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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.30 06:08:00 -
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Destiny is ******* god awful... It's essentially Mass Effect with 10% of the actual content with some Halo on the side.
At least this game is unique, has replay value, almost endless customization, and the matches are actually substantial and take real effort to win.
This game rivals Star Wars Battlefront for **** sake. If it had a fleshed out story it would be even better than SWB.
All Destiny is managing to accomplish is making me want to play Mass Effect again... and conning $60 out of me. I probably won't be buying the DLC expansion pass for it. Such a mediocre game...
Who designs a RPG with level up based on LUCK!?
So what's FOTM?
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Posted - 2014.09.30 06:13:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Destiny is ******* god awful... It's essentially Mass Effect with 10% of the actual content with some Halo on the side.
At least this game is unique, has replay value, almost endless customization, and the matches are actually substantial and take real effort to win.
This game rivals Star Wars Battlefront for **** sake. If it had a fleshed out story it would be even better than SWB.
All Destiny is managing to accomplish is making me want to play Mass Effect again... and conning $60 out of me. I probably won't be buying the DLC expansion pass for it. Such a mediocre game...
Who designs a RPG with level up based on LUCK!?
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X7 lion
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.09.30 06:18:00 -
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Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait.......
Do not contribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance.
being contradictory is not the same as being offensive.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.09.30 06:52:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait.......
Dust causes you to grind for progression & isk. Destiny makes you grind for *everything*.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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Mobius Kaethis
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.30 06:59:00 -
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I have to agree. It is a horribly boring game.
Now with more evil.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.30 06:59:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait.......
PvP in a shooter is supposed to be a grind.
However PvE is NOT. Mulling over the same 4 maps, checking the same locations for the same items.. is NOT good RPG design. A good adventure RPG is supposed to keep you on your toes, not letting you know what to expect.
In Dust skill is accumulated by the actual time you spend playing. In Destiny it's BASED ON LUCK with time spent being almost irrelevant, because in 2-3 weeks you'll already have the best kind of armor, and you'll realize that's how you level up is by upgrading your armor with ****** RNG based item drops.
Did I mention skill doesn't even matter in PvP unless Bungie feels like releasing the "Iron Banner" because normal Crucible mode has level advantages disabled? Yeah. It's a copy paste of Halo with RPG elements.
So what's FOTM?
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2014.09.30 06:59:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait....... Dust causes you to grind for progression & isk. Destiny makes you grind for *everything*.
What else does DUST have besides "progression & isk?"
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.30 07:02:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:What else does DUST have besides "progression & isk?"
Content. Dust has more classes, more skills, more weapons, more depth. For **** sake Destiny doesn't even have more maps or areas to explore than Dust does. Destiny doesn't even have a vehicle mode, just those random ass ones you get in, kill **** with, and blow up just like in Halo. It actually has less vehicles than Halo did.
So what's FOTM?
"Subways Italian Foot Long Sub" - IWS
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Ablerober
Sea of Sin
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Posted - 2014.09.30 07:17:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Destiny is ******* god awful... It's essentially Mass Effect with 10% of the actual content with some Halo on the side.
At least this game is unique, has replay value, almost endless customization, and the matches are actually substantial and take real effort to win.
This game rivals Star Wars Battlefront for **** sake. If it had a fleshed out story it would be even better than SWB.
All Destiny is managing to accomplish is making me want to play Mass Effect again... and conning $60 out of me. I probably won't be buying the DLC expansion pass for it. Such a mediocre game...
Who designs a RPG with level up based on LUCK!?
I don't know why everyone keeps comparing Dustiny.
Destiny isn't all that, while Dust keeps dragging me back for more haha |
Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2014.09.30 07:18:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:What else does DUST have besides "progression & isk?"
Content. Dust has more classes, more skills, more weapons, more depth. For **** sake Destiny doesn't even have more maps or areas to explore than Dust does. Destiny doesn't even have a vehicle mode, just those random ass ones you get in, kill **** with, and blow up just like in Halo. It actually has less vehicles than Halo did.
Content that you, more or less, have to grind for. You grind to get content and you grind to get isk to use that content...
which is to say, like Destiny, you grind for *everything*
But not like it matters. People like different things (surprising, I know). I fail to see the point of this thread. You like DUST, and not Destiny? Congrats. Want an oatmeal-raisin cookie moonlighting as a chocolate chip cookie or something?
Or would you prefer a Destiny-hating circle jerk? Or perhaps a levelheaded discussion of a game on a completely unrelated forum?
I am a minotaur.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.30 07:38:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Or would you prefer a Destiny-hating circle jerk? Or perhaps a levelheaded discussion of a game on a completely unrelated forum?
Try doing that on the Bungie forum. You'll be welcomed by an angry mob of fanboys. Or your post will get completely ignored because it's built more like Twitter than an actual forum.
Grinding is what RPGs are made for. Stop trying to say grinding is the probem.
If I decide to replay Mass Effect I will happily grind through wave upon wave of Geth because there are endless ways to explore the universe while you do so.
Dust is like that except where it shines is the character customization which is nearly endless.
The only thing Destiny outperforms the rest with is... uh... fancy graphics and flashy **** I guess?
Ablerober wrote:I don't know why everyone keeps comparing Dustiny.
Destiny isn't all that, while Dust keeps dragging me back for more haha
They're both scifi shooters.
destiny sux
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
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Posted - 2014.09.30 07:45:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait....... PvP in a shooter is supposed to be a grind. However PvE is NOT. Mulling over the same 4 maps, checking the same locations for the same items.. is NOT good RPG design. A good adventure RPG is supposed to keep you on your toes, not letting you know what to expect. In Dust skill is accumulated by the actual time you spend playing. In Destiny it's BASED ON LUCK with time spent being almost irrelevant, because in 2-3 weeks you'll already have the best kind of armor, and you'll realize that's how you level up is by upgrading your armor with ****** RNG based item drops. Did I mention skill doesn't even matter in PvP unless Bungie feels like releasing the "Iron Banner" because normal Crucible mode has level advantages disabled? Yeah. It's a copy paste of Halo with RPG elements.
DO remember that's Destiny is a child in age while Dust is 2yo and still going through the same cycle.
Destiny may be able to fulfill their promises fairly quick rather than after 2 years we still don't have everything promised, suits and vehicles mainly. All the while always inevitably leading to nerfing of this and buffing of that. Which is plainly the work BOTH CCP and people like X7 Lion who apparently look at the instant rather than the over time play of a game.
