Dear players,

the final numbers have gone into QA testing and eventual deployment. As per usual, a Devblog will be posted after the hotfix has been successfully deployed.

You can find them here: Hotfix Charlie - Final Numbers
For those that have been following the Hotfix Charlie discussions and thread, there should be no surprises.

Thanks everyone for your feedback and your enthusiasm

Feel free to discuss Hotfix Charlie here, in a constructive and polite manner

Hey, person who runs protofits, could you please update it?

feedback.

-proposed WP cost for orbital.. ty it at 3000-4000 first.

-50% nova knife dmg vs vehicles? is that +/- ? please clarify

-your missing militia and std burst hmg values

-5% fitting for grenades on assault?! thats USELESS! try light weapon fitting or max ammo.

-sidearm damage amps should be 5/7/9

-missile turret range try at 750-1000

- other turret ranges should be similar to those of HAV turrets

-installation repair rate 40hp/s across the board

everything else looks ship shape.. when you gonna apply the hotfix?

Doing some of it now, though I won't be able to update ALL item variants till we get a new SDE.

Concerning the balacs, who has those? I've never seen one.

I have 50 of them buddy.

I have 50 of them buddy.

Of all the weapons to tweak, you chose the assault scrambler?? Arguably the most balanced rifle in the game and you nerf it?


Ok.........seems to me people need to get their priorities straight...(yes, I'm pointing to you combat rifle...) >.>

Kinda disappointed with cal assault hp buff, only 275 shields from 210, could have just left armor alone and buffed to 310 shields...
BUT, it's good enough.

With one and two low slots at basic and advanced , you will be happy and thankful about the armor buff and the shield changes , more shields add them .

It was op vs shield suits, fully automatic, plus the overheat function had no purpose because of how slow it was.

Of all the weapons to tweak, you chose the assault scrambler?? Arguably the most balanced rifle in the game and you nerf it?


Ok.........seems to me people need to get their priorities straight...(yes, I'm pointing to you combat rifle...) >.>

Have you tried shooting an armor heavy? It's not op......it does 80% to armor.....over half the people I fight wear armor based suits. And I have overheated in my commando so don't know where you got your info from

What's the point in having a heat mechanic on a weapon that takes 2 full magazines of firing at commando 5 to overheat? (aka it doesn't overheat ever).

Does it need to overheat? It gets outclassed by many rifles.

Just because it isn't super effective vs armor doesn't mean it's op.
And I used it, similar dps to armor only op vs shields with tight hipfire.


Have you ever used an ar or rr vs a decent heavy?

Not really.
It has near dps of an ar vs armor, and better hipfire.

Better hip fire huh? Dispersion says otherwise....I've used an AR and AR has better hipfire

I am pretty pessimistic about this update. Alpha and Bravo were marked by bringing very conservative changes to things that were obviously imbalanced. Charlie is making very aggressive changes to things that are not clearly imbalanced but in need of tweaking. Page by page.

Assaults Dropsuit changes-needed and seems to be in line with what is needed.

Sentinel Dropsuit-WTF? dropping CPU and PG by 40 or 50% is drastic. Yes, they needed to be nerfed in fitting ability but only a 15% change or so was called for.

Scout suits- IDK, the subtleties of ewar I will leave to others, what is clear is that the suit most in need of change, the Min suit, with the easiest change to make, adding PG, was left out in the cold, establishing it clearly as the worst scout suit in the game.

Various-Seems OK to me.

Vehicles-Increasing shields by 500? Why? Bad idea that will haunt us all. Increased recall time is a small improvement. Entry/exit time is more important but we have gone over that as not being fixable.

Slot layout- IDK

Dropsuit eHP-Looks fine to me

Weapons-Like the changes to 4 missiles and leveling of the tiers but the nerf to proto was completely unnecessary, it makes proto pretty much pointless. HMG changes, well, we'll see. I like the approach.

Turrets-Seems Ok.

Modules-I think the greater difference in tier for damage mods was needed. Why not Heavy Damage Mods though?

Turrets-Yes, and something I have long advocated. HP on installations seems excessive to me though, but after clamoring for this change since I started the game I don't feel I can criticize it.

My personal opinion on this is that you seem to have a grudge against me personally this update. I am pretty close to a dedicated AV guy. My forge suit will be much harder to fit now and I don't know if I can make it both effective and survivable. My nemesis, the Python, will be made 500 shield points harder to kill, while I find them near impossible to kill already. My swarm suit will be getting a significant nerf as well. While I have spent a lot of time and SP investing on going AV, anyone willing to go to ADV swarms will now essentially be as effective as I am. While I approve of the turrets, they will now also be competing with me for AV points, so there will be much less incentive for me to run AV and be killable by everyone else on the field. In short, this update seems poised to hurt the only playstyle I truly enjoy.

Sentinel Dropsuit-WTF? dropping CPU and PG by 40 or 50% is drastic. Yes, they needed to be nerfed in fitting ability but only a 15% change or so was called for.