DUST Search - The scout nerf.. are you serious?

Smoky The Bear wrote:

The scouts have taken nerf after nerf .. But making me wait 5 seconds before I can shoot or anything else after using cloak is unacceptable and unplayable.. If your goal was to kill this class, then congratulations..

I've been here since Closed Beta and have suffered many stupid nerfs but this is the worst by far. Who's idea was this anyways? Call of Booty crowd that runs this game now? mindless assault drones?

First, The problem with being able to shoot from inside cloak was NEVER MORE THAN A VISUAL LAG GLITCH.. which STILL remains the exact same.. But now I have to wait 5 seconds for you to NOT SEE ME pull out my shotty.. This is a scout ending and incredibly STUPID thing to do to my class..

O well, I knew this type of insanity was in the pipeline, but I wont be here to tolerate it.. Im giving up my 40 million SP's and my character because its just downright UNPLAYABLE now.. thanks CCP.

Tryhard call of booty forum warriors need to realize one thing.. Scouts are not OP.. they are simply better players than you.. Fast twitch players enjoy mobility and will sacrifice just about anything to get it.. Pure and simple.. sorry to break the truth..

Anyways, peace out DUST.. you broke my heart

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Indianna Pwns The Cheshire Cats 44	Posted - 2015.03.21 02:43:00 - [151] - Quote The cloak sucks, everyone can still see you moving (even at a crawl) and its so hard to fit. I go without and heavily dampen instead.
nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 51	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:23:00 - [152] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: yes I was.. but after all the nerfs to compensate for the cloak.. no longer possible.. too many proto one shotters to go back... I have no scans! wtf good is a scout with no scans? If you or anyone else thinks you are a better scout that doesnt need a cloak, just lol.. see me in the game bish So your answer is to use no cloak... because you know damn well to use the cloak now.. is... just dumb... like you Hmm whats a scout usefull for hmm idk maybe actual scouting uplink placement hacking while invisible running into enemy territory to set uplinks to benifit team not just solo assholes who wanna shotgun nova knife n throw remotes. If u cant find a use that's sad a buddy of mine runs cal scout in city environment and runs cloak n scanner for points he sees everything. Gal scouts can walk right past enemys completly undetected lay links n nobody knows hes there or will due to dampening. Min scouts hack at ridiculous speeds one match his team quit but he ran around huge map n hacked everything withins a few seconds. As for amar scout ...umm well they try lol sadly haven't seen any. Their name is scout for a reason. They can traverse map no matter how well enemys camps cloak still helps great deal u just wanna abuse
Mikhail Windgates 7th air cav 0	Posted - 2015.03.21 04:04:00 - [153] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Helghus Resther wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: yes I was.. but after all the nerfs to compensate for the cloak.. no longer possible.. too many proto one shotters to go back... I have no scans! wtf good is a scout with no scans? If you or anyone else thinks you are a better scout that doesnt need a cloak, just lol.. see me in the game bish So your answer is to use no cloak... because you know damn well to use the cloak now.. is... just dumb... like you Sounds like you suck at running scouts, and think that cloaking getting nerfed is actually a big deal.. Me, I never needed cloaks; I used scouts only as faster assaults with smaller hitboxes. It works. If you're going to leave because of this, bye-bye. A player that thought a module was the only thing making a class playable? You won't be missed, trust me. Same ol song and dance every time the forum warrior come out to play.. Once again, Im the best scout in dust.. Before and after