Also don't forget there are more than 4 planets and plenty of stars that Destiny can be working on right now to make better content than Dust has. Dust also started pretty unbalanced and is still going unbalanced all the while going through a repetitive, endless cycle which hasn't been broken for 2 YEARS
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Orphan Shadow
Waiting For Deployment
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Posted - 2014.09.30 07:48:00 -
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Someone from closed beta told me I needed to "git gud" back in Chromosome. That's why I haven't left. I'm staying until they shut down the servers or I finally realize the goal of that helpful tryhard. He was trying to be helpful, right?
Anyway. I was going to rag on Destiny for the OHK pistol, that "golden gun" thingamabob, but being as we just got the bolt pistol I thought that might be too ironic, for scouts at least. |
Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
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Posted - 2014.09.30 07:50:00 -
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Orphan Shadow wrote:Someone from closed beta told me I needed to "git gud" back in Chromosome. That's why I haven't left. I'm staying until they shut down the servers or I finally realize the goal of that helpful tryhard. He was trying to be helpful, right?
Anyway. I was going to rag on Destiny for the OHK pistol, that "golden gun" thingamabob, but being as we just got the bolt pistol I thought that might be too ironic, for scouts at least.
Lol can I paint it gold? 
Edit: It takes about 2- all 3 shots to kill the tough ones. 
Playstyle: Scout~Passionate In-bred Sniper~Support~Enemy finder
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medomai grey
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.09.30 07:52:00 -
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Just because one pile of turd is bigger than the other doesn't make the smaller of the two piles a diamond.
There's a reason project Legion is even a thing.
What percentile of Dust514's infantry arsenal belongs to the category of machine guns?
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.09.30 08:27:00 -
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Are console kiddies really so naive? Every time the Hype Train comes along promoting some new generic FPS and how "This FPS is going to be THE BEST EVER"
Every time the hype train goes into overdrive, the game ends up being mediocre with a few flashy features. Titanfall, Destiny, etc etc... the list goes on and on.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.09.30 08:29:00 -
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Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait....... PvP in a shooter is supposed to be a grind. However PvE is NOT. Mulling over the same 4 maps, checking the same locations for the same items.. is NOT good RPG design. A good adventure RPG is supposed to keep you on your toes, not letting you know what to expect. In Dust skill is accumulated by the actual time you spend playing. In Destiny it's BASED ON LUCK with time spent being almost irrelevant, because in 2-3 weeks you'll already have the best kind of armor, and you'll realize that's how you level up is by upgrading your armor with ****** RNG based item drops. Did I mention skill doesn't even matter in PvP unless Bungie feels like releasing the "Iron Banner" because normal Crucible mode has level advantages disabled? Yeah. It's a copy paste of Halo with RPG elements. DO remember that's Destiny is a child in age while Dust is 2yo and still going through the same cycle. Destiny may be able to fulfill their promises fairly quick rather than after 2 years we still don't have everything promised, suits and vehicles mainly. All the while always inevitably leading to nerfing of this and buffing of that. Which is plainly the work BOTH CCP and people like X7 Lion who apparently look at the instant rather than the over time play of a game. Also don't forget there are more than 4 planets and plenty of stars that Destiny can be working on right now to make better content than Dust has. Dust also started pretty unbalanced and is still going unbalanced all the while going through a repetitive, endless cycle which hasn't been broken for 2 YEARS
For a second I thought Destiny was tied to EA rather than activision... and I started having flashbacks to warhammer online...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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Skippy Longstocking
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.30 10:24:00 -
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I won't bother debating the pros and cons of each title. Different games appeal to different people, for different reasons.
To come onto the forums for one game to either bash or promote another is little more than pointless trolling. We all know where such a discussion will lead, so why bother?
It's not necessary to rationalize your gaming choices to the internet community. Like one game better than the other? Good for you. Go play it, because I doubt anyone else really cares why.
Also, I never really understood this "one or the other" mentality that gamers have, either.
They're games, you're not married to them. You ARE allowed to play with more than one at a time.
Don't worry, Dust won't get jealous if you spend some time with another game, I promise!  |
steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.09.30 10:26:00 -
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There both just as bad as each other im looking to ubisoft who are at least exploring new ground in there games rainbow six siege looks CS on steroids.
Tbh dispite there stuiped drm policy which they are getting over i cant fault there games, and then have proven to take risks and learn from the results
You can never have to many chaples
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Appia Vibbia
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Posted - 2014.09.30 10:30:00 -
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Both promised one thing upon release. Both were drastically lacking.
Both have 99% of the game's lore offsite. How many people have actually read all the grimoire cards? How many people have read all the DUST fiction?
Both have gear that determines the victor. Destiny's weapon's godstats are Rate of Fire and Impact, higher rarity weapons have higher of the two stats, legendary gear-which only lvl20s can use- will always out perform common, uncommon, and rare gear. DUST has FotM, Dropsuit Upgrades tree that provides permanent bonuses, and SP disparity.
I Spent a bunch of money on both games, expecting it to be more than what I got because that's what they said they would provide.
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Izlare Lenix
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Posted - 2014.09.30 10:54:00 -
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A skilled player in Dust can use militia gear and kill players using proto gear.
Can low level gear kill high level gear in Destiny? I honestly don't know as that game had always looked stupid and childish to me but I am curious about the difference in gear strength.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.09.30 11:31:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait....... Dust causes you to grind for progression & isk. Destiny makes you grind for *everything*. What else does DUST have besides "progression & isk?"
Sycophants.
The sig is back! K/D(r) matchmaking would even fix the matchmaking fix.
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castba
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Posted - 2014.09.30 11:44:00 -
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It would be nice if Dust controlled like Destiny does.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.09.30 12:24:00 -
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Why are you sh*t-talking Mass Effect?
Shoot scout with yes.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.09.30 12:35:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Are console kiddies really so naive? Every time the Hype Train comes along promoting some new generic FPS and how "This FPS is going to be THE BEST EVER"
Every time the hype train goes into overdrive, the game ends up being mediocre with a few flashy features. Titanfall, Destiny, etc etc... the list goes on and on.
At least titan fall delivered on its feel at the start. Just gets boring after a while.
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Skippy Longstocking
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:31:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:A skilled player in Dust can use militia gear and kill players using proto gear.
Can low level gear kill high level gear in Destiny? I honestly don't know as that game had always looked stupid and childish to me but I am curious about the difference in gear strength.
In regular multiplayer game modes, while you still use your regular character, certain aspects, such as Damage and Defence ratings are "normalized" to level the playing field and ensure balanced gameplay.
However, there is also a multiplayer mode called "Iron Banner", in which this "normalization" is turned off, and all stats and gear advantages apply. |
DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:52:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Why are you sh*t-talking Mass Effect?
I was PRAISING Mass Effect. Read what I said again, idiot, and this time with some reading comprehension. The game was made 7 years ago and far outshines Destiny.
