you cant possibly kill head-on. So you hide in a corner, cloak, wait for them to pass you, carefully follow them, pull out your gun and you'll probably have dispatched them before they have time to fully react to your uncloaking noise.
Gallente-Fu Grand Master
Gallente Federation Patriot
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
233
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:53:00 -
[109] - Quote
The Infected One wrote:OP revived it half way down page 4. Shes just mad that shes now been put against the "upper tier" players and is getting stomped again, without the ability to simply leave and find a group of noobs to harass.
A little ego bruising is all that is going on in here, so shes venting and doing what bad players do.
Don't worry OP, you will be sorted out soon enough and you can be the big fish in the little pond of the low tier bracket again. Lol exactly.
Gallente-Fu Grand Master
Gallente Federation Patriot
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MythTanker
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
289
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:55:00 -
[110] - Quote
Stupid Blueberry wrote:Last I checked we use them in combat so, yeah they are combat cloaks. Cloak delay was only added because everyone has been beating around the bush because the issue is the shotgun. Funny how all the other weapons took the delay hit yet the shotgun can still get two salvos off before the suit comes out of cloak. Go be irrelevant somewhere else IWS.
<-- does not run cloak anymore, it's completely useless. Your name fits
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
3303
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Posted - 2015.04.06 04:15:00 -
[111] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
ouch In the name of all that is New Eden, he's back!
"Vengeance. Vengeance is the name of the monster that consumed me so long ago." - Sir Raven Wing
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Poison Diego
Dead Man's Game RUST415
587
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Posted - 2015.04.06 04:45:00 -
[112] - Quote
This is a pointless argument. The cloak is where it should be and could not be changed 1 bit. Exept lengthen the cloak time for the proto.
This is a dedicated scout talking.
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
238
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Posted - 2015.04.06 04:59:00 -
[113] - Quote
Poison Diego wrote:This is a pointless argument. The cloak is where it should be and could not be changed 1 bit. Exept lengthen the cloak time for the proto.
This is a dedicated scout talking.
I even say the proto cloak is fine. Its the standard one that should be buffed if anything. Seriously, what am I supposed to do for the short time I'm cloaked with a standard cloak. Its already bad enough I don't get a profile dampening bonus from a standard cloak (not that that's a problem for a Gallentean scout. Even in my standard, 'Valor' scout I can only recall being successfully scanned once in my entire career. An FW scanner with a Lv 5. Gal Logo, no doubt). By the time I see someone I can't fight, and decide its time to cloak/hide, I have they don't decide to "patrol" around the area longer than what my cloak can handle (90% of the time, I do. In the event of that happening though, 75% of the time I manage to move out of their line-of-sight long enough to find another hiding spot while my cloak cools down.
Gallente-Fu Grand Master
Gallente Federation Patriot
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Cloak Dog
Horizons' Edge
39
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Posted - 2015.04.06 05:10:00 -
[114] - Quote
General12912 wrote:Poison Diego wrote:This is a pointless argument. The cloak is where it should be and could not be changed 1 bit. Exept lengthen the cloak time for the proto.
This is a dedicated scout talking. I even say the proto cloak is fine. Its the standard one that should be buffed if anything. Seriously, what am I supposed to do for the short time I'm cloaked with a standard cloak. Its already bad enough I don't get a profile dampening bonus from a standard cloak (not that that's a problem for a Gallentean scout. Even in my standard, 'Valor' scout I can only recall being successfully scanned once in my entire career. An FW scanner with a Lv 5. Gal Logo, no doubt). By the time I see someone I can't fight, and decide its time to cloak/hide, I have they don't decide to "patrol" around the area longer than what my cloak can handle (90% of the time, I do. In the event of that happening though, 75% of the time I manage to move out of their line-of-sight long enough to find another hiding spot while my cloak cools down.
Before I tell you why the standard cloaking device is fine, wow that was a lot of typing you just did there.
This argument will continue to go on, but I just recently achieved advanced Gallente Scout, woo hoo. That lowers the cost of putting a cloak on my now advanced scout suit. My advanced scout with a standard cloak - because I fight my battles with a team.
