The Tac AR used to dominate, even in CQC. Hip dispersion was increased so it went back to short tange sniping, but it has a place in firefights, just like the Scrambler, so let's put ideas on the table.

On the range advantage note, I'm looking at the effective ranges now. The AR sits at 65/71.5/78m and the ScR sits at 80/88/96m according to Protofits. So ScRs have roughly 23% more effective range compared to assaults. The only reference to optimal ranges I could find tells a similar story.

Yep, EHP stacking with Plates is creating an imbalance in the whole ecosystem

Data says that Scramblers are either considerably worse or inhabit a radically different role on the battlefield.

Plasma rifles also need love, but not much by the numbers.

If UP against the others, please post suggestions.

My personal experience is that the Assault CR is considerably better than the Duvolle at most ranges. Something I don't like having specced fully into all Plasma rifle proficiencies

Discuss

The Tac AR used to dominate, even in CQC. Hip dispersion was increased so it went back to short tange sniping, but it has a place in firefights, just like the Scrambler, so let's put ideas on the table.

The Tac AR used to dominate, even in CQC. Hip dispersion was increased so it went back to short tange sniping, but it has a place in firefights, just like the Scrambler, so let's put ideas on the table.

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There is no point to skill up for the prototype of any rifle when the damage difference is only a point and a half more than the enhanced version!!

The problem with the TAC AR the RoF was nerfed a little to much and into an odd tempo. 400 rpm is below what most people can pull with their figure and the tempo doesn't sit naturally in your mind. Raise it to 480 and it will be used again. Decrease damage accordingly to keep the DPS the same.

Whether you realize it or not, you mind is time conditioned on two fronts, 4/4 time signature due to most 20th and 21st century music, and seconds. 400 rpm is the rhythmic equivalent of triplets at 120 bpm ( 2 beats per second so the most natural of tempos your mind operates in, tic toc, tic toc) . Unless you are someone who only listens to polka, that is not going to naturally feel right to you. 480 rpm is the equivalent of 16th notes at 120, which is a tempo your mind will sync right into.

What this causes is misfires buy the rifle and dismisses it's potential because you are naturally wanting to, and are more than capable of, 'rushing' the tempo.

The Plasma rifle needs more damage, not ROF. Hybrids are higher damage but slower ROF weapons. The quicksand effect needs to be done away with before touching the Combat Rifle's ROF or damage. I still contend that without that effect the CR would not be nearly as effective. However, the burst interval does need tweaking.

You know what's funny about this thread is that the Laser Rifle is still no good when compared to the next weakest gun of the game.
Its so broken still you guys are not even bringing it up when comparing weapons.

Rifles shouldn't really outperform each other, but behave differently and have different profiles. It seems like ccp is balancing guns on opposing races only instead of just adding a bit of their flavor to the assault rifle class. Amarrs are heavily tanked suits and can have a ton of shields and armor so they made the combat rifle able to take out shields and armor in the same ratio the average amarr would tank on his suit. The gallente assault rifle was made to kill caldari suits which we all know are shield tanked and have a smaller ehp. This already creates and imbalance because any gun designed to kill a suit with high shield and armor tanking potential in this game would be the best gun to use.

Another factor is the two playstyles promoted by each race. Caldari and Gallente weapons are meant for long and close range tracking while the Amarr and Minmatar are use for long and short range burst damage. I think this alone is enough of a difference for the weapons and damage should be much closer than it is for each weapon. The damage output of the combat rifle and the gallente rifle should be much closer. We also should remember that shields have a much faster regeneration so a high damage to shields isn't as devastating as high damage to armor after the dust settles.

As for the different variants of the Assault rifles I always thought they should be removed until they have an equivalent for the other rifles. For an alternate gallente weapon I would like a breach assault rifle with a scope, longer range, and an rpm of 500 to mimic the rail rifle. The proto breach ar with the same damage and an increased 500 rpm actually has the same damage of the devolle doing 412.5 damage a second which is more than the rr, but with less range.

It's actually an excellent weapon, I have no clue what's your problem with it.

The Laser is stronger than it ever has been, except maybe that bug with the viziam back in chromosome. But overall it's in really good shape atm.

This explains why I have never had trouble with the Tac AR

Did high school marching band for 5 years. Our Book was mostly triplets. Quarter note triplets, sixlets, and triplet excerises at 180.

God I miss drumline.

The Laser is stronger than it ever has been, except maybe that bug with the viziam back in chromosome. But overall it's in really good shape atm.

The lasers biggest weakness right now is that people are favouring armour over shields at the moment. I tend to bring it out to fight people who are normally just out of range of other rifles and it works great.

On a different note, do the consumption figures include BPOs? I realized after my earlier posts that the 2 least consumed rifles are also the rifles that have BPO variants.

The lasers biggest weakness right now is that people are favouring armour over shields at the moment. I tend to bring it out to fight people who are normally just out of range of other rifles and it works great.

On a different note, do the consumption figures include BPOs? I realized after my earlier posts that the 2 least consumed rifles are also the rifles that have BPO variants.