Appia Vibbia wrote:Both have gear that determines the victor. Destiny's weapon's godstats are Rate of Fire and Impact, higher rarity weapons have higher of the two stats, legendary gear-which only lvl20s can use- will always out perform common, uncommon, and rare gear. DUST has FotM, Dropsuit Upgrades tree that provides permanent bonuses, and SP disparity.
That's hardly true at all. The only difference exotic and legendary weapons will have in the crucible are insignificant things like granting "invisibility" when you aim down a sniper scope or like sustained fire increasing accuracy that REALLY aren't that great. http://youtu.be/zq8Pcl4GtBc?t=2m20s Legendary weapons (for those of you who don't know, are the second best kind) are just as good as the exotics and have most of the same upgrades, and even the next step down Rare will have some of the more decent ones. These are VERY small differences that you can unlock through only a couple weeks of gameplay.
What really matters in that game's PvP are the class skills that you level up like the Bladedancer that everyone cries about on the internet saying it's OP. And again you can unlock ALL of these skills within three weeks of playing the game.
And Appia honey... I hate to break this to you but each weapon has very well balanced RoF and Impact so that no gun is really outperforming any other. They just got done nerfing the AR's range, which actually WAS a "god stat" so I'm pretty sure there's no other way to exploit PvP right now except by quick scoping and maxing out your super charge (which is again, easy to achieve.)
Dust makes you appreciate the skills each class offers much, much more by making you EARN them. Some people might not like this exceptionally slow progression but don't ******* kid yourselves, you wouldn't BE HERE if you didn't like it.
Quote:It would be nice if Dust controlled like Destiny does.
You have a point there. The DS4 really handles nicely with that game compared to Dust. But I think as long as you are setting your sensitivity in Dust a little lower than the default you'll be fine.
It really is a nice change of pace not to have Scouts dancing in circles around my Sentinel, I'll give you that. Instead people just jump around each other or rush in kamikaze.
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.30 14:05:00 -
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I believe Dust failed at pushing the team aspect. I don't think Uprising should have been released when it was.
I believe not releasing a low risk team deploy alongside planetary conquest was something that set Dust back. If there would have been thousands of players involved in planetary conquest as well as a more vibrant FW system I think Dust would be a much more popular game.
Instead the mechanics of planetary conquest catered to the most elite players in Dust and widened the gap between the best players and the casual players. This led to horrible experiences in public matches because there was simply nothing else for the elite players to do. It would be like the releasing null and low sec players into high sec without Concord.
I think CCP did a horrible job marketing the game, but releasing it too early really set them back in that area.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.30 14:13:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I believe Dust failed at pushing the team aspect. I don't think Uprising should have been released when it was.
*sees first sentence and does not read text wall*
Bro, Dust did EXCELLENT compared to Destiny. There isn't even a team chat! There isn't a way to join Clans without logging onto Bungie.net! The teams are half the size and the maps are 1/5 the size!
destiny sux
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
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Posted - 2014.09.30 14:36:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I believe Dust failed at pushing the team aspect. I don't think Uprising should have been released when it was. *sees first sentence and does not read text wall* Bro, Dust did EXCELLENT compared to Destiny. There isn't even a team chat! There isn't a way to join Clans without logging onto Bungie.net! The teams are half the size and the maps are 1/5 the size!
I failed to compare Dust to Destiny. I am only saying this is where I believe they missed out. Perhaps they had more envisioned and the failings of Uprising derailed things miserably.
I think you only have to pull up team chat to look at 80-90% of teams made up of solo players to see evidence of this. When you factor in that a lot of those solo players are new to the game it's easy to see why there is a constant rotation of new players in Dust, but the overall number of players logging in is not increasing.
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CLONE OF MANY
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:01:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I believe Dust failed at pushing the team aspect. I don't think Uprising should have been released when it was.
I think CCP did a horrible job marketing the game, but releasing it too early really set them back in that area.
Dust does great at pushing the team aspect imho.
Marketing with the state of NPE and matchmaking up until now could have very easily been a BAD investment. Both of these have gotten better with Delta, hopefully it will lead to more new player retention and a little bit of actual growth in Dust which could lead to them actually deciding to step up the advertising some in an effort to keep it rolling which personally I doubt that as they do not seem to have created a new road map for Dust / Legion.
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DozersMouse XIII
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:21:00 -
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who gives a ****
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:25:00 -
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CLONE OF MANY wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I believe Dust failed at pushing the team aspect. I don't think Uprising should have been released when it was.
I think CCP did a horrible job marketing the game, but releasing it too early really set them back in that area. Dust does great at pushing the team aspect imho. Marketing with the state of NPE and matchmaking up until now could have very easily been a BAD investment. Both of these have gotten better with Delta, hopefully it will lead to more new player retention and a little bit of actual growth in Dust which could lead to them actually deciding to step up the advertising some in an effort to keep it rolling which personally I doubt that as they do not seem to have created a new road map for Dust / Legion.
There is no way to team deploy outside of PC and most players deploy solo.
That's not capitalizing on the team aspects.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:27:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:who gives a ****
people who arent bitter mag vets. the way you guys bromance with each other over that game i'm glad i never played it
destiny sux
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:30:00 -
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this reminds me a lot of the PS4 vs Xbone arguements. Arrrrgh, they are so annoying. I don't get why gamers have to prove to everyone how hardcore they are by saying how much they dislike something.
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:31:00 -
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Dust 514 is soooo addictive like a sweet drug btw.........destiny can't compete it's like gta 2 vs gta SA |
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Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:38:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:40:00 -
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Riruodo wrote:this reminds me a lot of the PS4 vs Xbone arguements. Arrrrgh, they are so annoying. I don't get why gamers have to prove to everyone how hardcore they are by saying how much they dislike something.
It's not about that at all. People on the Bungie forum rage and rage at us for criticizing Destiny, but if we didn't do it, nothing would change and the game would not improve. It would just become about making money and not making quality games.
And yeah, you know what? You're god damn right I want to prove I'm a hardcore gamer. Because I've played some of the best games out there and I can effectively critique any game and accurately tell you whether or not it's even worth dropping a dollar on. I didn't spend almost two decades of my life gaming just to sit there and not tell it how it is.
But it's not about stroking my e-peen. It's about putting game developers under pressure to keep raising the bar.
destiny sux
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:42:00 -
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Destiny is too grindy at the endgame. Thats why im playing Dust more at the minute. Shame the hole in the wall got fixed.
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SoTa Senpai
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:43:00 -
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I am one of the biggest haters CCP has - and even I admit Dust is a better game then Destiny.
The problem with grind isn't the grind itself, as literally every game can be called a grind - that's why immersion is so important. It distracts us away from remembering the only thing we're doing is grinding.