the cloak.. See me on the field.. Keep on trying nobody scout mofo Jolly? Moody? Kitty? Musturd? I still remember those names and some that you guys might not know of... I've been using this scout class before cloak was implemented. I'm not a slayer type, but a support type. Mostly I do recon, relay info on my team and take out those lonely redberries. I also do logistic roles, i have a min logi suit and I apply my recon skills on it too. Just my two cents, even though they hammered down the scout class. I'm still going to use it and that's because I enjoy playing the role of a scout. So enjoy the game and have fun knifing your foes.
cray cray FISH Caught Me With My Pants Down 44	Posted - 2015.03.21 06:04:00 - [154] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Helghus Resther wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: yes I was.. but after all the nerfs to compensate for the cloak.. no longer possible.. too many proto one shotters to go back... I have no scans! wtf good is a scout with no scans? If you or anyone else thinks you are a better scout that doesnt need a cloak, just lol.. see me in the game bish So your answer is to use no cloak... because you know damn well to use the cloak now.. is... just dumb... like you Sounds like you suck at running scouts, and think that cloaking getting nerfed is actually a big deal.. Me, I never needed cloaks; I used scouts only as faster assaults with smaller hitboxes. It works. If you're going to leave because of this, bye-bye. A player that thought a module was the only thing making a class playable? You won't be missed, trust me. Same ol song and dance every time the forum warrior come out to play.. Once again, Im the best scout in dust.. Before and after the cloak.. See me on the field.. Keep on trying nobody scout mofo Jolly? Moody? Kitty? Musturd? Djinn Marauder according to the scout gospel (Barbershop). .#Stormtrooper4life Team BD's Resident Fish
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1076	Posted - 2015.03.21 06:54:00 - [155] - Quote cray cray FISH wrote: scout gospel (Barbershop). No. I mean I don't doubt in marauder, you know other than the only time I've seen him was in armor tanked scouts in videos, but yeah the barbershop represent scouts in the same way that white supremacists represent mutli-cultural growth. In that they don't. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 103	Posted - 2015.03.21 10:58:00 - [156] - Quote Scouts who run without cloak...........those guys should have bigger suits to support their massive balls How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6756	Posted - 2015.03.21 13:37:00 - [157] - Quote This isn't a scout nerf. It's a Cloak nerf.
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1077	Posted - 2015.03.21 18:21:00 - [158] - Quote Joel II X wrote: This isn't a scout nerf. It's a Cloak nerf. Did you see the range reduction in E-war and the nerf to range extenders, if that isn't a scout nerf I don't know what is. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
Mikhail Windgates 7th air cav 4	Posted - 2015.03.22 01:46:00 - [159] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Joel II X wrote: This isn't a scout nerf. It's a Cloak nerf. Did you see the range reduction in E-war and the nerf to range extenders, if that isn't a scout nerf I don't know what is. Yes it is a nerf, i can vouch to that. Just my opinion, the once that you see still playing scouts are the hardcore ones (not all but some). I mean we don't have passive scans, so it's more like they really know how to scout without the e-war stuff. and scouts are pretty squishy or it's just me using modules and not tanking it
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 530	Posted - 2015.03.22 01:50:00 - [160] - Quote I liked it when I could turn on my cloak, nova knife someone, recloak, and run away. Now, people who melee have an advantage because they can recloak faster. (if they are meleeing from cloak equipment) Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ

rasputin900000 Subsonic Synthesis 31	Posted - 2015.03.22 02:13:00 - [161] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: The scouts have taken nerf after nerf .. But making me wait 5 seconds before I can shoot or anything else after using cloak is unacceptable and unplayable.. If your goal was to kill this class, then congratulations.. I've been here since Closed Beta and have suffered many stupid nerfs but this is the worst by far. Who's idea was this anyways? Call of Booty crowd that runs this game now? mindless assault drones? First, The problem with being able to shoot from inside cloak was NEVER MORE THAN A VISUAL LAG GLITCH.. which STILL remains the exact same.. But now I have to wait 5 seconds for you to NOT SEE ME pull out my shotty.. This is a scout ending and incredibly STUPID thing to do to my class.. O well, I knew this type of insanity was in the pipeline, but I wont be here to tolerate it.. Im giving up my 40 million SP's and my character because its just downright UNPLAYABLE now.. thanks CCP. Tryhard call of booty forum warriors need to realize one thing.. Scouts are not OP.. they are simply better players than you.. Fast twitch players enjoy mobility and will sacrifice just about anything to get it.. Pure and simple.. sorry to break the truth.. Anyways, peace out DUST.. you broke my heart Imagine what all of us fat boys have went through because of a bunch of whiny ass scouts, think about it do you own any real weapons if you do you know a shotgun doesn't even come close to out ranging a 30 cal hmg but in new eden it does along with everything else. The assault hmg had alright range with almost no damage now it has all the damage but no accuracy so it's still a joke the fastest man in the world can't run between bullets but every scout on the game runs between them now as well as most assaults. So I say nerf 'em too. Even the Klingon's had to decloak before they shot at the Enterprise why shouldn't you?
tffvbhb Team Bukkakke 0	Posted - 2015.03.23 02:24:00 - [162] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: The scouts have taken nerf after nerf .. But making me wait 5 seconds before I can shoot or anything else after using cloak is unacceptable and unplayable.. If your goal was to kill this class, then congratulations.. I've been here since Closed Beta and have suffered many stupid nerfs but this is the worst by far. Who's idea was this anyways? Call of Booty crowd that runs this game now? mindless assault drones? First, The problem with being able to shoot from inside cloak was NEVER MORE THAN A VISUAL LAG GLITCH.. which STILL remains the exact same.. But now I have to wait 5 seconds for you to NOT SEE ME pull out my shotty.. This is a scout ending and incredibly STUPID thing to do to my class.. O well, I knew this type of insanity was in the pipeline, but I wont be here to tolerate it.. Im giving up my 40 million SP's and my character because its just downright UNPLAYABLE now.. thanks CCP. Tryhard call of booty forum warriors need to realize one thing.. Scouts are not OP.. they are simply better players than you.. Fast twitch players enjoy mobility and will sacrifice just about anything to get it.. Pure and simple.. sorry to break the truth.. Anyways, peace out DUST.. you broke my heart I never have a problem with it
HOLY PERFECTION Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 78	Posted - 2015.03.23 02:25:00 - [163] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: The scouts have taken nerf after nerf .. But making me wait 5 seconds before I can shoot or anything else after using cloak is unacceptable and unplayable.. If your goal was to kill this class, then congratulations.. I've been here since Closed Beta and have suffered many stupid nerfs but this is the worst by far. Who's idea was this anyways? Call of Booty crowd that runs this game now? mindless assault drones? First, The problem with being able to shoot from inside cloak was NEVER MORE THAN A VISUAL LAG GLITCH.. which STILL remains the exact same.. But now I have to wait 5 seconds for you to NOT SEE ME pull out my shotty.. This is a scout ending and incredibly STUPID thing to do to my class.. O well, I knew this type of insanity was in the pipeline, but I wont be here to tolerate it.. Im giving up my 40 million SP's and my character because its just downright UNPLAYABLE now.. thanks CCP. Tryhard call of booty forum warriors need to realize one thing.. Scouts are not OP.. they are simply better players than you.. Fast twitch players enjoy mobility and will sacrifice just about anything to get it.. Pure and simple.. sorry to break the truth.. Anyways, peace out DUST.. you broke my heart Their is a reason why they have been nerfed. Stupid. Mabye if CCP could nerf it right, they dont have to nerf it 12 times. What about da heavys. *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
