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Smoky The Bear
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Posted - 2014.11.16 09:16:00 -
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The scouts have taken nerf after nerf .. But making me wait 5 seconds before I can shoot or anything else after using cloak is unacceptable and unplayable.. If your goal was to kill this class, then congratulations..
I've been here since Closed Beta and have suffered many stupid nerfs but this is the worst by far. Who's idea was this anyways? Call of Booty crowd that runs this game now? mindless assault drones?
First, The problem with being able to shoot from inside cloak was NEVER MORE THAN A VISUAL LAG GLITCH.. which STILL remains the exact same.. But now I have to wait 5 seconds for you to NOT SEE ME pull out my shotty.. This is a scout ending and incredibly STUPID thing to do to my class..
O well, I knew this type of insanity was in the pipeline, but I wont be here to tolerate it.. Im giving up my 40 million SP's and my character because its just downright UNPLAYABLE now.. thanks CCP.
Tryhard call of booty forum warriors need to realize one thing.. Scouts are not OP.. they are simply better players than you.. Fast twitch players enjoy mobility and will sacrifice just about anything to get it.. Pure and simple.. sorry to break the truth..
Anyways, peace out DUST.. you broke my heart |
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Posted - 2014.11.16 09:35:00 -
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yes I was.. but after all the nerfs to compensate for the cloak.. no longer possible.. too many proto one shotters to go back... I have no scans! wtf good is a scout with no scans?
So your answer is to use no cloak... because you know damn well to use the cloak now.. is... just dumb... like you |
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Posted - 2014.11.16 13:00:00 -
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Been here since this game started.. Ive played better than you.. with or without a cloak.. that never changes.. and thats not the point.. the class is now BROKEN.. and nobody will play it anymore.. including me.. Because Ill be playing a game that doesnt have the worst shooting mechanics of ANY first person shooter made..
I only played dust because it had some things that were not like other shooters.. Now its just point and click shooter like COD, with STUPID mechanics.. no straffing.. actually nothing original or fun left here.. moving on
and for the guy who put "1 second delay" was dead wrong.. I counted "1 thousand one.. 1 thousand 2 .. 1 thousand 3.. before the gun even shows up.. then half the time it wont shoot.. or shoots late..
And for all the forum warriors who conveniently ignore the whole point.. this nerf was supposed to fix the shooting while cloaked animation.. it DID NOT FIX IT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. |
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Posted - 2014.11.16 13:22:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:True Adamance wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:The scouts have taken nerf after nerf .. But making me wait 5 seconds before I can shoot or anything else after using cloak is unacceptable and unplayable.. If your goal was to kill this class, then congratulations..
I've been here since Closed Beta and have suffered many stupid nerfs but this is the worst by far. Who's idea was this anyways? Call of Booty crowd that runs this game now? mindless assault drones?
First, The problem with being able to shoot from inside cloak was NEVER MORE THAN A VISUAL LAG GLITCH.. which STILL remains the exact same.. But now I have to wait 5 seconds for you to NOT SEE ME pull out my shotty.. This is a scout ending and incredibly STUPID thing to do to my class..
O well, I knew this type of insanity was in the pipeline, but I wont be here to tolerate it.. Im giving up my 40 million SP's and my character because its just downright UNPLAYABLE now.. thanks CCP.
Tryhard call of booty forum warriors need to realize one thing.. Scouts are not OP.. they are simply better players than you.. Fast twitch players enjoy mobility and will sacrifice just about anything to get it.. Pure and simple.. sorry to break the truth..
Anyways, peace out DUST.. you broke my heart No reason if you are using the Cloak as a tactical tool and not a silent delivery system for a shotgun this should impact your gameplay all that much. ^ Smoky The Bear wrote:Been here since this game started.. Ive played better than you.. with or without a cloak.. that never changes.. and thats not the point.. the class is now BROKEN.. and nobody will play it anymore.. including me.. Because Ill be playing a game that doesnt have the worst shooting mechanics of ANY first person shooter made..
I only played dust because it had some things that were not like other shooters.. Now its just point and click shooter like COD, with STUPID mechanics.. no straffing.. actually nothing original or fun left here.. moving on
and for the guy who put "1 second delay" was dead wrong.. I counted "1 thousand one.. 1 thousand 2 .. 1 thousand 3.. before the gun even shows up.. then half the time it wont shoot.. or shoots late..