In Dust we have the best community and communication tools any console has to offer for any game. For this SOLE reason alone - the grind in Dust is negated. Why? Because you can make a channel, invite literally all your friends, and just talk to them without there being an 8 person limit. You could even use Dust just as a voice tool, switch TV input to PS4 - and talk using PS3 to more then 8 people as you all play together on PS4, or different things.
There's a lot of freedom in channels that offers Dust flexibility, where in Destiny there's no such communication tools - and match making is LOL, as you'll never know if the people with you will be good or diehards.
So you don't have others deflecting the grind from being immediately that - a grind. So what does Destiny offer those who want to be more then casual?
NOTHING.
Where in Dust - if you want to be hardcore - the rewards for the effort really come together. Take my main for example - I'm pretty sure the majority of you would kill to have a toon with that much SP and well placed points. But in Destiny there's no such reward, you just got a slightly cooler model for your gun or helmet, you know, that same helmet and gun everyone else has and took them a whole day to get.
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:48:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:the best community
Yeeeeeeeeeeeah... No.
IDK maybe... It IS better than the other video game communities.
destiny sux
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
2308
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:49:00 -
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There are 3 main areas that CCP should take away from Destiny.
1. The controls are amazing. You can have very precise aiming but also fast tracking at the same time. This is because there is a non-linear relationship between the right stick and the aiming reticule. I would love for CCP to have the guys reverse engineer the control settings and bring them into DUST.
2. It's polished. You don't get stuck on terrain, or have to jump to make it over a 2" curb. I'd love it if we could get some more refinement in this aspect of the game.
3. The enemy AI is very solid. I hope CCP can study this and apply what they've learned to Legion. Shooting stupid AI gets boring fast.
Best PvE idea ever!
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J0hlss0n
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
196
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:49:00 -
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Yeah, I still remember the good old days of Dust, like when you had to pay for a UVT to be able to talk to people in corp chat... good times, good times... |
Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
272
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:51:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Riruodo wrote:this reminds me a lot of the PS4 vs Xbone arguements. Arrrrgh, they are so annoying. I don't get why gamers have to prove to everyone how hardcore they are by saying how much they dislike something. It's not about that at all. People on the Bungie forum rage and rage at us for criticizing Destiny, but if we didn't do it, nothing would change and the game would not improve. It would just become about making money and not making quality games. And yeah, you know what? You're god damn right I want to prove I'm a hardcore gamer. Because I've played some of the best games out there and I can effectively critique any game and accurately tell you whether or not it's even worth dropping a dollar on. I didn't spend almost two decades of my life gaming just to sit there and not tell it how it is. But it's not about stroking my e-peen. It's about putting game developers under pressure to keep raising the bar.
huh... ok. lesson learned. (._. )
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
Starter corp for life!!
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:51:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:2. It's polished. You don't get stuck on terrain, or have to jump to make it over a 2" curb. I'd love it if we could get some more refinement in this aspect of the game.
That moment when you spawn on the Moon in Crucible and someone's shooting you so you run backwards and... off a cliff. Yes very polished.
destiny sux
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Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
136
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:59:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Vell0cet wrote:2. It's polished. You don't get stuck on terrain, or have to jump to make it over a 2" curb. I'd love it if we could get some more refinement in this aspect of the game. That moment when you spawn on the Moon in Crucible and someone's shooting you so you run backwards and... off a cliff. Yes very polished.
If you want to talk about spawns then yeah Destiny should implement the fantastical spawn system that's in Ambush . |
SoTa Senpai
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
209
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Posted - 2014.09.30 18:59:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:SoTa Senpai wrote:the best community Yeeeeeeeeeeeah... No. IDK maybe... It IS better than the other video game communities.
for consoles, mind you. I made sure to point that out in my post. :)
PC community would walk all over us - but then again, they have tools to actually BE a community. All we have is what Dust offers and forums - which is still x10 more then anyone else is offering console communities. |
SoTa Senpai
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
209
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Posted - 2014.09.30 19:00:00 -
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J0hlss0n wrote:Yeah, I still remember the good old days of Dust, like when you had to pay for a UVT to be able to talk to people in corp chat... good times, good times...
Lol I remember that. I was 'forced' to buy it if I wanted to play Corp Battles with certain corps. Good times, back when people cared enough to force people to buy AUR, lol. |
DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.30 19:24:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:for consoles, mind you. I made sure to point that out in my post. :)
PC community would walk all over us - but then again, they have tools to actually BE a community. All we have is what Dust offers and forums - which is still x10 more then anyone else is offering console communities.
Yeah but people need to realize PC gaming would be nothing without console gaming. Computers used to be unable to handle high quality audio and video. They were just data crunching machines.
It took a showcase of what television screens could really do, how far they really could immerse us into the audio visual experience. They couldn't just sell a computer with video games on it. They had to exploit the television market to really grab the attention of a broader audience.
*sigh* I wonder how many years it will be before we stop living in the real world and replace it with a virtual one. We're already halfway there now. Kids these days don't even socialize without the web. The suburban streets that used to be filled with people are now empty, replaced with cars and telephone lines.
destiny sux
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4830
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Posted - 2014.09.30 19:33:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:I am one of the biggest haters CCP has - and even I admit Dust is a better game then Destiny.
The problem with grind isn't the grind itself, as literally every game can be called a grind - that's why immersion is so important. It distracts us away from remembering the only thing we're doing is grinding.
In Dust we have the best community and communication tools any console has to offer for any game. For this SOLE reason alone - the grind in Dust is negated. Why? Because you can make a channel, invite literally all your friends, and just talk to them without there being an 8 person limit. You could even use Dust just as a voice tool, switch TV input to PS4 - and talk using PS3 to more then 8 people as you all play together on PS4, or different things.
There's a lot of freedom in channels that offers Dust flexibility, where in Destiny there's no such communication tools - and match making is LOL, as you'll never know if the people with you will be good or diehards.
So you don't have others deflecting the grind from being immediately that - a grind. So what does Destiny offer those who want to be more then casual?
NOTHING.
Where in Dust - if you want to be hardcore - the rewards for the effort really come together. Take my main for example - I'm pretty sure the majority of you would kill to have a toon with that much SP and well placed points. But in Destiny there's no such reward, you just got a slightly cooler model for your gun or helmet, you know, that same helmet and gun everyone else has and took them a whole day to get.
If Dust had PvE there wouldn't be much to talk about except RIP Destiny.