CPM Awox Mexican Justice League 262	Posted - 2015.03.23 02:28:00 - [164] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: The scouts have taken nerf after nerf .. But making me wait 5 seconds before I can shoot or anything else after using cloak is unacceptable and unplayable.. If your goal was to kill this class, then congratulations.. I've been here since Closed Beta and have suffered many stupid nerfs but this is the worst by far. Who's idea was this anyways? Call of Booty crowd that runs this game now? mindless assault drones? First, The problem with being able to shoot from inside cloak was NEVER MORE THAN A VISUAL LAG GLITCH.. which STILL remains the exact same.. But now I have to wait 5 seconds for you to NOT SEE ME pull out my shotty.. This is a scout ending and incredibly STUPID thing to do to my class.. O well, I knew this type of insanity was in the pipeline, but I wont be here to tolerate it.. Im giving up my 40 million SP's and my character because its just downright UNPLAYABLE now.. thanks CCP. Tryhard call of booty forum warriors need to realize one thing.. Scouts are not OP.. they are simply better players than you.. Fast twitch players enjoy mobility and will sacrifice just about anything to get it.. Pure and simple.. sorry to break the truth.. Anyways, peace out DUST.. you broke my heart Have you ever tried playing the class without the cloak? Killed again has Super-Ebola.
Skill 666 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2015.03.23 04:15:00 - [165] - Quote DUUDE SERIOUSLY!?? Didnt the scout come before the cloak???..I guess he cant have fun without a cloak or she possibly??....BUMMER...Cloaks are soo serial. Vacuum fulla Dust Bunnies?
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 643	Posted - 2015.03.23 06:18:00 - [166] - Quote The scout is not a slayer class, it's a SCOUT class. Go look up the definition of the word scout. You could do something crazy, like I don't know... Joining a squad and... scouting for them? Maybe hack a point and toss an uplink? Honestly, I think scouts should only have two side arms, be glad I'm not the one working on things at CCP. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1854	Posted - 2015.03.23 06:19:00 - [167] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: You could play with out the cloak. I (and many others) don't use it. Scouts managed just fine when the cloak didn't even exist. Anyway, go back to preventing forest fires. I'm sure that's more fun than DUST. No. Only YOU can prevent forest fires. Prevent? oops Crush them
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8232	Posted - 2015.03.23 08:21:00 - [168] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Go look up the definition of the word scout. You could do something crazy, like I don't know... Joining a squad and... scouting for them? If I wanted to scout for my squad, why would I run anything other than GalLogi? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1854	Posted - 2015.03.23 08:42:00 - [169] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: Go look up the definition of the word scout. You could do something crazy, like I don't know... Joining a squad and... scouting for them? If I wanted to scout for my squad, why would I run anything other than GalLogi? Knowing whether 3 heavies or 3 starter fits are holding a position is one reason. Scouts can also travel much faster unsupported. Crush them
Vyzion Eyri WarRavens 2652	Posted - 2015.03.23 08:59:00 - [170] - Quote Skipped the 9 pages so apologies if it's already mentioned, but how I use my scout is that I just select my weapon 5 seconds before I know I'm within range of the enemy. Just sayin'. > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1090	Posted - 2015.03.29 07:05:00 - [171] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Knowing whether 3 heavies or 3 starter fits are holding a position is one reason. Scouts can also travel much faster unsupported. With a cloaked scout you can't even tell whether or not there are enemies within a 10 foot radius. If you're lucky you'll get a 40m radius if you uncloak and enemies don't see and destroy your paper thin suit. Active scans still have directionals so it won't even matter what they are, you can go around the enemy because you know exactly how they're oriented. You don't need too much mobility when your scans reach 100+ meters out, not to mention proper logies never leave the squad radius so unsupported isn't a loss on the logi front. Again what are the benefits? I couldn't find them in the analogical reasoning that fails to account for the benefit of both suits. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
Gemini Cuspid 141	Posted - 2015.03.29 08:45:00 - [172] - Quote The 'scouts are paper thin" argument really holds no water when your asking ppl to shoot at scouts that have improved mobility thanks to myo modules along with lower hit boxes that are calculated. Scouts will typically loose out on a straight gun fight if there is no terrain to their advantage but most scouts typically avoid a straight shoot-out that they can't seem use to their benefit in closing the range or terrain. Yes I can see your scout from afar "sometimes", at the same rate my scanners don't always pick you up. Likewise even if I see you from afar, it's 100% possible to literally move a dozen or so meters left/right and a player is now forced to ask if the scout actually left or will they pop up with a nova knife or shotgun in 8 seconds so you may need to walk dozens of meters needing to watch your front and back. Yes i don't know any other suit that has this "so-called problem". Also don't give me the "omgz wtf bbq yo scouts have been nerfed from day 1" as they were given an extra slot just for their friggin cloaks. So yeah nerf grenades, yea and nerf logi with the whole speed and useless class bonuses. At the end of the day scouts have it so hard and that's why it's one of the most common fits run because it's just SOOO BAAD... Yeah cry me a river OP....
