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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:27:00 -
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Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:28:00 -
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I agree with you that the thing is useless at nighttime, but at 90m in daylight some people can't see me very well.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:29:00 -
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Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:30:00 -
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Come on, everyone. Repeat after me.
Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
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Jack the Rlpper
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS No Context
202
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:38:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you
If your one of the best then you should have no issue with the cloak I have no issue with it and I am far from a good scout.
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Victor889
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
273
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:39:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
Try not running across open ground - that **** does not make you invisible contrary to popular belief. |
Victor889
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:41:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Come on, everyone. Repeat after me.
Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
I use my BP Gal Scout more that any other suit mainly because it's cheap and effective, I pretty much always run scout and never even use the cloak. The trouble with people that don't know any better is they think that just because they are using a scout suit they NEED a cloak and that just isn't the case. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:41:00 -
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Real scouts do not need harry potter villa cloaks to kill anyone
One little two little three little re s One little kill re , four little re kill six little re kill
One little, two little, three little heavies , One little two little three little logis and one re to kill them all
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:53:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:iBone YourMom wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. guess that serves you right! listen to what you're saying Head... complaining how fast your guns come out when you're SNEAKING UP on someone UNdetected and get kills when no one can fight back!! And have the Nerve to use the word FAIR?! Jerk. So I guess you using a long range weapon on a shotgun scout is fair I think not ****.
Maddonna._.Your such an idiot.Face slap Maddonna ._.Wheres your long range ar on your scout? Maddonna ._.This quafe better not be cold
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nelo kazuma
Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415
298
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Posted - 2015.06.28 22:09:00 -
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I starting skilling into scts about a month or so back when I was first able to equip it I went 27 n 1 in a basic at that n still use it often. The cloak is meant and was intended as an infiltration equipment not a combat cloak regardless of what anyone says. Even the name scout means what exactly? Scouts best purpose is setting secure locations for infantry to get in safely picking off single targets which even with delay on cloak it does perfectly fine. You just cant take one more than one or two at most which u shouldnt be anyway. Ohh and hacking sneakily >:) bwahahaha. Seriously though since shotgun isnt gonna be losing rounds in its clip this cloak adjustment (not nerf) needs to stay
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:28:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone.
I can confirm that
102. recon battalion here ):p
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I miss my VZ 58 (Hey CCP make VZ 58 for me in dust) ;p
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
831
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:31:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
The cloak delay isnt about the scout defending itself, its about other people defending themselves from the scout. |
postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:42:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP.
But the decloak delay is not for scouts defence, is actually thingy to improve glitch what amazingly allowed you to shots few shells from shotie before.
Some time ago, when ccp implemented cloaking device there was uproar for its nerf because scouts have really big advantage to shoot you down when they were invisible.
This decloak mechanism was implemented to do not allow them that, nothing else. And TBH if you cannot outrun contenders even when you are cloaked, you possibly doing something wrong. Or you maybe needs to change class.
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
34
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Posted - 2015.07.08 19:58:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:OP revived it half way down page 4. Shes just mad that shes now been put against the "upper tier" players and is getting stomped again, without the ability to simply leave and find a group of noobs to harass.
A little ego bruising is all that is going on in here, so shes venting and doing what bad players do.
Don't worry OP, you will be sorted out soon enough and you can be the big fish in the little pond of the low tier bracket again. Your a scrub & we both know it!!!
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Lady Hellfirer
EVE'S Best
34
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Posted - 2015.07.08 20:01:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:iBone YourMom wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. guess that serves you right! listen to what you're saying Head... complaining how fast your guns come out when you're SNEAKING UP on someone UNdetected and get kills when no one can fight back!! And have the Nerve to use the word FAIR?! Jerk. So I guess you using a long range weapon on a shotgun scout is fair I think not ****. Maddonna._.Your such an idiot.Face slap Maddonna ._.Wheres your long range ar on your scout? Maddonna ._.This quafe better not be cold Scrubs
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
2
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Posted - 2015.07.08 22:07:00 -
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OP, you remind me of the scouts that make my team loose because they aren't doing scout things while the enemy teams scouts are making it impossible to holds onto a point by doing scouting things.
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DiablosMajora
204
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Posted - 2015.07.08 22:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
So let's get some combat cloaks made?
Prepare your angus
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.08 22:46:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:The Infected One wrote:OP revived it half way down page 4. Shes just mad that shes now been put against the "upper tier" players and is getting stomped again, without the ability to simply leave and find a group of noobs to harass.
A little ego bruising is all that is going on in here, so shes venting and doing what bad players do.
Don't worry OP, you will be sorted out soon enough and you can be the big fish in the little pond of the low tier bracket again. Lady Hellfirer is a scrub & we both know it!!!
