the ADS is getting a price drop in the next hotfix. Is the sky going to be filled with OP players? Is the Afterburner OP? When AV meets ADS where lies the balance?

Let me get the conversation started.



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Remove the ridiculous bonuses to RoF on the ADS' and the problem will be greatly reduced.

Some day, I'm going to figure out how you do some of those maneuvers. It's half Kung Fu / Half Drunken Master

I've got the Drunken Master part down fine.

As always Judge, good video.

the ADS is getting a price drop in the next hotfix. Is the sky going to be filled with OP players? Is the Afterburner OP? When AV meets ADS where lies the balance?

Let me get the conversation started.



Also... Vote Judge

I'm fairly intrigued that enemy chevrons aren't showing up at some of the ranges you were at from them; particularly when you flew over the hanger with the swarmer and forger on it. Is that how it is for a lot of players? Because I usually got the chevron at those ranges (and I usually play solo so no shared scans) but it has been a little bit since a flew, just really got back into playing the game.

Get high up nd practice?

Remove the ridiculous bonuses to RoF on the ADS' and the problem will be greatly reduced.

the ADS is getting a price drop in the next hotfix. Is the sky going to be filled with OP players? Is the Afterburner OP? When AV meets ADS where lies the balance?

Let me get the conversation started.



Also... Vote Judge

Thankfully this is a confirmed bug, but since it requires a client side patch to fix, it won't get fixed for some time.

Unfortunately many pilots have grown so accustomed to this crutch that they defend it with everything they have. It's honestly just sad to see.

if dropships prices drop - then the AB needs to be nerfed so that they can't outrun swarms as soon as they switch it on

Stacking pilot skills is the only thing confirmed as a bug. The innate bonuses to the pilots RoF is working as intended. Let me tell you this too, any dropship fitting door weapons WILL have reduced defence. It WILL go down like a sack of potatoes if you put in the effort to kill it.

If a dropship cannot outrun a swarm fired at it, then it serves no purpose. If fired; swarms hit. we no longer need swarm tracking or speed. Scouts can outrun heavies. Any infantry player can run round a corner. In the sky there are no corners. Are we not allowed to evade? If not then how do we survive? It's tank or run. Deny us the AB and as we cannot tank, as I show, and we cannot run, then Dropships become non viable.

I support the idea of lowering ADS costs and I would like collision damage to be changed as well. Judge made an excellent video with some good points about swarm speed and the AB. It was a selective video though about one aspect and in the end we need to ask, do more Pythons die to AV'ers or more AV'ers to Pythons. We can remove the factor of player skill by asking Judge, or anyone playing both roles, this question. I am confident that the pilots are winning these engagements the majority of the time. I hear pilots complain about "almost being killed" by AV all the time. AV never complains about "almost" being killed by pilots.

The issue in my opinion is the difference in TTK between the two. Yes, the AV'er often has the first mover advantage but with a TTK approaching 15 seconds for the Python this means that even after being hit the pilot has 7-8 seconds to engage the AV'er and still leave a window for escape. With a 1-2 second TTK for the AV'er, this means the outcome is always in the pilot's hands, he either wins or escapes every time unless he chooses to overstay. So how do we make it so that the TTK is a little more even without tipping the scales entirely the other direction? How do we factor in the ridiculous regen the Python exhibits which negates all previous actions done by an AV'er in a matter of seconds?

Thankfully this is a confirmed bug, but since it requires a client side patch to fix, it won't get fixed for some time.

Unfortunately many pilots have grown so accustomed to this crutch that they defend it with everything they have. It's honestly just sad to see.

Also... Vote Judge

Remove the ridiculous bonuses to RoF on the ADS' and the problem will be greatly reduced.

I think the bug is just fine, i dont see it getting abused.Without the rof why even make gunner dropships, you have a compromised fit with less hp, why not run 2 dropships with full hp.