If I get shot too much, and need to take cover, I cloak and run like the female dog I might be. I uncloak behind cover, assured that my TEAM will also cover me, as I'm kinda helping out by using a rep tool on them. When I've healed, I get back in the fight, because I'm a good scout. When I'm not behind cover, I use my cloak but stand still so I can be practically invisible. I scan the field with my eyeballs, and then take cover to assess my situation.
Standard Cloak is fine.
I'm more bark then bite...sometimes
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
192
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Posted - 2015.04.06 06:10:00 -
[115] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
Stupid comment from a stupid person.. He thinks we should only hack everything for him so he can win with his assault dooshs.. While getting slaughtered and go through 20 suits a game for **** points.. Guess what I hack everything only because I have skill snuff to kill some Bish's like you first. I know you would like a whole class to do your dishes , while you sit back and feast... But we ain't having it.. Dumbass |
Yeeeuuuupppp
1001
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Posted - 2015.04.06 12:28:00 -
[116] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
Sheeba Sheeba
PSN: GMANCASH
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
32
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:37:00 -
[117] - Quote
Leadfoot10 wrote:Dear OP,
Two points:
#1: You're not that good.
#2: Speak for yourself, not other scouts -- particularly those who appreciate balance.
Toodles.....Leadfoot Your a scrub
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
32
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:41:00 -
[118] - Quote
killian178 wrote:No, you do not speak for all scouts..... Only the real scouts
I remember you! You was laying at me feet with your color slowly fading.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:25:00 -
[119] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:killian178 wrote:No, you do not speak for all scouts..... Only the real scouts
You don't speak for me either.
You can keep on asking CCP to buff it but they will never bring it back to the OPness it was. Get use to the cloak delay.
Also, start learning to use the terrain. Passive scans can't see through rocks despite being able to see through structures. So use that to your advantages. The terrain can also help provide cover from bullets so there is that to consider.
I usually stick to the perimeter where stragglers are known to roam around in so I can catch them by surprise without the cloak. The only time I ever use the cloak is when I have to move through wide open spaces that don't have cover and I have no other route to go through.
Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:26:00 -
[120] - Quote
Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:27:00 -
[121] - Quote
Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
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Tectonic Fusion
2
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:28:00 -
[122] - Quote
I agree with you that the thing is useless at nighttime, but at 90m in daylight some people can't see me very well.
(GIF)
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:29:00 -
[123] - Quote
Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:30:00 -
[124] - Quote
Come on, everyone. Repeat after me.
Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
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Jack the Rlpper
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS No Context
202
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:38:00 -
[125] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you
If your one of the best then you should have no issue with the cloak I have no issue with it and I am far from a good scout.
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Victor889
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
273
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:39:00 -
[126] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
Try not running across open ground - that **** does not make you invisible contrary to popular belief. |
Victor889
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
273
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:41:00 -
[127] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Come on, everyone. Repeat after me.
Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
I use my BP Gal Scout more that any other suit mainly because it's cheap and effective, I pretty much always run scout and never even use the cloak. The trouble with people that don't know any better is they think that just because they are using a scout suit they NEED a cloak and that just isn't the case. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:41:00 -
[128] - Quote
Real scouts do not need harry potter villa cloaks to kill anyone
One little two little three little re s One little kill re , four little re kill six little re kill
One little, two little, three little heavies , One little two little three little logis and one re to kill them all
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:53:00 -
[129] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:iBone YourMom wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. guess that serves you right! listen to what you're saying Head... complaining how fast your guns come out when you're SNEAKING UP on someone UNdetected and get kills when no one can fight back!! And have the Nerve to use the word FAIR?! Jerk. So I guess you using a long range weapon on a shotgun scout is fair I think not ****.