And for all the forum warriors who conveniently ignore the whole point.. this nerf was supposed to fix the shooting while cloaked animation.. it DID NOT FIX IT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. You're the one ignoring your own point mate. Seriously, I wish there was a LOL button next to the Like button for me to use. To paraphrase you: - cloak changes broke scout role - i'm a great player without the cloak - I'm leaving coz scouts are broken without cloak and the game is generally crap TTFN
What part of that didnt you understand.? thanks for the paraphrase
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Posted - 2015.01.01 07:16:00 -
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Im the BEST scout in DUST bishes.. Before the cloak came out.. and AFTER .. now eat a phatty forum warriors.. never heard of ANY of you.. lol |
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Posted - 2015.01.17 00:48:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:The thing is :
We have now 2 new things that affect negatively the cloak A 2 second (approx) DELAY while decloaking A 3 second (approx) delay while changing to a weapon/item
One of them needs to be removed.
Hence the 5 seconds I posted originally.. Dont know how lag affects this, but Im sure it adds time.. |
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Posted - 2015.01.17 00:51:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:Zindorak wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:Zindorak wrote:People are crying because they don't have a thing called Situational Awareness. It's unfortunate. Scouts shouldn't have been nerfed this much Situational awareness?!? I don't call having to have someone on your squad do nothing but look out for scouts situational awareness. Yes the scout should be feared like any other suit in the game This is the ONLY effective counter to a scout suit's ewar. The heavy suit's high HP and damage resistance has huge number of counters to it when running a HMG: - plasma cannon on any suit except a logi suit (on a commando this is an amazing counter) - any heavy suit with a HMG - any non-heavy suit with a range weapon out of a HMG's range (assuming - shotgun/knives on a scout suit - shotgun on any assault or commando suit - REs on any suit And a scout's ewar has only one effective counter: - a squad member on each squad doing nothing but visually looking for a scout, which given the high HP of a tanked scout in many circumstances means them dying before they take out the scout and warning the squad members so they hopefully finish him off before he kills another squad member. No tactic should have such limited counters. Ewar imbalance is more unbalanced than redline sniping. At least when someone redline snipes, I can counter snipe, or forge snipe. That is too few counters but it is still better than scout ewar. Scouts should have to choose between having HP or being invisible. Currently they can have the best of both worlds. There are different ways of balancing this, but nerfing the cloak is not one of them. stop talking about scouts ewar like you know something.. Have you tried on a Gallente scout lately? I get NO SCANS buddy.. NONE.. you can walk up behind me with a heavy and I wont see you.. Hence the stupid nerfs that were done to balance scouts having cloaks.. now we have no cloaks and **** pooor balancing |
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Posted - 2015.01.17 01:05:00 -
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Helghus Resther wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:yes I was.. but after all the nerfs to compensate for the cloak.. no longer possible.. too many proto one shotters to go back... I have no scans! wtf good is a scout with no scans?
If you or anyone else thinks you are a better scout that doesnt need a cloak, just lol.. see me in the game bish
So your answer is to use no cloak... because you know damn well to use the cloak now.. is... just dumb... like you Sounds like you suck at running scouts, and think that cloaking getting nerfed is actually a big deal.. Me, I never needed cloaks; I used scouts only as faster assaults with smaller hitboxes. It works. If you're going to leave because of this, bye-bye. A player that thought a module was the only thing making a class playable? You won't be missed, trust me.