It blows my mind that CCP has pretty much abandoned this game on PS4.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.30 19:34:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:SoTa Senpai wrote:for consoles, mind you. I made sure to point that out in my post. :)
PC community would walk all over us - but then again, they have tools to actually BE a community. All we have is what Dust offers and forums - which is still x10 more then anyone else is offering console communities. Yeah but people need to realize PC gaming would be nothing without console gaming. Computers used to be unable to handle high quality audio and video. They were just data crunching machines. It took a showcase of what television screens could really do, how far they really could immerse us into the audio visual experience. They couldn't just sell a computer with video games on it. They had to exploit the television market to really grab the attention of a broader audience. *sigh* I wonder how many years it will be before we stop living in the real world and replace it with a virtual one. We're already halfway there now. Kids these days don't even socialize without the web. The suburban streets that used to be filled with people are now empty, replaced with cars and telephone lines.
That's because there's nothing to do outside. You have to go waaaaaaay out of your way, like maybe going to a national park or something, to have fun.
Anyways, virtual gaming is almost here. We have Oculus Rift and Sony is developing their own headset too. I say in 5 years, Virtual Reality gaming will be an affordable, common thing.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
Starter corp for life!!
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
377
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Posted - 2014.09.30 19:48:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait.......
I love/play both games. But please play the game before knocking it. BTW I would give it a 6/10 (freaking Activision). Things could have been better.
Logi mk.0, Assault mk.0, Soon to be Scout gk.0 or ck.0
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1917
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait....... PvP in a shooter is supposed to be a grind. However PvE is NOT. Mulling over the same 4 maps, checking the same locations for the same items.. is NOT good RPG design. A good adventure RPG is supposed to keep you on your toes, not letting you know what to expect. In Dust skill is accumulated by the actual time you spend playing. In Destiny it's BASED ON LUCK with time spent being almost irrelevant, because in 2-3 weeks you'll already have the best kind of armor, and you'll realize that's how you level up is by upgrading your armor with ****** RNG based item drops. Did I mention skill doesn't even matter in PvP unless Bungie feels like releasing the "Iron Banner" because normal Crucible mode has level advantages disabled? Yeah. It's a copy paste of Halo with RPG elements.
Iron Banner opens up in October, see you there, I am very lucky...
I am Dust Free, found fun in gaming again,
Destiny, hell yes, Planetside2? Makes dust look like what it is, crap.
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Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
139
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:SoTa Senpai wrote:I am one of the biggest haters CCP has - and even I admit Dust is a better game then Destiny.
The problem with grind isn't the grind itself, as literally every game can be called a grind - that's why immersion is so important. It distracts us away from remembering the only thing we're doing is grinding.
In Dust we have the best community and communication tools any console has to offer for any game. For this SOLE reason alone - the grind in Dust is negated. Why? Because you can make a channel, invite literally all your friends, and just talk to them without there being an 8 person limit. You could even use Dust just as a voice tool, switch TV input to PS4 - and talk using PS3 to more then 8 people as you all play together on PS4, or different things.
There's a lot of freedom in channels that offers Dust flexibility, where in Destiny there's no such communication tools - and match making is LOL, as you'll never know if the people with you will be good or diehards.
So you don't have others deflecting the grind from being immediately that - a grind. So what does Destiny offer those who want to be more then casual?
NOTHING.
Where in Dust - if you want to be hardcore - the rewards for the effort really come together. Take my main for example - I'm pretty sure the majority of you would kill to have a toon with that much SP and well placed points. But in Destiny there's no such reward, you just got a slightly cooler model for your gun or helmet, you know, that same helmet and gun everyone else has and took them a whole day to get.
If Dust had PvE there wouldn't be much to talk about except RIP Destiny. It blows my mind that CCP has pretty much abandoned this game on PS4.
I don't see how it should . If it made sense financially they would had announced that Dust would be ported on the ps4 or that they would continue content/feature updates . Since they did neither then Dust most likely didn't justify the investment i.e Dust didn't make much money to do either. |
Imp Smash
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
236
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Posted - 2014.10.01 06:49:00 -
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Something to consider:
Destiny and it's (purported -- dont know if it's actually true) 500 million dollar production costs is smaller, more bland, and has less customization than Dust. And it cost 60 bucks where as dust is free to play.
You know CCP get's a lot of ****, and rightly so considering some of the problems it has, but Dust probably has more replayability than Destiny.
For the lolz:
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Unlucky Fluke
The Rainbow Effect
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:who gives a **** people who arent bitter mag vets. the way you guys bromance with each other over that game i'm glad i never played it
The ignorance is strong in you!
RIP KB!
100 K kills, you made it after all.
MAG was better!
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Cavani1EE7
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:who gives a **** i'm glad i never played it
I feel sorry for you, dude
Expert Intervetion is my home
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DozersMouse XIII
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
887
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Posted - 2014.10.01 18:24:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:who gives a **** people who arent bitter mag vets. the way you guys bromance with each other over that game i'm glad i never played it
probably better you never did lol
M.A.G. Platinum trophy holder
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Iron Banner opens up in October, see you there, I am very lucky...
After realizing there's no real way to get ascendant shards (level up) except playing Vault of Glass (6 person PvE raid that's supposed to be very difficult), I really couldn't give a **** about the Iron Banner. It's just going to be another Crucible except if you're not level 30, you won't win.
There's absolutely no way to find a raid group in-game. You literally have to search Bungie.net or something for a group. And this leaves you stuck with randoms who you don't even know or trust. The whole thing my DUST514 corp was going to do by pulling everyone into Destiny kind of fell apart with most of them either buying the PS3 version or not even buying Destiny. So I literally will have to put up with a group of 5 strangers on a stupidly hard raid just to level up my ******* character in the worst RPG ever made.
I was so pissed off when it seemed to me like the progress bar said I was one armor upgrade away from Light Level 28, then when I upgraded my armor I was ONE LIGHT away from leveling up... it's like wow there isn't actually a way to get ONE LIGHT. You are given it in chunks of like 3 or 4 once you upgrade your armor with ascendant shards.
Literally the only other way to get ascendant shards in that game is to find a public event on Patrol mode every day. Which is basically a re-hash of the same stupid low level enemies over and over again that you've already beaten before. And it only works for certain the first time each day, there is a pretty low chance of getting more shards by doing more public events, which happen about once every 20 minutes on average, in the WORST exploration mode of any game ever. For Christ's sake, Mario 64 had better exploration.
Oh and by the way? There's a chance you'll get ascendant ENERGY instead of shards, which go toward leveling up your weapon instead of your character. So yeah today I did not even get one ascendant shard after working at least a couple hours on it, and I have way too many ascendant shards that I don't need.
destiny sux
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.10.03 05:36:00 -
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Okay, Dust 514 and Destiny are two separate games that are VERY VERY different from each other. Can we stop comparing them please?