Maddonna._.Your such an idiot.Face slap Maddonna ._.Wheres your long range ar on your scout? Maddonna ._.This quafe better not be cold
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nelo kazuma
Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415
298
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Posted - 2015.06.28 22:09:00 -
[130] - Quote
I starting skilling into scts about a month or so back when I was first able to equip it I went 27 n 1 in a basic at that n still use it often. The cloak is meant and was intended as an infiltration equipment not a combat cloak regardless of what anyone says. Even the name scout means what exactly? Scouts best purpose is setting secure locations for infantry to get in safely picking off single targets which even with delay on cloak it does perfectly fine. You just cant take one more than one or two at most which u shouldnt be anyway. Ohh and hacking sneakily >:) bwahahaha. Seriously though since shotgun isnt gonna be losing rounds in its clip this cloak adjustment (not nerf) needs to stay
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:28:00 -
[131] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
I can confirm that
102. recon battalion here ):p
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
831
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:31:00 -
[132] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
The cloak delay isnt about the scout defending itself, its about other people defending themselves from the scout. |
postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:42:00 -
[133] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
But the decloak delay is not for scouts defence, is actually thingy to improve glitch what amazingly allowed you to shots few shells from shotie before.
Some time ago, when ccp implemented cloaking device there was uproar for its nerf because scouts have really big advantage to shoot you down when they were invisible.
This decloak mechanism was implemented to do not allow them that, nothing else. And TBH if you cannot outrun contenders even when you are cloaked, you possibly doing something wrong. Or you maybe needs to change class.
"Caller of the Monolith"
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
34
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Posted - 2015.07.08 19:58:00 -
[134] - Quote
The Infected One wrote:OP revived it half way down page 4. Shes just mad that shes now been put against the "upper tier" players and is getting stomped again, without the ability to simply leave and find a group of noobs to harass.
A little ego bruising is all that is going on in here, so shes venting and doing what bad players do.
Don't worry OP, you will be sorted out soon enough and you can be the big fish in the little pond of the low tier bracket again. Your a scrub & we both know it!!!
I remember you! You was laying at me feet with your color slowly fading.
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
34
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Posted - 2015.07.08 20:01:00 -
[135] - Quote
Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:iBone YourMom wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. guess that serves you right! listen to what you're saying Head... complaining how fast your guns come out when you're SNEAKING UP on someone UNdetected and get kills when no one can fight back!! And have the Nerve to use the word FAIR?! Jerk. So I guess you using a long range weapon on a shotgun scout is fair I think not ****. Maddonna._.Your such an idiot.Face slap Maddonna ._.Wheres your long range ar on your scout? Maddonna ._.This quafe better not be cold Scrubs
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
2
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Posted - 2015.07.08 22:07:00 -
[136] - Quote
OP, you remind me of the scouts that make my team loose because they aren't doing scout things while the enemy teams scouts are making it impossible to holds onto a point by doing scouting things.
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DiablosMajora
204
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Posted - 2015.07.08 22:38:00 -
[137] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
So let's get some combat cloaks made?
Prepare your angus
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.08 22:46:00 -
[138] - Quote
Lady Hellfirer wrote:The Infected One wrote:OP revived it half way down page 4. Shes just mad that shes now been put against the "upper tier" players and is getting stomped again, without the ability to simply leave and find a group of noobs to harass.
A little ego bruising is all that is going on in here, so shes venting and doing what bad players do.
Don't worry OP, you will be sorted out soon enough and you can be the big fish in the little pond of the low tier bracket again. Lady Hellfirer is a scrub & we both know it!!!
fixed!
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
26
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Posted - 2015.07.08 23:31:00 -
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Not sure if this been brought up already but the new FoTM for cloaking seems to be punching people in the face. the Melee attack breaks you cloak but far as I can tell it does not have the delay readying a weapon would. So people run the jumpy scout fit and end up punching for 700+ dmg. Pretty much the same dmg of a lot of shot guns or the weaker knives. |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.07.08 23:54:00 -
[140] - Quote
Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Not sure if this been brought up already but the new FoTM for cloaking seems to be punching people in the face. the Melee attack breaks you cloak but far as I can tell it does not have the delay readying a weapon would. So people run the jumpy scout fit and end up punching for 700+ dmg. Pretty much the same dmg of a lot of shot guns or the weaker knives. Yes, but so many mercs out there, especially now that they have all those slots, can HP tank to no end, and that same scout, will likely not have much HP itself, because they are using their resources for the Melee.
Plus, melee has basically 0 range, and if you have any precision at all, whether Medium or Light framed, you will pick them up on tacnet before they hit you. It is a VERY niche style, and has lots of easy counters.