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
26
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Posted - 2015.07.08 23:31:00 -
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Not sure if this been brought up already but the new FoTM for cloaking seems to be punching people in the face. the Melee attack breaks you cloak but far as I can tell it does not have the delay readying a weapon would. So people run the jumpy scout fit and end up punching for 700+ dmg. Pretty much the same dmg of a lot of shot guns or the weaker knives. |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.07.08 23:54:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Not sure if this been brought up already but the new FoTM for cloaking seems to be punching people in the face. the Melee attack breaks you cloak but far as I can tell it does not have the delay readying a weapon would. So people run the jumpy scout fit and end up punching for 700+ dmg. Pretty much the same dmg of a lot of shot guns or the weaker knives. Yes, but so many mercs out there, especially now that they have all those slots, can HP tank to no end, and that same scout, will likely not have much HP itself, because they are using their resources for the Melee.
Plus, melee has basically 0 range, and if you have any precision at all, whether Medium or Light framed, you will pick them up on tacnet before they hit you. It is a VERY niche style, and has lots of easy counters.
This can only be done on a Minmatar Scout, and even if they stack Complex Dampeners AND wear a Pro Cloak for the dampening, just wearing 2 precision enhancers will mean that even cloaked they will show up on your inner tacnet ring. And then you can just jump, turn mid air, and kill the 200 HP crazy person.
It really isn't the monster that you are making it out to be. If it is, or stays FotM, I will be VERY surprised.
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Ace Ravager
Horizons' Edge No Context
100
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Posted - 2015.07.08 23:56:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you
How can you say you're the best scout when I have never seen you before
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2015.07.08 23:59:00 -
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Lady Hellfirer wrote:It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. FTFU Scouts had there time. Cloak your ghey azz up and do scout **** or get wrecked, that invis in the back bioatch shiiit is done.... Its back to being about shooting.... It needs another nerf for the invis melee bs as well. |
NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2015.07.09 00:00:00 -
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Ace Ravager wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you How can you say you're the best scout when I have never seen you before Because you play on shiiiity euro trash server. |
NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2015.07.09 00:02:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Real scouts do not need harry potter villa cloaks to kill anyone
One little two little three little re s One little kill re , four little re kill six little re kill
One little, two little, three little heavies , One little two little three little logis and one re to kill them all
You are just bad. |
Ace Ravager
Horizons' Edge No Context
100
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Posted - 2015.07.09 00:16:00 -
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote:Ace Ravager wrote:Lady Hellfirer wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field
And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. I was hee before that & I was one of the best scouts & still is one of the best so get your fact thank you How can you say you're the best scout when I have never seen you before Because you play on shiiiity euro trash server.
I'm pretty sure I play on NA and I've asked other people and people to name some of the best scouts and I've never heard of that name before
Edit: Come back and talk to me when you're actually in a corp
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SOGZ PANDA
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
117
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Posted - 2015.07.09 01:58:00 -
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What about the lag switchers lady?
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.07.09 02:14:00 -
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Story time
Today I was hacking a CRU. Heard the de-cloak shimmer right behind me. I turn around see a Serpent scout fraud who is unable to pull out his gun. I empty my ARR I to his face.
Moral of the story: Lolnoob
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.07.09 03:22:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Story time
Today I was hacking a CRU. Heard the de-cloak shimmer right behind me. I turn around see a Serpent scout fraud who is unable to pull out his gun. I empty my ARR I to his face.
Moral of the story: Lolnoob
He should have decloaked from a distance to mask the decloak sound. The fact that you mention that he was unable to pull out his weapon in time clearly tells me he was chasing you and never spawned at the CRU you were hacking. If he did spawn at the CRU he would have been able to fire right away from the temporary spawn cloak.
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emm kay
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2015.07.09 03:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
you're right. they're paper-thin Bust my ass into pieces cloaks.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2015.07.09 05:01:00 -
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emm kay wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not combat cloaks
you're right. they're paper-thin Bust my ass into pieces cloaks.
That's the point.... Notice how the suit says scout not front line on it. Right now the movement issue allows scouts to close the gap too fast and use essentially OHK weapons, shotty/knives.
The word Assault in a suit should imply the combat role. It's fine for scouts to defend themselves, but they are not intended as combat units. They scout and hack its a support role not combat. Every tactic has to has a counter play and shooting someone from behind while invisible allows no counter play.
I love scouts as well, but right now their role confusion due to Kincats and Myos is leading to a degenerate combat enviromnet. Mid range fighters are constantly now OHKed by guys who really should not be their face. You cant even see them on your scans before you are dead. That's not fun or fair.
So back to scouting not front line shotty duty. |
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