Can we also stop playing KING OF THE HILL with the games? Thanks, most appreciated.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
407
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Posted - 2014.10.03 10:49:00 -
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I play both games, and I have to sadly agree with most of the complaints for Destiny.
When it comes to PVP I think Dust have nailed it. Perhaps not on the technical aspects, but the functional level.
Also also think it's a relevant discussion (perhaps more so in the Legion forums though) since if/when we get Legion I don't want CCP to make the same mistakes as Bungie.
Well, at least Destiny HAVE PVE...
Some more:
http://youtu.be/S5SCXhxNg4A
http://youtu.be/EHVtZsCZ1TA
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:00:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Destiny is ******* god awful... It's essentially Mass Effect with 10% of the actual content with some Halo on the side.
At least this game is unique, has replay value, almost endless customization, and the matches are actually substantial and take real effort to win.
This game rivals Star Wars Battlefront for **** sake. If it had a fleshed out story it would be even better than SWB.
All Destiny is managing to accomplish is making me want to play Mass Effect again... and conning $60 out of me. I probably won't be buying the DLC expansion pass for it. Such a mediocre game...
Who designs a RPG with level up based on LUCK!?
They both suck.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:03:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait....... PvP in a shooter is supposed to be a grind. However PvE is NOT. Mulling over the same 4 maps, checking the same locations for the same items.. is NOT good RPG design. A good adventure RPG is supposed to keep you on your toes, not letting you know what to expect. In Dust skill is accumulated by the actual time you spend playing. In Destiny it's BASED ON LUCK with time spent being almost irrelevant, because in 2-3 weeks you'll already have the best kind of armor, and you'll realize that's how you level up is by upgrading your armor with ****** RNG based item drops. Did I mention skill doesn't even matter in PvP unless Bungie feels like releasing the "Iron Banner" because normal Crucible mode has level advantages disabled? Yeah. It's a copy paste of Halo with RPG elements.
I think you have your pvp backwards. with level advantages disabled and everyone on a level playing field, that is more skill than some nub who has grinded for hours upon end and simply has better armor and guns but not better gun game. I predict Iron Banner will be one giant fail.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
1146
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:05:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Or would you prefer a Destiny-hating circle jerk? Or perhaps a levelheaded discussion of a game on a completely unrelated forum? Try doing that on the Bungie forum. You'll be welcomed by an angry mob of fanboys. Or your post will get completely ignored because it's built more like Twitter than an actual forum. Grinding is what RPGs are made for. Stop trying to say grinding is the probem. If I decide to replay Mass Effect I will happily grind through wave upon wave of Geth because there are endless ways to explore the universe while you do so. Dust is like that except where it shines is the character customization which is nearly endless. The only thing Destiny outperforms the rest with is... uh... fancy graphics and flashy **** I guess? Ablerober wrote:I don't know why everyone keeps comparing Dustiny.
Destiny isn't all that, while Dust keeps dragging me back for more haha They're both scifi shooters.
Dust has its share of fanboys too or have you not been reading these forums the last couple of years?
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:13:00 -
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Avinash Decker wrote:DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Vell0cet wrote:2. It's polished. You don't get stuck on terrain, or have to jump to make it over a 2" curb. I'd love it if we could get some more refinement in this aspect of the game. That moment when you spawn on the Moon in Crucible and someone's shooting you so you run backwards and... off a cliff. Yes very polished. If you want to talk about spawns then yeah Destiny should totally implement the fantastical spawn system that's in Ambush .
This seems to be a common trend in most pvp shooter these days with bull shite spawns. Destiny has had its share of spawning me right in front of dudes for no reason. cod does this same bs and dust spawns are just as bad. the only safe place to spawn in bf4 is in your own base, otherwise, good luck. I will say one thing for destiny though, you do not get stuck permanently on a small pebble. |
Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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After watching some Destiny videos on youtube I-Śm finding it hard to compare those two games together. If only we had DUST514 on PS4. 
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2014.10.03 13:10:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:After watching some Destiny videos on youtube I-Śm finding it hard to compare those two games together. If only we had DUST514 on PS4.
If dust was on ps4, i would actually think about returning. Destiny is just blah. I prefer pvp. The pvp in destiny has wizards, robin hoods and teen titans. Seems too comic book for my tastes. Oh it is ok if you just want to jump in have a few quickies and do not have time to do otherwise, but if you have ample free time in the day, why on earth would you want to just have a bunch of quickies. I prefer longer games. MAG anyone( except for the occasional sabo stomp) Dust, Bf4. They each have their own niche and their own pros and cons.
The pros of destiny are my female awoken hunter and female human warlock look really hot with great big bazongas. Dust, is just meh looking clone.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.10.03 13:49:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Okay, Dust 514 and Destiny are two separate games that are VERY VERY different from each other. Can we stop comparing them please?
Can we also stop playing KING OF THE HILL with the games? Thanks, most appreciated.
QQ apples and oranges are two fruits that are VERY different from each other!!!1!!!1111!!!!
And you know what? YOU'RE the one playing king of the hill. I make this thread to denounce the people who "left Dust for Destiny" and you idiots come in here and think I'm trying to do the exact opposite.
It's not the best game, but at least Destiny has woken me up from the coma Dust put me in for an entire year. Now I kind of realize maybe I shouldn't invest so much of my emotions and time into ONE ******* GAME.
That slow EVE grind with a paid subscription **** might work on PC gamers but it's not gonna suck the console players in. If CCP isn't gonna grow the **** up and move their company forward, that's not my problem.
destiny sux
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
142
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Posted - 2014.10.03 13:55:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:If dust was on ps4, i would actually think about returning. Destiny is just blah. I prefer pvp. The pvp in destiny has wizards, robin hoods and teen titans. Seems too comic book for my tastes.
More like the wizards are Biotics from Mass Effect, Exos are Turians, the Vex are Geth... most of the things in that game were completely ripped off of that game.
Yeah CCP is just gonna try to suck even more money out of you than Sony, might as well not even play Legion.
I'm probably gonna just stop playing both games and download Mass Effect from PSN.
destiny sux
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
General Tso's Alliance
759
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Posted - 2014.10.03 14:03:00 -
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Haters everywhere. Plenty of people can, and have, said a hell of alot worse about Dust514.
