DUST Search - Coming out the cloak is not fair for scouts now!!

General12912 wrote:

Poison Diego wrote:

This is a pointless argument. The cloak is where it should be and could not be changed 1 bit. Exept lengthen the cloak time for the proto.

This is a dedicated scout talking.

I even say the proto cloak is fine. Its the standard one that should be buffed if anything. Seriously, what am I supposed to do for the short time I'm cloaked with a standard cloak. Its already bad enough I don't get a profile dampening bonus from a standard cloak (not that that's a problem for a Gallentean scout. Even in my standard, 'Valor' scout I can only recall being successfully scanned once in my entire career. An FW scanner with a Lv 5. Gal Logo, no doubt). By the time I see someone I can't fight, and decide its time to cloak/hide, I have they don't decide to "patrol" around the area longer than what my cloak can handle (90% of the time, I do. In the event of that happening though, 75% of the time I manage to move out of their line-of-sight long enough to find another hiding spot while my cloak cools down.

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killian178 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 132	Posted - 2015.04.05 03:24:00 - [91] - Quote No, you do not speak for all scouts..... Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3025	Posted - 2015.04.05 03:26:00 - [92] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They're not combat cloaks This. I would go so far to say that they should become clearer, but have a longer delay. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 15808	Posted - 2015.04.05 03:49:00 - [93] - Quote Yawn Not this shit again... Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5885	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:02:00 - [94] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: Kinetic Catalyzer(s) > Cloak Field And if you were here before 1.8, you'll know how to survive. Seriously. Stop using the cloak as a crutch and learn how to get the jump on your enemy without it. The ideal use of the cloak is to ensure you don't get spotted when crossing areas with no cover. Once you start to get close, drop your cloak and move in for the kill. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
GRIM GEAR Nos Nothi 470	Posted - 2015.04.05 06:37:00 - [95] - Quote Everyone who posted in this thread is a scrub myself included Cup of tea anyone? I came here to mingle can you hear that jingle that would be me lingle.
Union118 Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 537	Posted - 2015.04.05 06:54:00 - [96] - Quote Lady Hellfirer wrote: It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. No I disagree I have a hard time spotting cloaked scouts. They are fine as is. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 401	Posted - 2015.04.05 07:36:00 - [97] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They're not combat cloaks First time I actually agree with IWS. If your stupid enough to un-cloak right behind the enemy or just behind the enemy for him to hear you, YOU deserve to be shot. - Do what I do and un-cloak like 10 meters behind the enemy and begin the hunt. - Remember, Cloaks are just a visual thing really. Scouts were killing before cloaks. You've all just lost your way. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body. In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 258	Posted - 2015.04.05 07:48:00 - [98] - Quote Lady Hellfirer wrote: It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. you don't speak for me, I like that the cloak has some disadvantages you have to work around I would not mind having a different cloak with a no delay to shooting and it is very effective at opponents far away, However you need a disadvantage if your opponents are withing 30m close the scanner you should glow red because the scanner picks you up. This would let you run across open ground by yourself in safety and you would not be slaughtered by an installation or a good sniper/ railgunner.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2201	Posted - 2015.04.05 10:55:00 - [99] - Quote GRIM GEAR wrote: Everyone who posted in this thread is a scrub myself included Ubber scrub! I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
VALCORE72 Dead Man's Game RUST415 260	Posted - 2015.04.05 12:15:00 - [100] - Quote i love this thread lol . more plzzzzzzz lol asian haters united lol .

Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 449	Posted - 2015.04.05 14:03:00 - [101] - Quote Wait... Who revived this thread? Pretty sure we came to a consensus on the subject of cloaks. (And I straight up like-farmed just by mentioning KinCats.) [51.3m SP, Next skill: Combat Rifle Rapid Reload 5] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Speedy Sentinel
The Infected One Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1510	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:22:00 - [102] - Quote OP revived it half way down page 4. Shes just mad that shes now been put against the "upper tier" players and is getting stomped again, without the ability to simply leave and find a group of noobs to harass. A little ego bruising is all that is going on in here, so shes venting and doing what bad players do. Don't worry OP, you will be sorted out soon enough and you can be the big fish in the little pond of the low tier bracket again. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? --. . - + ..-. ..- -.-. -.- . -..
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 24	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:57:00 - [103] - Quote Lady Hellfirer wrote: It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. You shouldn't have to defend yourself immediately. Even so, its fare for more people if uncloaking behind them gives them just enough time to freak out at the noise. And then: knife in the face Much more fulfilling for everyone. If I'm killed while I'm cloaked, I can appreciate my enemies reflexes. :> I'm more bark then bite...sometimes Can hold a steady 1.0 K/D like a boss
Darkstalker Astrea Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2015.04.06 01:11:00 - [104] - Quote THIS HAS GOTTEN WAY OUT OF HAND AND IS QUITE SIMPLE....... The cloak delay was necessary, it was horribly and deliciously abused by all scouts (not just shotgunners) The problem is they decided to fix it with a bandaid that they found off a dead decaying homeless minmatar heathen This is why coming out of the cloak is so glitchy, awkward, and cumbersome THIS THIS is how they have been "fixing" everything And it is ruining everything
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 25	Posted - 2015.04.06 01:16:00 - [105] - Quote Darkstalker Astrea wrote: THIS HAS GOTTEN WAY OUT OF HAND AND IS QUITE SIMPLE....... The cloak delay was necessary, it was horribly and deliciously abused by all scouts (not just shotgunners) The problem is they decided to fix it with a bandaid that they found off a dead decaying homeless minmatar heathen This is why coming out of the cloak is so glitchy, awkward, and cumbersome THIS THIS is how they have been "fixing" everything And it is ruining everything Is it a ruined game when if your given the ability to turn invisible, you have the mandatory, 'oh wait nothing is this easy' moment? I'm more bark then bite...sometimes Can hold a steady 1.0 K/D like a boss
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge 1147	Posted - 2015.04.06 02:39:00 - [106] - Quote What I hate is the delay switch from cloak when it's not even activated!!! How long does it take to put my arm down!?!? Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 33	Posted - 2015.04.06 02:48:00 - [107] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: What I hate is the delay switch from cloak when it's not even activated!!! How long does it take to put my arm down!?!? Isn't the future just so logical?! :D I'm more bark then bite...sometimes Can hold a steady 1.0 K/D like a boss
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 233	Posted - 2015.04.06 02:51:00 - [108] - Quote Lady Hellfirer wrote: It's to easy to kill a person if you spot them cloaked now. It takes to long to pull your gun out to defend you self & it's not fair to anybody that likes to cloak. I think the time needs to be cut in half so you have more time to defend your self. I think I speak for all scouts that like to cloak please change that so CPP. Ahh, another newbie. Cloaks are fine. Trust me, cloaks functioned exactly how you asked when they first came out. Then came the abomination known as the "assault scout." It may sound fun now, but literally EVERYONE played as scouts. Whole squads of scouts would jump in and gank a whole, well balanced, well organized team. I suggest trying to use the cloak not as a tool for combat. Its for your scout's mobility. You can move across areas while cloaked and be virtually unspottable to all but the most battle-tested eyes. Or, another good use it when you see someone coming that you cant possibly kill head-on. So you hide in a corner, cloak, wait for them to pass you, carefully follow them, pull out your gun and you'll probably have dispatched them before they have time to fully react to your uncloaking noise. Gallente-Fu Grand Master Gallente Federation Patriot
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 233	Posted - 2015.04.06 02:53:00 - [109] - Quote The Infected One wrote: OP revived it half way down page 4. Shes just mad that shes now been put against the "upper tier" players and is getting stomped again, without the ability to simply leave and find a group of noobs to harass. A little ego bruising is all that is going on in here, so shes venting and doing what bad players do. Don't worry OP, you will be sorted out soon enough and you can be the big fish in the little pond of the low tier bracket again. Lol exactly. Gallente-Fu Grand Master Gallente Federation Patriot
MythTanker Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 289	Posted - 2015.04.06 02:55:00 - [110] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Last I checked we use them in combat so, yeah they are combat cloaks. Cloak delay was only added because everyone has been beating around the bush because the issue is the shotgun. Funny how all the other weapons took the delay hit yet the shotgun can still get two salvos off before the suit comes out of cloak. Go be irrelevant somewhere else IWS. <-- does not run cloak anymore, it's completely useless. Your name fits Drink Quafe F@gg0t -CPM Awox FA's offical FG bitch

sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge 3303	Posted - 2015.04.06 04:15:00 - [111] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They're not combat cloaks ouch *In the name of all that is New Eden, he's back!* *"Vengeance. Vengeance is the name of the monster that consumed me so long ago." - Sir Raven Wing*
Poison Diego Dead Man's Game RUST415 587	Posted - 2015.04.06 04:45:00 - [112] - Quote This is a pointless argument. The cloak is where it should be and could not be changed 1 bit. Exept lengthen the cloak time for the proto. This is a dedicated scout talking. Nýja Eden er bara byrjunin.
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 238	Posted - 2015.04.06 04:59:00 - [113] - Quote Poison Diego wrote: This is a pointless argument. The cloak is where it should be and could not be changed 1 bit. Exept lengthen the cloak time for the proto. This is a dedicated scout talking. I even say the proto cloak is fine. Its the standard one that should be buffed if anything. Seriously, what am I supposed to do for the short time I'm cloaked with a standard cloak. Its already bad enough I don't get a profile dampening bonus from a standard cloak (not that that's a problem for a Gallentean scout. Even in my standard, 'Valor' scout I can only recall being successfully scanned once in my entire career. An FW scanner with a Lv 5. Gal Logo, no doubt). By the time I see someone I can't fight, and decide its time to cloak/hide, I have they don't decide to "patrol" around the area longer than what my cloak can handle (90% of the time, I do. In the event of that happening though, 75% of the time I manage to move out of their line-of-sight long enough to find another hiding spot while my cloak cools down. Gallente-Fu Grand Master Gallente Federation Patriot
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 39	Posted - 2015.04.06 05:10:00 - [114] - Quote General12912 wrote: Poison Diego wrote: This is a pointless argument. The cloak is where it should be and could not be changed 1 bit. Exept lengthen the cloak time for the proto. This is a dedicated scout talking. I even say the proto cloak is fine. Its the standard one that should be buffed if anything. Seriously, what am I supposed to do for the short time I'm cloaked with a standard cloak. Its already bad enough I don't get a profile dampening bonus from a standard cloak (not that that's a problem for a Gallentean scout. Even in my standard, 'Valor' scout I can only recall being successfully scanned once in my entire career. An FW scanner with a Lv 5. Gal Logo, no doubt). By the time I see someone I can't fight, and decide its time to cloak/hide, I have they don't decide to "patrol" around the area longer than what my cloak can handle (90% of the time, I do. In the event of that happening though, 75% of the time I manage to move out of their line-of-sight long enough to find another hiding spot while my cloak cools down. Before I tell you why the standard cloaking device is fine, wow that was a lot of typing you just did there. This argument will continue to go on, but I just recently achieved advanced Gallente Scout, woo hoo. That lowers the cost of putting a cloak on my now advanced scout suit. My advanced scout with a standard cloak - because I fight my battles with a team. If I get shot too much, and need to take cover, I cloak and run like the female dog I might be. I uncloak behind cover, assured that my TEAM will also cover me, as I'm kinda helping out by using a rep tool on them. When I've healed, I get back in the fight, because I'm a good scout. When I'm not behind cover, I use my cloak but stand still so I can be practically invisible. I scan the field with my eyeballs, and then take cover to assess my situation. Standard Cloak is fine. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes Can hold a steady 1.0 K/D like a boss
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 192	Posted - 2015.04.06 06:10:00 - [115] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They're not combat cloaks Stupid comment from a stupid person.. He thinks we should only hack everything for him so he can win with his assault dooshs.. While getting slaughtered and go through 20 suits a game for **** points.. Guess what I hack everything only because I have skill snuff to kill some Bish's like you first. I know you would like a whole class to do your dishes , while you sit back and feast... But we ain't having it.. Dumbass
Yeeeuuuupppp 1001	Posted - 2015.04.06 12:28:00 - [116] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They're not combat cloaks *Sheeba Sheeba* PSN: GMANCASH "I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
Lady Hellfirer EVE'S Best 32	Posted - 2015.06.28 15:37:00 - [117] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Dear OP, Two points: #1: You're not that good. #2: Speak for yourself, not other scouts -- particularly those who appreciate balance. Toodles.....Leadfoot Your a scrub I remember you! You was laying at me feet with your color slowly fading.
Lady Hellfirer EVE'S Best 32	Posted - 2015.06.28 15:41:00 - [118] - Quote killian178 wrote: No, you do not speak for all scouts..... Only the real scouts I remember you! You was laying at me feet with your color slowly fading.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2015.06.28 21:25:00 - [119] - Quote Lady Hellfirer wrote: killian178 wrote: No, you do not speak for all scouts..... Only the real scouts You don't speak for me either. You can keep on asking CCP to buff it but they will never bring it back to the OPness it was. Get use to the cloak delay. Also, start learning to use the terrain. Passive scans can't see through rocks despite being able to see through structures. So use that to your advantages. The terrain can also help provide cover from bullets so there is that to consider. I usually stick to the perimeter where stragglers are known to roam around in so I can catch them by surprise without the cloak. The only time I ever use the cloak is when I have to move through wide open spaces that don't have cover and I have no other route to go through. Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2015.06.28 21:26:00 - [120] - Quote Real scouts don't need the cloak to kill anyone. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy



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