Same ol song and dance every time the forum warrior come out to play.. Once again, Im the best scout in dust.. Before and after the cloak.. See me on the field.. Keep on trying nobody scout mofo |
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Posted - 2015.01.17 01:10:00 -
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AndyAndio wrote:People on this thread talking about scouts when you see them on the battlefield rocking 900+ HP suits, smh.-
Scouts dont rock 900 suits.. stop lying.. they dont now ..nor did they ever.. If you were to use all plates not sprint or cloak etc.. with full shields.. you still only get around 600.. and cant walk.. heavies would be faster.. SO STFU bish |
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Posted - 2015.03.21 00:24:00 -
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Forums always dumping on scouts because Theres no one representing them. Not enuff real scouts to play the game much less post here.. You can keep following Every whim of the forum warriorncall of booty hos. Or you can use a little fukn common sense... This game was better the day it came out then it is now.. You can't just keep breaking mechanics and calling it a Nerf.. Sad and pathetic no skill having programmers that decided that breaking the cloak mechanic was ok.. Same thing with the mass driver ..swarm launcher. Hey CCP wake up before free to play Tetris comes out and puts you out of business.. Clowns |
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:29:00 -
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Forums always dumping on scouts because Theres no one representing them. Not enuff real scouts to play the game much less post here.. You can keep following Every whim of the forum warriorncall of booty hos. Or you can use a little fukn common sense... This game was better the day it came out then it is now.. You can't just keep breaking mechanics and calling it a Nerf.. Sad and pathetic no skill having programmers that decided that breaking the cloak mechanic was ok.. Same thing with the mass driver ..swarm launcher. Hey CCP wake up before free to play Tetris comes out and puts you out of business.. Clowns |
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:31:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Helghus Resther wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:yes I was.. but after all the nerfs to compensate for the cloak.. no longer possible.. too many proto one shotters to go back... I have no scans! wtf good is a scout with no scans?
If you or anyone else thinks you are a better scout that doesnt need a cloak, just lol.. see me in the game bish
So your answer is to use no cloak... because you know damn well to use the cloak now.. is... just dumb... like you Sounds like you suck at running scouts, and think that cloaking getting nerfed is actually a big deal.. Me, I never needed cloaks; I used scouts only as faster assaults with smaller hitboxes. It works. If you're going to leave because of this, bye-bye. A player that thought a module was the only thing making a class playable? You won't be missed, trust me. Same ol song and dance every time the forum warrior come out to play.. Once again, Im the best scout in dust.. Before and after the cloak.. See me on the field.. Keep on trying nobody scout mofo Jolly? Moody? Kitty? Musturd? Raven? Pseudo? Adipem? Shotty? Void? I'm almost certain that all of those named are better, and yes, I included me despite a lower KDR. (Old starter fit days.)
Bring em ..but they ain't beat me yet.. |
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Posted - 2015.04.01 03:24:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:The scout is not a slayer class, it's a SCOUT class.
Go look up the definition of the word scout.
You could do something crazy, like I don't know... Joining a squad and... scouting for them? Maybe hack a point and toss an uplink?
Honestly, I think scouts should only have two side arms, be glad I'm not the one working on things at CCP.
So shouldn't a scout class have scans? We have none left.. What about camps? They took that too.. Literally NoO passive scans .. A heavy can walk up behind any advanced scout without being seen.. And I'm being picked up by passive scans from both assault and logos before they show on mine...
So yo take everything that defines the class.. Then you Nerf damage.. And make it fukn stupid to even try to pull out a weapon.. What's left? Answer..just me ..
And anyone claiming that they just pull out their fun 5 seconds early isn't a real scout.. That works less than half the time.. Far less.. Ever been surprised in your no ewar scout? Surrounded? Any # of other scenarios make that a load of crap that COBooty fans might think is plausible.
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Smoky The Bear
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Posted - 2015.04.02 07:17:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Real Scouts don't need cloaks.
Your a real scout? Lol... All I see is assault posers in this thread... |
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Posted - 2015.04.06 06:13:00 -
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SOGZ PANDA wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:You could play with out the cloak. I (and many others) don't use it. Scouts managed just fine when the cloak didn't even exist.
Anyway, go back to preventing forest fires. I'm sure that's more fun than DUST. To be fair, i do the same thing and don't use the cloak. But then you delve into a new problem where you're putting a new item into the game that is effectively useless and the skill on the scout class makes no sense cause noone will use it. I kind of agree with OP only because it never really cured shooting while cloaked. Was just a bandaid But too much whine for me from OP
Pick a side you wish washy bish |
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:49:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:From a non-scout perspective: un-cloak should not have animation, because people still see cloaked scout shooting at them.
From a scout perspective: i've learned to un-cloak a little before and the timing is almost fine, but the fix have a problem, sometime it does not change to weapon and you have to press again, that's annoying, but the timing is ok.
The greatest problem are for those who tank scouts, no more charging like bulls in front of the enemy, you can have a lot of HP but if the enemy see you, you are half dead, no more 99% chance of success.
People who say the learned to uncloak earlier are either not scouts or just trying to look tuff.. That only works if you are following somebody.. Which is less than 30% of all situations we find ourselves in.. |
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