Even with all of Destiny's flaws, Dust has had over 2 years of content and it's still worse than a fresh Destiny.  |
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2014.10.03 14:07:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:If dust was on ps4, i would actually think about returning. Destiny is just blah. I prefer pvp. The pvp in destiny has wizards, robin hoods and teen titans. Seems too comic book for my tastes. More like the wizards are Biotics from Mass Effect, Exos are Turians, the Vex are Geth... most of the things in that game were completely ripped off of that game. Yeah CCP is just gonna try to suck even more money out of you than Sony, might as well not even play Legion. I'm probably gonna just stop playing both games and download Mass Effect from PSN.
no need to give up on them entirely. if you like sports, try some of those out. the new fifa is out, madden seems to have improved and mlb the show always delivers. the new golf game comes out soon as well. the lego games are usually fun as well. now that bf4 has been fixed, i have gone back to it and have been enjoying myself. oh i do get annoyed at times, but for the most part i am having a blast on bf4.
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan
General Tso's Alliance
1592
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Posted - 2014.10.03 14:13:00 -
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Thanks for your signature OP. No, really.
"I think not having a heart or soul in this case is an asset." - One Eyed King
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
142
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Posted - 2014.10.03 14:21:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Haters everywhere. Plenty of people can, and have, said a hell of alot worse about Dust514. Even with all of Destiny's flaws, Dust has had over 2 years of content and it's still worse than a fresh Destiny.
Dust gives you a sense of identity. There are endless roles to choose from, and taking the one you choose to the max level puts you a cut above the rest and makes you an asset to your team/corporation. The actual depth of the gameplay and the endless replay value of always having more roles and weapons to unlock really makes Dust stand out above the rest.
Dust actually has concrete social features that get you access to everything the game has to offer.
Destiny has NO team chat, no text chat, and overall clumsy and annoying social features that force you to go on a computer and look up "clans" to join just so you can play the endgame 6-man raid, or ANY of the strikes and missions that you really can't beat by yourself.
destiny sux
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2497
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Posted - 2014.10.03 15:20:00 -
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The only major reason why I dislike Destiny is because even with $500M it is somehow an RPG without a story. DUST 514 is a shooter, doesn't need a story and I don't particularly care for one, but upon "Discovering" Destiny's story I was grossly disappointed, and went back to playing other RPGs.
*Shrugs*
To each their own.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Mike De Luca
STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Haters everywhere. Plenty of people can, and have, said a hell of alot worse about Dust514. Even with all of Destiny's flaws, Dust has had over 2 years of content and it's still worse than a fresh Destiny. Dust gives you a sense of identity. There are endless roles to choose from, and taking the one you choose to the max level puts you a cut above the rest and makes you an asset to your team/corporation. The actual depth of the gameplay and the endless replay value of always having more roles and weapons to unlock really makes Dust stand out above the rest. Dust actually has concrete social features that get you access to everything the game has to offer. Destiny has NO team chat, no text chat, and overall clumsy and annoying social features that force you to go on a computer and look up "clans" to join just so you can play the endgame 6-man raid, or ANY of the strikes and missions that you really can't beat by yourself.
You might wanna get rid of the wise from your name seeing as you don't understand the difference between endless and it just taking a long time to get there. And at most there's like 10 main roles, then it's mostly just divided by your racial preference, and half of them can be summed up with...slayer. You can also get rid of 97% of ALL fitting options (this means every single module, suit, and weapon combination available, which there are at least in the tens of thousands, if not hundreds) based on them being complete trash for the intended suit and role.
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SoTa Senpai
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.03 16:36:00 -
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what 'two years worth of content' has dust got?
Suits, a few weapons? I've seen more content update in a 20 year old MMO in a single patch.
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
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Posted - 2014.10.03 18:07:00 -
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I'll just throw one thing out there - MAG.
iirc released in 2008 and was blamed for dated graphics by CoD marketing crew (ign, gamespot, etc) while setting the gold standard for team based FPS that won't be surpassed for the next 10 years.
Now flash forward to 2014. Destiny is a flashy toy catering to teenagers on new consoles. DUST - poorly executed attempt at persistence team based shooter.
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:58:00 -
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Quote:You might wanna get rid of the wise from your name seeing as you don't understand the difference between endless and it just taking a long time to get there. And at most there's like 10 main roles, then it's mostly just divided by your racial preference, and half of them can be summed up with...slayer. You can also get rid of 97% of ALL fitting options (this means every single module, suit, and weapon combination available, which there are at least in the tens of thousands, if not hundreds) based on them being complete trash for the intended suit and role.
Oh yeah because "just divided by racial preference" is a completely unnoticeable difference right? Like there's NO difference between a Gal and Amarr Assault, or a Cal and Min Scout or Sentinel.
And that's not true at all. Even Sentinels have fitting options. For example I've been considering skilling into shield recharge for my Amarr. The other classes have WAY more freedom to run things like biotics and equipment.
The comment you made about weapon combination is so ******* ******** I'm not even going to address it.
If the Dust SP grind leaves you feeling unsatisfied, that sounds like a personal problem. QQ more.
Ludvig Enraga wrote:I'll just throw one thing out there - MAG.
iirc released in 2008 and was blamed for dated graphics by CoD marketing crew (ign, gamespot, etc) while setting the gold standard for team based FPS that won't be surpassed for the next 10 years.
Now flash forward to 2014. Destiny is a flashy toy catering to teenagers on new consoles. DUST - poorly executed attempt at persistence team based shooter.
I don't give a **** about MAG because from what I hear I can't even try to play it anymore. Beat a dead horse some more.
Teenagers? Really? No. The VAST majority of people on that game are men in their 20s.
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
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Posted - 2014.10.03 21:45:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait.......
I like grind in both 
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.10.03 22:32:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:X7 lion wrote:Apparently destiny is really grindy & repetitive unlike dust... oh wait....... I like grind in both
That's what an RPG is. Grinding.
destiny sux
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.10.03 22:38:00 -
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No matter what people say, this all comes back to one thing.
Destiny was meant to be the death of DUST, even CCP's announcement of Legion, didn't mamage it.
Destiny was to be the last nail in the coffin, the coupe De gra, the Rose in the grave.
And yet . . . . .
We are all here on the forums of a 'dead game' vehemently discussing balance and tactics and flaws.
We are all still here, playing regularly on a 'dead game'. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
People are actually bought boosters for the MCC
People are activelly attempting the destructive data mining event.
Sounds like Destiny is in more dire straights than us.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.03 22:44:00 -
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How do you even justify calling Dust as good as Star Wars Battlefront? That game was a ton more fun then Dust. Anyways Star Wars Battlefront has more things in common with COD and Battlefield then Dust, and I think it's better for it.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
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Posted - 2014.10.03 22:49:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:No matter what people say, this all comes back to one thing. Destiny was meant to be the death of DUST, even CCP's announcement of Legion, didn't mamage it. Destiny was to be the last nail in the coffin, the coupe De gra, the Rose in the grave. And yet . . . . . We are all here on the forums of a 'dead game' vehemently discussing balance and tactics and flaws. We are all still here, playing regularly on a 'dead game'. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustPeople are actually bought boosters for the MCC People are activelly attempting the destructive data mining event. Sounds like Destiny is in more dire straights than us.
