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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.05.16 21:36:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:
Data says that Scramblers are either considerably worse or inhabit a radically different role on the battlefield.
Plasma rifles also need love, but not much by the numbers.
If UP against the others, please post suggestions.
My personal experience is that the Assault CR is considerably better than the Duvolle at most ranges. Something I don't like having specced fully into all Plasma rifle proficiencies
Discuss
I feel like the reason for the SCR is not it being underpowered, rather it being difficult (but rewarding) to use.
However, with the existence of the CR, that difficulty isn't rewarded, since the damage the CR can do is pretty much equal, but without the harsh overheat mechanics.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.05.16 21:46:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:SCR is just a close range sniper rifle you cant use like it an AR because the overheat gets you killed. Thus you cant frontline the SCR. The assult makes up for this but as everyone is amour tanking your better off using the CC or RR.
Hope that makes sense, i would rather the SCR went full auto but lost its power until you reloaded. So you unload it but if u do it to much your using a pea shooter.
With its current overheat method its a lighbitly on the front line The Tac AR used to dominate, even in CQC. Hip dispersion was increased so it went back to short tange sniping, but it has a place in firefights, just like the Scrambler, so let's put ideas on the table.
The problems:
It's weaker than the SCR despite having a LOT less range (it was even nerfed in 1.7)
It has worse hip fire than SCR
It has a longer reload time
It has more recoil
It has a much lower cap on fire rate
And you might say "but it doesn't have overheat!", however, the SCR takes 18 shots to overheat.
You know the clip size of the TAC AR?
18.
So... You gain nothing.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.05.16 21:53:00 -
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Note:
SCR charge + spam to finish off the target is still REALLY damn effective on the Amarr Assault.
You kill things faster than anything else, other than insta kill weaponry of course.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.05.17 08:49:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:The Plasma rifle needs more damage, not ROF. Hybrids are higher damage but slower ROF weapons. The quicksand effect needs to be done away with before touching the Combat Rifle's ROF or damage. I still contend that without that effect the CR would not be nearly as effective. However, the burst interval does need tweaking.
No actually, hybrid blasters are extremely close to autocannons in terms of fire rate.
The most difference there is when it comes to the light variants is 1 second.
But the blasters do double the damage, yes double, at the cost of half the range. (Though higher optimal)
So how it would be in DUST is:
1100 RPM
60 damage per shot
43 effective range
38 optimal range
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.05.17 11:58:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:You know what's funny about this thread is that the Laser Rifle is still no good when compared to the next weakest gun of the game.
Its so broken still you guys are not even bringing it up when comparing weapons.
It's actually an excellent weapon, I have no clue what's your problem with it.
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Posted - 2014.05.17 15:53:00 -
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Starfire Revo wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:You know what's funny about this thread is that the Laser Rifle is still no good when compared to the next weakest gun of the game.
Its so broken still you guys are not even bringing it up when comparing weapons. It's actually an excellent weapon, I have no clue what's your problem with it. The Laser is stronger than it ever has been, except maybe that bug with the viziam back in chromosome. But overall it's in really good shape atm. The lasers biggest weakness right now is that people are favouring armour over shields at the moment. I tend to bring it out to fight people who are normally just out of range of other rifles and it works great. On a different note, do the consumption figures include BPOs? I realized after my earlier posts that the 2 least consumed rifles are also the rifles that have BPO variants.
The laser still noms on armor with a bit of heating.
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