Automatically placing players in squads doesn't solve any problems. It tries to obscure the problem.

The problem is organized, coordinated squads being matched against solo players. Auto-shoving them into a squad doesn't make six solo players organized.

And Thor, there's a ton of people who prefer to play solo. I'm not sure why you're crusading so hard to tell people that they must play the game the way you want them to. It's supposed to be a sandbox (in theory), where people can play how they want.

maluable, I've been a proponent of the concept of having like Ambush be solo-only, for instance.

I've also suggested above in this thread that an auto-squad queuing mechanic could be separate from the existing Instant Battle manual queuing mechanic, which would ensure those who chose to be auto-squadded were willingly selecting the feature. Which would, in turn, mean your auto-squad would be more effective and more likely to want to behave like a squad.

Wana know what will help this problem, keep new players in academy. Anyone with less that 10mil sp should be in diffrent server. How does nobody else see new players are 90% of the problem. I think it's sad that this problem wasn't forseen. New players drag the ones that know how to play down.

Wana know what will help this problem, keep new players in academy. Anyone with less that 10mil sp should be in diffrent server. How does nobody else see new players are 90% of the problem. I think it's sad that this problem wasn't forseen. New players drag the ones that know how to play down.

Absolutely disagree.

Adding forced squads wont do anything to encourage teamplay, did you not play MAG? It had the same issues.

We need to encourage the whole team to play together not just squads... I would suggest replacing squad orders with team orders for everyone to see and take part in, even if they are soloing. This might just get a few people to visit the same points on the map even if they aren't in a squad together.

Of course to stop 16 solo squads placing orders all over the map, it might need a limit on how many squads there are per team.

Or you could just have solo players automatically thrown into squads. From one day to the next I doubt you'd see any difference in matches.

Your proposal would have 16 players zerging from point to point and that would be really stupid.

Automatically placing players in squads doesn't solve any problems. It tries to obscure the problem.

The problem is organized, coordinated squads being matched against solo players. Auto-shoving them into a squad doesn't make six solo players organized.

And Thor, there's a ton of people who prefer to play solo. I'm not sure why you're crusading so hard to tell people that they must play the game the way you want them to. It's supposed to be a sandbox (in theory), where people can play how they want.

So this is where I stand on this issue:

1. I support the default placement of blues into squads.

2. I support an option under gameplay settings that allows players to check a box that opts them out of this default setting.

I think that's a fair compromise. The rookies would benefit from default squad placement and I imagine that a high number of them would not choose to opt out of this setting. Conversely, the types of players who hate being forced to squad up with strangers could make the conscious decision to permanently opt out within a few very simple button clicks.

The bottom line is that inexperienced, unsophisticated players would be better served under this change. We can argue about the extent of said benefit, but it would clearly be an improvement over what we have now.

At this point I'm willing to conceed on point 2 (something I have previously stated opposition too) if it allows any chance of this idea moving forward.

I don't think the system works as well as it should be due to the massive amounts of solo players. I can't see if the other team is without squads, but it happens a LOT where you deploy in and there isn't a single person in a squad on your team (yes I solo from time to time).

A few things I think could improve the situation:

1) Automatically placing players in squads as they reach the warbarge
2) Automatically placing the defend order on the squad leader (he/she can change it to someone else if they'd like)

By the off chance there may be some of these players that realize the potential and importance of playing as a squad. Besides the in depth skill system Dust 514's greatest attribute is the team play features. It's been ignored for so long I think the game play has deteriorated significantly.

There are many, many more game play styles available than we had in beta, but I squads were abundant and the matches felt like there was some strategy and skill involved.

It is NOT fun to continually feel as though you are 6 v 16 in matches.

I think we should go other way around this and deploy matches without squads and mechanic to create one while in being in match.

I'm solo player and I'm like it this - why match making mechanic is dropping me in to match against 6 guys from same corp while there is no squads in my team is beyond my understanding of balance match.

Worst thing that dis-balance things when you have to fight against squads is that they share scanning range - 1 guy in squad is doing job of everyone.