This can only be done on a Minmatar Scout, and even if they stack Complex Dampeners AND wear a Pro Cloak for the dampening, just wearing 2 precision enhancers will mean that even cloaked they will show up on your inner tacnet ring. And then you can just jump, turn mid air, and kill the 200 HP crazy person.
It really isn't the monster that you are making it out to be. If it is, or stays FotM, I will be VERY surprised.
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Ace Ravager
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you
How can you say you're the best scout when I have never seen you before
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN
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Posted - 2015.07.08 23:59:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. FTFU Scouts had there time. Cloak your ghey azz up and do scout **** or get wrecked, that invis in the back bioatch shiiit is done.... Its back to being about shooting.... It needs another nerf for the invis melee bs as well. |
NIETZCHES OVERMAN
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Posted - 2015.07.09 00:00:00 -
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Ace Ravager wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you How can you say you're the best scout when I have never seen you before Because you play on shiiiity euro trash server. |
NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.09 00:02:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Real scouts do not need harry potter villa cloaks to kill anyone
One little two little three little re s One little kill re , four little re kill six little re kill
One little, two little, three little heavies , One little two little three little logis and one re to kill them all
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Ace Ravager
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Posted - 2015.07.09 00:16:00 -
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote:Ace Ravager wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you How can you say you're the best scout when I have never seen you before Because you play on shiiiity euro trash server.
I'm pretty sure I play on NA and I've asked other people and people to name some of the best scouts and I've never heard of that name before
Edit: Come back and talk to me when you're actually in a corp
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SOGZ PANDA
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Posted - 2015.07.09 01:58:00 -
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What about the lag switchers lady?
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.07.09 02:14:00 -
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Story time
Today I was hacking a CRU. Heard the de-cloak shimmer right behind me. I turn around see a Serpent scout fraud who is unable to pull out his gun. I empty my ARR I to his face.
Moral of the story: Lolnoob
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.07.09 03:22:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Story time
Today I was hacking a CRU. Heard the de-cloak shimmer right behind me. I turn around see a Serpent scout fraud who is unable to pull out his gun. I empty my ARR I to his face.
Moral of the story: Lolnoob
He should have decloaked from a distance to mask the decloak sound. The fact that you mention that he was unable to pull out his weapon in time clearly tells me he was chasing you and never spawned at the CRU you were hacking. If he did spawn at the CRU he would have been able to fire right away from the temporary spawn cloak.
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emm kay
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Posted - 2015.07.09 03:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
you're right. they're paper-thin Bust my ass into pieces cloaks.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.09 05:01:00 -
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emm kay wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
you're right. they're paper-thin Bust my ass into pieces cloaks.
That's the point.... Notice how the suit says scout not front line on it. Right now the movement issue allows scouts to close the gap too fast and use essentially OHK weapons, shotty/knives.
The word Assault in a suit should imply the combat role. It's fine for scouts to defend themselves, but they are not intended as combat units. They scout and hack its a support role not combat. Every tactic has to has a counter play and shooting someone from behind while invisible allows no counter play.
I love scouts as well, but right now their role confusion due to Kincats and Myos is leading to a degenerate combat enviromnet. Mid range fighters are constantly now OHKed by guys who really should not be their face. You cant even see them on your scans before you are dead. That's not fun or fair.
So back to scouting not front line shotty duty. |
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Cloak Dog
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Posted - 2015.07.09 05:09:00 -
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I'm honestly surprised this is such a popular topic. This things been revived like twice now.
I'm more bark then bite...sometimes...
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Larkson Crazy Eye
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Posted - 2015.07.09 05:12:00 -
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probably because every scrub player and their brother has a new scout BPO to play with and their using cloak for the first time =p
Seriously pub matches now half the team is usually serpent scouts lately. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.07.09 07:32:00 -
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cloak delay doesnt affect the skilled players. you can jump switch, punch and knife any suit quickly before your target realizes what happens.
the real issue is, if you have your cloak tool out and arent cloaked at all. why does it take several seconds till I can put my arm back? |
KGB Sleep
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2015.07.09 08:10:00 -
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I say return cloaks to their former glory and put the cloak module in the light weapon slot.
Then it can be a "combat cloak."
Edit: only problem I can see is cloaked commandos.
Because beer, that's why.
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