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1091	Posted - 2015.03.29 10:38:00 - [173] - Quote Gemini Cuspid wrote: The 'scouts are paper thin" argument really holds no water when your asking ppl to shoot at scouts that have improved mobility thanks to myo modules along with lower hit boxes that are calculated. Scouts will typically loose out on a straight gun fight if there is no terrain to their advantage but most scouts typically avoid a straight shoot-out that they can't seem use to their benefit in closing the range or terrain. No it does, any good scout will use mainly e-war, or at least that's what was meant to be. There's nothing prevent a scout from brick tanking and being a slayer other than that assault suits do a better job of it now. The scout role is currently fcked because rather than nerfing tanking on scouts, or making e-war slot intensive ratatati decided to make E-war a thing that takes up x more amount of slots than an active scanner and make it worse than the active scanner no matter how much E-war you stack. Gemini Cuspid wrote:* Yes I can see your scout from afar "sometimes", at the same rate my scanners don't always pick you up. Likewise even if I see you from afar, it's 100% possible to literally move a dozen or so meters left/right and a player is now forced to ask if the scout actually left or will they pop up with a nova knife or shotgun in 8 seconds so you may need to walk dozens of meters needing to watch your front and back. The time it takes for a scout suit to go down is significantly less than any other suit, even if you get ambushed by one it isn't an issue to dispatch with half decent aim. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 191	Posted - 2015.04.01 03:24:00 - [174] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: The scout is not a slayer class, it's a SCOUT class. Go look up the definition of the word scout. You could do something crazy, like I don't know... Joining a squad and... scouting for them? Maybe hack a point and toss an uplink? Honestly, I think scouts should only have two side arms, be glad I'm not the one working on things at CCP. So shouldn't a scout class have scans? We have none left.. What about camps? They took that too.. Literally NoO passive scans .. A heavy can walk up behind any advanced scout without being seen.. And I'm being picked up by passive scans from both assault and logos before they show on mine... So yo take everything that defines the class.. Then you Nerf damage.. And make it fukn stupid to even try to pull out a weapon.. What's left? Answer..just me .. And anyone claiming that they just pull out their fun 5 seconds early isn't a real scout.. That works less than half the time.. Far less.. Ever been surprised in your no ewar scout? Surrounded? Any # of other scenarios make that a load of crap that COBooty fans might think is plausible.
Stupid Blueberry The Darkhunter Society 1059	Posted - 2015.04.01 04:18:00 - [175] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Real Scouts don't need cloaks. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen. Blueberry smokin' that crack y'all
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 191	Posted - 2015.04.02 07:17:00 - [176] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Real Scouts don't need cloaks. Your a real scout? Lol... All I see is assault posers in this thread...
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2001	Posted - 2015.04.02 07:52:00 - [177] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Real Scouts don't need cloaks. Your a real scout? Lol... All I see is assault posers in this thread... That's coz you can't see the real scouts dude :-p
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 369	Posted - 2015.04.02 07:58:00 - [178] - Quote scout + cloak = melee killer scout, not gun fighter. Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro Logibro2
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2265	Posted - 2015.04.02 08:06:00 - [179] - Quote Mregomies wrote: scout + cloak = melee killer scout, not gun fighter. Does my Shotty count as a gun? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 369	Posted - 2015.04.02 08:21:00 - [180] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Mregomies wrote: scout + cloak = melee killer scout, not gun fighter. Does my Shotty count as a gun? If it is your cup of tea. Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro Logibro2



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