Actually people (and i was one of them) thought Destiny will be little different, than what we have now.
Its actually good, because now i can play both and dont leave anything, because they are completely differentent 
Leveletion is different, grind is different, lore, core and gameplay is different aswell.
I actually stayed in Dust just because there was great progress made by team Rattati (in what i didnt belive before, like honestly after whole that issues before) and thanks to him im still here and hell, for first time even buying hradmoney stuff like support.
Both titles are great in my side of view end of story
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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Mike De Luca
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Posted - 2014.10.04 04:07:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Quote:You might wanna get rid of the wise from your name seeing as you don't understand the difference between endless and it just taking a long time to get there. And at most there's like 10 main roles, then it's mostly just divided by your racial preference, and half of them can be summed up with...slayer. You can also get rid of 97% of ALL fitting options (this means every single module, suit, and weapon combination available, which there are at least in the tens of thousands, if not hundreds) based on them being complete trash for the intended suit and role. Oh yeah because "just divided by racial preference" is a completely unnoticeable difference right? Like there's NO difference between a Gal and Amarr Assault, or a Cal and Min Scout or Sentinel. And that's not true at all. Even Sentinels have fitting options. For example I've been considering skilling into shield recharge for my Amarr. The other classes have WAY more freedom to run things like biotics and equipment. The comment you made about weapon combination is so ******* ******** I'm not even going to address it. If the Dust SP grind leaves you feeling unsatisfied, that sounds like a personal problem. QQ more.
I'm not just qqing, I'm just saying you're an idiot for praising the opportunity to make ******** fits over using what'll actually work....which is primarily what people are going to go with, unless they're trying to get rid of crap or just fking off. There's a reason we see the same almost identical fits over n over you know, minus 1 or 2 modules and weapon preference. And my comment on the weapons was pretty much directed at completely stupid things like throwing a shotgun on your amarr sentinel....or, just a swarm launcher, range amps, a flaylock, and codebreakers.....let me know how that second one works for you.
Point...I'm not complaining about the game, my only real issues with it are the lag n terrain issues, other than that I enjoy it. I was just saying you're an idiot for considering something that's actually finite endless, and a great many fits just won't work....at all.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:51:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:No matter what people say, this all comes back to one thing. Destiny was meant to be the death of DUST, even CCP's announcement of Legion, didn't mamage it. Destiny was to be the last nail in the coffin, the coupe De gra, the Rose in the grave. And yet . . . . . We are all here on the forums of a 'dead game' vehemently discussing balance and tactics and flaws. We are all still here, playing regularly on a 'dead game'. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustPeople are actually bought boosters for the MCC People are activelly attempting the destructive data mining event. Sounds like Destiny is in more dire straights than us.
I am not a big destiny fan, however, you are clueless. Look at the amount of people playing the games. Dust is a ghost town and has been for some time. When a game only averages 5k online at a time, that is pathetic. Destiny is not having such low player counts. Fan Fest killed Dust long before Destiny even arrived. PS, Destiny is currently the most played online game at the moment. While I really do not like Destiny, I am a realist. The game is being played by gobs of people. Quit trying to fool yourself that your favorite game is the only game going and the whole world will soon be playing it. |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.10.04 10:11:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:No matter what people say, this all comes back to one thing. Destiny was meant to be the death of DUST, even CCP's announcement of Legion, didn't mamage it. Destiny was to be the last nail in the coffin, the coupe De gra, the Rose in the grave. And yet . . . . . We are all here on the forums of a 'dead game' vehemently discussing balance and tactics and flaws. We are all still here, playing regularly on a 'dead game'. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustPeople are actually bought boosters for the MCC People are activelly attempting the destructive data mining event. Sounds like Destiny is in more dire straights than us. I am not a big destiny fan, however, you are clueless. Look at the amount of people playing the games. Dust is a ghost town and has been for some time. When a game only averages 5k online at a time, that is pathetic. Destiny is not having such low player counts. Fan Fest killed Dust long before Destiny even arrived. PS, Destiny is currently the most played online game at the moment. While I really do not like Destiny, I am a realist. The game is being played by gobs of people. Quit trying to fool yourself that your favorite game is the only game going and the whole world will soon be playing it.
I have no illusion that DUST has a low player count. That's not the point.
The point is that, that count is almost unchanged, despite everything.
In a couple of months something new will come out and everyone will play that, Destiny will degrade to a small loyal fanbase and slowly fade away, but you and me will still be here discussing wether or not this next big thing has successfully killed DUST.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2014.10.04 15:30:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:No matter what people say, this all comes back to one thing. Destiny was meant to be the death of DUST, even CCP's announcement of Legion, didn't mamage it. Destiny was to be the last nail in the coffin, the coupe De gra, the Rose in the grave. And yet . . . . . We are all here on the forums of a 'dead game' vehemently discussing balance and tactics and flaws. We are all still here, playing regularly on a 'dead game'. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustPeople are actually bought boosters for the MCC People are activelly attempting the destructive data mining event. Sounds like Destiny is in more dire straights than us. I am not a big destiny fan, however, you are clueless. Look at the amount of people playing the games. Dust is a ghost town and has been for some time. When a game only averages 5k online at a time, that is pathetic. Destiny is not having such low player counts. Fan Fest killed Dust long before Destiny even arrived. PS, Destiny is currently the most played online game at the moment. While I really do not like Destiny, I am a realist. The game is being played by gobs of people. Quit trying to fool yourself that your favorite game is the only game going and the whole world will soon be playing it. I have no illusion that DUST has a low player count. That's not the point. The point is that, that count is almost unchanged, despite everything. In a couple of months something new will come out and everyone will play that, Destiny will degrade to a small loyal fanbase and slowly fade away, but you and me will still be here discussing wether or not this next big thing has successfully killed DUST.
Dust is already dead. Fan Fest took care of that before Destiny was even thought of. Destiny's numbers will not fall even remotely close to Dust active numbers. Oh sure they may drop, that is to be expected. However, the catastrophic drop you seem to imply will not happen. There are just way too many idiots playing that game right now. I liken it to Cod and BF, incredibly high numbers playing them at the start, then the numbers go down. Yet even with reduced numbers, Cod and BF still have more folks playing them than most other games. Destiny seems to be in that category with the casuals gravitating towards it due to pve.
Personally, I am sick of Destiny. It is too repetitive and the pvp just feels crappy. I have already gone back to BF4. If dust were on PS4, I would actually come back to it also. I just can not bring myself to play another ps3 game after playing on the four. My three is now my netflix and cruncyroll machine.
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