You do realize that it simply is not possible, with the current engine and tagging system, to say "heavies have a resist to grenades and REs, but not MDs".

There's also the fact that you still haven't stated why it takes just as long to kill just the logi with the MD, when logis are the definition of "paper armor" in the current patch state.

You have also not addressed the fact that MDs are death incarnate to armor medframes, very deadly to shield medframes, and a great big "screw you" to scout scrubs abusing inertialess strafe mechanics.

You also completely ignored the idea that Breakin's proposal to remove Sentinels from CQC by changing the HMG's role would actually be a stealth buff to the MD- there would be more medframes in the MD's preferred engagement areas, leading to greater effectiveness, without ever touching MDs or Sentinel suit bonuses.

If you can see the heavy, the heavy can see you, and you will melt before your 2nd round even lands.

If you're out of the HMG's range, now they can sidestep the MD round.

Yes, I can kill terrible heavies who are stupid and don't know they should shoot at red dots. But anything can kill those players.

Also, I drew out a scenario of bringing the wrong weapon against a sentinel with a combat rifle, and it worked out better than the MD vs the wrong sentinel.

3.2 second TTK vs 10.5.

Sorry Masshole, the resist is broken.

Well, like all "specialty weapons", the massdriver has its plusses and severe shortcomings. The MD is no 1v1 infantry weapon.

You have to use it as such.

1. Stay behind your own heavies. Lob the rounds over your teammates and soften the heavies with a mixture of direct and splash hits. Your grunts will do the rest.

2. If you get caught 1v1 well you die if the heavy has you in range. If not or cover is near, use it. I have been chased by heavies and every time they come around the corner they get a round in the face, run again, repeat.

3. If you want even terms with a massdriver towards a heavy you have to get him in a place where he can't shoot you (range, cover) and pop in and out of cover to finish him.

This might not always work, but thats the problem with a weapon that can damage multiple targets at the same time. It needs shortcomings in other areas.

I just think the MD is not for you. So go to the Market and buy something that suits you. Problem solved.

Cheers

Role Bonus(ALL SENTINELS): +5% damage resistance to splash damage per level.

Caldari Sentinel Bonus:
GÇó3% shield resistance to hybrid - blaster weapons per level.
GÇó2% shield resistance to laser weapons per level.
Gallente Sentinel Bonus:
GÇó3% armor resistance to hybrid - railgun weapons per level.
GÇó2% armor resistance to projectile weapons per level.
Minmatar Sentinel Bonus:
GÇó3% shield resistance to laser weapons per level.
GÇó2% armor resistance to hybrid - blaster weapons per level.
Amarr Sentinel Bonus:
GÇó3% armor resistance to projectile weapons per level.
GÇó2% shield resistance to hybrid - railgun weapons per level.

I will once again plug Breakin Stuff's proposal about Sentinel battle role, because that would honestly fix every issue that MD users have with sentinels, because the sentinel would then be dominant in terrain conditions that MDs are subpar in anyways.

You think it's wrong that it takes you more than ten seconds to kill a heavy?

Three things left: one, "uncourteous" is not a word. The appropriate term is "discourteous".

Finally, your tears are still like a fine ambrosia of delicious enjoyment.

As much fun as I'm having in my Minmando, I'd love to stop lugging around 2 damage mods and a Plasma Cannon to get over the Sentinel hump.

I say buff it to 40% resistance cuz **** remotes

No point arguing.

OP will not accept any evidence or opinion as valid unless it is in lockstep with his own.

Flux, then Drive.

Or use the Plasma Cannon.

After I refute your points, you keep advertising your CQC/Sentinel proposal, which is totally compatible with my proposal, and does not negate the need for my proposal.

Further, you continue to ignore the fact that the MD can, in fact, kill a heavy without ever being shot at by using the splash damage to kill the heavy around a corner.

No.

Because your mass driver will get nerfed again the instant you get what you want.

They buffed it back up to useful because they added the resists.

Mass drivers were nerfed because there was no dropsuit that could stand against them.

TTK is too low on other suits.

It's going to get nerfed if splash resistance goes away.

The effective TTK for a mass driver against a Sentinel/Logi unit is the same, if not a bit longer due to reps, than the TTK against the Sentinel by himself. So we're still talking above 10 second TTK.

As I and other people have pointed out, that's less effective than many Militia rifles, which is atrocious being that I calculated the Mass Driver TTK with a stacked prototype build.

A stacked rifle build can frag a sentinel and switch to a sidearm while the logi still has his rep tool out.

None of that bolsters the argument for a %25 splash damage nerf to both Shield **AND** Armor, where the other sentinel resists only go up to %15 for Shield **OR** Armor.

So, I was reading back through this thread (because it got a new post of stupid), and I saw this delicious little statement.

Which comes down to saying "the TTK against a logi is the same as the TTK against a heavy". Which then leads us to several causes and the possibilities that they entail:

so why are you shooting at a heavy with a mass driver?